imc indymedia

Los Angeles Indymedia : Activist News

white themeblack themered themetheme help
About Us Contact Us Calendar Publish RSS
Features
latest news
best of news
syndication
commentary


KILLRADIO

VozMob

ABCF LA

A-Infos Radio

Indymedia On Air

Dope-X-Resistance-LA List

LAAMN List




IMC Network:

Original Cities

www.indymedia.org africa: ambazonia canarias estrecho / madiaq kenya nigeria south africa canada: hamilton london, ontario maritimes montreal ontario ottawa quebec thunder bay vancouver victoria windsor winnipeg east asia: burma jakarta japan korea manila qc europe: abruzzo alacant andorra antwerpen armenia athens austria barcelona belarus belgium belgrade bristol brussels bulgaria calabria croatia cyprus emilia-romagna estrecho / madiaq euskal herria galiza germany grenoble hungary ireland istanbul italy la plana liege liguria lille linksunten lombardia london madrid malta marseille nantes napoli netherlands nice northern england norway oost-vlaanderen paris/Île-de-france patras piemonte poland portugal roma romania russia saint-petersburg scotland sverige switzerland thessaloniki torun toscana toulouse ukraine united kingdom valencia latin america: argentina bolivia chiapas chile chile sur cmi brasil colombia ecuador mexico peru puerto rico qollasuyu rosario santiago tijuana uruguay valparaiso venezuela venezuela oceania: adelaide aotearoa brisbane burma darwin jakarta manila melbourne perth qc sydney south asia: india mumbai united states: arizona arkansas asheville atlanta austin baltimore big muddy binghamton boston buffalo charlottesville chicago cleveland colorado columbus dc hawaii houston hudson mohawk kansas city la madison maine miami michigan milwaukee minneapolis/st. paul new hampshire new jersey new mexico new orleans north carolina north texas nyc oklahoma philadelphia pittsburgh portland richmond rochester rogue valley saint louis san diego san francisco san francisco bay area santa barbara santa cruz, ca sarasota seattle tampa bay tennessee urbana-champaign vermont western mass worcester west asia: armenia beirut israel palestine process: fbi/legal updates mailing lists process & imc docs tech volunteer projects: print radio satellite tv video regions: oceania united states topics: biotech

Surviving Cities

www.indymedia.org africa: canada: quebec east asia: japan europe: athens barcelona belgium bristol brussels cyprus germany grenoble ireland istanbul lille linksunten nantes netherlands norway portugal united kingdom latin america: argentina cmi brasil rosario oceania: aotearoa united states: austin big muddy binghamton boston chicago columbus la michigan nyc portland rochester saint louis san diego san francisco bay area santa cruz, ca tennessee urbana-champaign worcester west asia: palestine process: fbi/legal updates process & imc docs projects: radio satellite tv
printable version - js reader version - view hidden posts - tags and related articles

Usual suspects are behind anti-war protests

by John Leo Saturday, Mar. 01, 2003 at 1:48 PM

The sponsor of the New York rally was the umbrella group United for Peace and Justice, which can be described as the crazy far-left on its best behavior. he stench arising from the organizers attracts zero interest in the mainstream press. Writing in National Review, Byron Scott called it "the story no one wants to hear about the anti-war movement." If anti-war demonstrations were being organized by a tobacco company or the Augusta National Golf Club, the liberal establishment would erupt in screams of protest. No screaming now, though. These sponsors are just off-the-wall loonies and Stalinist front groups.

Usual suspects are behind anti-war protests

Two rules of thumb for protest rallies: Always claim a crowd 200,000 or so larger than any reasonable estimate, and always insist that your demonstrators are all ordinary, stable middle-class folk.

Here in New York, the sponsors of the Feb. 15 anti-war rally claimed a crowd of 375,000 to 500,000. The Washington Post said "at least 100,000." The police commissioner thought it was around 100,000. By Manhattan standards, this is not a big number. When Paul Simon sang in Central Park, 750,000 to 800,000 people came.

Ken Layne, an Internet blogger, points out that 200,000 people turned out to watch the Daytona 500 on Feb. 16, so the anti-war rallies in Manhattan and San Francisco may have drawn about as many people as one auto race held in the rain in Florida.

Maybe a million Americans turned out nationally to protest the war, Layne wrote, compared to 6 million who showed up over the weekend to watch Ben Affleck in "Daredevil," and 50 million who went to church on Sunday.

Whatever the numbers, the demonstrations were depicted in the media as so significant (taken with the larger and heavily anti-American rallies in Europe) that President Bush had better pay attention and change course.

One newspaper headline said "Anti-War Protesters Fail to Sway Bush on Plans for Iraq." Gosh, how stubborn can he be? Offhand comments by anchormen and letters to the editor expressed surprise that Bush failed to alter course when he learned that maybe one-half of 1 percent of Americans had taken to the streets for a couple of hours.

The media also fulfilled the deepest hopes of organizers by depicting the protest as a festival of soccer moms. Success depended on this because of the presence of Stalinists, Leninists and Maoists among the key organizers of the "peace" movement.

The sponsor of the New York rally was the umbrella group United for Peace and Justice, which can be described as the crazy far-left on its best behavior. The co-chair is Leslie Cagan, an oldtime radical organizer and a member of the Committee on Correspondence, which came out of a split inside the American Communist Party in 1991.

UPJ comes on as moderate enough to attract the churches and groups like Greenpeace. Its real function may be to deflect attention from the real power in the anti-war movement, ANSWER (Act Now to Stop War and End Racism), which doesn't bother to look moderate. ANSWER is a front group for the hard-left International Action Center (IAC), which is a front group for the Workers World Party, an old-line Stalinist group with legendary organizing skills. The WWP supported the Soviet invasion of Hungary, backed China's massacre in Tiananmen Square and fiercely supports Kim Jong Il's fanatic regime in North Korea. Few people in the "peace" movement seem bothered by having to listen to Leninist orators or walking along in marches with fans of North Korea.

The most hotly debated issue on the far-far-left is whether inspections in Iraq should go on forever, or whether inspections are illegitimate acts of war that must stop immediately. The latter notion is favored by ANSWER and Ramsey Clark, the addled former attorney general, now a figurehead for the IAC. He defends Slobodan Milosovic, says the United States has already launched genocide in Iraq and argues that Jesus Christ was a terrorist.

The stench arising from the organizers attracts zero interest in the mainstream press. Writing in National Review, Byron Scott called it "the story no one wants to hear about the anti-war movement." If anti-war demonstrations were being organized by a tobacco company or the Augusta National Golf Club, the liberal establishment would erupt in screams of protest. No screaming now, though. These sponsors are just off-the-wall loonies and Stalinist front groups.

Coverage of Feb. 15 gave us conventional soccer-mom reporting, focused on ordinary Americans, preferably Republicans, veterans and people who had never marched before. Wholesomeness was everywhere.

The news media and the organizers' Web sites featured photos of children and earnest "give peace a chance" demonstrators. But if you poke around the Internet, you can turn up different pictures and messages at the New York rally: the ritual scorn for "Amerika," "Queer Resistance for Palestine," hammer-and-sickle flags, pictures of Che Guevara and the predictable images of President Bush as Hitler. The banners of ANSWER, some huge, seemed to be everywhere. Apparently the far-left presence was bigger and uglier in San Francisco and Europe.

Many anti-war people understand the problem of relying so heavily on the Stalinists. They say little, but they wonder whether the soccer moms will crowd out the Stalinists, or whether the dangerous hard left is in the process of taking over the "peace" movement entirely. Good question.

Report this post as:

LATEST COMMENTS ABOUT THIS ARTICLE
Listed below are the 10 latest comments of 51 posted about this article.
These comments are anonymously submitted by the website visitors.
TITLE AUTHOR DATE
I was there. Ruth Saturday, Mar. 01, 2003 at 2:16 PM
apache more weakness from the BullSHit camp Saturday, Mar. 01, 2003 at 3:23 PM
more weakness from the BullSHit camp apache Saturday, Mar. 01, 2003 at 3:24 PM
Simple Simple Simon Saturday, Mar. 01, 2003 at 4:05 PM
Unt du biest ein kliena swienhunt hausfrau Saturday, Mar. 01, 2003 at 4:23 PM
That's The Best You Can Come Up With krankyman Saturday, Mar. 01, 2003 at 4:28 PM
let's get rid of "rule of thumb" marco Saturday, Mar. 01, 2003 at 5:13 PM
Facts are inconvient things - for you. Diogenes Saturday, Mar. 01, 2003 at 6:07 PM
give it a rest fresca Saturday, Mar. 01, 2003 at 6:35 PM
It amuses me Diogenes Saturday, Mar. 01, 2003 at 6:43 PM
NICE TRY - short of the mark as always. Diogenes Saturday, Mar. 01, 2003 at 8:16 PM
That dog won't hunt Diogenes Bush Admirer Saturday, Mar. 01, 2003 at 8:22 PM
And your point? Diogenes Saturday, Mar. 01, 2003 at 8:33 PM
no legitimate refutation - yeah right EMS Saturday, Mar. 01, 2003 at 9:10 PM
I don't give a shit. Sheepdog Saturday, Mar. 01, 2003 at 9:56 PM
Hey everyone! Sheepdog Saturday, Mar. 01, 2003 at 10:05 PM
Simple Simple Simon Saturday, Mar. 01, 2003 at 10:21 PM
Simple Simple Simon Saturday, Mar. 01, 2003 at 10:51 PM
Sheepdog Garaj Dohr Sunday, Mar. 02, 2003 at 1:43 AM
Garaj Dohr Sheepdog Sunday, Mar. 02, 2003 at 7:14 AM
Sympathy for Sheepdog AdolphPastrami Sunday, Mar. 02, 2003 at 6:52 PM
Fuck you AdolF! Sheepdog Sunday, Mar. 02, 2003 at 6:56 PM
Sheepdog = Bigot AdolphPastrami Sunday, Mar. 02, 2003 at 6:59 PM
You talking to me? Sheepdog Sunday, Mar. 02, 2003 at 7:01 PM
Fuck you Sheepdog Sunday, Mar. 02, 2003 at 7:06 PM
Sheepdog = racism AdolphPastrami Sunday, Mar. 02, 2003 at 7:07 PM
Now Adolph is talkong to itself Sheepdog Sunday, Mar. 02, 2003 at 9:17 PM
Adolf Baloney Diogenes Monday, Mar. 03, 2003 at 2:44 AM
Adolf Baloney Diogenes Monday, Mar. 03, 2003 at 3:10 PM
Sheepdog He'll just start useing your nick Monday, Mar. 03, 2003 at 3:17 PM
And also... Sheepdog Monday, Mar. 03, 2003 at 6:10 PM
you're so fucking stupid James Allen Sunday, Mar. 09, 2003 at 3:12 AM
What about when we helped him kill iranians? Pissed Off in Ohio Sunday, Mar. 09, 2003 at 4:47 AM
Mr. POIO Sheepdog Sunday, Mar. 09, 2003 at 4:54 AM
It could be done without IP logs Pissed Off in Ohio Sunday, Mar. 09, 2003 at 5:13 AM
And also sheepdog Sunday, Mar. 09, 2003 at 5:31 AM
You should chat with them about it, this has come up before The sane Sheepdog Sunday, Mar. 09, 2003 at 5:37 AM
Yeah paranoia is a rule here Pissed Off, Armed and Paranoid in Ohio Sunday, Mar. 09, 2003 at 5:51 AM
sheepdog to the real sheepdog Sunday, Mar. 09, 2003 at 5:55 AM
Yeah Someone else? Sunday, Mar. 09, 2003 at 6:02 AM
Hey Pissed Off, Armed and Paranoid in Ohio KFC Sunday, Mar. 09, 2003 at 6:17 AM
Hold on Jackie Capps Sunday, Mar. 09, 2003 at 7:50 PM

Local News

OUR HOUSE Grief Support Center Presents Night for Hope O30 5:38PM

Marshall Tuck’s racist dog whistle O27 5:01AM

Marshall Tuck’s ethnocentrism contradicts Californian values O27 4:32AM

Contra Costa-Hawkins O25 3:48AM

Debunking Some Anti-Prop 10 Propaganda O12 6:56AM

Why Should California Choose De Leon Over Feinstein? O10 9:55PM

Change Links September 2018 posted S02 10:22PM

More Scandals Rock Southern California Nuke Plant San Onofre A30 11:09PM

Site Outage Friday A30 3:49PM

Change Links August 2018 A14 1:56AM

Setback for Developer of SC Farm Land A12 11:09PM

More problems at Shutdown San Onofre Nuke J29 10:40PM

Change Links 2018 July posted J09 8:27PM

More Pix: "Families Belong Together," Pasadena J02 7:16PM

"Families Belong Together" March, Pasadena J02 7:08PM

Short Report on the Families Belong Together Protest in Los Angeles J30 11:26PM

Summer 2018 National Immigrant Solidarity Network News Alert! J11 6:58AM

Watch the Debate: Excluded Candidates for Governor of California M31 5:20AM

Change Links June 2018 posted M28 7:41AM

The Montrose Peace Vigil at 12 Years M22 8:01PM

Unity Archive Project M21 9:42AM

More Local News...

Other/Breaking News

“Animaniacs in Concert!” Starring Voice Legend Rob Paulsen D10 6:49PM

Conscientisation anesthésiée D10 4:20PM

Driven to Consumption and Money out of Nothng D10 12:52PM

Oppose Environmentally-Harmful Development D10 4:03AM

Oppose Environmentally-Harmful Development D10 3:58AM

Allo, quelqu'un ? Allo, quelqu'une ? D09 9:16AM

deral Government Officials are not allowed to take leaflets nor pick up items in privste D09 4:15AM

Communist Mouthwash Hides Nature of Nations Suffering in Comm Pyramids Ploys D09 12:01AM

Atlanta: metro Pillage, Poison Gas, Pricks D08 9:13PM

Atlanta Metro Suffers Under Pillage, Shame lso Political Poison Gases D08 8:41PM

Fed Says College Students Have More Debt than Previous Generations D07 3:08PM

Paraphysique de l'insurrection et de l'émeute D07 9:55AM

Corruption of USA government D06 4:14AM

"We live in a time of radical counter-enlightenment" D04 1:45AM

Did Woolsey Fire Cause Radioactive Fallout? D03 10:26PM

G20 Discusses Preventing Financial Crisis and Small Island Economies N30 3:10PM

Driver near Campbell San Jose researches Bus Traffic from Northern Mexico N29 4:04AM

The Death of Small Businesses in Big Cities, Explained N28 3:43PM

Felons Shw Ninjasred Heavy Truck Tyres N28 2:28PM

Paraphysique de la consommation/pollution N28 8:08AM

Paraphysique de l'effet spectateur N26 11:13AM

Condominium, terrorisme du capital N24 8:52AM

Debt and Tax Policies Needed to Prevent Crisis Says Finance Watchdog Group N23 2:40PM

Independent Media Crackdown and Global Social Movements N22 9:45PM

Abécédaire du fascisme restreint et général N22 8:41AM

“Animaniacs in Concert!” Starring Voice Legend Rob Paulsen Heads to Portland, Oregon N20 8:39PM

Socialism in American English N20 12:04PM

Noske, noskisme réactualisé N20 11:29AM

More Breaking News...
© 2000-2018 Los Angeles Independent Media Center. Unless otherwise stated by the author, all content is free for non-commercial reuse, reprint, and rebroadcast, on the net and elsewhere. Opinions are those of the contributors and are not necessarily endorsed by the Los Angeles Independent Media Center. Running sf-active v0.9.4 Disclaimer | Privacy