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An Afternoon with Steven Greer

by Brian Lynch Monday, Oct. 08, 2001 at 1:44 AM

See DISCLOSURE & 9/11 or go to www.disclosureproject.org

AN AFTERNOON WITH STEVEN GREER

September 9, 2001

"The Disclosure Project" arrived in Vancouver, Canada on Sunday, September 9, 2001. It was an historic visit. Vancouver was their first stop beyond the continental United States, their first stop in Canada, and the beginning of their movement out into the world. Dr. Greer intends them to visit Vancouver annually.

"The Disclosure Project" was held at Simon Fraser University, immediately east of the City of Vancouver. Its beautiful, modern campus perches on the top of a low mountain, overlooking the City yet close to the stars, and seemed to us a perfect venue for this special presentation about UFOs and space. 450 people attended the 5-hour session that day, and what struck us most was the range of their ages, from teens to great-grandparents.

From the moment the host introduced himself, promptly at 1:30, the crowded room was totally silent, and we all sat, spellbound by the information that swirled about us. First, a 2-hour video was shown that included astonishing accounts from courageous retired military, government and aerospace personnel. All of these witnesses possessed documented evidence of sightings and government cover-ups that, had it been revealed, could have ruined their reputations and destroyed their careers.

After a brief, 20-minute break, Steven Greer took the stage and began his presentation. "I am just a country doctor from Virginia who could not walk away from the truth," he began. With those words, he captured our minds and our hearts, as did Alfred Webre and Carol Rosin, who followed him in turn.

"The Disclosure Project" was the shortest long afternoon we ever spent. It was full of anger and frustration at the stubborn and shortsighted governments who conspire to conceal the existence of UFOs and plan to arm space with high-tech weaponry. But it was also full of humor and hope, for what Steven Greer and his associates have already accomplished, and for what we, their audiences, can do to further their mission.

Those of us from the Vancouver PAG group who attended "The Disclosure Project" were fascinated by how closely its information dovetailed with Sheldan's. They are like two sides of the same coin.

Below are a few items from our notes. They are in random order and point form. (The notes were taken in a darkened theatre so you may find some of the information fragmented.)

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Notes taken from the Videotape:



Astronaut Gordon Cooper was shown proof before the lunar landing that there are artificial structures on the moon, built before the US arrived. There is a base on the back side of the moon containing massive structures, 1/2 mile in size, some with reflective surfaces.

ET Retrieval

There have been at least two dozen. 3 or 5 bodies were retrieved from Roswell; 1 was partially alive when found. Eisenhower's fear for the decentralization of UFO research: "It's not going to be in the best hands".

Ship Sighting: Big; teardrop-shaped; purplish-green; colour shifted; deep bass hum; 'fish-gill' fence - for propulsion

UFO at sighting at Fort Dix. An ET was shot & wounded there. It headed for McGuire Air Force Base, where it died.

Someone who saw ET's said, "They are living, breathing creatures, as mortal as you and I."

Notes taken from Dr. Steven Greer's Talk:

Government Secrecy

Compartmentalization keeps UFO info secret from even those with adequate clearance. It's beyond a "need to know". Fewer than 50 people in the intelligence community are aware of UFO info. Their greatest weapon is this compartmentalization within government that debunks the truth. It extends even to the President - mentioned Carter, specifically. There are 38 levels above 'Top Secret': highest level is 'Cosmic'.

1993: How do we disclose what we don't have access to? Even the US President was denied access; even sitting CIA Directors who knew UFO's existed were denied access by compartmentalization.

Werner von Braun knew that space weaponry was being planned decades ago, and that an ET threat would be used to justify weapons in space. In his last years, he fought against space weapons.

According to Von Braun's sequence of rationalization, the Americans would use a progressive chain of enemies: Russians----terrorists----Third World crazies----asteroids----extraterrestrials to justify their use of space weaponry. Von Braun said that the rationales would accelerate until they would suddenly be a 'fait accompli'.

A few people are playing a costly game of weapons for their own power. That game is based in the U.S.

Greer: Intimidation of personnel continues to maintain secrecy. People are threatened with discreditation; with court martial; and with transfer to the Far North ("Alaska"). On the video, Daniel Salter mentioned 3 levels of intimidation. One is ridicule. The ultimate threat: "You will be erased". He says that, "these people are evil".

Why the secrecy?

Greer: From the '30's to the '50's, governments felt that society was unprepared, psychologically, religiously and culturally. That argument is no longer relevant. Secrecy evolved to protect the economic order and special interests, such as gasoline-based and propulsion-based energies. We now have technologies that will supersede these energies.

"If we're the only ones in the universe, God sure has bad judgment."

A member of the US Congress told Greer, "the fact that you are here [in his office] means that time is short".

Ancient Chinese saying: "Unless we change directions, we will end up where we are going".

Greer calls the move toward space weaponry "2001: A Space Idiocy".

The internal combustion engine will give us a "Mad Max" scenario by the end of this decade. We have not needed the internal combustion engine since 1955.

"The Disclosure Project" is about choosing a good future for humanity.

In our lifetime, we have begun to commit "planet-icide".

We need a rapprochement between the 1st and the 3rd Worlds. The good news is that if we disclose facts and disseminate technologies for peaceful purposes and enter space, forswearing violence there, we can thus create an abundant civilization for the next generations.

Greer approached high-level people. Eight years later, he is here. In spite of it all, he has no regrets. He asks himself the question: 'Is this the right thing to do?' When the answer is 'yes', he acts and is content.

"The Campaign for Disclosure has been launched and we will persist until our goals are met."

The people of Earth deserve to know the truth. We must get the word out, empower ourselves. There is a universal flow, but we must put ourselves in its way. Without thought of personal gain, we must 'look beyond to 20 generations' (Cherokee saying) and now, even more, to 20 million generations.

The most discouraging thing is that people in high places pass the buck. He met with people, even the head of NASA's Commission to Planet Earth, who wouldn't help because of their careers.

We must act so that they [our leaders] will follow. "Courage in Washington DC is the rarest of all commodities".

Government secrecy is a serious problem. A rogue secret government has perverted government agendas for the US and Canada.

If things don't change, we are headed toward an increased erosion of our human rights.

Greer met with Lawrence Rockefeller. Also met with Mrs. Boutros-Gali at U.N., who told him: "It's too dangerous for Boutros".

We must encourage our leaders to call for hearings and investigations. They need the support of a mass call from the people so that they can act.

The human race will endure. We have created dysfunction on earth. Cosmic co-dependency keeps us from recognizing our own powers to make these changes.

ETs are not hostile; otherwise we would be long gone. Greer says that a cosmic quarantine is going on until we lose our weapons of mass destruction.

Notes taken from Dr. Alfred Webre'sTalk:

Part of the Carter White House 'ET Research Studies Project' that was cancelled.

Alfred lives in Vancouver.

Jimmy Carter was a UFO contactee in 1969 in Georgia. As a result of this encounter, his consciousness was raised.

As a campaign promise, Carter promised to announce UFO existence. The Carter White House started out pro-UFO - Ham Jordan, Jody Powell, etc - but, by June 1977, their plans had all been shut down by secrecy. (Webre was told that he would lose his contract if he didn't back off.)

2001 is a year of breakthroughs. "The Disclosure Project" is a breakthrough, because people are coming forward to speak their truths. US Congressman Dennis Kucinich will introduce a bill to ban space-based weapons on October 2. This is a breakthrough, too. On July 26, John Manley, Canada's Foreign Minister, announced Canada's initiative to ban space-based weapons. Two Canadian Government senior defense critics have contacted "The Disclosure Project" to assist in banning space-based weapons and in alien disclosure.

Webre: "The Universe is highly populated, highly regulated and beneficent."

Russia, China and now Canada, are all beginning to safeguard outer space. The war machine is an empty shell that we can transform. 500 well-placed faxes can change the world.

Notes taken from Dr. Carol Rosin's Talk:

Website: www.peaceinspace.com

Ex-spokesperson for Werner Von Braun

Dedicated to keep space free of weapons and safe

She is in service to a vision of life on earth and in space

'Mission Possible' is her action plan

Rosin started as 6th Grade science teacher. As the result of her 'spaceship earth' teaching unit, she met Werner Von Braun, who told her to report to work with him at Fairchild 3 weeks later. He taught her who the players were for weapons in space.

She phoned Saddam Hussein from her kitchen to ask why he was lighting oil wells on fire.

"We are all living under a canopy of lies." We know the truth, and are looking for people who are reachable.

Use websites as a base for communications.

Rosin focuses on space-based weapons.

"None of them are hostile", she says of ET's.



"The Disclosure Project" on May 9, 2001 was the largest press conference ever held at the US Press Club. "TDP" is careful to highlight only credible people and issues. "TDP" is activating a global movement to transform the entire weapons industry and its mindset. Given weapons' potential for devastation, that movement is imperative. (In the last

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