Odigo says workers were warned of attack By Yuval Dror Odigo, the instant messaging service, says that two of its workers received messages two hours before the Twin Towers attack on September 11 predicting the attack would happen, and the company has been cooperating with Israeli and American law enforcement, including the FBI, in trying to find the original sender of the message predicting the attack.

Micha Macover, CEO of the company, said the two workers received the messages and immediately after the terror attack informed the company's management, which immediately contacted the Israeli security services, which brought in the FBI. "I have no idea why the message was sent to these two workers, who don't know the sender. It may just have been someone who was joking and turned out they accidentally got it right. And I don't know if our information was useful in any of the arrests the FBI has made," said Macover.

Odigo is a U.S.-based company whose headquarters are in New York, with offices in Herzliya. As an instant messaging service, Odigo users are not limited to sending messages only to people on their "buddy" list, as is the case with ICQ, the other well-known Israeli instant messaging application.

Odigo usually zealously protects the privacy of its registered users, said Macover, but in this case the company took the initiative to provide the law enforcement services with the originating Internet Presence address of the message, so the FBI could track down the Internet Service Provider, and the actual sender of the original message.

"Watch your sources" writes: "Paul H. Rosenberg is quite disbelieving that Israel's Mossad shared foreknowledge with the US government prior to the events on September 11, 2001."

No. I never said that. I was responding to quite a different implication--that the Mossad knew and did nothing. You've got to learn to keep your lies straight, dude.

BTW, the story you're quoting here does nothing to substantiate EITHER version. The Mossad wasn't contacted until after the bombing according to this story.

The underlying fallacy here is making the leap from "something funny happend" to "something sinister was behind it all." Since funny things happen all the time, this allows one to conclude that something sinister is behind everything. "Booth shot Lincoln in a theater and hid in a warehouse, Oswald shot Kennedy in a warehouse and hid in a theater." That kind of thing. It's great when you're like, 13 and killing time till girls start to notice you're even on the same planet.

If we are to believe what Paul H. Rosenberg writes (his interpretation of the news can be fascinating and truthful at times), the Mossad is an innocent and so is the FBI/CIA in this tragedy.

Sorry, I'm not going to re-cite the news blasts of evidentiary claims of government agencies around the world sharing foreknowledge of the tragedy and their attempts at covering it up. The nice thing about the internet is that IP addresses don't inject the self-congratualtory back-patting accolades that Mr Rosenberg seems to thrive on.

IP addresses do not lie.

As for Mr Rosenberg's repeated denials that Israelis were detained and that Israelis were fore-warned about the tragedy,the Ha'aretz news agency begs to differ.

Though having a criminal conspiracy between Israel, Britain, France, and the US may never be able to proven beyond a shadow of a doubt in a War Crimes Tribunal, the preponderance of existing, damning evidence is enough to cast a long shadow over the legitimacy of pronouncements and courses of reaction proposed by the US. Serious investigation is called for and the results thereof very well may cause the folding of all four governments at the end of the day.

I don't know what Mr. Rosenberg thinks that he is trying to protect. Maybe Mr. Rosenberg is or has been an agent of one or the other organization.

We need to be striving for the Truth in these matters - not repelling the notion of wrong-doing. If we are to have a future on this planet, Mr. Rosenberg, we must hold those political figures accountable for their actions.

There are perhaps drugs you can take to stabilize your wild swings of logic. I read and re-read Paul's post and no where does he propose innocence on behalf of secret service agencies. No where. Your assertion that Paul can be read no other way is utterly false. Just because you disagree with him is not a foundation for presuming he is pro-CIA!?!?

True Paul does not ascribe to the secret agencies the extent of a conspiracy you imagine, but neither is there any credible evidence for such. You are a discredit to those who sincerely wish to call the agency into question when you promote unfounded assertions. Lord knows the CIA and other agencies are responsible for MORE than enough verifiable evil to sustain our critique to victory, but then folks like you come along and muddy the waters. I would prefer to rest my critique on the stuff we know, the conjecture only weakens our case (disinformation?).

Your attack against Paul is yet another example of your inability to apply a logical analysis to anything you read. Do you ever wonder why only a few people can follow your arguments? It is not because you are obtuse or secretly brilliant or divinely inspired - it is because you twist the truth to align itself with your bigotry or paranoia and most people are not willing to go there with you. Modern science can do wonders for the likes of you and as much as I distrust modern science I feel we have to acknowledge that any attempt to reason with you is bound to failure.

Besides wanting to engage in your personal diatribe and interjecting your personality between very well defined issues which Rosenberg and myself are discussing, what are you bringing to the table besides obfuscation and warp?

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Be that as it may, I'll refer to Mr. Rosenberg as the third person here.

It would appear that Mr. Rosenberg just does not want to speak for himself.

Here's how Mr. Rosenberg is widely perceived:

1) Israel cannot be at blame in whole or in part for the tragedy.

2) The Peace Movement has too much baggage. Better to call it the Justice Movement.

3) Anti-Semitic must be anti-Jewish. Modern-day Israelis are not Semites. Using the term Anti-Semitic (in a distorted derivation) is justified to rationalize the US proxy use of Israel, the untold suffering of Humanity, the inciting of Islamic jihad, and the resulting blow-back of US policy which contributed to the tragedy.

Mr Rosenberg's charges of rumor-mongering were answered with the citations from the Ha'aretz news service.

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George Washington warned the young Republic to steer clear of meddling in the affairs of other nations.

Benjamin Franklin said that those willing to give up a little Freedom to gain some Security will lose both.

Now with a deranged cowboy in control manipulating the US public into an Orwellian authoritarian garrison-Police State, for the sake of Humanity, Mr Rosenberg needs to ask 'What got us here' and most importantly 'Why'.

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