NO on Palestinian Films for Oscars Race
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The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences has refused to allow any Palestinian-made films to enter into the Oscars foreign film race because it does not accept Palestine as a "nation". The Palestinian Authority tried to submit Elia Solaiman's film, "Divine Intervention", but was refused, even though the film was highly awarded at the Cannes Film Festival this year.

Below is a response from a Hollywood Producer on this news lightly mentioned in the film industry trade magazine, Variety.
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The Academy Goes to War with the Bush Administration in the Oscar Race

The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences has decided to refuse the Palestinian entry, "Divine Intervention", for the nomination of Best Foreign Film, while accepting submissions from countries like Afghanistan, Bangladesh, and Chad.
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This decision has been expedited under the false pretext that the Academy doesn't recognize Palestine as a nation. It would be interesting to read the definition of "nation" as seen by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.

What the Academy knows and therefore reminds everybody, is that the government of each nation is allowed to submit one film to represent its country. This more or less defines the right for a film to be presented.
Therefore, as long as the Palestinian government had agreed to submit "Divine Intervention" by Elie Souleimane, the Academy had no right to refuse
to include it in the selection, unless the Academy, sitting atop its unchallenged power and authority doesn't recognize the Palestinian government. That would be unfortunate.

Even the Bush administration, although they would prefer that such government doesn't exist, was able to communicate and negotiate with Palestine, thus recognizing its existence. If Palestine doesn't exist in the movie world, why then was the same "Divine Intervention" selected as a Palestinian entry at the Cannes Film Festival this year? I'm sure that by
now, Palestinian filmmakers - and there are a few, very talented people -wonder what nationality they are. Israeli? How ironic!

As we very well know, the Israeli government would never choose to send to Hollywood, a Palestinian film to represent its country. So for the Academy, it's probable that Palestinian films simply cannot be submitted, denying in a way, their right to exist.

Sounds familiar? Isn't it in the Constitution of the Academy, or at least in its principles, to promote art without any distinction of race, religion or politics? Well, sometimes, the Bush administration would use the phrase "in times of war."

Now that art has to be put to the service of politics, it seems to me that the Academy and the entire Hollywood film industry has lost yet another piece of its credibility.
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By Phil Ed for Au-Cinema.com
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You may write/contact the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences at:
>>>Academy Foundation
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>>>Phone: 310-247-3000
>>>Fax: 310-859-9351
>>>www.oscars.org
>>>Email: ampas@oscars.org

Guess what, guys! Palestine ISN'T a country! I'd like to thank the academy...

And how can Hollywood lose any MORE credibility with all the has been jackasses signing the "You Go, Saddam" petition? Which way do you want it, anyway?

>> the "You Go, Saddam" petition


can you show us a petition that says that?


I suspect you made it up.

Sherlock, you've seen right through me.
Mike, Babs, and Capt. Willard are too cagey to put "You Go, Saddam" on their petition. Instead it says "Win without War," or "For the Children" or some damn thing. The net effect is the same- Saddam gets a free hand to develop his WMD program, subsidize terrorists, and only have to worry about the ferocious U.N. inspectors. When they actually FIND something, they'll no doubt send a sternly written note, or maybe a letter to the Times. Oh, my valve!

I have a humble question. If Iraq is such a threat, why are not
the neighboring countries not willing to aid the U.S. in their
war against this ‘very dangerous’ country with it’s alleged
WMD?

"If Iraq is such a threat, why are not the neighboring countries not willing to aid the US ..."

Ok, first let me point out that that sentence is a double-negative. Minus 2 points off for that.

Now let me answer with an answer and get my minus 2 points.

When was the last time any of those surrounding countries were willing to involve themselves in war for any other reason except for land or religion?

Fascists thought that jews didn't exist in the late thirties. That's how 6millions of them died. Now the same type of inhumane mind claims that millions of Palestinians don't exist. How ironic!

I am so ashamed of that double negative. My heart however, lusts for life; therefor I shall wait for death in its own time to take me kicking biting and slashing out against it until it finally over powers my waning last shreds of endurance. Allow me to weep alone in my disgrace for a moment...
later...
Ahh, my eyes now dry, I shall strive to meet the standards of perfection your glowing example has set, so far beyond and above myself in the infinite heavens, where you reside, of my faltering reach. I thank you for the honor of your correction upon this unworthy creature of mere bone and flesh.
Not only to you, but to all creatures in the cosmic all, I BEG forgiveness.
Still, none of the surrounding countries ( with the exception of our client state of Israel ) is in favor of supporting a war against that
crushed and suffering people. Our government put Saddam into power, supported him during the many years of his terror and now finds him inconveniently in the way of the resources we covet.
This is pure crystalized hypocrisy.

palestine might not be a "nation", but "divine intervention" is a foreign film... who cares if the people who made it are or are not considered "stateless" or "refugees", the film industry should not just take films from people with a nation and should show quality films...
quality, wooops we are talking about hollywood.

The AMP should hang its' collective head in shame. What a bunch of losers! They wouldn't know talent if it smacked them in the ass! Well done to Hollywood's actors for coming out against the war. How about a 'Peace Petition' instead of a 'Go Saddam' one, hekkus? What's the matter, hekkus? Scared of a little peace?

check valve - best check yourself and check your history. 1991 ring a bell? Coalition against Saddam in the First (and hopefully LAST!) Gulf War? Sound familiar? Your bad-mouthing of the countries neighboring Iraq really is unwarranted. They've shown they're dedicated to peace. Has the US or Israel?

Of course I'm scared of peace. Isn't it supposed to be good for children and other living things? That's why the war has to be fought. So that Saddam won't be left alone to perfect his WMD. Do you have any doubt he would deliver anything he could to our country, if only he could?
As for the surrounding countries, that's a real howler. Every one of them is a dictatorship of one form or another (religious or plain old thugocracy.) Do you suppose THEY are going to oppose Saddam? They would like to grow up to be him.
And yes, I remember the first Gulf War. Would you prefer it hadn't been fought? By now S.H. would undoubtedly be in control of Saudi Arabia as well. How would that suit you?

The Zionist control over the world media made them able to deny any Palestinian-made films to enter the Oscars. Even if the film was awarded at the Cannes Film Festival this year. They don’t want you to know the truth of what is happening to the Palestinians.

Now, do you really think 6 million (All Jewish) were killed in the holocaust? Latest independent figure says it is less than 100,000.

SEARCH FOR THE TRUTH. You have the Internet now; they don’t have full control on it. You can find the truth for yourself.

hekkus asks how S.H. being in control of Saudi Arabia would suit me. The answer is maybe very well. When the Iraqi army invaded Kuwait, the majority of the people living there were pleased to be released from a regime with a worse reputation for human rights than Iraq's. It is probable that the majority of Saudis would feel the same.

However the question hekkus asks is meaningless. The status of Kuwait was finalised by Britain in the 1960s and is yet another example of colonial manipulation whereby the main port and oilfield of Southern Iraq were given to a local sheik in return for oil agrements. (Look at the map to see the artificial nature of the borders in that area.) That Iraq should wish to reclaim this area is understandable, tho one might disagree with the effectiveness of their methods.

There is no evidence or reason to suppose that Iraq has any further plans for expansion - unlike the USA which has been directly involved with approx 25 military invasions all over the world during my lifetime in order to maintain or expand its economic empire.

Given a list of miltary spending by different countries, the USA spends as much as the next 25 countries on the list combined. If America is worried about the threat from Iraq, then how do u think the rest of the world feels about the America - especially when it's the only country openly threatening to use nuclear weapons.

To quote from a recent speech by Harold Pinter (a foreign playwright) - "...the US administration is now a bloodthirsty wild animal. Bombs are its only vocabulary."

"Now, do you really think 6 million (All Jewish) were killed in the holocaust?"

No, I don't. 14 million were killed, of which 6 million were Jewish.

Does it matter if the surrounding countries support us against Saddam Hussein? Do you know how he raised his two son? He made them watch the torture of political prisoners to make them into men strong enough to do the same thing when they gain power. He is evil and does so many evil things to his people. Because we love humanity we must stop this injustice. This whole situation reminds me so much of Hitler and the Nazis; it's sickening. No one wanted war, so no one stood up to Hitler until he attacked. Had people stood up to him when they saw him violating treaty agreements, so many lives could have been spared. Saddam poses the same kind of threat. Action now will cost lives, but action later will cost more lives. Look at history and learn from it!

Salvadoran Death Squads kill 4 Nuns, a bunch of Priests and hundreds of noncombatant civilians. Their Alma Mater? The School of the America's U.S.A..

Guatemala nationalizes Banana Plantations - who does the Rockefeller Family turn to to recover their holdings and set up a new "friendly" government. Why The USMC.

Salvado Allende is elected President of Chile. However, he is an evil Leftist. So, what to do. Have the C.I.A. help Augusto Pinochet perform a Military Coup and then kill thousands of people who objected.

The U.S. wants a stable "friendly" government in Iran so what do they do? Support a Coup that puts the Shah of Iran in power. And if you don't think the Shah's Secret Police were every bit as brutal as Saddam you are as ignorant as your post would imply.

Who was America's "good friend" during the 80's during his War with Iran and while he was committing all the abuses you mention? Three guesses. HINT: SADDAM HUSSEIN.

Madam, have your ears popped yet today?

"I have a humble question. If Iraq is such a threat, why are not
the neighboring countries not willing to aid the U.S. in their
war against this ‘very dangerous’ country with it’s alleged
WMD?"


Please tell me you didn't actually say this. I need to believe that even YOU aren't that fucking stupid and completely ignorant of current events. So, it was a mistake right?

"Palestine" is not and never has been a country. I would hope that it didn't take "oscar" for christ's sake, for you to fiqure that out.
Here are the INDISPUTABLE FACTS. If you want to try and deny them, you are admitting to either being an idiot or a liar.

A. From 1948 until 1967 the Gaza strip was part of Egypt. No one referred to Egypt as "occupying" "palestine".

B. From 1948 until 1967 the West Bank was part of Jordan. No one accused Jordan of occupying "palestine"

C. When Egypt, Jordan and Syria initiated and lost the 6 day war in 1967, these areas and more, rightfully became part of Isreal. isreal eventually returned a huge amount of territory to Egypt.

There is no "palestine". There is no "palestinian". All this land is rightfully Isreal's because when a group of people start a war and lose they sometimes lose land. Eventually there will be a state of "palestine" I supect but it doesn't exist yet. Even the PLO has admitted the need for a fabrication of "palestine". In an interview with the Dutch newspaper "Trau" (March 31, 1977), PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein said, "The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct 'Palestinian people' to oppose Zionism.

So spare me the indignation. Besides, what's all the surprise about? If Hollywood and the media truly are Zionist run as you all seem to beleive, than why is it the least bit surprising that they may not want to honor a filmaker representing a group of people that historically has tried to exterminate all Jews.

I can't believe you dirty hippies actually support these hate monger racist Arabs with their filthy dark skin and their hairy backs. Where is your tolerance?

With the intellect of a small humming bird, we should all rejoice that you can even type, you safety helmet wearing drool fest. That said, please have a devastating heart attack you filthy homophobe.

Is it a possibility that maybe the movie just sucks and that's why the academy overlooked it?

Jay, you have the brain of a really smart pigeon. Please help natural selection along by strolling into your garage and hanging yourself.

Plestine is either a country and the palestinians are engaged in a border dispute with israel,
or they are being occupied and they are not a country. If you protest the academy's ruling you are opposing the legitimacy of their current argument.

although i'm incredibly pro-palestinian I do admit that Fresca has a very logical argument.

however, its a petty and a shame that politics have to play a part in a simple movie awards ceremony
naturally, one cannot expect any less from such an organization. kudos to those responsible at the Cannes film festival for not letting politics get into the way of a simple movie festival.

to those at Ampas, come on people... I mean seriously.

I am both pro palistinian and very anti Jew. Hitler was actually right... Just look what they have become!