There Was Never Anything Wrong With Being a Communist,

Lloyd Hart

Communism is at the very heart of being human which fits the model that nature has hard wired us with, tribalism. A collective assurance that no individual should go without food and shelter and an outlet for their creativity in our tribe. How can you argue against this. It is only human to have compassion for your fellow human. So where does the fear that communism will some how steal your individualism and become a totalitarian construct. Well, quite simply it comes from those who claimed to be communists but were quite the opposite. Lenin, Stalin, Mao and many others. These people were in actuality, state capitalists not communists. For there to be communism there must be democracy in every enterprise no matter how big or small. The people making the decision on the grassroots as to what would be done with local resources and labor.

Just as George Bush claims to be for freedom and democracy, he is taking freedom and democracy away from us with every breath he takes. And this is where it comes to a point. Feudalism is in direct conflict with communism, freedom and democracy. Communism is freedom and democracy and Hitler, Bush, Lenin, Stalin and Mao are the feudalism that would do away with communism, freedom and democracy as they did and are doing. The idea of "If you want to eat you must sit close to the master's table" is still law of the land as the feudal lords are still very willing to use violence and fear to get concentrated power.

I personally am an anarchist, which I consider to be the ultimate form of democracy as no policy can go forward with out total consensus and of course can only work within a completely nonviolent society where no one has more power than any one else. Utopia, you might say. Will never happen. Well, where 6 billion people have just run out of raw resources, food and fresh water enough to take care of nature and humanity I think a new paradigm will take shape all on it's own. I believe that as we see things get grimmer we will see "If you want to eat you must sit close to your fellow human who sits close to nature". evolve out of the first painful shifts of power from the feudal lords to the people and to nature. This of course can only be accomplished with a collective democratic spirit, which will come about naturally but not until the feudal lords are quickly routed by the hungry bellies that are now spawning what I have been calling the Global French Revolution.

The feudal lords are not oblivious to this Global French Revolution as they are the ones going for complete control of the strategic oil supply with their ridiculous pretense of fighting a war on terrorism. All imperial modern military might in the world is completely dependent on oil as it's fuel. A strategy that had it's imperialist advantage while the entire third world was sufficiently beaten into submission and there were sufficient scraps from the masters table's. But just as in the French, Russian and Chinese Revolutions when the feudal lords sucked up all the wealth leaving no scraps even for the local feudal lords, globalization is now creating enough hungry bellies globally to overwhelm the entire society in food gathering swarms. The human instinct to survive is by far more powerful and communistic than feudal power could ever be. If you look back through out history you find that all feudal power was brought down by hungry bellies every time.

The CIA has reported that the fresh water supply is collapsing globally and the World Health Organization has recently announced that hunger is the number one killer in the so-called developing world. So if one was to look at us and our situation from two thousand years in the future you would see George Bush as a desperate feudal lord making all the classic mistakes that all feudal lords have made in the past (that do not come out of their delusions of absolute power absolutely) just before their collapse into oblivion.

I would like bit more organized revolution to bring down the empire but regardless of how it happens it will organize it self and in the first steps it will resemble total chaos but after the first revolutionary meal people will begin to come together in a collective spirit of freedom and democracy and communism which will evolve into anarchism in time.

Feudalism has gone global and discovered it's bankruptcy. On a planet with collapsing resources the only way out is to cooperate in the fixing of our collective problems.

Here is my communist manifesto for survival in the twenty first century.

Man does not have dominion over earth, earth, nature and humanity are one.

A global effort must be launched immediately to replant and reestablish the great moisture regulators, our forests and wetlands to ensure an everlasting supply of fresh water and using wood for building and as fuel must be completely banned. There is no humanity without healthy forests and wetlands. Steal and stone will suffice for construction as there is enough of both above ground now to last a thousands of years. Clean fuels for cooking, heating and transportation must come from methane and crop generated oils. Food and water must be removed from commodity markets and distributed free of charge by what were once military resources and personnel. If food has no monetary value people will eat and share the food rather than sell it. Nature has no cash register. All labor for feudal enterprise must halt immediately in order that we may deal with the real global threat, the collapse of the world food and fresh water supply. Advanced communications technology must given unfettered access to all recycled materials so that all human beings can communicate with each other. All state secrecy must be abolished and opened to the public. All nuclear material must be rendered useless for bomb building and contained and the scientific community set about to solve the dangers of fissile material. Nuclear power must be immediately banned. All uranium mines must be closed and the environment must be restored. All genetic manipulation and experimentation must be banned. All medical practice must resort to the more effective herbal regime. Surgery restricted to emergency care only. All health care to have unfettered research in plant based treatments. All travel must be unfettered. All communication must be unfettered. All weapons must be destroyed. All sexual territorial behavior must be abolished. People must be allowed to couple as they please. Meditation must be mandatory curriculum for all children. Violence will be confronted with tribal intervention.

All nation states must be dissolved into bio-regional democracies with all bio-regional democracies responsible globally for the health of each and every other bio-region. People from healthy bio-regions should volunteer to help bio-regions that are trashed to rebuild their bio diversity. Surpluses from healthy bio-regions will be the source for the disarmed recycled military distribution to bio-regions in need. Human beings are not capable of handling the responsibility of a global government but by taking care of each bio-region on a united bio-regional consensus who's bill of rights insures that basic human, environmental and democratic needs are to be met through redistribution of surpluses until all bio-regions are healthy and surpluses can be recycled.

The one good thing about mass starvation is that you can't eat religious mysticism, you can only use it to justify the feeding of your enemy. Fundamentalism will fall by the way side as the crisis deepens. Spiritual practice will be considered a happy consequence of the awe at which we view the beauty of the universe. Every religion has love and compassion in it and this is what we need right now.

Maybe once we fix some of our problems some aliens will take us out for spin in the rest of the universe.

Thank you Lloyd Hart for your reflection on the philosophy/theory of communism.

There have been FAR TOO MANY anarchists who simply throw hostile accusations at reds and the political ideas they embrace... without taking into cosideration some very important points.

Rank and file reds have never embraced the idea of communism because they wanted to set up torture camps and bully the masses. Reds never envisioned a workers state run by elites for elites. The vision of a communist future was based on deep felt ideals like equality, fraternity, human solidarity. Yes... Stalinism was an enormous crime... beyond words. Yes... there were many unacceptable "mistakes" made in the name of communism. But the operative word here is "mistake."

One must judge a philosophy... not on it's adherants, but on it's principles.

Let me use Christianity as an example. If we were to judge the religion based on the behavior of it's adherants and their actions, then we'd be judging Christianity based on the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, and those who waved the Bible while profiting from the slave trade and the genocide of Native Americans. The true ideals of Christianity are not expressed by television evangelists, or those right wing ideologs who pose as devout religionists.

Clearly... Christianity must be evaluated and judged on it's principles. Those principles are as clear, pristine, and beautiful as they ever where.

Likewise... the principles of communism remain untarnished despite the abhorant behavior of those who have claimed to embrace communism.

Those rank and file who today uphold the ideals of communism do so... not because they wish to see other leaders like those who run the "People's Republic of China"... but because they wish to do away with such leadership! Rank and file communists... who embrace the ideal without belonging to a particular party, do so because there is no party worthy of being called "communist."

There are those who believe that communism is the highest political expression of the advanced working class. And that thought is embraced DESPITE the sillyness of organized groups who claim to be communist.

Now that the fearful and deformed Stalinist Soviet Union has been dashed on the rocks... it's time to re-evaluate the original principles of communism. As the German political activist Rosa Luxemburg said just before her murder in 1919 at the hands of Fascists, "The choice is clear... either Socialism or Barbarism."

"Communism as a political theory is a tremendous experiment, but, unfortunately, in Russia, it is an experiment conducted in a poorly equipped laboratory"

-Albert Einstein

But of course, BA is much smarter than him.

Al was good at math, not so good in other subjects, and obviously a complete failure in political analysis.

There was never anything right with being a Communist.

6 million Ukranians starved to death.

20 million Chinese starved to death.

millions uncounted incarcerated and starved to death or died of exposure.

1-2 million Cambodians starved or butchered to death.

How many millions of North Koreans will we discover have been starved to death?

How many millions will starve to death in Zimbabwe?

I think there is a lot wrong with being a Communist.

Gee, Simpleton...how many Cambodians deaths is the US responsible for, or can't you count that high? Easier to lick boots and complain about a far off murders, than to grow some fuckin' balls and do something about the murderers of your own government.

Oh, that's right, your brain will not allow those thoughts, must only answer as ordered by your masters.....

Let me sum up your bankrupt thought process in one sentence: It is OK to murder and starve people, as long as you make profits doing it.

Now, as you were, Private....

KPC you really need to switch to decaf.

As far as your question pertaining to Cambodia, I would be surprised to find that the number of American-inflicted casualties of Cambodian nationals was above the low thousands. The bombing of Cambodia took place primarily along the border with Vietnam, in remote jungled regions which were used as safe havens for the Viet Cong and NVA. Comparing this to the systematic removal of the entire population of the country to work and extermination camps by the Communists shows how ignorant you are of subjects you feel compelled to comment on.

einstein was terrible at mathematics! he was legendary in observing physicalphenomena, spellt light..physics is another word for his field..not fucking mathematics..

SimpleOne: "I would be surprised to find that the number of American-inflicted casualties of Cambodian nationals was above the low thousands. "

Of couse you would be surprised by the truth...you wouldn't know it if it sneaked up behind you and dicked you in the ass.

But, for the sake of proving what a dick you are, let's accept your inaccurate estimate. What a wonderful piece of apologia your post is...we ONLY killed innocents in the LOW THOUSANDS..and only in the area where the NVA were HIDING...so it's not like it was OUR fault or anything.

So, SimpleTon, where's your condemnation for these murders, for that is what they were...murders...Where is your call to bring the murdering Kissinger to justice?...After all, Mao is dead, Stalin is dead, and Castro, well, we haven't killed him yet. But Kissinger is alive and breathing, and in our jurisdiction. If all you can do is say we are great because they murder more than us. well, a two year old can see the bankrupcy of that argument...but I can understand how it would be too much for your militarized brain to comprehend.

Face it: you are an apologist, a denier, an equivocator for criminals and murders. You love to point the finger, but deny YOUR OWN culpability...for if you continue to deny, then you are culpable. These murders are facilitated, and will continue to be facilitated, by people like YOU.

YOU ARE GUILTY, GUILTY, GUILTY.

Now, at ease, Private.

I see your prescription has run low again.

People who die in bombing raids are not in fact victims of murder. The targets of these raids were military installations during a time of war. The installations in question were housing, feeding and arming the soldiers who daily killed American and South Vietnamese troops. The decision to bomb them was the right one, and civilian casualties are unavoidable when the enemy utilizes civilian labor and support personnel.

The killing fields of Cambodia killed at best estimate between 1 and 2 million people. How you manage to hop over their bodies to quibble with me about civilians killed in bombing raids astounds me.

Now, no more caffeine.

But we were NOT at war with Cambodia, and this government LIED about its bombing in Cambodia. The government of Cambodia was NOT arming North Vietnam, and was NOT facilitating their occupation of Cambodia. The targets of the raids were NOT military installations, but villages and hamlets, the bombing was designed to TERRORIZE the population, and the policy of deciept of OUR OWN POPULATION was drafted because those responsible knew how indefensible their position was...

....maybe they just needed more bootlickers like you to come and apologize for their murders... that's right...MURDERS...can you say it MMMMUUUUURRRRDDDDEEERRRRSSSS! How does to have the blood of innocent children on your hands?

Now, drop and give me 50 for being stupid, Private!

You are, once again, sadly mistaken. The targets of the bombing campaign along the Cambodian - Vietnamese border were military safe havens established by the North Vietnamese Army with the tacit approval of the Cambodian government. The famous Ho Chi Mihn trail ran from North Vietnam through Laos and into Cambodia. Please read a little bit before writing such drivel in the future.

Once again, you are lying, but, hey, you're a registered Republican, right?



CIA overthrows Sihanouk and installs Lon Nol, a US puppet. Sinanouk was out because he would not side with the US and allow the war to expand in his neutural country. With the Prince out, US begins to widen the war, a decision you claim is the right one, and a precedent that would allow Brittain to bomb Boston for the same reasons, but let's forget about that idiocy for a minute.

The war widens, Khmer Rouge gain strength and credibility within Cambodia by aligning with the factions supporting the deposed Prince, a direct consequence of American policy, so we can thank Kissenger for the Khmer Rouge...And the bombing was certainly not to protect American lives as you ridiculously claim, because the bombing increased after 1/27/73, which was when the Paris accords were signed and American involvement ended. How can we have been bombing to protect American lives when the war was over for America? Obviously, there were other more nefarious reasons that your masters will not allow you to think about no less write about.

The targets?...villages and hamlets...can you say that? VILLAGES...HAMLETS...try it....feel free to use a dictionary if you think it will help. They were "military targets" in the sense that women and children in them were the intended targets, which was pretty much just an extention of the existing policy of bombing in Laos and Vietnam. You're pathetic rationalizations offered as excuses for these MURDERS are flacid to say the least...better do a little reading before you bark next time, my little limp dick doggie....

...now, as your were, boy...go fetch my slippers....

Well, there you go again…

Point One: Sihanouk was a weasel that played both sides of the fence in the Vietnam War, and was finally deposed with the assistance of the CIA by Lon Nol. The reason that Lon Nol was necessary in the first place is that Sihanouk had made his country an open highway for the movement of troops and supplies to be used against the South Vietnamese regime and American troops operating in South Vietnam. Once deposed, Sihanouk loaned his name and credibility to the Khmer Rouge – a Maoist Communist movement materially supplied by North Vietnam and China. Once the Khmer Rouge seized power, they ejected the hapless little butterball Sihanouk like so much garbage. To blame Kissenger for the creation of the Khmer Rouge is as ignorant as saying that the bombing ‘made them crazy’ and this is what prompted the killing fields. The Khmer Rouge were a Communist insurgency bought and paid for by America’s enemies.

Point Two: You make the argument that the most intense bombing occurred after the Paris peace accords were singed. Interesting, first I’ve heard of that. There was intense bombing of Cambodia during this time of course, because of massive North Vietnamese offensives launched to topple the South Vietnamese regime. And from where did these offensives originate? Why from Cambodia, of course. Hmm. Strange. If the Cambodian border region wasn’t crawling with logistical bases and staging areas, how did so many North Vietnamese Army divisions emerge from there? Curious.

Point Three: Finally, the decision to drop bombs is ultimately a political one, and the activity is not entered into lightly.

I have asserted that the United States bombed the border region, and later invaded across it, for military reasons. The region was a staging area and safe haven for tens of thousands of North Vietnamese troops.

You make the assertion that the United States bombed the border region for what? To kill a bunch of dirty-bottomed rice farmers in a third world backwater? To be a big meanie? You make no sense. Your argument is a child’s.

Now do your homework, and try to make some sense next time.

Geez, lies just fly onto the screen whenever you come within arms distance of a keyboard, Private, why is that?

Point One: No point, just more lies. Sihanouk was interested in maintaining his neutrality, if that makes him a weasel in your thin book, so be it. As to his country being a highway for troops and supplies, that is just the type of exaggeration needed to defend the indefensible...when the truth don't help.. LIE LIE LIE...typical Republican....you are Republican, right? And Cambodia supported by Vietnam???? HAHAHAHAHAH! You could not exhibit your ignorance of the region more than you did with THAT lie!

Point Two: There is that little pussy two step that I am sooooo used to seeing from your ilk...The bombing of Cambodia increase AFTER the accords were signed...Firsts you heard of it? I am not surprised that a dumb fuck like you hears lots of things for the first time...check it out for yourself...in fact the tonnage dropped in Mar, Apr & May of 73 was more than TWICE that dropped the entire previous year. So your comments regarding protecting American lives was...um...how should I put this diplomatically... A L I E....you gotta work on that pussy two step, my little doggie, or learn to do it on all fours while barking Hail to the Thief...

Point Three: Two words...MADMAN THEORY...y'know..for CREDIBILITY with the Ruskies...ever heard of that???? No? We bombed Cambodia for the thinnest of Military reasons, and continued to bomb after the Vietnam war, your complete ignorance notwithstanding, in a desperate attempt to fix what we had already fucked up beyond fixing. Oh, and rest assured Private Fido, the Khmer Rouge are Kissinger's to wear around his neck, it was his policies that made them viable. Deposing Sihanouk paved the way for the Khmer Rouge, who could not have gotten were they were were it not for the CIA overthrowing Sihanouk. That is why the US continued to recognize them as the only true government of Cambodia long after the killing fields were on the front page of newspapers all over the world, and it took the Vietnamese bad guys to put a stop to it, it served our purposes to do so. Oh and I was hysterical when you made that "....and the activity is not entered into lightly" comment, but what exactly did you mean, consultations with Congress, declarations of war, debates across the country.....or just a quick drink and a 'what-the-fuck-let's-do-it between Tricky Dick/President Resigned in Disgrace and that mass murderer Kissinger? It is not in dispute that Vietnamese were hiding in Cambodia during the war, but this does not give the US or ANY country the right to invade...no less destroy an entire country, which is what we did. If it did, then, as I said, Brittain should have bombed Boston a long time ago..and, of course, you would support it.

Don't you boys playing army ever do any fuckin' WORK...or are they all just leeches like you?

Well then, boy, make yourself usefull, where are those slippers? Don't make me use this newspaper again, doggie!

Did you really just say we bombed Cambodia to impress the Russians? What are you, new? I just got done telling you you have the reasoning of a child and you come back with something so juvenile even a toddler wouldn't buy it. Don't you think all the bombing we were doing in Laos (along the Ho Chi Mihn trail) and North Vietnam impressed them enough? You are really, really dumb.

I have made the argument, agreed to by every credible historian of the conflict, that the Ho Chi Mihn trail extended through Cambodia and that Siahanouk looked the other way at it's existance. It is this salient fact upon which our whole discussion hinges. The Ho Chi Mihn trail did exist, it was used by the North Vietnamese to funnel troops and material to the South, and it was the target of bombing in Cambodia. You have made inferences that you don't believe it did exist, but that isn't good enough. Say it. Do you believe the Ho Chi Mihn trail existed or not? Because if not, there really is no point in continuing this conversation. One cannot argue with someone about World War One who refuses to admit there is or ever was a Germany.

Chomsky!! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ugh, ha ha ha.

...See, Pvt. Fido, when faced with logical arguments, you slip into something...what..I don't quite know...sounds like you're barkin' at the moon.

You're confused...it is understandable, you're obviously easily confused...hence why you are in the military instead of having a real job, fuckin' parasite...go back and read what I typed, then go back and read a little history....from "credible" historians, whatever...then try again.

Now, fetch me my slippers, private, or you'll be pealin' spuds for a year.

The undisputed champion of illogical and infantile posts returns to grace us with yet more of the contents of his rather small mind. Taking a break from writing your opus? What's the title? "Stay at home daddy"?

In the reply above I was laughing. Chomsky is a laughing stock, so I laughed. He is so devoid of reason and his points are so completely without merit that to debate his views would be to debase myself. Not unlike how I drag myself through the gutters of Moronville arguing with you. But at least you amuse me. You are a good cautionary tale. There but for the Grace of God, hundreds of bad decisions, several blows to the head, and a general lobotomy go I...

...Pvt. Fido, you could not POSSIBLY debase yourself any more than you already have....

...now, quit your yappin' and get me those slippers, doggie...