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The Clearest Evidence Of Complicity In the 9/11 Attacks.

by Lloyd Hart Monday, Dec. 02, 2002 at 1:19 PM
dadapop@dadapop.com

They are going to kill us all anyway, so why not stand and fight now.

The Clearest Evidence Of Complicity In the 9/11 Attacks.

Lloyd Hart

The clearest evidence of complicity in a conspiracy is to be found in the means that are used to cover up the conspiracy itself. Just as when Arlen Specter came up with the magic bullet theory which was in 1987 tossed unanimously into the garbage can by the international symposium on forensic medicine, the Bush Regime is admitting it's complicity by appointing Henry Kissinger to co-chair the 9/11 commission.

When Arlen Specter did his dirty deed for the Warren Commission it was done to prevent any investigation by any official body into a wider conspiracy and close the book on what was so obviously a US military sponsored coup. Of course fascists are sloppy and no one to this day who wishes to be taken seriously can hold up the single gunman and magic bullet theories as a set of facts. Henry Kissinger did such a good job of proven stone face lying all through the Nixon and Ford Regimes that he is the obvious pick by fellow liars to continue his job of twisting and out right suppressing of the truth. And of course the corporate media is rolling right over because who wants a tax audit or for that matter SEC charges brought against your cash cow. And in fact people like Steve Case who sits atop the AOL/Time/Warner/Turner empire that might as well be the Bush Regime's official propaganda machine, is as right wing and as crazy as George Bush himself. And if any liberals attempt to hold up former Senator Mitchell as adding some kind of balance to the 9/11 commission I would like to remind people that Mitchell is the one Senate leader that allowed the Iran/Contra and S + L scandals to slip right through his fingers.

But the most glaring omission from all the media coverage in the US that proves across the board complicity from the White House, through Congress, through the Corporate Media, is the lack of focus on America's best ever terrorist hunter John O'Neill who resigned from the FBI in protest in the summer of 2001 because the Bush regime would not allow the investigation of the Taliban, Osama bin Laden and the Al Queda to go forward while Bush and his sleazy oil pals were negotiating a pipeline deal with the Taliban. This great American hero died attempting to save the lives of former fellow FBI agent's and WTC workers in tower two of the World Trade Center on September 11th, 2001, is the clearest evidence to date that Bush was involved in the 9/11 Attacks. John O'Neill's story is so compelling and so powerful it screams to be told, but what do we get, a sloppier coverup than the one perpetrated by the Warren Commission.

The Magic Bullet theory in the 9/11 mess is the idea provoked by the first failure in thirty years of the Air Guard's ability to defend US air space, that the Air guard failed their only purpose in life because they were all out drinking the night before and couldn't get out of bed in time to follow orders. The only way the Air Defense System could have failed is if every Air Guard and Air force Pilot stationed in the US were drunk and stoned to the point that they could not hear the alert system screaming so loud it could wake common sense from its grave deep inside the Warren Commission report.

The Single Gunman theory within the 9/11 conspiracy is that Osama bin laden planned all by his little lonesome the penetration of US air space using US air liners as weapons. The fact is the reason this had never been attempted in the past is because all terrorist researchers of holes in the US Air Defense System would have discovered that once you turn a scheduled flight off course from the filed flight plan without air traffic control permission the US Air Defense System goes into automatic response, scrambling F-16s to wing tip to wing tip interception of said violators of US air space to await further orders. Any commercial airline pilot knows this and so does the Bush Regime. In fact, on Tuesday, October 26, 1999 at 6:43 p.m. the US Air Defense System worked perfectly when famous golfer Paine Stewart's lear jet got F-16s within ten minutes of going off course. So what the hell happened on September 11th. 2001 is the smoking question. Four Air liners went off course at more or less the same time packed full of important people and all the Air Guard Pilots in the US were drunk and stoned?

An even more interesting twist to the tale is the rolling over of the Icons of the enlightened left. Everyone from the Nation to Z magazine have attacked the journalists attempting to investigate this Hitler style scam. Granted that some of the journalists have agendas attached to easy to crumble theories that this is all about containment of Russia as the writer Israel proposed. But just like the book Forbidden Truth by Brisard and Dasque the facts are good, the conclusions they draw are a bit of a stretch.

Being a Canadian living in the US I don't suffer from the uniquely American political fatalism. Like my fellow Canadians that took the brunt of the German counter attack on D-Day so that the British and American forces could flank effectively, which the Americans failed at miserably allowing the Germans to retreat, I don't fear death like Americans do. Or for that matter worry about losing my station in life. I am more concerned about the health and welfare of the whole of this planet. But obviously Americans are cowards on both sides of the political fence. These so called leaders on the left in America think that runaway to fight another day will work this time but in fact this policy has merely just encouraged the Fascists. We on the left in America must stop this strategy of fighting the battles that we think we can win as Albert and Sholom at Z magazine proposed when they attacked the journalists Ruppert and Israel on their 9/11 work this last summer. We must take on the very heart of the present fascist gamble which is to sew the fear in the hearts of the spoiled American with 9/11 style attacks to reap the goal of global US primacy through unbridled US Military Fascism.

I have spent my entire life financially and politically supporting the entire left wing from liberals to anarchists and will continue to do so, but for fuck sakes what evidence will it take to get all of us to unite on the facts surrounding 9/11. Black males are sent to their deaths in the American justice system by juries that have no factual material what so ever to draw a conviction. We have the facts jack but no courage. Remember the mantra of the ANC, "If they kill me I will be one more body on the pile that will eventually bury them!" They are going to kill us all anyway, so why not stand and fight now.
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Librarian

by Cathy Bushwhacked Saturday, Jun. 21, 2003 at 8:57 AM

Kennedy was not killed by a lone gunman, nor was his brother Robert, nor was King. The same forces in this country, this land where the law only fuctions where the military oil-industrial complex permits it, killed the 3000 Americans in New York City. For them a small price to pay for the power that they thereby obtained. Bush is merely their retarded puppet. This is all crystal clear for anyone who has two eyes and two ears.
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Speaking as a paid shill,

by daveman Saturday, Jun. 21, 2003 at 4:21 PM

Booga booga.
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uh...

by fresca Saturday, Jun. 21, 2003 at 4:39 PM

"This is all crystal clear for anyone who has two eyes and two ears."

Then how do you acount for the BILLIONS of two-eyed and two-eared people on earth who simply think your take on 9-11 is simply lunacy?
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This is how.

by daveman Saturday, Jun. 21, 2003 at 4:41 PM

"I'm right and billions of people are wrong!"

That's how she does it.
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Kinda like that fruitcake...

by Diogenes Saturday, Jun. 21, 2003 at 6:26 PM

...Galileo Gallei - eh davie?

Maybe Alfred Wegner?

Because a lot of people believe something does not make it true.

Everybody "knew" that the sinking of the Maine was the result of a Spanish attack. Didn't they?

2/3 of the people of the 13 Colonies DID NOT want to declare independence from England. Of the 1/3 who did perhaps a hundred men were the prime movers - maybe less.

The volume of evidence contradicting the "Official Conspiracy Theory" is quite large.

There are many unanswered questions. You can make light of them all you wish - they are not going away and smart assed remarks do not answer the questions. They are just a way to avoid looking and confronting.

The Bush Junta has attempted to block every serious investigation into the events of 911. Why? Got something to hide?

So, davie - "there is none so blind as he who will not see".
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You're comparing Mary to...

by daveman Saturday, Jun. 21, 2003 at 6:53 PM

...Gallileo?

Wow. I have an active and fertile imagination, but even I can't get my head around that one.

Actually, you're right. A majority of people believing something does not make it right. Such as the entire world being against the war, the Palestinians needing a homeland, and AMerica being the greatest threat on the planet. All popular ideas, all stupid as snot.

"there is none so blind as he who will not see".

Yes there is...there is none so blind as he who ignores what's there in favor of what's not.

Got Conspiracy Theory?
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The floor is flooding

by Sheepdog Saturday, Jun. 21, 2003 at 7:01 PM

the roof is burning and daveman is telling us how funny it all is.
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No...

by daveman Saturday, Jun. 21, 2003 at 7:23 PM

...I'm telling you how funny YOU are.
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Gosh davie you're a real riot.

by Diogenes Saturday, Jun. 21, 2003 at 7:34 PM

How many dead children does it take to fill your Gas Tank?

How many times can you avoid the actual issues involved?

How do you live with yourself?

BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED.

And the filth of the nation defend the lies, the deaths, the misery and the destruction.

Quite a great calling you got there davie baby.
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actually

by fresca Sunday, Jun. 22, 2003 at 4:00 AM

"The volume of evidence contradicting the "Official Conspiracy Theory" is quite large."

There is NO evidence. There is ALOT of conjecture and theory.

Show some evidence FOR ONCE that isn't simple connect the dots conjecture and we can all talk.
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Dio

by daveman Sunday, Jun. 22, 2003 at 4:13 AM

I'm with fresca:

"Show some evidence FOR ONCE that isn't simple connect the dots conjecture and we can all talk."

Stop quoting vanity/paranoia sources such as whatreallyhappened and rense, and come up with something rational, and then we can have a dialog.

But as long as you consider any wacked-out nutjob the definitive source simply becuase it supports your hate-Bush-for-any-reason agenda , you're gonna keep on getting dismissed.

And get some new lines; the old ones are getting boring. Running out of imagination, Dio?
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The evidence that the official...

by Diogenes Sunday, Jun. 22, 2003 at 5:49 AM

..."Conspiracy Theory" offers an inadequate explanation for the observed data has crossed this board many times. It is readily available at a number of Web Sites. One need only take off their blinders and look.

I know that I can count on you two not to so there is little point in running it by you again. I am not into acts of absolute futility. Either you will choose to see or you will not - I do believe in self determination.

You have your mind made up and don't want to be confused with the facts. Until such time as you are willing to look objectively at the mountains of available data there is no point in confronting you with it other than the sad amusement I derive from watching you guys try to avoid the obvious conclusions.

All I can conclude is that you are either unable or unwilling to see.

My personal feelings toward Bush are irrelevant when it comes to sorting through the data.

For the record I think he is a Scumbag Deserter Drug Addict with a near total lack of conscience, with all the warmth and humanity of a Joseph Stalin. He is a would be tyrant who has shown a total disregard for the U.S. Constitution and is interested only in the aggrandizement of himself and his cronies, and is an absolute incompetent to boot. By comparison he makes Clinton, whom I despise, look to be a good President.
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P.S.

by Diogenes Sunday, Jun. 22, 2003 at 5:53 AM

BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED. It really is that simple.

Whether you like it or not you are going to continue to see that line. Why does it make you so uncomfortable?

Is there something you would rather not look at?
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Bush is a punk ass dictator.

by Mary Sunday, Jun. 22, 2003 at 5:57 AM

Impeach the asshole.
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Diogenes

by Ryan Sunday, Jun. 22, 2003 at 10:53 AM

Right on!!

The amount of evidence showing that Bush planned and carried out 9/11 is overwhelming. From the remote controls found that controlled the planes that hit the World Trade Center and the control devises found at the crash sites, to the detonators found at Ground-Zero, to the eyewitnesses who testified they saw a missle hit the Pentagon and who were later "mysteriously" missing or found murdered, to NORAD never responding, to the individuals who claimed they received calls from "loved ones" on board the planes who later testified they were coerced into making false statements. All these and so much more are clearly documented on any number of sites on the internet for those who want to learn the truth for themselves.

Just the other day, a comrade played me tapes that had been smuggled out of Fuhuer Bush and his fellow Nazis patting themselves on the backs for having carried out a "job well done". Anytime someone has tried to post these tapes on the internet, the site is immediately crashed and contents of the tapes are removed.

Pay no attention to these shills. They are only doing what their fascist controlled educators told them they should do. They are afraid of the truth.

BUSH LIED. PEOPLE DIED. It really is that simple.
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Right on, Ryan

by Ted Sunday, Jun. 22, 2003 at 11:26 AM

I heard those tapes too. Did you see the video of the secret meeting where Cheney and Osama were negotiating the alleged "Al Queda involvement" ? Fascinating stuff. It appears that Cheney had to agree to siphon off some Iraqi oil revenues to Osama in exchange for Osama saying he was involved.

Then a cruise missle hit the ISP that hosted the video. Bummer.
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Bingo

by Cheney Sunday, Jun. 22, 2003 at 12:05 PM

"Maybe" the invasion of Iraq is a secret plot to pay off bin ladin all the oil we owe him.
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You people figured it out. Damn!

by Karl Rove Sunday, Jun. 22, 2003 at 1:24 PM

We managed to fool the world's greatest investigative journalists, foreign governments, the United Nations, people in our own government, and American citizens.

Then I found out that you people here at Indymedia figured out the entire plot. Damn! You people are so darned smart. Wow. I still can't believe it.
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New tactics from the shills...

by Diogenes Sunday, Jun. 22, 2003 at 2:44 PM

...they are demonstrating their level of intelligence. Perhaps it's ploy to lull us to sleep?
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New Slogan

by brigg Sunday, Jun. 22, 2003 at 4:38 PM

PROTESTERS GET HIGH - STARVING CHILDREN DIE - It is that simple.
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well, you asked

by fresca Sunday, Jun. 22, 2003 at 4:38 PM

"BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED. It really is that simple.

Whether you like it or not you are going to continue to see that line. Why does it make you so uncomfortable?

Is there something you would rather not look at?
"

Honestly, it sorta gives me the creeps. Here's why.

It's creepy to think taht somewhere out there there is some deluded lonely nut who thinks he's somehow stumbled upon some new catch phrase that sums up a hugely complicated issue. What's more it's based on belief in all sorts of paranoid conspiracy theories involving secret cabals, evil Jews and ongoing battles against paid "shills" and "Psyoperatives".

This guy keeps posting this pahrase proudly and even his own flock ignores him to say nothing of those who obviously know better. But, down there in his mother's basement, this middle aged crazy guy keeps at it, oblivious.

so, yeah, it sorta upsets me.

It's just so silly and sad.
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murderous left

by SmashTheLeft Sunday, Jun. 22, 2003 at 5:02 PM

PROTESTERS GET HIGH - STARVING CHILDREN DIE - It is that simple.
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Even if I were a Leftist...

by Diogenes Sunday, Jun. 22, 2003 at 5:08 PM

...the only thing offensive in your post is your stupidity.

BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED. It really is that simple.

A war sold on lies, by liars, defended by scum.
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Even if I were a Leftist...

by STL Sunday, Jun. 22, 2003 at 5:19 PM

...the only thing offensive in your post is your utter stupidity.

PROTESTERS GET HIGH, STARVING CHILDREN DIE. - It really is that simple.

Saddam's regime propped up on lies, by liars, defended by scum.
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thou shalt not bear false witness...

by akasha Sunday, Jun. 22, 2003 at 6:23 PM

"We know that Iraq has produced thousands of tons of chemical agents, including mustard gas, sarin nerve gas, VX nerve gas. And surveillance photos reveal that the regime is rebuilding facilities that it had used to produce chemical and biological weapons. Iraq poses an imminent threat to the world."

-George Bush October 2002

WMD unaccounted for...sheesh, what a fucking liar.
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Speaking of Liars

by ditto Sunday, Jun. 22, 2003 at 6:27 PM

Q - "Why no links to anything you wrote on LA-IMC prior
to war starting saying anything about Bush lieing
about WMD's?"

Diogenes - "...I did in fact say so before Duhbya launched his murderous campaign."

Diogenes, provide the LA-IMC link where, prior to the war starting, you said their were no WMD's to be found in Iraq.

With the handy "Search" feature here at LA-IMC, it shouldn't be too hard for you to cut and paste that little info for us all.
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Good I am glad you...

by Diogenes Sunday, Jun. 22, 2003 at 6:32 PM

...know how to do a search.

Get busy.

You've got a lot of reading to do Brigg.

BUSH LIED, CHILDREN DIED. It really is that simple.
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Provide the Link

by Where? Sunday, Jun. 22, 2003 at 6:35 PM

You get busy. You've lied about claiming you
warned us all about the
absence of WMD's in Iraq. If you didn't, where's your proof? Provide the Link.
LA-IMC's data goes back months and months. Do the "search". Give us the link.
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Attn: Diogenes

by Where? Sunday, Jun. 22, 2003 at 6:46 PM

http://www.la.indymedia.org/news/2003/06/66322_comment.php#66342

You see, I got the link where you claimed to have warned us prior to the war that there were no WMD's in Iraq. You need to have this presented to you several times over the next week or two or three or five million until you give us that link where you claim to have told us all about the lack of WMD's in Iraq. You wouldn't have just LIED to me about that now, would you????
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Dr.

by Werner Erhard Sunday, Aug. 31, 2003 at 11:48 PM

Upon further review, there's something very fish about the video of the 1st WTC plane impact: http://frame21.cjb.net
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Coup

by Truthout Sunday, Nov. 02, 2003 at 2:28 PM

The plane that struck the first tower was a NASA C-45A. Just look it up on Google. A robotic, unmanned warplane.

These fascists have gone too far.
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^^

by nonanarchist Sunday, Nov. 02, 2003 at 2:52 PM

Werner:

Linking to a conspiracy theory site is not evidence...except of your gullibility.

Truthout:

Googling a plane does not prove it hit the Towers.

Do you now understand why you're wrong?
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take a look at the series...

by Sheepdog Monday, Nov. 03, 2003 at 11:08 AM

Something is very strange about the detonation at the side of the building BEFORE the airframe in question struck the side of the 1st
WTC tower.
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