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by Robert Douglas
Saturday, Nov. 09, 2002 at 5:45 PM
mindeyed@yahoo.com
Field Recording from the Not In Our Name-Los Angeled protest as well as a speech by former UN Inspector Scott Ritter.
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November 8, 2002: SOUNDS OF PROTEST, part two of our three part series about Bush's war on Iraq begins with field recordings from the Not in Our Name festival. Including speeches from many people including Ron Kovic, whose true story was portrayed in Oliver Stone's movie Born on the Fourth of July. Also, Listen to Scott Ritter, former UN Weapons Inspector tell you exactly how weapons inspections work and the possibilities of Iraq possessing weapon's of mass destruction.
ON THE NET AT WWW.CERRITOS.EDU/WPMD OR IN THE NORWALK AREA AT 1700 AM!
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by brian
Sunday, Nov. 10, 2002 at 12:27 AM
we tend to forget the US has WMD in plenty
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by brian
Sunday, Nov. 10, 2002 at 5:18 AM
is anyone is a loose cannon it is george bush. I suggest you prune him back.
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by brian
Sunday, Nov. 10, 2002 at 5:25 AM
cause the bush admin itself plays fast and loose with the truth: witness its continuing harrassment of iraq over non-existent WMD and endless quest to link sadam to bin laden(much easier to link bin laden with bushes 1 & 2 via CIA and carlyle group) to provide a pretext to invade iraq.
Meanwhile, a bit about voting in Missouri:
We just returned from voting in Missouri. There were several things worth comment.
We live in a rural area and, thankfully, there were no were no computers in sight. Still a paper ballot here, counted by local residents in the same room with the voters. Interestingly, I was given a pencil to vote with. When I asked why we weren't using pens they said, "They always send us pencils." I asked if I could use a pen and the gentleman in charge handed me a pen from his own pocket with a smile.
"Voting booths" were available for privacy, but most everyone sat down at big tables and marked their ballots in plain sight. There was much discussion amongst folks at the tables regarding the various candidates, ammendments and initiatives and, at least while I was there, about the ballot itself.
I saw three problems with the ballot I was given. The party "logos" at the top where you can choose to vote a straight party ticket were switched around. The Statue of Liberty over the Democrat choice and the Donkey was over the Libertarian choice. When I pointed this out to the "Election Officials" they were all very surprised. Since they hadn't noticed they assured me it was "just a mistake", my suspicions weren't justified and that it didn't really matter anyway. (I know, though, that logos are for those who can't or don't read...) When I asked why names for two Green candidates were missing from the ballot they assured me there weren't Green candidates for those positions. I had to point out to the officials that when there wasn't a candidate from a party for a position the entire space in the column was left blank rather than just missing the name. Needless to say, there was a lot of shoulder shrugging. Another typographical error? Who knew? There was no way, at voting time, to find out. The third problem I found with the ballot was that there was no room to write in candidates. The instructions said to cross out one of the names on the ballot, but mark the box next to that name, then write in your choice. There was, maybe, an eighth of an inch available between the typeset words and dividing lines to scribble in your preference... The election officials shrugged their shoulders again.
We were not allowed to take home copies of the ballot, you know we asked, and I can understand that they keep strict count of every ballot. Next time, however, we're taking our digital camera to take a picture of the ballot and our cell phone to call the county clerk regarding any questions.
I asked the most senior official how I could become an election official next time around. He said, "Well, that depends, are you a Democrat or a Republican?" When I explained that I was neither, but considered myself independent, he, and the other officials present gave me blank looks...that alone was worth voting today... The consensus was that I had to be either a Democrat or a Republican to become an election official, but, of course, I could call the county clerk to find out more information. You bet I will, and if we're still using paper ballots I'm going to do my best to have a hand in creating them. (I'm a typesetter by trade.)
I have to stress that I was inquisitive but not confrontational. One official even told me how pleased she was to have someone with sharp eyes around! At 31 I was the youngest one in the room and the "old-timers" were friendly and as helpful as they could be.
On the way home from the polls, one neighbor commented how our area only had 78 voters show up for the presidential election, yet we were numbers 138+ at 11:00 a.m!
One last thing, you don't see very many American Flags on display around these parts anymore... I think folks have recognized it for the marketing ploy it was and resent having the symbol of our democracy hijacked by propagandists.
Even if you're not tuned into the media revolution, the proof is in the pudding and it looks like a cowpaddy...
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by Question
Sunday, Nov. 10, 2002 at 11:07 PM
Good observations, 'brian', the more things change, the more they stay the same. I remember the south well. Still there are a few good folks down there, very brave and dedicated to
justice. Continue your good work. And as for Bush Admirer-
AMY GOODMAN-AMY GOODMAN-AMY GOODMAN!
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Ha ha ha ha
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by actual intelligence
Monday, Nov. 11, 2002 at 4:10 AM
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Bush Admirer: "The Bush Administration has actual intelligence information from the CIA."
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by UCLAcamaroSS
Wednesday, Nov. 13, 2002 at 8:53 AM
If anyone is a source of disinformation its bound to be the guys who cheated to get into the white house. The people who accepted huge amounts of political campaign contributions from corporate criminals. The individuals who have personal financial intrests in going to war, and an even greater financial intrest in securing access to the second largest oil fields on the planet.
I would also like to take this time to remind those of you out here who are reading this that most of the current administration who are advocating war in iraq never served in the armed forces, and in several cases these people used their political connections to avoid military service (Bush Jr. for example was appointed to the Texas Air Guard instead of drafted to Vietnam and then went AWOL)
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by Soccer Mom
Wednesday, Nov. 13, 2002 at 5:01 PM
In a news conference on 11 October 2001, President George W. Bush said "we learned some very important lessons in Vietnam." All members of the U.S. armed forces should take a moment and familiarize themselves with the important lessons that George Bush learned during the Vietnam War. Since war in Iraq is inevitable, let?s do everything we can to encourage the men and women of the U.S. armed services to follow the example of their Commander-in-Chief when called upon to go into battle.
In May 1968, American soldiers were dying in combat in Southeast Asia at a rate of about 350 per week. George W. Bush was twelve days away from losing his student draft deferment (meaning that he?d be eligible for draft into the Vietnam War) when he abruptly decided that he should join the 147th Fighter Group of the Texas Air National Guard. In spite of the very long waiting list and having only scored the lowest acceptable grade on the pilot aptitude qualification test, this son of a Houston-based congressman managed to enlist on the same day that he applied, and a special ceremony was staged so he could be photographed swearing in for duty (a second special photo opportunity was arranged when Bush was commissioned a second lieutenant as Bush?s father the congressman [a supporter of the Vietnam War] stood proudly in the background). According to Shrub?s former commanding officer, Bush ?said he wanted to fly just like his daddy.? Other members of the Texas Air National Guard at the time included the aide to the speaker of the Texas House and at least seven members of the Dallas Cowboys professional football team; Bush?s 147th Fighter Group was known as the "Champagne Unit" because it also included the sons of future Senator Lloyd Bentsen and Texas Governor John Connally.
Immediately following his promotion to second lieutenant, Bush was put on inactive duty status and spent more than two months in Florida working for Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate, Edward J. Gurney. When he wasn?t handing out Gurney press releases and making sure that the reporters didn?t oversleep, Bush returned to Houston for weekend Guard duty. In early 1970, Bush rented a one-bedroom apartment at the exclusive Chateaux Dijon complex in Houston, a building with six swimming pools where Bush played all-day water volleyball games and dated many of the single women who lived there.
In 1973, as Bush?s daddy was being considered for a new job as chairman of Nixon?s Republican National Committee, Dubya secured an early release from the National Guard to start at Harvard Business School, eight months short of his full six-year hitch, and transferred to a reserve unit in Boston for the rest of his time. ?One of my first recollections of him,? says classmate Marty Kahn, ?was sitting in class and hearing the unmistakable sound of someone spitting tobacco. I turned around and there was George sitting in the back of the room in his [National Guard] bomber jacket spitting in a cup.? Bush?s acceptance into Harvard Business School surprised some, since he had graduated from Yale a full five years before.
Urge enlisted men and women to do like Bush did: avoid combat at all costs, hang out, sleep late, and lead an active social life; when called upon to fight a war for your great nation, see if you can to pull political strings in order to avoid the infantry and chose instead to spend two years in flight training in San Antonio and another four years in part-time service in your home state. If you lack the ruling-class connections, than you should be obliged to do whatever you can to follow the lead of your Commander-in-Chief: cheat, lie, malinger, and go AWOL. Desert while you can; killing and dying for ruling-class petrocrats is for chumps.
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by ignore ant
Wednesday, Nov. 13, 2002 at 5:21 PM
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by Or Die for Oil Profit$
Wednesday, Nov. 13, 2002 at 6:14 PM
In a news conference on 11 October 2001, President George W. Bush said "we learned some very important lessons in Vietnam." All members of the U.S. armed forces should take a moment and familiarize themselves with the important lessons that George Bush learned during the Vietnam War. Since war in Iraq is inevitable, let?s do everything we can to encourage the men and women of the U.S. armed services to follow the example of their Commander-in-Chief when called upon to go into battle.
In May 1968, American soldiers were dying in combat in Southeast Asia at a rate of about 350 per week. George W. Bush was twelve days away from losing his student draft deferment (meaning that he?d be eligible for draft into the Vietnam War) when he abruptly decided that he should join the 147th Fighter Group of the Texas Air National Guard. In spite of the very long waiting list and having only scored the lowest acceptable grade on the pilot aptitude qualification test, this son of a Houston-based congressman managed to enlist on the same day that he applied, and a special ceremony was staged so he could be photographed swearing in for duty (a second special photo opportunity was arranged when Bush was commissioned a second lieutenant as Bush?s father the congressman [a supporter of the Vietnam War] stood proudly in the background). According to Shrub?s former commanding officer, Bush ?said he wanted to fly just like his daddy.? Other members of the Texas Air National Guard at the time included the aide to the speaker of the Texas House and at least seven members of the Dallas Cowboys professional football team; Bush?s 147th Fighter Group was known as the "Champagne Unit" because it also included the sons of future Senator Lloyd Bentsen and Texas Governor John Connally.
Immediately following his promotion to second lieutenant, Bush was put on inactive duty status and spent more than two months in Florida working for Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate, Edward J. Gurney. When he wasn?t handing out Gurney press releases and making sure that the reporters didn?t oversleep, Bush returned to Houston for weekend Guard duty. In early 1970, Bush rented a one-bedroom apartment at the exclusive Chateaux Dijon complex in Houston, a building with six swimming pools where Bush played all-day water volleyball games and dated many of the single women who lived there.
In 1973, as Bush?s daddy was being considered for a new job as chairman of Nixon?s Republican National Committee, Dubya secured an early release from the National Guard to start at Harvard Business School, eight months short of his full six-year hitch, and transferred to a reserve unit in Boston for the rest of his time. ?One of my first recollections of him,? says classmate Marty Kahn, ?was sitting in class and hearing the unmistakable sound of someone spitting tobacco. I turned around and there was George sitting in the back of the room in his [National Guard] bomber jacket spitting in a cup.? Bush?s acceptance into Harvard Business School surprised some, since he had graduated from Yale a full five years before.
Urge enlisted men and women to do like Bush did: avoid combat at all costs, hang out, sleep late, and lead an active social life; when called upon to fight a war for your great nation, see if you can to pull political strings in order to avoid the infantry and chose instead to spend two years in flight training in San Antonio and another four years in part-time service in your home state. If you lack the ruling-class connections, than you should be obliged to do whatever you can to follow the lead of your Commander-in-Chief: cheat, lie, malinger, and go AWOL. Desert while you can; killing and dying for ruling-class petrocrats is for chumps.
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