imc indymedia
white themeblack themered themetheme help
About Us Contact Us Subscribe Calendar Publish RSS
Features
latest news
best of news
syndication
commentary


KILLRADIO

CopWatch LA

ABCF LA

Activist Video

Dope-X-Resistance-LA List

LAAMN List





IMC Network: www.indymedia.org africa: ambazonia canarias estrecho / madiaq kenya nigeria south africa canada: hamilton london, ontario maritimes montreal ontario ottawa quebec thunder bay vancouver victoria windsor winnipeg east asia: burma jakarta japan korea manila qc europe: abruzzo alacant andorra antwerpen armenia athens austria barcelona belarus belgium belgrade bristol brussels bulgaria calabria croatia cyprus emilia-romagna estrecho / madiaq euskal herria galiza germany grenoble hungary ireland istanbul italy la plana liege liguria lille linksunten lombardia london madrid malta marseille nantes napoli netherlands nice northern england norway oost-vlaanderen paris/Île-de-france patras piemonte poland portugal roma romania russia saint-petersburg scotland sverige switzerland thessaloniki torun toscana toulouse ukraine united kingdom valencia latin america: argentina bolivia chiapas chile chile sur cmi brasil colombia ecuador mexico peru puerto rico qollasuyu rosario santiago tijuana uruguay valparaiso venezuela venezuela oceania: adelaide aotearoa brisbane burma darwin jakarta manila melbourne perth qc sydney south asia: india mumbai united states: arizona arkansas asheville atlanta austin baltimore big muddy binghamton boston buffalo charlottesville chicago cleveland colorado columbus dc hawaii houston hudson mohawk kansas city la madison maine miami michigan milwaukee minneapolis/st. paul new hampshire new jersey new mexico new orleans north carolina north texas nyc oklahoma philadelphia pittsburgh portland richmond rochester rogue valley saint louis san diego san francisco san francisco bay area santa barbara santa cruz, ca sarasota seattle tampa bay tennessee urbana-champaign vermont western mass worcester west asia: armenia beirut israel palestine process: fbi/legal updates mailing lists process & imc docs tech volunteer projects: print radio satellite tv video regions: oceania united states topics: biotech
printable version - email this article - view hidden posts - tags and related articles
link:

View article without comments

INS Detention of Arabs (FLASHPOINTS Interview of Attorney)

by god help us Thursday, Dec. 19, 2002 at 9:59 PM

12 minute report, MP3 format and streaming realaudio


http://la.indymedia.org/uploads/2002/12/flashpoints_ins_arrests_12-19-02.mp3

The only thing that will separate our time from the 1940s internment of Japanese American citizens is an educated and vocal population.  Speak up.  We're on a slippery slope and things are going to likely get worse.

________

Ban Al-Wardi was interviewed on FLASHPOINTS today, discussing the INS arrests of hundreds of Muslims in Southern California.  Attached is an MP3 file of that segment of the program.  Below is the portion of the website write-up from FLASHPOINTS.

FOR BROADBAND USERS, ACCESS MP3 FOR BEST QUALITY

FOR DIAL-UP, CLICK ON AUDIO LINK

Leslie: a massive sweep, INS arrested hundreds of unsuspecting Muslims.. AUDIO LINK now w attorney, Ban Al-Wardi, with the LA chapter of the Arab American Anti-Discrimination Committee.. hundreds of men and boys from Middle Eastern countries were arrested by federal immigration officials in Southern California this week when they complied with orders to appear at INS offices for a special registration program.. Ban saw 14 of her 20 clients arrested when she went with them to the registration.. Ban: these people are not being charged with any crime.. they all have expired visas.. but most of them already have green cards, work permits, travel permits.. being mixed with the general jail population.. hosed down.. forced to sleep on the floor, served pork.. Ban: LA was just the first.. we've been getting reports from all over the country.. Leslie: like the internment of the Japanese during WWII.. Ban: yes, that was declared unconstitutional.. a voluntary program.. if they were terrorists or criminals they would not have gone to the INS.. spreading all over the country.. Ban: although everyone understands the need to protect the nation against terrorist attacks, the government's recent action went too far.. I saw a lot of teenagers coming in getting arrested.. pulled one 16 year old sobbing from his mother's arms.. Ban: all of our fundamental civil rights have been violated by these actions.. I don't know how far this is going to go before people start speaking up.. this is a very dangerous precedent we are setting.. what's to stop Americans from being treated like this when they travel overseas?..

FLASHPOINTS WEBSITE:

http://www.flashpoints.net/

--

"First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist, so I said nothing. Then they came for the Social Democrats, but I was not a Social Democrat, so I did nothing. Then came the trade unionists, but I was not a trade unionist. And then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew, so I did little. Then when they came for me, there was no one left to stand up for me."  -- Pastor Martin Niemöller

Report this post as:

add your comments


every voice counts when the stakes are this high

by x Thursday, Dec. 19, 2002 at 10:32 PM

every voice counts w...
constitution_fire.jpg, image/jpeg, 468x351

x
Report this post as:

add your comments


Simple

by Simple Simon Thursday, Dec. 19, 2002 at 10:42 PM

Spare us the hyperbole, chicken little. There is no similarity between the internment of American citizens because of their ethnicity, and the detainment of Foreign nationals because they are here illegally or under false pretenses. Just becase the INS is suddenly doing the job it should have been doing for years - enforcing immigration laws and verifying the status of visa holders - is no reason to get yourself all wound up. And please, before it starts, no Father Niemoller quotes (they came for the jews...yada yada yada).
Report this post as:

add your comments


Simple Simon

by x Thursday, Dec. 19, 2002 at 10:50 PM

your name serves as sufficient rebuttal, however:

1) the majority of those detained will be shown as legal;

2) mass detentions of hundreds simply to interrogate and, given an inability to review and process in a legal manner should concern you if you have any interest in constitutional rights;

3) only the most ignorant or compromised fail to see the erosion of civil liberties in the US, an erosion that has little to do with our "protection"
Report this post as:

add your comments


Are your serious X?

by Timbuck Friday, Dec. 20, 2002 at 6:37 AM

Sorry X, I don't see where the enforcement of existing immigration laws is a violation of my rights or freedoms.

But then I also don't have the gift you have in knowing that most of the people arrested have no problem whatsovever with their visas. What do you base that guess on?

Let me put your magic hat on and give my prediction: most of the people nabbed will have had some issue with their visa either serious or minor but they will still have one.

Those with perfectly valid visa will turn out to have another error that needed to be corrected - such as not carrying the proper papers as required by law and by the terms they agreed to when they volunteerarily entered this country.

The totally valid visa people will be few.

But, we'll see. In anycase, I think you are nieve to believe only a few of the people arrested have any visa problems.
Report this post as:

add your comments


Beurocratic incompetence at best

by yeah right Friday, Dec. 20, 2002 at 11:26 AM

At best, this situation shows beurocratic incompetence afffecting the freedoms of individuals.
If you have ever dealt witht the INS, you know that they loose a lot of paperwork.
Reports that I have heard say that many people have filed all the right documents and have been verbally informed that they are legit- that all they are waiting for is paperwork.
In this all to common situation, they are informed by the INS that they should not leave the country (US) because they would not be back in- but that they have no reason to leave. All they are waiting for is paperwork that proves that they are legal residents.
It seems like this situation was partially a result of one part of the INS ignoring the mistakes caused by an other part of the INS.

My friend came here from Australia for a Masters degree and was told that as a part of their study they would be given a "year long practical training visa" after they graduated. The visa promised to them would allow them to work in the US for a year from the date they graduated. Stipulated in the process through an official change in ss# once the visa status changes from student to practical training is the fact that they can not start working until they recieve the new visa.

Well, here's what happens. My friend applies for the visa several months before graduation. On graduation, the visa has not come. 4 months pass with my friend still on a quasi/legal student visa-sitting at home and working on projects (they are an artist) not working. They are eating at their life savings. They have jobs lined up but can't work. They repeatedly go down to the INS office in orange county to see whats up. INS their says "your paperwork has been misplaced. "
Finaly, after 4 months later in beurocratic limbo, the visa arrives and the friend is able to work.

From what I have heard, many people detained were facing similar situations.
Report this post as:

add your comments


Not true

by Hyerio Friday, Dec. 20, 2002 at 12:41 PM

This could not have happened to your friend.
This doesn't happen.
This only happens to Moslems and people of color. Your friend must be mistaken. The government targets only these people and gives everyone else a free ride.
Dont' you know anything>
Report this post as:

add your comments


thanks for this interview

by koekoeroe radio leiden holland Sunday, Dec. 22, 2002 at 12:07 PM
koekoeroe@squat.net

thanks for posting this very interesting interview....in holland there is NO MENTIONING AT ALL about this case, I rebroadcast it on anarchist station koekoeroe reedio 97.4 fm thank you.
Report this post as:

add your comments


Local News

Retenes este fin de semana / This weekend's checkpoints (11-12/may/2012) M11 3:49PM

Carlos Montes Case M11 7:38AM

Climate Impact Day in Eagle Rock M10 11:12AM

South Coast Advocate M09 9:08PM

Student confronts police M08 4:36PM

Trial of Carlos Montes to begin May 15. Activists say prosecution is political repression. M07 2:43PM

Sheriff Joe Arpaio with protesters M06 4:18PM

Leaflets and Truncheons at Riverside May Day rally M06 10:59AM

Gustavo Arellano: How Mexican Food Conquered the U.S. M05 8:07PM

In Memoriam: Robert Miles Parker, 1939-2012 M05 7:48PM

Retenes del Fin de Semana 5 de Mayo / Cinco de Mayo Checkpoints 2012 M03 6:56PM

Riverside Celebrates May Day, Police Violence Mars Protest M03 5:26AM

KPFK May Day Coverage Schedule A30 9:28AM

Why We Strike Video #m1gs A30 9:06AM

Nefarious Monkey Business Uncovered A27 5:16PM

May 1 Calendar of Events in LA A26 10:34PM

Hanford CAFO Conditions Creates Mad Cow Prions A26 1:58PM

REMEMBER THE “GREAT CALAMITY” IN ARMENIA , 1915 A25 12:40PM

More Local News...

Other/Breaking News

Veteran Chicano activist's home raided by agencies M16 11:25AM

Death Penalty Challenge M16 9:35AM

What We Want Them to Say, What They Want Them to Do M16 4:40AM

$10,000 Reward for Information on the Photoshop Nazi M16 3:57AM

Forgot Windows Password--How to Reset It? M16 2:34AM

The Nakba: Before and After M16 12:19AM

Hunger Strike Aftermath M16 12:15AM

Calling All Rock 'n' Roll Bands! :) M15 7:03PM

The High Stakes Battles to Save Public Schools M15 6:14PM

Goshutes battle to save their sacred water from SNWA pipeline M15 5:32PM

Brazil: great President, Congress bad. M15 2:23PM

fbi as MAFIA M15 2:22PM

The Loss of Respect of the Economic Elite is Enormous M15 6:42AM

May 21 Deadline to Change Your Party Status to Peace & Freedom or Green to Save Both M15 6:14AM

US/Israeli Special Relationship M15 12:26AM

Hunger Strike Deal M15 12:19AM

Venice Flea'd Boardwalk sells commercial junk, once again, forever ? M14 4:32PM

Tom Morello talks with Bill Moyers May 18 PBS, notice this ! M14 12:56PM

The Time is Now to Support Carlos Montes, Beloved Chicano Activist M14 11:14AM

RICO Suit Filed Against Bet Tzedek Legal Services of Los Angeles M14 9:38AM

Economist criticizes "pathological allegience" to economic models M14 7:08AM

The Left, Labor and Occupy M14 3:18AM

FBI Wants Greater Surveillance Powers M14 12:20AM

Israeli and Palestinian Protests M14 12:16AM

Fabricating Lies To Wage War On Iran M13 7:55PM

BTL:Palestinian Prisoner Hunger Strike Marks Renewed Emphasis on Nonviolent Resistance M13 6:50AM

Waging Total War on Islam M13 12:24AM

Brookings: A Reliable Imperial Tool M12 12:29AM

More Breaking News...
© 2000-2003 Los Angeles Independent Media Center. Unless otherwise stated by the author, all content is free for non-commercial reuse, reprint, and rebroadcast, on the net and elsewhere. Opinions are those of the contributors and are not necessarily endorsed by the Los Angeles Independent Media Center. Running sf-active v0.9.4 Disclaimer | Privacy