Dear Friends,


The Pope has already formally denounced the proposed war, calling it
a defeat for humanity, and also has sent his top spokesperson.
However, to stop the war, he now must take a historically
unprecedented action of his own and travel to Baghdad. The Pope's
physical presence in Iraq will act as the ultimate human shield,
WOULD STOP THE WAR
(Which is starting NEXT WEEK)

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Pope Declares Ash Wednesday a Day of Prayer and Fasting for Peace

March 5 to Be Set Aside Especially for the Middle East

VATICAN CITY, FEB. 23, 2003 (Zenit.org).- John Paul II called for a day of prayer and fasting for peace, especially in the Middle East, to be observed on Ash Wednesday, March 5.

"For months the international community has been living in great apprehension because of the danger of a war that might disturb the whole of the Middle East region and exacerbate the tensions that, unfortunately, are already present at the beginning of the millennium," the Pope said today, explaining the reasons for his decision.

The Holy Father made this announcement before praying the midday Angelus with the crowds gathered in St. Peter's Square.

"It is a duty of believers, regardless of the religion to which they belong, to proclaim that we will never be able to be happy if we are against one another; the future of humanity will never be able to be assured by terrorism and the logic of war," the Pope continued.

"We Christians, in particular, are called to be like guardians of peace in the places where we live and work," he explained. "We are asked, that is, to be alert, so that consciences will not yield to the temptation to egoism, falsehood and violence."

Because of this, the Pontiff invited "all Catholics to dedicate with special intensity next March 5, Ash Wednesday, to prayer and fasting for the cause of peace, especially in the Middle East."

"Above all, let us implore God for the conversion of hearts and a generous view in just decisions to resolve with adequate and peaceful means the contests that hamper the pilgrimage of humanity in our time," he said.

"In every Marian shrine an ardent prayer for peace will be raised to heaven with the praying of the holy rosary," the Pope added. "I trust that also in parishes and families the rosary will be prayed for this great cause on which the good of all depends."

"This common invocation will be accompanied by fasting, expression of penance for the hatred and violence that contaminate human relations," John Paul II noted.

"Christians share the ancient practice of fasting with many brothers and sisters of other religions, who in this way want to be despoiled of all pride and dispose themselves to receive from God the greatest and most necessary gifts, among which, in particular, is that of peace," the Holy Father stressed.

The convocation to prayer and fasting is a continuation of the marathon of meetings and contacts undertaken by the Pope and his collaborators to avoid the outbreak of war against Iraq and to try to put an end to the violence in the Holy Land.

In recent days John Paul II has received, among others, British Prime Minister Tony Blair, U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan, Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister Tariq Aziz and German Foreign Affairs Minister Joschka Fischer, the current president of the U.N. Security Council.

The Holy Father also sent Cardinal Roger Etchegaray to Iraq, to meet personally with Saddam Hussein and with the local Catholic community.

If John Paul did go to Baghdad as a "human shield, THERE WOULD BE NO WAR.
I think he's the only person in the world with that much moral authority.
maybe Carter,
maybe Mandella
maybe Dhali lama

But certainly the Pope.

No bombs would drop as long as he was there.

If he's stupid enough to place himself there, who cares? How many divisions does he have, anyway?

And anyway, me and the rest of the gang are much too smart to allow the Ancient One to put his head on the block like that.

And you've got to be kidding asbout those other two jackasses Mandela and Carter. They would be bomb magnets. "Oh sorry, didn't see him there!"

Just pull the damn trigger, George.

...I say we poke Saddam with the soft cushions...

I'm probably wrong, I often am, but something about this whole Iraq war of George Bush seems, very, very historical. It seems big. And it doesn't seem to be going according to the whitehouse script.
The millions of marchers world-wide; who would have thought?
France, Germany, Russia AND China opposed and threatening vetos: who would have thought?
Turkey refrusing to allow US troops (so far); who would have thought?
Little countries like Chile and in-the-bag countries like Mexico resisting (for now) tremendous pressure from the United States.
Back to the millions upon millions of anti-war demonstrators around the world, who would have thought?
(certainly, not Bush & Co.!)
Which makes me believe that unlikely things which could change the course of history ARE possible.
That maybe the pope will go to Baghdad and stop this war.
and we'll be saying:
who would have thought?

Let the pope be a human shield and then bomb anyway... :-)

No hope in the pope ( Unholy father)

Let the pope be a human shield and then bomb anyway... :-)

No hope in the pope ( Unholy father)

Well, if the Pope does go it sounds like there will be plenty of room for him as the heroic earlier human shields are streaming out of the country as soon as they found 1) less press coverage 2) they weren't staying a the Marriott and 3) Saddam thought it would be nice to place them around legitamate military targets.

to the two above commenters:
you're such assholes,
you really are.
To disrespect the head of a major religion, just shows what goons you are.

And to question the courage of "human Shields" while you sit on your fat ass watching cnn, or typing pro war messages on the web, which YOU would never consider fighting yourself, just promoting...content to have others do the fighting and dying.....

well guys,

you're slime.

I'll be here all week!

So how come YOU aren't a human shield, if
you're such a principled person. What;s the matter, chump, don't want to be handcuffed to the roof of a radar facility?

Yep, them human shields are real courageous. Drove all the way to Baghdad, then turned around and left when they were asked to 'shield' sites they weren't comfortable with.

You see, there's the problem. The human shields would like to think they are independent operators - they think of themselves as brave, moral people who can, through strength of conviction, cause war to cease. Now leaving aside the rediculous narcissim and ego, the fact is that they are NOT independent operators. Once they pass into the country of Iraq, they must accept the directions and dictates of the Iraqi regime. They become a defacto asset to the Iraqi military. The Iraqis, naturally, would love to have thousands of Western human shields to place around military sites, infrastructure, etc. If they could just find enough deluded Leftists to strap across the front of every tank, they would.

You're supporting someone with a wanton disregard for human life - this is why the human shields left.

I think your alter ego Aunt Nancy would be quite upset by you lack of spelling skills, Fido...

narcissism. Damn tough word to spell.
ridiculous . Never get that one right.

Thanks for the correction.

I wasn't upset, your Aunt Nancy was...

...actually it made you seem remotely human...

If the Pope really cared about the future of humanity he would not be fulminating against contraception all the time.
I would be the first to jump for joy if he tottered into harm's way.

AN IDEAL HUMANITY

The present day men have attached themselves more to mere words,
forgetting it's root nature. ie.Light and Sound form ....This is
the root nature of mankind.

Only very few look at a word as a word, a word interms of
individual alphabets,a word interms of lines,a word interms of few
dots,etc and the rest as per the age old memory.

So,this memory has to be touched upon to produce a better tomorrow
from the school level otherwise humanity will be ever attached to
the words of the names of god and religion,which leads to
division.

The basic form of life is Light and sound and this has to be
taught to the future generation, eventhough the false and truth
co-exist-(the very nature of Life).

HUMOUR: Look at the words Light and Sound interms of individual
alphabets

Please do not engage in war but show compassion.

Sleep<=>Sleep

OMAL_WORD

Knowledge is borrowed.So do not boast yourselves.
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Lot of gentles are speaking on religious conversions and
>anticonversions,simply forgetting the fact that their thoughts
>are basically supported by Earth,Water,Air,Space and Fire(The
>solar system),but they do not question to which religion do these
>basic elements belong?.
>
> The causes of conversion are due to the false superiority
>of Religions,caste and their related ill treatment to the rest of
>the society.If one is honest enough to accept the fact that
>he/she breathes the same old eternal air of others and stands on
>the same Earth on which the rest of the mankind stand,there will
>be no conversions on the earth.
> Man is a dynamic whole having sleep as his/her beginning and
>end.Can any one say where from the sleep begin and end?.

>Some people say poor people are converted/exploited ....why don't
>the supporters of anticonversion find out the reason how they
>have been made poor?.The fact is that you have certified them
>inferior/untouchable Hindus without any shame against the facts
>for your selfish growth.
>
> One may feel that he/she is gaining out of this cunningness
>but they are bound to answere the eternal basic elements and that
>is the real meaning of human ONESS.
> Please do not boast yourselves for HINDU OR ANY RELIGION FOR
>WHICH NO RELIGION IS HIGHER THAN MAN WHOSE BOUNDARY IS THE
>ETERNAL BASIC ELEMENTS.
>
>MAN IS THE BEAUTY AND DO NOT SPOIL or kill HIM IN THE NAME OF
>RELIGION.
>
>
>OMAL_WORD@REDIFFMAIL.COM
>OM-----OM OF HINDU
>AL-----ALLAH OF MUSLIM
>WORD---WORD OF CHRIST
>
>
>
>M.PARAMASIVAM
10.11.2002

niraj [guest]
genral issues Posted 11-20-2002 05:56

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
RESPECTED SIR, NAMASTE.YOUR THOUGHTS GIVE ME A VISION.I WANT TO SHA RE SOME THUGHTS. 1.REVAMPING OF JUDICIAL SYSTEM.GOVT IS LARGEST LITIGHANT.IT SHOULD HONOUR COURT DECISION WITHOUT APPEAL.CRIMINAL CASES SHOULD BE DECIDED WITHIN 30 DAYS. 2.PEOPLE REPRESENTATION ACT REAPPEALED.CRIMINALS SHOULD NOT BE MP/MLA. 3INFRASTRUCTRE PROJECTS SHOULD COMPLETE IN TIME.YOUR OFFICE CAN MONITOR 10 LARGEST NATIONAL PROJECTS.ADVICE CABINET ON IT.INVITE PUBLIC VIEWS. 4.LAND REVENUE RECORDS SHOULD BE COMPUTERISED.REGISTRATION OF PROPERTY SHOULD BE DONE VIA INTERNET. 5.ALL CITIZENS SHOULD GIVEN UNIQUE NUMBER.BIO DATA OF EACH CITIZEN SHOULD BE LINKED,ACCESSIBLE VIA INTERNET 6.NO FREE ELECTRICITY.NO CHARITY FOR CHEAP POPULARITY BY POLITICAL PARTIES.CENTRE GOVT SHOULD DEDUCT COST FREE PRODUCTS FROM CENTRE AID 7.ONE CITY PER STATE PER YEAR SHOULD BE DEVELOPED.NOIDA EXAMPLE SHOULD BE FOLLOWED. I FEEL ABOVE POLICIES WILL MAKE INDIA STRONG &DEVELOPED YOURS SINCERELY NIRAJ

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AN IDEAL HUMANITY

The present day men have attached themselves more to mere words,
forgetting it's root nature. ie.Light and Sound form ....This is
the root nature of mankind.

Only very few look at a word as a word, a word interms of
individual alphabets,a word interms of lines,a word interms of few
dots,etc and the rest as per the age old memory.

So,this memory has to be touched upon to produce a better tomorrow
from the school level otherwise humanity will be ever attached to
the words of the names of god and religion,which leads to
division.

The basic form of life is Light and sound and this has to be
taught to the future generation, eventhough the false and truth
co-exist-(the very nature of Life).

HUMOUR: Look at the words Light and Sound interms of individual
alphabets

Please do not engage in war but show compassion.

Sleep<=>Sleep

OMAL_WORD

Knowledge is borrowed.So do not boast yourselves.
--------------------------------------------
Share General Issues with Dr. Kalam
------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lot of gentles are speaking on religious conversions and
>anticonversions,simply forgetting the fact that their thoughts
>are basically supported by Earth,Water,Air,Space and Fire(The
>solar system),but they do not question to which religion do these
>basic elements belong?.
>
> The causes of conversion are due to the false superiority
>of Religions,caste and their related ill treatment to the rest of
>the society.If one is honest enough to accept the fact that
>he/she breathes the same old eternal air of others and stands on
>the same Earth on which the rest of the mankind stand,there will
>be no conversions on the earth.
> Man is a dynamic whole having sleep as his/her beginning and
>end.Can any one say where from the sleep begin and end?.

>Some people say poor people are converted/exploited ....why don't
>the supporters of anticonversion find out the reason how they
>have been made poor?.The fact is that you have certified them
>inferior/untouchable Hindus without any shame against the facts
>for your selfish growth.
>
> One may feel that he/she is gaining out of this cunningness
>but they are bound to answere the eternal basic elements and that
>is the real meaning of human ONESS.
> Please do not boast yourselves for HINDU OR ANY RELIGION FOR
>WHICH NO RELIGION IS HIGHER THAN MAN WHOSE BOUNDARY IS THE
>ETERNAL BASIC ELEMENTS.
>
>MAN IS THE BEAUTY AND DO NOT SPOIL or kill HIM IN THE NAME OF
>RELIGION.
>
>
>OMAL_WORD@REDIFFMAIL.COM
>OM-----OM OF HINDU
>AL-----ALLAH OF MUSLIM
>WORD---WORD OF CHRIST
>
>
>
>M.PARAMASIVAM
10.11.2002

niraj [guest]
genral issues Posted 11-20-2002 05:56

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
RESPECTED SIR, NAMASTE.YOUR THOUGHTS GIVE ME A VISION.I WANT TO SHA RE SOME THUGHTS. 1.REVAMPING OF JUDICIAL SYSTEM.GOVT IS LARGEST LITIGHANT.IT SHOULD HONOUR COURT DECISION WITHOUT APPEAL.CRIMINAL CASES SHOULD BE DECIDED WITHIN 30 DAYS. 2.PEOPLE REPRESENTATION ACT REAPPEALED.CRIMINALS SHOULD NOT BE MP/MLA. 3INFRASTRUCTRE PROJECTS SHOULD COMPLETE IN TIME.YOUR OFFICE CAN MONITOR 10 LARGEST NATIONAL PROJECTS.ADVICE CABINET ON IT.INVITE PUBLIC VIEWS. 4.LAND REVENUE RECORDS SHOULD BE COMPUTERISED.REGISTRATION OF PROPERTY SHOULD BE DONE VIA INTERNET. 5.ALL CITIZENS SHOULD GIVEN UNIQUE NUMBER.BIO DATA OF EACH CITIZEN SHOULD BE LINKED,ACCESSIBLE VIA INTERNET 6.NO FREE ELECTRICITY.NO CHARITY FOR CHEAP POPULARITY BY POLITICAL PARTIES.CENTRE GOVT SHOULD DEDUCT COST FREE PRODUCTS FROM CENTRE AID 7.ONE CITY PER STATE PER YEAR SHOULD BE DEVELOPED.NOIDA EXAMPLE SHOULD BE FOLLOWED. I FEEL ABOVE POLICIES WILL MAKE INDIA STRONG &DEVELOPED YOURS SINCERELY NIRAJ

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You are here: www.abdulkalam.com Message Forums > Share General Issues with Dr. Kalam > brother hood is the need of the hour Tell a friend about this page! Back to Topic List | Post New Reply [Standard View] | Detailed View Previous Topic | Next Topic Topic:brother hood is the need of the hour paramasivam [guest]   brother hood is the need of the hour Posted 11-10-2002 17:45 Lot of gentles are speaking on religious conversions and >anticonversions,simply forgetting the fact that their thoughts >are basically supported by Earth,Water,Air,Space and Fire(The >solar system),but they do not question to which religion do these >basic elements belong?. > > The causes of conversion are due to the false superiority >of Religions,caste and their related ill treatment to the rest of >the society.If one is honest enough to accept the fact that >he/she breathes the same old eternal air of others and stands on >the same Earth on which the rest of the mankind stand,there will >be no conversions on the earth. > Man is a dynamic whole having sleep as his/her beginning and >end.Can any one say where from the sleep begin and end?. >Some people say poor people are converted/exploited ....why don't >the supporters of anticonversion find out the reason how they >have been made poor?.The fact is that you have certified them >inferior/untouchable Hindus without any shame against the facts >for your selfish growth. > > One may feel that he/she is gaining out of this cunningness >but they are bound to answere the eternal basic elements and that >is the real meaning of human ONESS. > Please do not boast yourselves for HINDU OR ANY RELIGION FOR >WHICH NO RELIGION IS HIGHER THAN MAN WHOSE BOUNDARY IS THE >ETERNAL BASIC ELEMENTS. > >MAN IS THE BEAUTY AND DO NOT SPOIL or kill HIM IN THE NAME OF >RELIGION. > > >OMAL_WORD@REDIFFMAIL.COM >OM-----OM OF HINDU >AL-----ALLAH OF MUSLIM >WORD---WORD OF CHRIST > > > >M.PARAMASIVAM 10.11.2002 niraj [guest]   genral issues Posted 11-20-2002 05:56 RESPECTED SIR, NAMASTE.YOUR THOUGHTS GIVE ME A VISION.I WANT TO SHA RE SOME THUGHTS. 1.REVAMPING OF JUDICIAL SYSTEM.GOVT IS LARGEST LITIGHANT.IT SHOULD HONOUR COURT DECISION WITHOUT APPEAL.CRIMINAL CASES SHOULD BE DECIDED WITHIN 30 DAYS. 2.PEOPLE REPRESENTATION ACT REAPPEALED.CRIMINALS SHOULD NOT BE MP/MLA. 3INFRASTRUCTRE PROJECTS SHOULD COMPLETE IN TIME.YOUR OFFICE CAN MONITOR 10 LARGEST NATIONAL PROJECTS.ADVICE CABINET ON IT.INVITE PUBLIC VIEWS. 4.LAND REVENUE RECORDS SHOULD BE COMPUTERISED.REGISTRATION OF PROPERTY SHOULD BE DONE VIA INTERNET. 5.ALL CITIZENS SHOULD GIVEN UNIQUE NUMBER.BIO DATA OF EACH CITIZEN SHOULD BE LINKED,ACCESSIBLE VIA INTERNET 6.NO FREE ELECTRICITY.NO CHARITY FOR CHEAP POPULARITY BY POLITICAL PARTIES.CENTRE GOVT SHOULD DEDUCT COST FREE PRODUCTS FROM CENTRE AID 7.ONE CITY PER STATE PER YEAR SHOULD BE DEVELOPED.NOIDA EXAMPLE SHOULD BE FOLLOWED. I FEEL ABOVE POLICIES WILL MAKE INDIA STRONG &DEVELOPED YOURS SINCERELY NIRAJ [Standard View] | Detailed View Previous Topic | Next Topic Tell a friend about this page! Back to Topic List | Post New Reply

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The root of today's war is the 8th verse of 118 th psalm.
but the man has limited the name to just a word .he/she is not able to see the word in terms of individual alphabets.
we have totally forgotten that the basic form of life is sounding light(LIGHT+SOUND).we have divided us with words and forgot to unify in terms of basic elements.the real meaning of man's Sleep is forgotten.
-------------------
OMAL_WORD
--------------------
OM-OM OF HINDU
AL-ALLAH OF MUSLIM
WORD-WORD OF CHRIST.
-------------------------------------
SLEEP IS THE ALPHA AND OMEGA OF HUMANITY
AND THE NAME OF GOD IS ANY/ALL WORD
WORD

The root of today's war is the 8th verse of 118 th psalm.
but the man has limited the name to just a word .he/she is not able to see the word in terms of individual alphabets.
we have totally forgotten that the basic form of life is sounding light(LIGHT+SOUND).we have divided us with words and forgot to unify in terms of basic elements.the real meaning of man's Sleep is forgotten.
-------------------
OMAL_WORD
--------------------
OM-OM OF HINDU
AL-ALLAH OF MUSLIM
WORD-WORD OF CHRIST.
-------------------------------------
SLEEP IS THE ALPHA AND OMEGA OF HUMANITY
AND THE NAME OF GOD IS ANY/ALL WORD
WORD

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brother hood is the need of the hour Posted 11-10-2002 17:45

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Lot of gentles are speaking on religious conversions and
>anticonversions,simply forgetting the fact that their thoughts
>are basically supported by Earth,Water,Air,Space and Fire(The
>solar system),but they do not question to which religion do these
>basic elements belong?.
>
> The causes of conversion are due to the false superiority
>of Religions,caste and their related ill treatment to the rest of
>the society.If one is honest enough to accept the fact that
>he/she breathes the same old eternal air of others and stands on
>the same Earth on which the rest of the mankind stand,there will
>be no conversions on the earth.
> Man is a dynamic whole having sleep as his/her beginning and
>end.Can any one say where from the sleep begin and end?.

>Some people say poor people are converted/exploited ....why don't
>the supporters of anticonversion find out the reason how they
>have been made poor?.The fact is that you have certified them
>inferior/untouchable Hindus without any shame against the facts
>for your selfish growth.
>
> One may feel that he/she is gaining out of this cunningness
>but they are bound to answere the eternal basic elements and that
>is the real meaning of human ONESS.
> Please do not boast yourselves for HINDU OR ANY RELIGION FOR
>WHICH NO RELIGION IS HIGHER THAN MAN WHOSE BOUNDARY IS THE
>ETERNAL BASIC ELEMENTS.
>
>MAN IS THE BEAUTY AND DO NOT SPOIL or kill HIM IN THE NAME OF
>RELIGION.
>
>
>OMAL_WORD@REDIFFMAIL.COM
>OM-----OM OF HINDU
>AL-----ALLAH OF MUSLIM
>WORD---WORD OF CHRIST
>
>
>
>M.PARAMASIVAM
10.11.2002

niraj [guest]
genral issues Posted 11-20-2002 05:56

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
RESPECTED SIR, NAMASTE.YOUR THOUGHTS GIVE ME A VISION.I WANT TO SHA RE SOME THUGHTS. 1.REVAMPING OF JUDICIAL SYSTEM.GOVT IS LARGEST LITIGHANT.IT SHOULD HONOUR COURT DECISION WITHOUT APPEAL.CRIMINAL CASES SHOULD BE DECIDED WITHIN 30 DAYS. 2.PEOPLE REPRESENTATION ACT REAPPEALED.CRIMINALS SHOULD NOT BE MP/MLA. 3INFRASTRUCTRE PROJECTS SHOULD COMPLETE IN TIME.YOUR OFFICE CAN MONITOR 10 LARGEST NATIONAL PROJECTS.ADVICE CABINET ON IT.INVITE PUBLIC VIEWS. 4.LAND REVENUE RECORDS SHOULD BE COMPUTERISED.REGISTRATION OF PROPERTY SHOULD BE DONE VIA INTERNET. 5.ALL CITIZENS SHOULD GIVEN UNIQUE NUMBER.BIO DATA OF EACH CITIZEN SHOULD BE LINKED,ACCESSIBLE VIA INTERNET 6.NO FREE ELECTRICITY.NO CHARITY FOR CHEAP POPULARITY BY POLITICAL PARTIES.CENTRE GOVT SHOULD DEDUCT COST FREE PRODUCTS FROM CENTRE AID 7.ONE CITY PER STATE PER YEAR SHOULD BE DEVELOPED.NOIDA EXAMPLE SHOULD BE FOLLOWED. I FEEL ABOVE POLICIES WILL MAKE INDIA STRONG &DEVELOPED YOURS SINCERELY NIRAJ

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It says in the BIBLE, that GOD laughs at those DICTATORS who think thatthey hold power........not knowing that at any moment GOD can destroy them. Everything is happening for a reason..........let the letters in the sky take care of everything...........

No wonder "Jesus" loved the little children. If for a moment we took one little child of every race & put them in a room together. Race or religion would not be an issue. Their common bond being they are all children and would play well together. So as adults I wonder what the heck are WE ALL DOING WRONG? Someone taught us to hate and it's just wrong period! You would think as adults we would know better.