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Military Crowd Control Deployed in LA

by Orwell Warned Wednesday, Dec. 27, 2000 at 7:04 AM

Long before the RNC in the summer of 2000, police in Los Angeles worked closely with military officers on crowd control and situational handling. This document from the "Miltary Review" (aka "The Professional Journal of the United States Army") outlines the militarized tactics used on demonstrators in Los Angeles. It's author, a Lt. in the LA Sheriff's Department and USMC reservist, attempts to justify a militarized approach in dealing with citizens of a Democracy. You, the citizen and your right to assemble, are in the crosshairs.

45 Crowds, Mobs and Nonlethal Weapons

by CWO-5 Sid Heal, US Marine Corps Reserve

Peacemaking is neither

painless nor easy but fraught with danger, misperceptions and criticism.

According to one political leader, "Making peace, I have found, is much

harder than making war."1 To accomplish those difficult peace-keeping

missions, being considered just is more important than being considered

powerful. The payoff can be substantial, for "the greatest honor history

can bestow is that of peacemaker."2

Peacekeeping as Warfighting

An examination of peacekeeping and warfight-ing, despite their similarities,

is a study of contrasts. First, peacekeeping operations are highly sensitive

to political objectives and tend to cast the military in a supporting,

rather than a leading role. The military has developed doctrine and honed

procedures to prepare for and execute war. Peacekeeping operations, however,

present new problems for which there are few readily apparent solutions.

Second, adversaries during peacekeeping operations are often amorphous

and difficult to identify. Factions with shifting loyalties and alliances

can be friend one day and foe the next

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Hmm...

by Elysian Thursday, Dec. 28, 2000 at 10:13 PM

Was that 'Sid Heal' or Sieg Heil?

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Militarization? Did you read this article?

by Fair Shake Friday, Dec. 29, 2000 at 6:10 PM

Okay...what part of an article on the use of non-lethal means for mob rioting is offensive? How could it compare to the Third Reich? Why is it bad, that a former (or current) soldier can discern the difference between dealing with war (where everyone is killing everyone else) and dealing with citizens pursuing the right to protest against their government and advocates a measured, strictly controlled response to crowds, even when they depart from legal behavior and rocket toward damaging the small business person or making it impossible for your average worker to arrive or leave said workplace? Are you so biased against all forms of law enforcement that you cannot see the tremendous strides that have beeen achieved by those that demonstrated in the 60's? Back then, law enforcement was made up of war veterans who knew only one response to a situation that was out of their control: crushing force, including deadly force. This approach was supported by government and the public and innocent people died as a result of these policies. Today, police are actively looking for alternatives to violence and direct confrontation in these situations and an entire industry has become deveoted to ways of controlling violence with out injury to the suspects or the officers who attempt to subdue them. The author of the article on this page has been a leader in pursuing these technologies. The fact that his background is military as well as local law enforcement is a testament to how far we have come since the days of the civil rights protests. If your desire is to effect more change, you should begin by recognizing the changes that have already occurred and enlarge upon those successes. You also might consider giving a little credit to the "other side" when they show progress toward the ideal you espouse.

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This isn't progress

by Mark De Martini Saturday, Dec. 30, 2000 at 2:17 PM
ktesibios@diespammingdoghotmail.com

This doesn't represent any progress toward any of our ideals. It only represents a technical sort of "progress" towards "commanders" having unlimited power to "impose their will".

To this mentality, we are not citizens, we have no rights to be respected, we are merely cattle to be herded for the benefit of the great Masters of the Universe.

The question is not what degre of force they use to "impose their will", the question is what right they have to do so.

Nowhere in this article does Mr. Heil even paise to consider the question of legitimacy of authority. Instead he just assumes that "authority" has an unlimited right to "impose" its "will" upon anyone who has the temerity to question or oppose it.

That's what's wrong here. The pig worldview. There is no difference between a barrow and a boar- unless you happen to be a sow.

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Authority is granted by the people....

by Fair Shake Wednesday, Jan. 03, 2001 at 7:02 PM

The authority is granted by the people in our democratic form of government. The "people" vote for the laws and the law makers. The "people" who own businesses or work in areas of mass demonstrations have as much right as the demonstrators to move freely about their neighborhoods, or work area without interference by protesters and without damage to their property or home or business. The police are not imposing their own will, they respond, in crowd situations to the will of the people who call them and request their services. If they don't respond when asked by their fellow citizens, they are derelict. When they lose control of demonstrations such as Seattle WTO, they are accused of failing to do their jobs. Whose will is more important, some visiting protester(often from out of state or county) who wants to make his point by smashing business windows or blocking access to public streets, so workers and others who belong in the area are restricted from reaching jobs or family? Or the worker, who needs that job he is trying to reach to feed his family or the worker who is trying to leave work and can't get past the protest crowds to pickup her kids from school. Your diatribe against "authority" is reminiscent of adolescent defiance for the sake of defiance, without regard for anyone's needs but your own.

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ignorance is your bliss

by who wants to know Thursday, Jan. 04, 2001 at 8:28 PM

Im not even going to attack your skewed views on this system,but if your so concerned with workers supporting their families how can you not care and try to prevent protestors efforts to stop the injustices going on in 3rd world countries and here. your defense is reminiscent of a gullible adolescent believing everything he is told, without regard for anyone's needs but your own.



p.s.

save your reply on how if we act as citizens govt. will give us what we want. i am no sheep

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Peaceful Protest is a right!

by Fair Shake Sunday, Jan. 14, 2001 at 9:47 AM

The constitutional right to peacefully assemble, to express your doubts or protest wrongs is one of many things that make this country a superior place to live. You can tell the success of a country by what happens when you open the gates.If everyone is trying to run away, it must be a terrible, cruel place. But everyone from all over the world is trying to get into this country. That is not to say there is not room for improvement. We must continue to evolve. Demonstrations and protests are a vital part of the process that helps societies to grow and improve. That having been said, the article above does not attempt to keep anyone from protesting, it only attempts to outline means to manage mobs (large groups of people overtaken with emotion, endangering and interfering with the rights of others) If you are so intent on helping people in the third world, why don't you join the peace corp or some other volunteer group that actually offers needed medical, agricultural and educational outreach to people in need internationally. That way you might actually have the opportunity to learn enough about individual cultures to offer help in a meaningful way instead of assuming, in naive arrogance, that you know what is best for everyone. As for the injustices in this country, while I don't dispute your right to protest and actually encourage it as one of the more effective means to continue to grow and improve, the destruction that occurred in Downtown Seattle during WTO increased the financial hardships faced by many of the people you consider victims of the system due to business closures and damage brought on by the protesters. You protest for a living wage for low skilled labor, then keep them from earning any wage by closing down their job site? Do you think they are thanking you for looking out for them in these circumstances? How do you feed yourself? Do you work? Have an allowance from Mom and Dad? Accept government assistance? Beg? Can you open your mind enough to embrace the notion that before you can resolve injustice, you need to completely understand the circumstance that created it and have a comprehensive solution available to replace the current approach?

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