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imc la news from 8/18/00 (real audio)

by imc audio team Sunday, Aug. 20, 2000 at 3:07 PM

Our news from 8/18/00. This cast includes a report the legal situation and jailed protesters, solidarity march for prisoners, rally agianst US bombing of Vieques, rally for reperations for African-Americans, sweatshops in LA, the black block, comentary on the DNC and Al Gores acceptance speech, the shadow convention and wrap-up from DAN and D2K. (42:54)

RealAudio: stream with RealPlayer     or download RM file ()

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Could someone post a transcript?

by Silly Rabbit Sunday, Aug. 20, 2000 at 3:23 PM

I use linux and apparently have no access to Real Audios software because its produced for Bill Gates, Microsoft Windows and the Macintosh only. Rather than choosing to suppot someone who is as rich as the bottom half of the poorest people in this country, I've chosen to use Linux. I've never had it crash once in 11 months. It's too bad you guys choose to use RealAudio's proprietary format.

Perhaps the convienience of its use outways the support its use gives to Microsoft. Perhaps it provides you with the, "freedom to innovate"

Since you do though, perhaps you could provide a transcript for those of us who wish not to give Bill Gates our money. Bill Gates, the guy who helped the WTO to Seattle. In fact, wasn't he chair of the U.S. delegation to the WTO?

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What to do re tyrannical computing paradigms

by grackle Sunday, Aug. 20, 2000 at 10:00 PM

Hooray for you, speaking out against the monopoly.

It's refreshing to see, because it seems that

generally people dare not criticize the richest

dweeb. And they may have reason to be paralyzed

by fear, given that the products of both MS and

RealNetworks actively follow users around the net

and gather profile information on them... not to

mention the myriad security holes of the crappy

but dominant Operating System. Anyone peviously

unaware of these realities should look up the

better Boycott Microsoft sites, and also Linux

sites/groups/lists.. with your best bet probably

being your local Linux users group, where someone

can personally impress upon you the unacceptable

nature of a Micro$oft-dominated existence.

That said, as a programmer from way back, I retain

a Win32 partition on my hard drive simply because

it's unfortunately the defacto standard and there's

so very many people developing for it.. as someone

needing to take part in this digital battle for the

hardware on everyone's desktops, I like to know what

we're up against. I did pay for it, technically, as

a used hard drive which had a M$windows installation

on it. But of course I've not shelled anything out

to the disturbing Corporation. It's an older release,

which is actually preferable when it comes to analyzing

what it's doing with my computer, and trying to keep

all the security holes plugged up and whatnot-- because

it's been around awhile, alot of freeware and shareware

programmers have studied it carefully and put out some

interesting tools for it.

The reason for advocating that you get a RealAudio-

capable setup is again the regrettable reality that

it has kind of emerged as a standard for streaming

media. Video's kind of a failure with the internet now

so congested with neophytes clicking on all kinds of

stupid animated advertising, but radio stations every-

where are recognizing that audio can be streamed pretty

reliably, the result being that you can listen to programs

from a plethora of college, community, and shortwave stations

that become available once you have capability to plug into

the format owned by the crappy RealNetworks company. The

good news is that there is a high quality, free alternative

streaming protocol-- mp3. Winamp is the best player

(www.winamp.com) and has Linux versions.

As for your particular situation, have you ever tried the

Linux app which runs MSWindows stuff? Such emulation might

cause too much of a CPU drain to carry out real-time audio

decompression, unfortunately. If you haven't, certainly

avail yourself of winamp. There are a couple realaudio

"plug-ins" that contributing users have written for Winamp,

(I've yet to try them out) but they're possibly too dated

to deal with the latest Real format, "G2".

You're certainly right to criticize an entity as

iconoclastic as IMC for bending to the forces of

monopoly-minded technology. Mp3 streaming would have

been the far better choice. And for non-live reports,

such as the above one, encoding to a voice-quality mp3

file would be best, to be simply downloaded by the

audience for listening on-demand from their own hard

drive. (In fact they should just save the Real .rm file

for downloading instead of streaming... the cheesy

G2 standard kept switching quality levels while I was

listening to it due to varying levels of net congestion

at the time.) But then again, another very unsatisfying

facet of IMC's output has been "radio IMC", (also using

the unfortunate RealNetworks protocol) which has been

dominated by somebody-or-other's tastes in music CD's,

when there's been probably a lot of spotlight on the

site and hence a priceless opportunity to educate and

energize folks with debates and background reports, in

addition to the updates from the street. But really we

have no place to complain at this point, since we didn't

get in there on the ground volunteering in the weeks

of preparation, and should now restrict our feedback to

expressions of great THANKS for all the hard work, with

hopes to continually improve and increase the quality

media that IMC's are all about.

If staff could find time to post the .ra or .rm files

as downloadable, I believe I have a tool capable of

converting to mp3, for re-posting at IMC or wherever.

No guarantee I'll have time to, but might as well try.




-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Hooray for you, speaking out against the monopoly.

It's refreshing to see, because it seems that

generally people dare not criticize the richest

dweeb. And they may have reason to be paralyzed

by fear, given that the products of both MS and

RealNetworks actively follow users around the net

and gather profile information on them... not to

mention the myriad security holes of the crappy

but dominant Operating System. Anyone peviously

unaware of these realities should look up the

better Boycott Microsoft sites, and also Linux

sites/groups/lists.. with your best bet probably

being your local Linux users group, where someone

can personally impress upon you the unacceptable

nature of a Micro$oft-dominated existence.

That said, as a programmer from way back, I retain

a Win32 partition on my hard drive simply because

it's unfortunately the defacto standard and there's

so very many people developing for it.. as someone

needing to take part in this digital battle for the

hardware on everyone's desktops, I like to know what

we're up against. I did pay for it, technically, as

a used hard drive which had a M$windows installation

on it. But of course I've not shelled anything out

to the disturbing Corporation. It's an older release,

which is actually preferable when it comes to analyzing

what it's doing with my computer, and trying to keep

all the security holes plugged up and whatnot-- because

it's been around awhile, alot of freeware and shareware

programmers have studied it carefully and put out some

interesting tools for it.

The reason for advocating that you get a RealAudio-

capable setup is again the regrettable reality that

it has kind of emerged as a standard for streaming

media. Video's kind of a failure with the internet now

so congested with neophytes clicking on all kinds of

stupid animated advertising, but radio stations every-

where are recognizing that audio can be streamed pretty

reliably, the result being that you can listen to programs

from a plethora of college, community, and shortwave stations

that become available once you have capability to plug into

the format owned by the crappy RealNetworks company. The

good news is that there is a high quality, free alternative

streaming protocol-- mp3. Winamp is the best player

(www.winamp.com) and has Linux versions.

As for your particular situation, have you ever tried the

Linux app which runs MSWindows stuff? Such emulation might

cause too much of a CPU drain to carry out real-time audio

decompression, unfortunately. If you haven't, certainly

avail yourself of winamp. There are a couple realaudio

"plug-ins" that contributing users have written for Winamp,

(I've yet to try them out) but they're possibly too dated

to deal with the latest Real format, "G2".

You're certainly right to criticize an entity as

iconoclastic as IMC for bending to the forces of

monopoly-minded technology. Mp3 streaming would have

been the far better choice. And for non-live reports,

such as the above one, encoding to a voice-quality mp3

file would be best, to be simply downloaded by the

audience for listening on-demand from their own hard

drive. (In fact they should just save the Real .rm file

for downloading instead of streaming... the cheesy

G2 standard kept switching quality levels while I was

listening to it due to varying levels of net congestion

at the time.) But then again, another very unsatisfying

facet of IMC's output has been "radio IMC", (also using

the unfortunate RealNetworks protocol) which has been

dominated by somebody-or-other's tastes in music CD's,

when there's been probably a lot of spotlight on the

site and hence a priceless opportunity to educate and

energize folks with debates and background reports, in

addition to the updates from the street. But really we

have no place to complain at this point, since we didn't

get in there on the ground volunteering in the weeks

of preparation, and should now restrict our feedback to

expressions of great THANKS for all the hard work, with

hopes to continually improve and increase the quality

media that IMC's are all about.

If staff could find time to post the .ra or .rm files

as downloadable, I believe I have a tool capable of

converting to mp3, for re-posting at IMC or wherever.

No guarantee I'll have time to, but might as well try.

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