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The Mossad and the American Shadow Government

by see material Monday, Dec. 24, 2001 at 5:31 AM

America hijacked!! Due to poor education, disinformation, treachery, and apathy!











national journal: "The attacks on New York and Washington <br><br> were an Israeli-engineered attempt at a coup against the government of the <br><br> United States*"







"The attacks on New York and Washington

were an Israeli-engineered attempt at a coup against the government of the

United States*"



























General  Hamid Gul





General  Hameed Gul was director general of

the Pakistani Intelligence Services ISI (Inter-Services Intelligence) and a

close ally of America, working hand in hand with the American CIA. Gul was also a great supporter of the

"American Way Of Life" and Western democracy.
General Gul

turned against America for betrayal and countless broken promises.



He is, "still today very influential in

Pakistan" according to the German daily DIE WELT (Sep. 28, 2001, p. 7).



RAWALPINDI, Pakistan -- The retired Pakistani general who

is closest to the Taliban and Osama bin Laden contends the Sept. 11 terrorist

attacks on New York City and Washington were the work of renegade U.S. Air

Force elements working with the Israelis. Gen. Hameed Gul led

Pakistan's Inter Services Intelligence during the war against the Soviet

occupation of Afghanistan. Gul serves as an adviser to Pakistan's extremist

religious political parties, which oppose their government's decision to

support the United States in any action against Afghanistan's Taliban regime.

Gul contends bin Laden had nothing to do with the terrorist attacks on New

York and Washington, saying instead that they were the work of the Mossad, the

Israeli intelligence service -- a version of events that has been endorsed by

Islamic fundamentalist clerics and is widely accepted by Muslims throughout

the Arab world.



Here is the transcript of the exclusive interview Gul gave

to Arnaud de Borchgrave, United Press International editor at large:



*NEWSWEEK WEB EXCLUSIVE, Sep.

14, 2001

















Transcript:

UPI United Press International, Sep. 26, 2001 interviews General Gul:










































"The

attacks against the twin towers started at 8:45 a.m. and four

flights are diverted from their assigned air space and no air

traffic controller sounds the alarm. And no Air Force jets

scramble until 10 a.m. That also smacks of a small scale Air

Force rebellion, a coup against the Pentagon perhaps? Radars are

jammed, transponders fail. No IFF -- friend or foe

identification -- challenge. In Pakistan, if there is no

response to IFF, jets are instantly scrambled and the aircraft

is shot down with no further questions asked. This was clearly

an inside job. Bush was afraid and rushed to the shelter of a

nuclear bunker. He clearly feared a nuclear situation. Who could

that have been? Will that also be hushed up in the

investigation, like the Warren report after the Kennedy

assassination?"





De Borchgrave: So who did Black Sept. 11?



Gul: Mossad

and its accomplices.
The U.S. spends billion a year on

its 11 intelligence agencies. That's 0 billion in 10 years. Yet the

Bush Administration says it was taken by surprise. I don't believe it.

Within 10 minutes of the second twin tower being hit in the World Trade

Center CNN said Osama bin Laden had done it. That was a planned piece of

disinformation by the real perpetrators. It created an instant mindset

and put public opinion into a trance, which prevented even intelligent

people from thinking for themselves.



Q: So you're already convinced bin Laden

didn't do it?



A: I know bin Laden and his associates. I've

been with them here, in Europe and the Middle East. They are graduates

of the best universities and are highly intelligent with impressive

degrees and speak impeccable English. These are people who have

rediscovered fundamental Islamic values. Many come from the Gulf

countries where ruling royal families have generated hatred by the way

they flout divine law, wasting billions on gratifying their whims,

jetting around in large private jets by themselves, and sailing the

Mediterranean in big private boats for weeks on end. Osama's best

recruits come from feudal areas that are U.S. protectorates and where

millions of poor people are seeking human dignity. I have even visited a

Christian convent school in Murree, 60 miles from here, where my

13-year-old daughter is studying. The young girls there have told me

Osama is their hero. Osama's followers identify with Mujahideen freedom

fighters wherever they are defending Islam and its values.



Q: So what makes you think Osama wasn't behind

Sept. 11?



A: From a cave inside a mountain or a

peasant's hovel? Let's be serious. Osama inspires countless millions by

standing up for Islam against American and Israeli imperialism. He

doesn't have the means for such a sophisticated operation.



Q: Why Mossad?



A: Mossad and its American associates are the

obvious culprits. Who benefits from the crime? The attacks against

the twin towers started at 8:45 a.m. and four flights are diverted from

their assigned air space and no air traffic controller sounds the alarm.

And no Air Force jets scramble until 10 a.m. That also smacks of a small

scale Air Force rebellion, a coup against the Pentagon perhaps? Radars

are jammed, transponders fail. No IFF -- friend or foe identification --

challenge. In Pakistan, if there is no response to IFF, jets are

instantly scrambled and the aircraft is shot down with no further

questions asked. This was clearly an inside job. Bush was afraid and

rushed to the shelter of a nuclear bunker. He clearly feared a nuclear

situation. Who could that have been? Will that also be hushed up in the

investigation, like the Warren report after the Kennedy assassination?



Q: At this point, someone might be asking what

you've been smoking. What is Israel's interest in such a monstrous plot,

which, of course, no one believes except Islamist extremists who

concocted this piece of disinformation in the first place, presumably to

detract from the real culprits?



A: Jews never agreed to Bush 41 (George H.W.

Bush, the 41st president) or 43 (his son George W. Bush, the 43rd

president). They made sure Bush senior didn't get a second term. His

land-for-peace pressure in Palestine didn't suit Israel.
They were

also against the young Bush because he was considered too close to oil

interests and the Gulf countries. Bush senior and Jim Baker had raised

0 million for Bush junior, much of it from Mideast sources or their

American go-betweens. Bush 41 and Baker, as private citizens, had

also facilitated the new strategic relationship between Saudi Arabia and

Iran. I have this from sources in both countries. So clearly the

prospect of a Bush 43 was a

potential danger to Israel.



Jews were stunned by the way Bush stole the

election in Florida. They had put big money on Al Gore. Israel has given

its imperialist guardian parent opportunities to turn disaster into a

pretext for imposing an all-encompassing military, political and

economic agenda to further the cause of global capitalism.
While

Colin Powell is cautious and others are reckless and want to make up for

their failure to defeat Saddam Hussein in the Gulf War 10 years ago, the

global agenda is the same.



Israel

knows it has a short shelf-life before it is overwhelmed by

demographics. It is a state that was born in terrorism that terrorized

Palestinians into the exile of refugee camps, where they have now

subsisted in squalid refugee camps, and is now very much afraid of

Pakistan's nuclear capability.



Israel has now handed the Bush family the opportunity

it has been waiting for to consolidate America's imperial grip on the

Gulf and acquire control of the Caspian basin by extending its military

presence in Central Asia. Bush conveniently overlooks -- or is not told

-- the fact that Islamic fundamentalists got their big boost in the

modern age as CIA assets in the covert campaign I was also involved with

to force the Soviets out of Afghanistan.
Bush senior was vice

president during that entire campaign. And no sooner did he become

president on Jan. 20, 1989, than he summoned an inter-agency

intelligence meeting and issued an order, among several others, to clip

the wings of ISI (Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence) that had been

coordinating the entire operation in Afghanistan. I know this firsthand

as I was DGISI at the time (director general, ISI).



Q: So how do you read U.S. strategy in

Pakistan?



A: The destabilization of Pakistan is part

of the U.S. plan because it is a Muslim nuclear state.
The U.S.

wants to isolate Pakistan from China as part of its containment policy.

President Nixon's book "The Real War" said China would be the

superpower of the 21st Century. The U.S. is also creating hostility

between Pakistan and Afghanistan, two Muslim states to reverse the

perception that the Islamic world now has its own nuclear weapons. Bush

43 doesn't realize he is being manipulated by people who understand

geopolitics. He is not leading but being led. All he can do is think

in terms of the wanted-dead-or-alive culture, which is how Hollywood

conditions the masses to think and act.



All summer long we heard about America's shrinking

surplus and that the Pentagon would not have sufficient funds to

modernize for the 21st century.
And now, all of a sudden, the

Pentagon can get what it wants without any Democratic Party opposition. How

very convenient! Even your

cherished civil liberties can now be abridged with impunity to protect

the expansion of the hegemony of transnational capitalism.


There is now a new excuse to crush anti-globalization protests.



Bush 43 follows Bush 41. Iraq was baited into the

Kuwaiti trap when the U.S. told Saddam it was not interested in his

inter-Arab squabbles.
Two days later, he moved into Kuwait, which

was an Iraqi province anyway before the British Empire decreed

otherwise. Roosevelt baited the Pearl Harbor trap for the Japanese

empire, which provided the pretext for entering World War II.



And now

the Israelis have given the U.S. the pretext for further expansion into

an area that will be critical in the next 25 years - the Caspian basin.



Q: Were you a fundamentalist in the days of

the war against the Soviets in Afghanistan when you worked closely with

the CIA?



A: Not as much as I am today.



Q: What turned you against America?



A: Betrayals and broken promises and what was

done to my army career.



Q: And what was that?



A: President Ishaq Khan, who succeeded Zia

ul-Haq after his plane was blown out of the sky, wanted to appoint me

chief of staff, the highest position in the Pakistani army. The U.S.,

which by then had clipped ISI's wings, also blocked my promotion by

informing the president I was unacceptable. So I was moved to a corps

commander position. As ISI

director, I held the whole Mujahideen movement in the palm of my hands.

We were all pro-American. But then America left us in the lurch and

everything went to pieces, including Afghanistan.



The U.S. pushed for a broad-based Afghan government

of seven factions and then waved goodbye. Even in the best of

democracies, a broad-based coalition does not work. So we quickly had

seven jokers in Kabul interested in only one thing - jockeying for

power. The gunplay quickly followed, which led to the creation of

Taliban, the students of the original Mujahideen, who decided to put an

end to it.



Q: What happened to the 1,000 shoulder-fired

Stinger anti-aircraft missiles that were supplied by president Reagan in

1986 and 87 to the Mujahideen, and that literally grounded the Soviet

air force?



A: After the Soviets pulled out, the CIA

allocated million to try to buy them back. This just drove the black

market price up for one Stinger from 0,000 to 0,000. The Taliban

still have about 250 of them for the kind of situation they face today

against U.S. aircraft.



Q: Is the U.S. now your enemy?



A: Is the U.S. national interest in

contradiction with the Muslim world? The U.S. needs oil, as do its

European allies. You have between 6 and 8 million American Muslims and

their ranks are growing. About the same number in Europe. Israel aside,

we are America's natural allies. Prof. Sam Huntington in his "Clash

of Civilizations" puts Confucius and Judeo-Christians in one

corner, and us in the other. His prescription is wrong but is being

adopted by Bush 43 who has

now put 60 countries on his hit list. This is the diabolical school that

wants to launch an anti-Muslim "crusade." Muslims understood

what Bush meant when he used that word.



We need a meeting, not a clash, of civilizations. We

are on the brink of disaster. It is time to pull back from the brink and

reassess before we blow ourselves up. The purpose of Islam is service to

humanity. The time for like-minded people to have a meeting of the minds

is now.



Q: But you are against democracy, so how can

there be a meeting of the minds?



A: Democracy

does not work.
Politicians are constantly thinking of their next

election, not the public good, which means, at best, constantly shading

the truth to hide it from their constituents.
Their

pronouncements are laced with lies and the voters are lulled or gulled

into believing utter nonsense.
The Koran says call a spade a

spade. It is the supreme law and tells right from wrong. There is no

notion of "my country right or wrong" under divine law. The

creator's will predominates. All if subservient to Allah's will and

adherence to a set of basic, fundamental values.



Q: So what kind of a system are you

advocating?



A: The world needs a post-modern state system.

Right now, the nation-state and round the clock satellite TV lead people

to imitate America's way of life. Which is mathematically impossible. You

have 4 percent of the world's population consuming 32 percent of the

world's resources.
The creator through Prophet Mohammed said

equal distribution. Capitalism is the negation of the creator's will. It

leads to imperialism and unilateralism.



Q: So what does this post-modern state system

look like?



A: A global village under divine order, or we

will have global bloodshed until good triumphs over evil. Islam

encapsulates all the principal religions and what was handed down 1,400

years ago was the normal evolutionary sequel to Judaism and

Christianity. The prophet's last sermon was a universal document of

human rights for everyone that surpasses everything that came since,

including America's declaration of independence and the U.N. Charter of

universal rights. If you superimpose true secular values on true Islamic

values, there is no difference. So surely divine law should supersede

man-made law. Islam is egalitarian, tolerant and progressive. It is the

wave of the future.



Q: Marxism also believed that the nation-state

would eventually wither away.



A: Socialism jumped the rails when it was

co-opted by the imperialist Soviet state. Islam believes in dynamism,

Christianity stands for static statism. The pope in all his

pronouncements has expressed a dogmatic attachment to the status quo.

Why are so many black Americans converting to Islam? Because they are

looking for true equality which they cannot find under capitalism. Allah

has no gender, neither male nor female. Islam has no indirect taxation

in an interest-free economy. Usury

was a Jewish concept.



Q: Is Iran your model?



A: There isn't a single true Islamic state in

the world today. Iran has moved forward from its 1979 revolution, but I

am not sure whether it's the right direction.



Q: And Taliban?



A: They represent Islam in its purest form so

far. It's a clean sheet. And they were also moving in the right

direction when this crisis was cooked up by the U.S. Until Sept. 11,

they had perfect law and order with no formal police force, only traffic

cops without sidearms. Now, in less than two weeks, they have mobilized

some 300,000 volunteers to fight American and British invaders if they

come.



Q: And your reaction to U.S. demands on

Pakistan?



A: If Pakistan gives the U.S. base rights we

will have a national upheaval. And if the U.S. attacks Afghanistan,

there will be a call -- a fatwa -- for a general jihad. All borders will

then disappear and it will be a no-holds-barred Islamic uprising against

Israel and American imperialism. Pakistan will be engulfed in the

firestorm. So I can only hope that cooler heads will prevail in

Washington.



Q: What about the other U.S. demands?



A: Overflight rights are meaningless since the

U.S. violates air space daily all over the world. As for intelligence

sharing with ISI, you can't even catch your own terrorists. And what ISI

gives you will be of marginal value anyway.



Q: President (Pervez) Musharraf has made

strong statements supporting the U.S.



A: He was my student in the army. He is a good

man, but he doesn't understand Islam. The army will never fight the

masses. If push comes to shove, Musharraf will say no to the Americans

rather than turn against the people.
He is not just facing a handful

of angry people. By his own admission, it's 10 percent to 15 percent of

the population, or at least 10 million people willing to fight. For

openers, they would close the port of Karachi. A country cannot breathe

without lungs.



Q: Back to Osama's terrorist network. Who was

behind the bombing of the U.S. Embassies in Tanzania and Kenya?



A: Mossad is strong in both countries.

Remember the Israeli operation to free hostages in Entebbe (Uganda)?

Both Kenya and Tanzania were part of the logistical tail. A so-called

associate of Osama was framed at Karachi airport. The incidents took

place on Aug. 8, 1999, and on the 10th a short, clean-shaven man

disembarks at Karachi airport and presents the passport of a bearded

man. Not your passport, he was told. He then tries to bribe the clerk

with 200 rupees. A ludicrously small sum given the circumstances. The

clerk says no and turns him in and he starts singing right away.
Not

plausible. Osama has sworn to me on the Koran it was not him and he is

truthful to a fault. Pious Muslims do not kill innocent civilians who

included many Muslim victims. The passport must have been switched

while the man was asleep on the plane in what has all the earmarks of a

Mossad operation. For 10 years, the Mujahideen fought the Soviets in

Afghanistan and not a single Soviet embassy was touched anywhere in the

world. So this could not have been Osama's followers.



Q: What if bin Laden has been lying to you and

is guilty. Is that inconceivable?



A: If Taliban are

given irrefutable evidence of his guilt, I am in favor of a fair trial.


In America, one is entitled to a jury of peers. But he has no American

peers. The Taliban would not object, in the event of a prima face case,

to an international Islamic court meeting in The Hague. They

would turn extradite Osama to the Netherlands.



















End

of transcript: UPI United Press International, Sep. 26, 2001, Interview

with General Gul












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