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by Steve Grey Sunday, Jan. 13, 2002 at 1:54 AM


The main points of the evidence presented in this article can be quickly summarised in this way.

1) The US airforce was comprehensively "stood down" on the morning of September 11. Routine security measures, normally in place, which may well have been able to prevent the attacks, or reduce their impact, were suspended while the attacks were in progress, and re-instated once they were over.

2) The actions of the President,while the attacks were occurring, indicate that he deliberately avoided taking any action which might have been reasonably expected of a President wanting to protect American citizens and property.

3) Osama Bin Laden was unofficially convicted of the attackswithin a time frame that could not possibly have allowed any intelligence to have been gathered which supported the accustaion.

4) There are reasonable grounds for suspicion that the US attack on Afghanistan was already planned before Sept 11.

5) The USA and Bin Laden are not the enemies they pretend to be.There is a long history of co-operation,and evidence that this is still going on, behind the scenes.

6) There are significant business ties between Bin Laden and senior members of the Bush administration.

7) Revelations of profits made by insider trading relating to the Sept 11 attacks, point to the top levels of US buisiness and the CIA.

8) There are a number of miscellaneous aspects regarding the official stories about Sept 11 which do not fit with known facts, which contradict each other which ask us to defy common sense, and which indicate a pattern of censorship and misinformation.

Some points of the evidence are "provable" with documentation; some are "strongly compelling", some are "circumstantial", some are "speculative" and some of them are simply logical musings and common sense observations. A large volume of evidence has been gathered and published elsewhere in the form of separate articles, relating to different aspects of the issues.

The primary aim of this article is not to present significant new research, but to draw all known evidence together as a summary in a single article. Those who want to examine and explore specific details,and sources should go to the links provided at the end of each section. These links lead to more detailed articles which are fully referenced. Of course, some sources cannot be fully verified, and there is an explanatory note about this towards the end.


The US airforce has a well established set of regulations for dealing with unscheduled aviation activity. Activation of this code does not require executive orders. It is a routine practice to respond to unscheduled aviation activity, by intercepting the problem craft with jet fighters. It is important to realise that interception does not neccesarily imply any intention to shoot the plane down, although it does create the oppotunity for such action if it is deemed neccesary. In the great majority of cases requiring interception, no hostile intention is perceived on the part of the problem craft, and there is not even any thought of shooting the plane down. In these cases,the purposes of interception include helping with communication or navigation difficulties, gathering information about the situation of the troubled craft, a head start on information neccesary for rescue operations, should they become neccesary in the case of the problem craft crashing, and protection of the craft if it is believed that it may be under threat from other hostile craft.

There are numerous example of this. The recent example of the passenger who allegedly tried to blow up a plane by lighting explosives hidden in his shoe, resulted in that plane being escorted by jet fighters.There was never any thought of shooting down that plane.

The golfer Payne Stewart died, when his private plane crashed,after careering across much of the US in an uncontrolled fashion.It is believed that everyone in the plane had died on board, as a result of internal pressurisation failure. Stewart's plane was intercepted and accompanied for much of this flight by jet fighters,once it was known that there was a problem.

The US has a network of airforce bases across the country which are designed to give a reasonable chance of being able to intercept, within a short time, any plane which might require such action. Of course it is not possible to guarentee absolute coverage of every possible scenario at every possible time and place, but the system comes as close to that as can reasonably be expected.

There is incontravertable evidence that on the morning of September 11, this system had been stood down from operation, all across the country, and only resumed after the attacks had finished.

Every one of the hijacked planes should have, and would normally have triggered interception proceedures before it was even apparent that there were hostile intentions. In the cases of the first two planes, it may be possible to argue that the fighters might not have arrived in time to complete interception before the collisions with the WTC, but there is no doubt that in both cases, attempts at interception should have been well under way by the time the collisions took place.There is no excuse for the fact that interceptions were not even attempted. In the case of the next two planes, there is absolutely no excuse for interception not having well and truly taken place before the final results.

The example of the plane which struck the pentagon is particularly spectacular. After it was known that the plane had a problem, it was neverthless able to change course and fly towards Washington, for about 45 minutes, fly past the white house, and crash into the pentagon, with not even any attempt made at interception, when two sqaudrons of fighter aircraft were stationed just 10 miles from it's eventual target. Unless one is prepared to allege collusion, such a scenario is not possible by any stretch of the imagination, even in a situation where nothing else was happening that day.

The sensational addition to the scenario is that this plane took actions which would normally have triggered routine interceptions, after one plane had already crashed into the WTC. Furthermore, it continued to fly, without even any attempt at interception for about another 40 minutes after the second WTC crash had occurred.

A telling comparison: The January 2002 incident,in which a 15 year old boy flew a light plane into the Bank of America building in Tampa, Florida, after unexpectedly taking off from flying school, without authorisation:

According to Sydney's "Daily Telegraph" of Jan 8 2002, the plane was in the air for a total of 9 minutes before the crash.This was enough time for it to be pursued by two jet fighters and and an air force helicopter. They failed to prevent the crash, but they were into action very quickly.

Fact: In the only attack on the US mainland, with Air Force defense fighters on permanent ready ten minutes away, with at least 40 minutes

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