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so if ANSWER is IAC which is Workers World party does anyone care

by ?? Friday, Jan. 24, 2003 at 4:56 AM

??

So the connection between ANSWER, the IAC and Workers World Party is VERY CLEAR! you can see this easily by just going to the following website

ANSWER

http://www.internationalanswer.org/

IAC

http://www.iacenter.org/

WORKERS WORLD PARTY

http://www.workers.org/

They don't even hide it. The same phone # and fax # this is listed on the IAC and WWP as national contact #'s 212-633-6646

fax 212-633-2889

just HAPPENS to also be the same number for ANSWER national line

what the hell is going on here?

and does anyone even care?

does anyone care that they are going to basically Workers World Party protest? this is a pro-stalinist organzations BTW, a group that supported the works of the horrific Slobodan Milosevic, a group that supported Deng Xiaoping in the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre.

Do any of you so called activist even give a fuck? and you call it red-baiting when people point this shit out. This makes me so sick.

What the hell is wrong with these organizations. Why the hell can't any of you stay honest and decent, and let people know what you believe and THEN find out if they actually support you? why do you have to lie and EXPLOIT the anti-war movement with your awful protests with people just holding signs and walking around, protests that get NOTHING done! NOTHING! you had 200,000 or however many people in the streets of SF and DC, what the hell did that do? you could have organzied NON-VIOLENT civil disobediance, and you didn't even do that. Right now it's Wed. Jan 22, 5 days after your march, and everyone has forgot about what happned this weekend already. NOBODY is talking about, because as usual it was a waste of time, money and energy, that accomplished NOTHING!

Anyone who brings up these issues you say that they are using cointelpro.

It's not cointelpro to critize, especially when the lies and bull shit are coming from your side, it's not cointelpro to point out the obvious, you all don't even try to hide it, it's as plain as day.

the WWP (Workers World Party) is the IAC (international Action center) which in turn is ANSWER. You share the same phone lines, meet in the same offices, have the same power structure, fund each others events.

is there even a list to account for any of the $$ that you spend. You ask for donations at every rally, it feels like im attending chruch. What the hell do you do with that money that people give you. It's their hard earned dollars. What do you do with it? who decided what you do with it? where does it go? and to what organzations.

You want the red-baiting to end? well you can have that in a very simple step.

BE HONEST!

BE HONEST

BE TRANSPARENT

BE TRANSPARENT

are you that ashamed of your WWP politics that you have to hide it not just behind ONE but but behind TWO organizations?

ANSWER is not the answer, and this "red-baiting" will not go away until you stop your irresponsible and disgusting organzing practices.

Want more proof? check out:

http://www.la.indymedia.org/news/2003/01/27079.php

or

http://authoritarianopportunistswhocozyuptogenocidaldictators-forpeace.org/

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As The Message Gets Louder...

by Vince Foster Friday, Jan. 24, 2003 at 5:32 AM

...so do the attacks on the messenger.

Simply COINTELPRO 101, folks.

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The truth isn't "red-baiting"

by 000 Friday, Jan. 24, 2003 at 8:07 AM

I am glad to see more posts on this issue. I have posted similar comments here (take special notice of those who have lived through it):

http://www.la.indymedia.org/news/2003/01/26503.php

Everytime the "reds" get called out on their lies and distortions, they either:

1. call you a "red-baiter", or

2. claim you are a government agent and using COINTELPRO tactics (which is not even accurate if you know the details of cointelpro), or

3. attack you personally and avoid the facts of the debate at hand.

For the record, i am an "anti-authoritarian" activist. I will, and do, march in the anti-war demonstrations alongside the members of ANSWER, but will never stop calling out the hypocrisy of their agenda (i.e. build the party, sell papers, achieve state power a la Mao, etc.).

000

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Its actually quite simple

by Jay Lowe Friday, Jan. 24, 2003 at 4:19 PM

The people opposing the toppling of Saddam's sadistic regime, are the same a-----es who supported Stalin's sadistic regime, and Ho's and Castro's, etc.

The Left has long been the dictator's friend and ally.

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Correction

by 000 Friday, Jan. 24, 2003 at 6:57 PM

In regards to Jay Lowe's comments, you are almost correct when you say the Left has long been the dictator's friend and ally.

I would correct that by saying the *authoritarian* left has long been the dictator's friend and ally. AND, we cannot say that without saying that the US Govt has long been the dictator's ally as well (Saddam, Noriega, Pinochet, Osama, etc. etc.).

000

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