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bus crash in alhabra?

by luther blissett Tuesday, Jul. 23, 2002 at 7:24 AM

i think there was a bus crash or explosion. kinda hard to tell from here (Canada) please help!

Report on rense and the imc intl site but not here locally. can anyone confirm or deny this. the local fox website there cannot but maybe someone else saw it on tv.
la times knows nothing. surprise!



Bus Explosion In
Southern CA Covered Up?
7-16-2

Note - Any other information on this would be appreciated. -ed


Dear Mr. Rense,

I visit your site twice a day, and am grateful for the news you provide to your readers. I know you get lots of emails, so I'll cut to the chase...

Today, 7/15/02, at roughly 7:30am, a bus exploded outside my office. I work in the city of Alhambra, about 15 miles east of Los Angeles. The police was quick to act, and I heard a helicopter overhead almost immediately. The strange thing is, I can't find this on CNN or any other news site. I can't even find it on the local news. I'm not blind, and I'm certainly not deaf. My girlfriend who resides in San Diego also mentioned an explosion just yesterday, but it was also not reported in the news. The bus was hauled off immediately; I have not idea if there were casualties or not, but judging from the flames--they were coming out FROM the passenger area--it would be hard not to say there were. I wish I had my camera available, but again, I was at work. Can you look into this, as it's eerie how no one is talking about it. Maybe I'm mistaken, and the L.A. Times will have something to say about it tomorrow. If not, then perhaps there's a media blackout on this episode. Thanks for your time.

Joe

P.S. It was a very LOUD explosion. The windows to my office are sealed, but it was unnerving still. I don't believe gasoline is a very combustible fuel, it burns, but does not explode. My only guess is that it could have been a compressed natural gas bus. Or a bomb.


Comment

From Jerry A. Taylor
7-16-2

Dear Jeff

In the story the writer states that "I don't believe gasoline is a very combustible fuel, it burns, but does not explode." He is dead wrong. Gasoline vapors are highly flammable and can ignite at temperatures as low as -45° C. A single cup of gasoline, when vaporized and ignited, has the explosive power of five sticks of dynamite.

Just wanted to clear up this little misconception.

Sincerely,

Jerry A. Taylor



Comment

From Lance Kenneth Shade Titchkosky
7-17-2

Hi Jeff,

Just a comment on Jerry's comment about how explosive gas is. Your readers might want to take a look at http://intuitor.com/moviephysics/index.html (See the section on 'Flaming Cars')

It basically goes on to say the gasoline can be explosive, but has a very narrow flammable range (meaning there would have to be a near perfect mixture of gasoline vapour to air for an explosion to have the force of "5 sticks of dynamite".

This dept. of energy website http://www.hanford.gov/lessons/sitell/ll02/2002-22.htm has the same information (a gallon of gas could create an explosion equal to that of 14 sticks of dynamite), but goes on to say because of the relatively narrow explosive range it is quite safe.

Lance


Comment From Eric Cardenas
7-18-2

Dear Mr. Rense,

The 7/15/02 bus explosion near LA was covered live on FOX channel 11 KTTV during their morning news by Rob Bernsen, their helicopter reporter. He reported that the bus used natural gas, not gasoline.

Eric

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