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The awesome cruelty of a doomed people

by by Robert Fisk Friday, Sep. 14, 2001 at 9:05 PM

Some of us warned of "the explosion to come''. But we never dreamed this nightmare.

The awesome cruelty of a doomed people

By Robert Fisk

So it has come to this. The entire modern history of the Middle East - the collapse of the Ottoman empire, the Balfour declaration, Lawrence of Arabia's lies, the Arab revolt, the foundation of the state of Israel, four Arab-Israeli wars and the 34 years of Israel's brutal occupation of Arab land - all erased within hours as those who claim to represent a crushed, humiliated population struck back with the wickedness and awesome cruelty of a doomed people. Is it fair - is it moral - to write this so soon, without proof, without a shred of evidence, when the last act of barbarism in Oklahoma turned out to be the work of home-grown Americans? I fear it is. America is at war and, unless I am grotesquely mistaken, many thousands more are now scheduled to die in the Middle East, perhaps in America too. Some of us warned of "the explosion to come''. But we never dreamed this nightmare.

And yes, Osama bin Laden comes to mind, his money, his theology, his frightening dedication to destroy American power. I have sat in front of bin Laden as he described how his men helped to destroy the Russian army

in Afghanistan and thus the Soviet Union. Their boundless confidence allowed them to declare war on America. But this is not the war of democracy vs terror that the world will be asked to believe in the coming hours and days. It is also about American missiles smashing into Palestinian homes and US helicopters firing missiles into a Lebanese

ambulance in 1996 and American shells crashing into a village called Qana a few days later and about a Lebanese militia - paid and uniformed by America's Israeli ally - hacking and raping and murdering their way through refugee camps.

No, there is no doubting the utter, indescribable evil of what has happened in the United States. That Palestinians could celebrate the massacre of 20,000, perhaps 35,000 innocent people is not only a symbol of their despair but of their political immaturity, of their failure to grasp what they had always been accusing their Israeli enemies of doing: acting disproportionately. But we were warned. All the years of rhetoric, all the promises to strike at the heart of America, to cut off the head of "the American snake'' we took for empty threats. How could a backward, conservative, undemocratic and corrupt group of regimes and small, violent organizations fulfil such preposterous promises? Now we know.

And in the hours that followed yesterday's annihilation, I began to remember those other extraordinary, unbelievable assaults upon the US and its allies, miniature now by comparison with yesterdays' casualties. Did not the suicide bombers who killed 241 American servicemen and almost 100 french paratroops in Beirut on 23 October 1983, time their attacks with unthinkable precision?

It was just 7 seconds between the Marine bombing and the destruction of the French three miles away. Then there were the attacks on US bases in Saudi Arabia, and last year's attempt - almost successful it now turns out - to sink the USS Cole in Aiden. And then how easy was our failure to recognize the new weapon of the Middle East which neither Americans or any other Westerners could equal: the despair-driven, desperate suicide bomber.

All America's power, wealth - and arrogance, the Arabs will be saying - could not defend the greatest power the world has ever known from this destruction.

For journalists, even those who have literally walked through the blood of the Middle East, words dry up here. Awesome, terrible, unspeakable, unforgivable; in the coming days, these words will become water in the desert. And there will be, naturally and inevitably, and quite immorally, an attempt to obscure the historical wrongs and the blood and the injustices that lie behind yesterday's firestorms. We will be told about "mindless terrorism'', the "mindless" bit being essential if we are not to realise how hated America has become in the land of the birth of three great religions.

Ask an Arab how he responds to 20 or 30 thousand innocent deaths and he or she will respond as good and decent people should, that it is an unspeakable crime. But they will ask why we did not use such words about

the sanctions that have destroyed the lives of perhaps half a million children in Iraq, why we did not rage about the 17,500 civilians killed in Israel's 1982 invasion of Lebanon, why we allowed one nation in the Middle East to ignore UN Security Council resolutions but bombed and sanctioned all others who did. And those basic reasons why the Middle East caught fire last September - the Israeli occupation of Arab land, the dispossession of Palestinians, the bombardments and state sponsored executions, the Israeli tortures ... all these must be obscured lest they provide the smallest fractional reason for yesterday's mass savagery.

No, Israel was not to blame - that we can be sure that Saddam Hussein and the other grotesque dictators will claim so - but the malign influence of history and our share in its burden must surely stand in the dark with the suicide bombers. Our broken promises, perhaps even our destruction of the Ottoman Empire, led inevitably to this tragedy. America has bankrolled Israel's wars for so many years that it believed this would be cost-free. No longer so. It would be an act of extraordinary courage and wisdom if the United States was to pause for a moment and reflect upon its role in the world, the indifference of its government to the suffering of Arabs, the indolence of its current president.

But of course, the United States will want to strike back against "world terror'', who can blame them? Indeed, who could ever point the finger at Americans now for using that pejorative and sometimes racist word "terrorism''? There will be those swift to condemn any suggestion that we should look for real historical reasons for an act of violence on this world-war scale. But unless we do so, then we are facing a conflict the like of which we have not seen since Hitler's death and the surrender of Japan. Korea, Vietnam, is beginning to fade away in comparison.

Eight years ago, I helped to make a television series that tried to explain why so many Muslims had come to hate the West. Last night, I remembered some of those Muslims in that film, their families burnt by American-made bombs and weapons. They talked about how no one would help them but God. Theology vs technology, the suicide bomber against the nuclear power. Now we have learnt what this means.

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Wow

by Maotzu Friday, Sep. 14, 2001 at 10:11 PM

Very good, and also too bad

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Wait, there's more...

by alex dobuzinskis Saturday, Sep. 15, 2001 at 4:58 PM
adobuzin@hotmail.com

Your analysis is very well written and I appreciate what you say, but there are some things that I would like to add. America and Israel are allies because they are both states that were built out of a belief in manifest destiny. The early American settlers said that they were settling the "new canaan," they described themselves quite falsely as a kind of new Israel and they suscribed to a view of the world that said the land of America should belong to them because God intended it that way. De Tocqeville writes about this when he said that Americans had no reason but to think that a land with such "natural harbors" and great resources seemed to early Americans to be a gift from God because it seemed like it only needed an industrious people to step in and develop it. Anyone looking at recent history in the Middle-East has to look at the conquest of Native land by the United States, and some Israelis openly compare what they are doing to what Americans did in settling the West. The American conquest of Native land started with the original thirteen colonies but really got under way when President Jefferson broke the constitution in 1805 with the Louisiana Purchase, when he acquired rights to basically most of what is now the U.S. from Napoleon.Through from the Louisianna Purchase to the eventual spreading of the country to Hawaii, Americans were doing what De Tocqueville talked about when he wrote (excuse my paraphrase) "What other reason was there but for Americans to think that the land was put there for them to develop."

Israel is also a contry that owes a lot to a the belief in manifest destiny. Just once, I'd like to see it openly discussed in mainstream political discourse that a major motivation for the settlement drive in Israel can be found in Genesis 15 when in the old testament, God makes a promise to Abraham in Genesis 15 that the borders of his future country will stretch all the way from the "Nile to the Euphrates." Just once I'd like this to be mentioned in mainstream discourse, it is a huge contrast with the modern state of Israel, which is tiny and one of the most densely packed, urbanized areas of the world. But it has a huge role in settlement and the conflict in the middle-east. I've been to Israel and I saw how divided the country is, the only unity that exists there exists because there is a common ennemy to fight, just as the same thing is happening in the United States right now. If there could be some reconciliation between Orthodox and secular Israelis maybe there wouldn't be a continual war with the Palistinians.

First of all, you don't once suggest that Arab states are also to blame for this. It's not one-sided. Billions of dollars were pumped into Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Iraq to buy oil, and yet the people running those states never distributed the money equally. It is a sign of political immaturity that Arabs rejoice about this, but the first step to reaching political maturity is to take responsibility for your own actions.

If you are looking for a historical start to all of this, my best suggestion is that you read Chief Seattle's "Speech to the American people." We may be heading for a religious war, but it's happened before in America and if you read the speech you will see that the conquest of Native land was a religious war as well. It is an absolutely mind shattering speech. Chief Seattle says in the speech that Native people bear some responsibilty the war as well. About as many Americans died fighting Natives in America during the 1800s as died in Vietnam. It wasn't only a one sided conflict. But the speech shows what the underside of the American dream has meant and how it has killed millions of those who originally inhabited the land. The speech itself should be posted on a permanent basis at Seattle Indymedia's site, where the Indymedia movement started.

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