Open Letter To the Peace Movement

We Must Close Ranks Now!

I could care less who is organizing the DC rally on the 26th. of Oct. I'm going. I am an anarchist who's only agenda is the saving the precious life on this planet. I am not invested in any particular group. I put my analysis out for free on Indymedia because I shy away from entrenched economic structures when it comes to my research. I am only interested in the opportunity for truth to surface,

As far as I am concerned the CIA could be organizing the rally and I would still show up. The numbers are what count not the organizers. This silence between the different groups as each of them compete to be the leadership of this movement is only counter productive if you pay attention to it. It is the cause that matters not the petty personality conflicts amongst the organizers of the movement.

My favorite paradox in America is the fact that politicians especially those on the right focus on the sanctity of the flag rather than the sanctity of the constitution, espousing freedom while shredding the great meaning of the document. As long as this movement keeps focusing on the cult of personality instead of movement we will not get the numbers out that are required to make a difference. People need to park their egos and focus on the prize, a future without war. A future where Nature is allowed her dance of life. A future devoid of the power and the glory of man but rather of all life on this beautiful gem, this Earth.

If we can not visualize our future it can not happen. To visualize our future it must be accepted that every person represents a unique view of that future. Ideas live and die as people do but the one constant is life. Life is more important than anything. There is no aspect of life that is attempting to destroy the whole in order to win the game of life. This I have the greatest faith in. This is why we will succeed. We are the balance to those who resent life as they can not control it. We who have accepted life and death as we accept the seasons can walk together without fear in the unity of protest against war.

I have no leader, I lead no one. Please, let us come together right now, over me.

An anarchist lecturing us on the 'great meaning' of the Constitution.

...still wackin' that lil' ol' woody, huh Flea-Mex?

to come up with a reasoned response?

The Left, of course, recognizes that the US Constitution, which limits the scope of government power and protects individual liberty, is the biggest obstacle to their deluded fantasy of governmental control of all wealth, which is all the left really cares about -- the money and the power. Doubt it -- look at any government where Leftists run amok. From Albania to Zimbabwe all you see is oppression and poverty.

And would like to piggyback onto your comments a few thoughts.

This “situation” demands we go beyond the usual in fighting that we love so much. The this or that surrounding communist, socialist, Anarchist, or even, is Jimmy Carter progressive enough for the “peace movement” etc. etc. are debates that can wait

Good advice is to be tolerant and recognize anyone who is working towards peace and justice IS AN ALLY.

As far as the upcoming rallies in DC and San Francisco, ----GO----!!!!

DC and SF are designed to show the war mongers something they understand, POWER and what kind, THE PEOPLE’S POWER! You know the world will be watching and you know the media can be trusted to downplay and under estimate the thing.

In closing, it’s way easy and inexpensive to get to the San Francisco rally from L. A. Check out A.N.S.W.E.R. 213-487-2458 www.internationalanswer.org and ride up on the bus among friends; maybe even partake in a wee bit of debate.

See you in S.F.

builder123

to come up with a seasoned response?

The Right, of course, recognizes that the US Constitution, which limits the scope of government power and protects individual liberty, is the biggest obstacle to their deluded fantasy of governmental control of all wealth, which is all the Right really cares about -- the money and the power. Doubt it -- look at any government where the Right runs amok. From Columbia to the United States all you see is war and stagnation.

You say look at the "United States all you see is war and stagnation."

First, as for War, American military power brought peace two to of the most violent lands on earth -- Germany and Japan. We brought about the end of one of the bloodiest regimes ever -- the USSR.

More recently, we ended the brutal rule of the Taliban (over the "progressives" opposition), and are about to vanquish another bloodthirsty dictator in Iraq (again, over the "progressives" opposition).

As for stagnation, please! The United States creates more wealth, invites more technologies and allows more people to reach their potential than anyother nation on earth. Hence the lines around the embassies in virtually every nation on earth of the poor, hungry and desperate trying to get IN to the US.

T-mex is your atypical, non-altruistic, Capitalist shithead, Welcome,

Jarhead, to the mix. I see you think you have a brain, but your

thoughts are one dimensional--a fascist jackoff. Stop fetishizing money

and taking over other countries You see to have spewed forth from the same

anus as Mussolina and Hitler.

They must not teach spelling on the res. Apache, Eh? How'd we miss one? Better call out the old 7th Cav. Garry Owen! http://www.cantho-rvn.org/insignias/white-1-7th-cav-3rd-br-1stcav-div-454x550.jpg

What do you mean I'm non-altruistic? I want everyone to benefit from greed and violence! All those poor and exploited people lined up at the embassies, tired of being exploited in their own countries by capitalist-dominated American Foreign Policy--let's let them all in so they too can work shit jobs cleaning our plates and mowing our lawns and try to scramble and scrabble their way up the big American ladder of hierarchical success (but shhhhh--don't tell em they've got a snowball's chance in hell--that would ruin the whole thing!)

And as for fetishizing money--hey, what else am I gonna do in an illusory world of false scarcity and elevation/substitution of quantity over quality? What else are illusions for but fetishizing anyway? Just like minutes and hours--look at all these people running around talking about how they don't have time, they're out of time, they need more time--because just like with money, they've been hoodwinked into thinking a measurement device like minutes is actually the REAL THING. And just like with money, they fetishize time as well. But how else is a system built on (false) future promise and false value supposed to work anyway? I mean, if I wasn't here fetishizing money and time and all the other lies, I might start realizing the true value of things, and how all this "scarcity" is just a big lie to keep us running toward a future that never comes so somebody else can get richer while we give up all our "time". Heck, if I started thinking like that, I might even reach a more englightened consciousness and realize all time is now, there is no future or past, and pinning people's happiness on the future is a way to keep them unliving in the present, just as dwelling on the past can do the same thing, so they won't mind so much being so unhappy and unfulfilled while I make money off of them.

But none of these things would be good for greed, or capitalism, or profit. So let's not go there.

And as for taking over other countries--hey, how else are we supposed to impart to them all the wondrous opportunities of illusory capitalist life and fetish? And not to mention all the money WE can make off their willingness to work dirt cheap to supply us with more illusions and consumption for our own fetishes. Think of all the TIME you'll have freed up to talk on your cel phone and drive your SUV around and around and take crappy vacations in pre-determined tourist spots, now that you won't have to worry about sitting in a horrendous factory sewing lousy underwear for the majority of your life in order to earn wages that will barely (if that) keep you and your family alive, while dreaming of a future when one day you too can buy crappy underwear sewn by exploited human beings and say nothing to people who mean nothing to you on your own cel phone... that, or there's always heaven and paradise to look forward to. Either way, we've got you pal.

She-Mex...

...talking alot...

...not saying anything.

Fuggin idiot child!

...well, it may be a tight race..but Bush will have to die first, otherwise he owns that position for LIFE.

“First, as for war, America’s military” might has been used 234 times (1798 to 1993) in every corner of the world and it ain’t always been for mom and apple pie. Oh, if you want to get the count current you’ll probably need to take off your shoes to complete the tally.

As far those “brutal Taliban” yep, your boys ended them, but hey, they started them. CIA funded / SAS trained.

“About to vanquish another blood thirsty dictator”,

and another and another and another….. Someone ought to tell President Rambo to back off and take a look at what a man of peace had to say and I’m not referring to General Sharon.

The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. Instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies it... Through violence you may murder the hater, but you do not murder hate. In fact, violence merely increases hate.... Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. -- Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.



“Concerning Stagnation, please!” Stagnation hell let’s call it DECLINE. You’re a big cheerleader for the prez. CONGRESSWOMEN MAXINE WATERS has prepared a list of chants for you, but the real credit goes to Bush:

- 1.4 million Americans added to the uninsured rolls.

- U. S. stocks had the worst September since the Great Depression.

- Worst third quarter since 1987.

- 401(k) continue their sharp decline.



- .5 trillion lost in the stock market since President Bush took over.

- 2 million people have lost their jobs under the Bush administration.

- Middle income Americans has seen a 2.2 % decline in income.

- Last week for the first time in 8 years the poverty rate went up.

- Consumer confidence has dropped for the fourth straight month, to the lowest level since November 2001.

- Failed economic stimulus program (that tax cut we just had to have).

All the above against the back drop of:

- Even more tax breaks for the wealthiest Americans.

- Forgotten social issues:

Rising unemployment, saving social security, prescription drug cost relief, education reform and stagnant economic growth.

- A pre-occupation with war and feel good non-binding tax resolutions.

- Corporate crime regulated to the political back burner.

Congresswoman Waters bring a strong message to the President that the people don’t want his costly war and its high time he gets to work on the pressing issues of our society.

THANK YOU CONGRESSWOMEN MAXINE WATERS

“The United States creates more wealth” and you got the facts to back it up too. This report on the subject will help to reinforce your point:

Today's consumption is undermining the environmental resource base. It is exacerbating inequalities. And the dynamics of the consumption-poverty-inequality-environment nexus are accelerating. If the trends continue without change - not redistributing from high-income to low-income consumers, not shifting from polluting to cleaner goods and production technologies, not promoting goods that empower poor producers, not shifting priority from consumption for conspicuous display to meeting basic needs - today's problems of consumption and human development will worsen.

... The real issue is not consumption itself but its patterns and effects.

... Inequalities in consumption are stark. Globally, the 20% of the world's people in the highest-income countries account for 86% of total private consumption expenditures - the poorest 20% a minuscule 1.3%. More specifically, the richest fifth:

 Consume 45% of all meat and fish, the poorest fifth 5%.

 Consume 58% of total energy, the poorest fifth less than 4%.

 Have 74% of all telephone lines, the poorest fifth 1.5%.

 Consume 84% of all paper, the poorest fifth 1.1%.

 Own 87% of the world's vehicle fleet, the poorest fifth less than 1%.

Runaway growth in consumption in the past 50 years is putting strains on the environment never before seen.

(Emphasis Added) -- Human Development Report 1998 Overview, United Nations Development Programme (UNDP)

“Hence the lines around U. S. embassies”. Lines, boy do they got lines. Lines of vehicle barricades and Marines.

Well “T-Mess” you have a good one and let’s part with one final quote and comment.

We must respond, but the character of that response will determine for us and for our children the world that they will inherit. I do not dispute the president's intent to rid the world of terrorism -- but we have many means to reach that goal, and measures that spawn further acts of terror or that do not address the sources of hatred do not increase our security.

Secretary of State Colin Powell himself eloquently pointed out the many ways to get at the root of this problem -- economic, diplomatic, legal and political, as well as military. A rush to launch precipitous military counterattacks runs too great a risk that more innocent men, women, children will be killed. I could not vote for a resolution that I believe could lead to such an outcome.

Rep. Barbara Lee represents the 9th Congressional District, which includes Oakland, Berkeley and Alameda.

©2001 San Francisco Chronicle

The risk to world security flows from the administration’s policies and its self appointed handmaidens.

builder123

hey T-Mex, there you go, another "reasoned" response with lots of facts and figures for you, and strangely enough, you decline to respond. Weird. You're constantly saying how no one on the "left" will give you a reasoned, rational argument, but then when someone does, we don't hear another word from you. Guess you're too busy on other posts taking cheap, substanceless potshots and aping more rhetoric and complaining how no one gives you reasoned, rational responses that can be backed up with fact.

Bush Admirer, you too--you seem to ape the same complaint everywhere, and strangely enough, you too also seem to drop out of the discussion when faced with those reasoned, rational, fact-filled arguments you seem to crave so much.

Feel free to chime back in guys, here's your big opportunity to engage in some rational dialogue and show how reasoned you are, and how sincere your interest in discussing things really is.

This is the entity that believes that the klown

in the white house is doing something besides trying to

look presidential, still.

It seems that both Bush and Bush Admirer are

in the same leaky mental boat. It's hard to believe that

there can be two morons so infused with the absolute faith

that they know anything and that it matters what they think.

BA should stop wasting his short pointless life and join his peers back in the monkey cage. He will be happier.

mmmm, nice tity rack. Curious, what kind of space-time distortion would suffiecient tittie-mass create?

Guess the CIA does know know how to throw a good party... *Zapp and Roger "More Bounce to the Ounce" playing in the backgroung* - for all of yous with a mac daddy background; can you dig it?

So, let me get this straight: say Enron, organized a rally supporting saving the Alaska National Reserve and you'd be there? Don't matter if Enron's lobbying to burn the whole damn forest down, so they can drill for oil? Hm, shrimp coctail and martinis,anyone?