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INDYMEDIA IDIOTS WAKE UP: VENEZUELAN COUP THREAT

by wake the fuck up Tuesday, Dec. 10, 2002 at 8:26 PM

Why the fuck isn't Indymedia covering a possible imminent coup in Venezuela?

Why the hell aren't you Indymedia idiots covering the possible coup in Venezuela? Even Hugo Chavez himself has warned about an imminent coup, yet Indymedia jackasses continue to ignore the issue.

Even a leading mouthpiece of the American "free press" such as the Washington Post has been desperately hoping and calling for American intervention in Venezuela--all to "prevent instability" of course.

http://dc.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=40869&group=webcast

And here is a post on the Indymedia newswire warning about an imminent coup attempt tonight (12-9-02). At the very least, it deserves investigation.
http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=222059&group=webcast

It is Indymedia 'activists' that are forever running their mouth about promoting "grassroots democracy" yet you ignore the issue when grassroots democracy is currently being threatened in Venezuela by the capitalist oligarchy--and their American backers.

I wonder why Indymedia is ignoring this issue. Is it because you are afraid to admit that the Bush Regime and America are behind this obvious destabilization campaign--just as they had a hand in the original coup attempt in April 2002. History is repeating itself, and the coup plotters are getting more desperate. The strikes, protests, and now made to order shootings all designed to create instability and justify a violent and antidemocratic regime change.

Are you ignoring Venezuela because you have been distracted by the impending American attack on Iraq? In case you hadn't figured out yet, American formented coups/regime changes over the entire world are all part of a broader militaristic program. These coup attempts are motivated by a desire to expand the power of the American World Empire in general and colonize/steal oil resources in particular.

If you in Indymedia wait until the coup in Venezuela happens, it will be too damn late. Is that what you want?

Get the word out about a Coup Danger in Venezuela now, before it is too late.

http://www.narconews.com/Issue26/article556.html

http://www.narconews.com/Issue26/article555.html



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you are the media

by x Tuesday, Dec. 10, 2002 at 10:58 PM

what the hell are you bitching about? You want something up, post it.
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WAKE UP

by Raoul Wednesday, Dec. 11, 2002 at 4:37 AM
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dear wake the fuck up,

wake the fuck up! Indy is not a 'you'. You are indymedia. And it seems this is what you chose to make of it.

Please censor your namecalling crap and post interesting things. I, for one, am curious to read an article about Venezuala that you hopefully will write and post here (or another indy site).

greetz from belgium.
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who's buying my ticket?

by Jesse Wednesday, Dec. 11, 2002 at 2:32 PM

I am an independant journalist who tries to contribute what i can when i can as often as i can, and would be more than willing to go down to write a story about what's going on down there. Do some interviews and bring back some video of the action etc. Are you paying for the plane ticket and hotel fares? If so I would be very interested in getting further information so I could go down and cover this story of obvious importance.

An alternative is to do it yourself like the person before me suggested. Even if you dont have a video or still camera to take pictures you can still do alot with just immagination and words.

In the meantime, I'll keep covering what I can where I can, and hope that you do the same. Good luck!

Jesse

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by lynx-11 Thursday, Dec. 12, 2002 at 6:23 PM

update

IMC
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explain your position

by Sheepdog Thursday, Dec. 12, 2002 at 7:36 PM

To the Mr. Admirer:
In which way has the democracticly elected
leader of Venezuela failed his people?
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And that explains...

by Sheepdog Thursday, Dec. 12, 2002 at 9:29 PM

...what?
Do you know what you are talking about?
A child would say 'because'; you say 'lefty' Does that
mean left handed? Left behind? Left alone?
As a REAL conservative, I am curious as to what you are
trying to say. Quality, not quantity of dialogue is the determining factor here. Please try again.
How has the democratically elected leader of Venezuela
failed his people?
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a better place is just a click away

by counterfreep Friday, Dec. 13, 2002 at 12:39 AM

"Indymedia is a collective of independent media organizations and hundreds of journalists offering grassroots, non-corporate coverage. Indymedia is a democratic media outlet for the creation of radical, accurate, and passionate tellings of truth...."


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How did the IMC project get started?

Indymedia is the collective effort of hundreds of independent media makers from around the world who are dedicated to providing a forum for independent reporting about important social and political issues. Several hundred media activists, many of whom have been working for years to develop an active independent media through their own organizations, came together in late November, 1999 in Seattle to create an Independent Media Center to cover protests against the World Trade Organization. The Seattle IMC provided coverage of the WTO through both a printed publication called “The Blind Spot” and the first IMC web site. The web site received almost 1.5 million hits during the WTO protests. In February of 2000 a small IMC formed in Boston to cover the Biodevestation Convergence, and a larger one came together in Washington D.C. to cover the A16 protests against the World Bank and International Monetary Fund. After that request from local groups interested in forming their own IMCs started to pour in. There are now over fifty local Independent media centers around the world and more are on the way.


http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/FrequentlyAskedQuestionEn


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Why They Hate Us v5.01

by counterfreep Friday, Dec. 13, 2002 at 12:42 AM

Why They Hate Us v5....
freepers.jpg, image/jpeg, 646x486

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Unconfirmed sources

by Sheepdog Friday, Dec. 13, 2002 at 6:48 AM

And from whom are these quotes garnished?
Please try Again.
In what way has the democraticly elected leader of
Venezuela failed his people?
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More unconfirmed sources

by Sheepdog Friday, Dec. 13, 2002 at 7:09 AM

It would be informative if the quotes listed
could be traced in order to analyze the interests
involved. Please try again.
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quotes

by Marc Friday, Dec. 13, 2002 at 9:44 AM

FYI - you can find the following quote here: http://u2log.com/archive/001905.shtml
And here it is in its full context: "Here in Venezuela, a f***ing country where anything works, the 2CD Best Of set (FOR NOW) will hit stores as early as this Friday "possibly", "maybe". Could you believe that the Canadian imports of Electrical Storm cost here around $14 US?"
JLAS spoke on November 5, 2002 11:11 PM

"hey- if you don't like it, don't buy it. End of story."
kakvox spoke on November 5, 2002 11:11 PM

"JLAS if u dontk like Venezuela you should be off to some other country.,.,.,"
22222 spoke on November 5, 2002 11:17 PM

"Matt you are right. Infact life is a complete bastard. Could somebody pass the Prozac please?"
Jim spoke on November 5, 2002 11:27 PM

"Well 22222, JLAS is right. I'm from Venezuela and I won't go out from here and I'm going to tell you why. Besides Hugo Chavez (our hated President-Dictator-Fidel Castro alike ruler), this country would be a paradise. Everything that goes wrong here is because of Hugo Chavez. I love my country. And many people love U2 here."
I hate Chavez spoke on November 5, 2002 11:32 PM

Quote from a Venezuelan citizen
by Bush Admirer • Thursday December 12, 2002 Thut 07:03 AM

"I'm from Venezuela and I won't go out from here and I'm going to tell you why. Besides Hugo Chavez (our hated President-Dictator-Fidel Castro alike ruler), this country would be a paradise. Everything that goes wrong here is because of Hugo Chavez. I love my country."

More unconfirmed sources
by Sheepdog • Thursday December 12, 2002 Thut 07:09 AM

"It would be informative if the quotes listed
could be traced in order to analyze the interests
involved. Please try again."


- I think if we are going to engage in spirited debate and quote people (especially edited, out of context, and unattributed), we should be compelled to include a citation or a reference. This is from a chat room in regards to reaction of the upcoming U2 CD release. This doesn't diminish the author's intent (if indeed "I hate Chavez" is actually a bona fide Venezualan - which we could MAYBE find out if we sweet talked the owner of the listed site - but unlikely), but it should be taken in its proper context and for certain should be referenced.
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And the examples of your statments...

by Sheepdog Friday, Dec. 13, 2002 at 9:51 AM

Provide examples of your ascertations, if you would be so kind. To my knowledge the 20 year contract to the U.S.
of an oil supply would tend to discredit your statements.
Please site examples of these 'cronies'.
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by lynx-11 Friday, Dec. 13, 2002 at 7:32 PM

venezuela watch

el libertario

los anarquistas frente al chavismo

narconews
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More Right Wing Bullsh*t

by Bush Hater Monday, Dec. 16, 2002 at 12:42 AM

The best 'argument' that Bush Licker can come up with is to cite a single e-mail quotation from some "authentic" Venezuelan who dislikes Chavez.

Never mind the validity of this authentic Venzuelan's identity, the truth is that the people who hate Chavez are overwhelming the Rich White and Middle Classes (you know the type who have access to a computer in Venezuela to begin with)--kinda of like Bush Admirer's type of people.

Unfortunately for you Bush Admirer, the vast majority of people in Venezuela are NOT White, NOT Rich, and NOT Middle Class. This Black and Brown Majority is poor and supports Chavez overwhemlingly.
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OneEyedMan

by KPC Wednesday, Dec. 18, 2002 at 12:11 AM

BushBlower, your posts are about as informative as some idiot scratching his ass then smelling his finger and tellin' us about it...

...we don't need the details to know your ass stinks...

"Everything is Hugo Chavez's fault..including the boil on my ass"...such profundity...from a big, smart, successful guy like you...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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...............

by ................ Wednesday, Dec. 18, 2002 at 2:31 AM

Yah .. he posted that it was a few hundred elsewhere, someone laughed at him, now he dragged up the same story and substituted 'million' with Find and Replace ..... notice he provides no link for that first story ....
Kinda funny for a guy who is always spewing about his objectivity ....
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Hmm

by Sheepdog Wednesday, Dec. 18, 2002 at 3:01 AM

In my analysis of the link so politely furnished by the Bush Admirer.
My humble reduction is the consideration that it was the previous SAP policies ( big surprise ) which brought Chevez into power by the majority of the people in a series of fair elections. Furthermore this government is still holding together dispite the bribery, violence and economic hostilities directed against it. For a military officer; paratroops yet, the guy sounds like a rare gem.
An Officer that cares for his people. I saw a very few of them when I served. Their people loved them and would put up quite a fight if they thought their leader ( real leadership ) and friend asked them to.
The middle class is being attacked, more so than the lower class, and this is the direct result of upper class funded strikes and meddling. This together with the near total media ( allowed to broadcast 24/7 ) on an anti Chevez theme...
Big bucks running another show, the CIA waiting in the wings with money and weapons etc. I’m sure that this man wont make the same mistakes Alliende made. I sure hope those people down there don;t see another national hope crushed by the CIA.
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Venezuelan?

by suhely Wednesday, Dec. 18, 2002 at 1:27 PM

Mr Bush Admirador....you should to move to the White House...TONTO...ALIENADO....
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OneEyedMan

by KPC Thursday, Dec. 19, 2002 at 1:02 AM

BushBlower: "I like GW Bush. He's a stand-up guy. When he says something you can take it to the bank knowing that he means it and that he's sincere."

If you believe this...IF YOU ACTUALLY THINK THIS IS EVEN REMOTELY TRUE..

...then you are a hopeless fuckin' idiot...

...nevermind, you a hopeless fuckin' idiot no matter what you believe...
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..........

by .......... Thursday, Dec. 19, 2002 at 4:11 AM

I'm sure the shareholders in Enron etc felt the effects of his sincerity.
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Don't look at the issues!

by Sheepdog Thursday, Dec. 19, 2002 at 5:24 AM

Poor apoligists; they do go on friends, they
do it because it’s a living. Much malox involved.
Or it could be something else. I know!
It’s part of the clever LA IMC tactic to show
the repetitive senile circular ‘thought’ involved in the guardians of the status quo.
Clever bastards, with a wheelbarrow load of
dirty tricks, now I can’t put anything past
them.
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Chavismo rural, Anarquismo real y natural

by Luis Sunday, Nov. 16, 2003 at 4:56 AM

El anarco-chavismo es real, existe, se arrastra y crece desde lo mas profundo de los sectores populares. Los circulos BOLIVARIANOS, construimos el tejido social y vivimos la anarquia, no hablamos de ella, ni nos autoproclamamos unicos y exclusivos exponentes de la misma. No somos eruditos anarquistas de salon,instruidos anarco-apaticos que desde sus computadoras clase media no comprenden lo que pasa en los barrios y solo admiran sus ombligos sin reconocer lo que es autentico y genuino. Nosotros somos consecuentes con nuestros ideales y luchas, no somos conformistas, sino que defendemos nuestras conquistas. VIVA LA REVOLUCION BOLIVARIANA, VIVA LA ANARQUIA, CHAVEZ SOMOS TODOS!!!


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