So....unless someone guzzles beer or their SUV guzzles gas, they have no right to an opinion?

WoW.....another supporter of the U.S. Constitution.*


*except for the 1st Amendment.

PS: Why the fuck aren't you over there....hmmmmm?

...who CLAIM to support our troops also support the Republican Congress in voting to reduce the VA budget by $25 BILLION dollars? You people are so hypocritical, it's disgusting. You know where you can shove those American flags that you're so crazy about. Conservatives are totally incapable of independent thought. They just blindly follow the president like the sheep that they are.

March 29, 2003 -- American soldiers should suffer "a million Mogadishus" in Iraq, a Columbia University professor told thousands of students and faculty members at an anti-war forum.
Nicholas De Genova said those inflammatory words - a reference to the Somali city where 18 U.S. soldiers were killed in the 1993 incident that inspired the movie Black Hawk Down - at an "anti-war teach-in" Wednesday at the school's Low Library.

"The only true heroes are those who find ways that help defeat the U.S. military," said De Genova, an assistant professor of anthropology and Latino studies.

De Genova also asserted that Americans who call themselves "patriots" are white supremacists.



De Genova's hopes for an American defeat in Iraq was cheered by the crowd of 3,000 people who had gathered at the five-hour anti-war lecture.

"If we really [believe] that this war is criminal . . . then we have to believe in the victory of the Iraqi people and the defeat of the U.S. war machine."

De Genova said the U.S. Army is composed largely of men and women with a "treacherous lack of prospects for a decent life."

The 35-year-old professor's mention of the bloody Somali ambush where American soldiers were dragged through the streets was largely met with silence from the stunned crowd of peaceniks.

Two professors who spoke after De Genova immediately distanced themselves from his explosive anti-American comments.

De Genova could not be reached for comment last night.

In a statement released yesterday, a Columbia University spokesman said De Genova "was speaking as an individual at a teach-in. He was exercising his right to free speech. His statement does not in any way represent the views of Columbia University."

History professor Eric Foner, who helped organize the event, said he did not share De Genova's opinions on the war.

"I disagreed strongly and I said so," he said. "If I had known what he was going to say, I would have been reluctant to have him speak."

Foner said De Genova was a last-minute invitee and one of 25 speakers who "did not represent the general tone of the event - which was highly educational." With Post Wire Services
http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/33194.htm

http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.sht...003/3/30/124708

Peace movement leader and human rights activist, former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark, defended Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein on Friday, saying that reports of his brutality were part of a U.S.-backed disinformation campaign.

Asked about an eyewitness account of the torture death of an Iraqi dissident who was put in a glass cage and eaten alive by dogs while Saddam and other top leaders watched, Clark told WLIE-NY radio's Mike Siegel, "That's the most absurd story I've heard in a long time."

"Propaganda can be pretty vicious," the antiwar activist warned before trashing the torture account a second time, saying, "If you believe that, you're a hopeless case."

Clark did, however, acknowledge the truthfulness of reports that Saddam Hussein's son-in-law was murdered after he defected in the 1990's and was then persuaded to return, but he declined the pin the blame on the Iraqi leader.

Instead the human rights activist blamed the man's execution on "people working for the [Iraqi] government, apparently."

Asked if Saddam controlled the government at the time, Clark responded, "The government is a lot of people."

The antiwar leader said that other accounts from Iraqi defectors who have described Saddam's brutality, as well as reports of terrorist training operations inside Iraq, were probably false.

"I've worked with problems of defection and informers for years and years and they're not generally reliable," Clark told WLIE. "You have to be careful about who you're talking to. I also recognize propaganda. And I hear more garbage and propaganda coming out about how evil the Iraqi people are."

He then chastised radio host Siegel for spreading accounts of Saddam's brutality, complaining, "I think you're just fantasizing with propaganda. It shows your own hatred and narrow-mindedness."

Minutes later, the former U.S. attorney general condemned U.S.-backed economic sanctions against Iraq during the 1990s, calling them, "absolute genocide."


JUST WHO DO YOU THINK IS FUNDING ALL THESE PEACE RALLIES? THEY AREN'T FOR FREE, YOU KNOW!

Fuck off, you turd. I hate anyone who doesn't agree with me! But I love America!

RAMSEY CLARK HEADS UP ANSWER

Outspoken cultural activist Jesse Lee Peterson is blasting the organizers of anti-war protests occurring across the nation, saying they are "trying to rip our country apart from within."

Best known for sponsoring the annual "National Day of Repudiation of Jesse Jackson," Peterson, founder and president of the L.A.-based Brotherhood Organization of a New Destiny, released a statement today calling protest organizations such as A.N.S.W.E.R. and Not in Our Name "communist dupes." As WorldNetDaily reported, A.N.S.W.E.R. is affiliated with the World Workers Party, a quasi-Stalinist organization that supports authoritarian regimes and communist dictatorships.


Jesse Peterson

"It's a shame that in the name of 'peace' we have 'Americans' attacking police officers, destroying property, blocking streets and federal buildings, and disrupting the lives of law abiding Americans. These people must be stopped!" said Peterson.

Protesters wreaked havoc in San Francisco this week with some purposely vomiting on the grounds of the local Federal Building.

While publicly promoting non-violent protest and humanitarian causes, some key leaders and prominent groups that organized and participated in the recent anti-war demonstrations at the U.S. Capitol and San Francisco are staunch supporters of terrorist groups and dictatorial regimes worldwide.

In fact, critics now charge that the "new" anti-war movement is being "hijacked" by this dominant network whose organizational power is increasing and whose political agenda is anathema to most Americans.

The Saturday, Oct. 26 rally, which focused on opposition to a U.S.-led war against Iraq and drew 100,000 protesters, featured speeches by the Rev. Jesse Jackson, the Rev. Al Sharpton, actress-activist Susan Sarandon, singer-songwriter Patti Smith, as well as a host of lesser-known figures. The protests also served as a platform for Democratic Party campaigning, as top politicos hobnobbed with the elite of the anti-war movement.

The large turnout signals an invigoration of the "new" anti-war movement, which has been increasingly dominated by the international A.N.S.W.E.R. coalition, an organizational front group formed by the International Action Center. Closely allied with IAC is the World Workers Party, a quasi-Stalinist organization that supports authoritarian regimes and communist dictatorships. The World Workers Party created the IAC in 1992, and put Ramsey Clark, now kingpin of the anti-war movement, at the head of it.

Also at the forefront in the weekend demonstration and current anti-war protests was the "Not In Our Name" campaign. NOIN spokesman Clark Kissinger represents that movement to the public and is an integral part of Refuse and Resist, an organization with close ties to the Revolutionary Communist Party USA, of which Kissinger is a member and writer for its newspaper.

The controversial ties of IAC remain almost completely unreported by the mainstream media, but increasingly are being exposed by a handful of enterprising journalists, including Michelle Goldberg of Salon.com, Ian Williams, United Nations correspondent for The Nation; Michael Tremoglie, Edward Immler and David Horowitz of FrontPage Magazine and Christopher Hitchens, a 20-year veteran of The Nation magazine, now writing independently.

The controversy has now spread to the commentary pages of Mother Jones and also has Justin Raimondo of Antiwar.com crying foul while bemoaning San Francisco's "Baghdad-by-the-Bay" protest experience.

"Pathetic" is how Raimondo described the protest, complaining that those in charge of the demonstration "weren't about to brook any criticism of either their ideology or their methods: this was the only show in town, and they weren't about to give it up."

Now, a small but growing number at both ends of the political spectrum, as well as libertarian activists and writers, are accusing the organization's elite of being sellouts to foreign dictators while giving lip service to humanitarian concerns. Some warn that this "patina of morality" obfuscates a surreptitious political agenda: the armed overthrow of the American republic.

Leading critics from both left and right now charge the leaders with supporting the very things against which they claim to be protesting.

"The International Action Center and the Revolutionary Communist Party [USA] aren't just extremists in the service of a good cause," says Michelle Goldberg, a writer with Salon.com. "They are cheerleaders for some of the most sinister regimes and insurgencies on the planet."

"Once people realize this," Goldberg adds, "it could easily discredit any nascent anti-war movement, unless a more rational group comes to the forefront."

Sock puppet for Saddam?

The founder of the IAC and director for A.N.S.W.E.R. is Ramsey Clark, who is introduced at IAC rallies as the former attorney general under the Lyndon Johnson administration. No mention is made of the fact that Clark, in his current occupation, has been retained by the State of Iraq to serve as legal counsel for the regime.

Not surprisingly, criticism of Saddam Hussein is not aired at IAC/A.N.S.W.E.R.-controlled protest events. No mention is made of Saddam's gassing of the Kurds, invasion of Kuwait, murder of an estimated 1 million of his own people, environmental terrorism, imprisonment, torture or execution of political prisoners.

The suffering of the Iraqi people is blamed solely on the United States, just as the suffering of Palestinians is blamed solely on Israel.

IAC/A.N.S.W.E.R leaders have aligned themselves exclusively with pro-Arafat groups. The only Jewish people truly embraced as "brothers and sisters" are those who equally denounce Israel or deny Israel's right to exist. A.N.S.W.E.R's pro-Palestinian march in April was regarded by many, in fact, little more than a thinly disguised public display of anti-Semitism masquerading as a "pro-Palestinian" march. Frequent mention was made at the march of a "supposed holocaust," and of a "genocide" in Jenin, despite the fact that New York Times reporters allowed into the area had already discredited such reports as erroneous.

The "genocide" claims dominated the rally, even though fatality estimates had already been downgraded from 500 down to 56-90, most of which, according to media reports, were said to be terrorists.

Clark represented PLO leaders in a suit brought by the family of Leon Klinghoffer, the elderly tourist who was shot and thrown overboard from the hijacked Achille Lauro cruise-ship by renegade Palestinian terrorists in 1986.

And while accusing the Bush administration and Israel of Nazi-like war crimes, Clark fails to mention his former client Karl Linnas, an ex-Nazi concentration camp guard in Estonia, where he had overseen the murder of some 12,000 resistance fighters and Jews. Linnas was at that time being deported from the U.S. to the U.S.S.R. to face war-crimes charges. Clark lost the case, but went to bat for his client in the public arena. According to media reports, Clark said that he questioned the need to prosecute Nazis "forty years after some god-awful crime they're alleged to have committed."

While consistently denouncing the American and Israeli "terrorist states," IAC leadership, headed by Clark, have defended dictator Slobodan Milosevic in the International Criminal Court. They also leapt to the aid of genocidal Hutu militias as the U.N. wrote up war-crime charges against their leaders for ordering the slaughter of half a million Tutsi civilians in 1994.

Clark client, Rwanda genocide indictee Pastor Elizaphan Ntakirutimana, was accused of telling Tutsis to hide in his church and then summoning Hutus to massacre them. The genocidal leader later led killing squads in the "hell on earth" that Rwanda quickly became.

Their actions speak louder than words.

You and your Nazi friends are totally lame. Learn to do something constructive, please. If you are so gung-ho over this war, then: ENLIST!!! Get off your wides asses, out of your SUV's and go to Iraq, Chicken Hawks!!

Does anybody know where I can get an industrial wood chipper. I have $2500 to spend. It has to be relativily clean, but I don't want any bone fragments chips in the blades.

Anyone, anyone at all?

Where's you love? Oh, you reserve it for people who torture and gas children and rape women. Prove me wrong. I dare you .

I got a great job doing a competency job models for this country in the Middle East. Seems they have a job catagory called "Professional Rapist," Apparently its a civil service position in terms of pay and benefits. Problem is, no career path. I am supposed to design the job model so these folks can progress nomally up the civil servant ladder.

Problem is I have never done this before. I was hoping you liberals could give me some good advice since you apparenlty don't give a shit about what happens in that part of the world.

So should the entry level profesional rapist start with Children or with Women first. I mean what would take more skill?

Hmmm... the women wears veils, also known as burkhas, over their faces. That might make it easier so that you won't have to recognize their pained and tortured looks. These veils are also quite useful in hiding away any semblance of humanity. Although, if you are a sick-o and enjoy that torture of it all, go for the children. You can watch them cry.

shut up

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OK. I know there are probably a few of you liberals that were actually born in American, that have just been taken in by these commies. I know you're hurting, because you couldn't make it on your own in our free society and the reason you are always bringing up issues that pertain to free handouts by our federal government is because it's your only source of income. I know the commies make you a lot of promises, but you'll have to find out for yourself how well the keep them. My question to you is this - If we can pretend that your movement should overthrow our American government, what socialistic country would you want to rule over us?

THESE PROTESTING COMMUNIST MORONS ARE NOT ONLY BUTT UGLY, BUT FREAKISHLY STUPID TOO!!!!!! Just remember you freakin commies, most of us conservatives have GUNS, you try to overthrow our system of government, you communist pigs, we'll blow your damn heads off. You vomiting shitholes.

Get fucked.

I guess when you people start using filth instead of reasoning, you have conceded the debate to those of us who oppose you.
P.S. "This one is for you", I noticed while typing this, your "debate" went limp, just like your ability to debate.

Another beautiful pro war demonstrator.

This morning while he was making tea I went up behind him and fisted his shitty little arse.

Is that an old woman with a big nose?

That's fine. Us gun owning conservatives will shoot that off for you too. It doesn't look like it's of much use anyway. We'll just be doing you a favor.

Ya know, I cudda called you a butt-fucking asshole, but your feeble attempts at humor are totally lame. Geeez: Whassa madda with you? Grow up on 50's sitcoms?

Decided that you are just a boring dork with too much time on his hands. Just another neocon weenie.

Will somebody please help me take my head out of my ass? It sure is dark in here!

Battle cry of the left:

"Aid & Comfort Saddam Now!"

Looks like he STILL has his empty head up his anus.

I can't believe anyone could be so disrespectful. I couldn't stand your boy Clinton (who didn't deserve any respect AT ALL!!) but I would never think of doing anything like this. You need to just get over the loss and appreciate what you have!!!!!!

Thanks for watching!

This is great! Comic Relief, if you will! Let um' protest, thats what this country is all about! Thanks to our wonderful president , the right thing WILL be done reguardless of what these people think. Just thank god they ARE a small minority of people who think this way. Bush 2004!!! The crazy people have escaped the nutt house and they wont leave the president alone! Thats ok, Im sure the president doesnt give them a second thought, he has REAL LIFE to deal with.

ohhh! That hurt! LOL!!!

Ouch! That hurt! LOL

The only beneficiary to removing Sadam Husein is Isreal since Sadam with his missles within range was a direct threat to them.
The only question is, which members of the junta were jewish.