http://www.aljazeerah.info/


Israeli security sources said Prime Minister Ariel Sharon personally ordered and monitored the helicopter attack against the paralyzed cleric, whose wheelchair lay smashed in a pool of blood after three missiles exploded.

It was the highest-profile assassination of a Palestinian since the April 1988 killing in Tunis of Palestinian commando chief Khalil al-Wazir. At least seven other people died in the Gaza strike and two of Yassin's sons were among 15 wounded.

The attack on Yassin as he and his entourage left dawn prayers seemed to be aimed at weakening Hamas to prevent it from claiming victory should Sharon go ahead with a planned unilateral pullout from Gaza.

After the first missile hit, a witness told Reuters: "I looked to see where Sheikh Ahmed Yassin was. He was lying on the ground and his wheelchair was destroyed. People there darted left and right. Then another two missiles landed."
Another one of Yassin's sons, Mohammed, told Reuters he had remarked to his father about three hours before the attack about an Israeli reconnaissance plane spotted in the sky.
"He said, 'We seek martyrdom....to Him (God) we belong to Him and to Him we return."'

Israeli Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz, speaking to reporters, called Yassin "the Palestinian (Osama) bin Laden" and pledged more Israeli attacks on Hamas's top echelon.

But a dissenting voice in the Israeli cabinet, Interior Minister Avraham Poraz, said Yassin -- Hamas's spiritual leader -- was not "a ticking bomb" and voiced concern that his death could lead to the loss of many more Israeli lives in suicide attacks.

Previous assassinations of Palestinian resistance leaders have triggered waves of suicide bombings that have turned Israeli buses, restaurants and cafes into charred wrecks and deepened violence that has stalled a U.S.-backed peace "road map."
Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians poured out their grief in a funeral procession for Yassin and the other dead.

While espousing "armed struggle," Yassin's movement also ran a broad welfare network for Palestinians and he was seen by many in the West Bank and Gaza as a heroic symbol of resistance to Israeli occupation.

"DOOR TO CHAOS"
Officials in the Palestinian Authority called Yassin a moderating force in Hamas, an Islamic movement he co-founded in 1987 with encouragement from Israel, which hoped the new group would undercut its long-time enemy, PLO chief Yasser Arafat.

"It is a clear message to the world that the Israelis are not ready to sit with the Palestinians for peace," Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Quorie told reporters after the killing, which he said "opened the door to chaos."

With eyes burning with tears and rage, mourners reached out to touch Yassin's Islamic flag-draped coffin in the biggest public turnout in Gaza since Arafat's triumphant entry in 1994 after interim peace deals with Israel.

"Sharon, start preparing your body bags because (Hamas's) Qassam Brigades will put Israeli houses in mourning and make a funeral in every Israeli street," the crowd chanted.
In the first sign of revenge within Israel, a Palestinian with an axe hurt three people outside an army base near Tel Aviv, Israeli police said. He was arrested.
In scenes reminiscent of the start of a Palestinian uprising that began in September 2000, protests erupted in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

Witnesses said Israeli forces killed a gunman in the Gaza Strip and an 11-year-old during a demonstration in the area.
In the West Bank city of Nablus, witnesses said soldiers shot dead a university student-reporter during an anti-Israeli protest. The army said he was a gunman who fired at the troops.
The Israeli army sealed off the West Bank and Gaza Strip to stop any Palestinians entering Israel.
Mosques called an immediate general strike. Arafat, the Palestinian president, declared three days of mourning. He and his cabinet stood in a moment of silence at the start of an emergency meeting.
A senior State Department official urged all sides to remain calm. The United States brands Hamas a terrorist group.

Hamas said it believed Washington, where Sharon hopes to win support for go-it-alone steps Palestinians fear could turn into an Israeli land grab in the West Bank, had given the green light for Yassin's assassination.


JOIN US IN THE CAMPAIGN AGAINST ISRAELI APARTHEID TERRORISM

Take Action, sign on to the letter at http://www.cflweb.org/ political action and tell Congress to stop using your tax dollars to support apartheid terrorism.

For further political action and information see:

http://www.cnionline.org --- http://www.endtheoccupation.org/ --- http://www.stopthewall.org/ --- http://www.rachelcorrie.org/action.htm --- http://www.astandforjustice.org --- http://www.palestinesolidaritymovement.org/ --- http://bigcampaign.org.uk/

What the Media hopes that you never learn about the apartheid terror state of Israel…

Important informational websites:

http://www.voicesofpalestine.org/ --- http://www.palsolidarity.org/main/ --- http://www.washington-report.org/index.htm --- http://www.al-awda.org/ --- http://www.palestineremembered.com/index.html --- http://electronicintifada.net/new.shtml --- http://www.globalexchange.org/countries/mideast/palestine/ --- http://www.stop-us-military-aid-to-israel.net/ --- http://zionismexplained.org/ --- http://www.palestinehistory.com/ --- http://www.pchrgaza.org/ --- http://www.rafah.vze.com/ --- http://rafah.virtualactivism.net/news/todaymain.htm --- http://www.americanintifada.com/ --- http://www.ifamericansknew.org/ --- http://www.ussliberty.org/ --- http://www.nowarforisrael.com --- http://www.ipsc.ie/ --- http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/am/publish/ --- http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/ --- http://www.ipc.gov.ps/index.asp --- http://www.imemc.org/ --- http://www.stopaipac.org/ --- http://www.monabaker.com/ --- http://kurtnimmo.com/ --- http://www.rense.com/ --- http://bostontopalestine.org/ --- http://they-are-still-here.blogspot.com/ --- http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/index.php --- http://www.a-mother-from-gaza.blogspot.com/ --- http://bethlehemghetto.blogspot.com/ --- http://www.democracynow.org/index.pl --- http://bodyontheline.blogspot.com/ --- http://peacepalestine.blogspot.com/ --- http://www.umkahlil.blogspot.com/


Israeli terrorism in pictures …
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14069.htm

Christian organizations that oppose the Zionist apartheid terror regime:
http://www.cmep.org/ --- http://www.hcef.org/ --- http://www.hcsn.org/ --- http://www.al-bushra.org/ --- http://www.cpt.org/hebron/hebron.php --- http://www.biblestudysite.com/

Jewish organizations that oppose the Zionist apartheid terror regime:
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/ --- http://www.nkusa.org/ --- http://www.nimn.org/ --- http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/ --- http://www.btselem.org/English/index.asp --- http://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/ --- http://www.icahd.org/eng

The Israeli lobby AIPAC counts on your ignorance. Iraq, Palestine, Neocons - how all of it ties together can be found in this report entitled "The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy". A condensed version can be found here at the London Review of Books.
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/print/mear01_.html

See the Stop AIPAC site… http://www.stopaipac.org/


EVERYONE SHOULD SEE THE DOCUMENTARY “TERROR STORM” BY ALEX JONES. It exposes Government sponsored terrorism, False Flag Operations, the Pro-War Zionist Media and The New World Order.

Throughout history, criminal elements inside governments have carried out terror attacks and psychological operations (psy-ops) against their own populations as a pretext to enslave them. TerrorStorm reveals how, in the last hundred years, Western leaders have repeatedly murdered their own citizens while posing as their saviors.

This powerful documentary explores the mindset of the average brainwashed Westerner. It delves deeply into the systems of control which have been scientifically-crafted to imprison their minds and keep their eyes closed to the realities of the world around them.

Alex Jones has agreed to let everyone see “Terror Storm” under not for profit and for educational purposes free of charge. Jones should be commended for exposing the New World Order on such a large scale. His website is http://www.infowars.com

A Must See Film…TERROR STORM… "The DVD Of The Resistance": Watch Free, Spread The Word!
Please help us get Terror Storm to as many people as possible!

Terror Storm can also be viewed on-line here… http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=12638

What is a False Flag? …Committing an atrocious act and then blaming it on another party or nation. The point is to turn public opinion against an entity and have someone else fight your battles for you.

Will America demand that Israel surrender its illegal nuclear weapons and other WMDs before it can detonate one in the United States under another False Flag Operation?

Sign the Petition Opposing An Attack on Iran! http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/iran

JOIN THE ANTI-WAR MOVEMENT

Join us in the streets and halls of Congress as we protest war and occupation! Sign up for the political action alerts at http://www.answercoalition.org and http://www.unitedforpeace.org

IMPEACH BUSH THE WAR CRIMINAL

http://www.impeachbush.org

What CNN and FOX would rather you not see or know anything about… http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

Note: The mainstream media refuses to address and fairly report on the tragic events in the Holyland which is Palestine, this in spite of the fact that it is the most important issue on the global stage.

Resist The Corporate Owned Pro-War Zionist Media’s 24/7 Campaign To Brainwash And Manipulate The American Public. Render Them Irrelevant. Get Your News Uncensored and Unfiltered From Independent Sources.

http://www.informationliberation.com/

http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/indx.php

http://www.democracynow.org/index.pl Listen to Amy Goodman’s show everyday… a must.

http://www.aljazeerah.info/

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/index.html

http://www.freespeech.org/fscm2/genx.php?name=home

http://www.americanfreepress.net/

http://www.counterpunch.org/

http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage

http://www.imemc.org/

Important and Vital: Find A Pacifica Network Station Near You. Listen to Democracy Now with Amy Goodman and support the station that carries it…
http://pacificanetwork.org/radio/content/blogsection/7/83/


SPOON-FED NEWS CAUSES BLINDNESS

FOX and CNN 24 / 7 propaganda machines are undermining objective media.
Take action: Call your cable provider and tell them that they have 30 days to carry the Al Jazeera “English” Channel on “basic cable” and if they refuse to, boycott them by cancelling their service.

“If everybody watches CNN, what does CNN watch? The Al Jazeera English Channel.”
Friends of Al Jazeera
http://www.friendsofaljazeera.org/
http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage


BOTH REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT PARTIES SUPPORT ISRAELI APARTHEID TERRORISM AND THEIR MEMBERS RECEIVE MONEY FROM AIPAC INFLUENCED PRO WAR PRO ISRAEL PACS.

See AIPAC Influenced Pro-Israel, Pro-War PAC Contributions to 2006 Congressional Candidates…

http://www.washington-report.org/index.htm

Vote for the Party of Peace and Justice. The
Green Party USA … http://www.gp.org

It bears mentioning that no Green Party USA candidate is supported by the Neo-con pro war AIPAC lobby. See http://www.gp.org


Your “Representatives” in Congress are supposed to work for YOU not lobbies of evil foreign regimes. Call or write them today. Tell them to stop all aid to the apartheid terror state of Israel…

Call U.S. Capitol… 202.225.3121
E-mail Your U.S. House Representative (you have only one)… http://www.house.gov/writerep/
E-mail Your U.S. Senators (you have only two)… http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

White House… 202-456-1414
White House… FAX: 202-456-2461
E-MAIL… comments@whitehouse.gov


David Ben-Gurion told Nahum Goldmann, the president of the World Jewish Congress:
“If I were an Arab leader I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: we have taken their country . . . We come from Israel, but two thousand years ago, and what is that to them? There has been anti-semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They only see one thing: we have come here and stolen their country. Why should they accept that?”


Must reads: Beyond Chutzspah, Finkelstein. A Pretext For War, Bamford. The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, Simons. Must see: Rachel - An American Conscience, Barakat.

“In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” - George Orwell
"The people will believe what the media tells them they believe." - George Orwell

Please copy, e-mail, re-post and distribute this as widely as possible. Also for those without Internet access.

Scumbag lived far too long and got what he deserved. I hope he's enjoying his raisins...

If anyone respects the Palestinian's basic human right NOT to be destroyed by Zionist crusaders and there is a "racism alert".

Be alert. America needs more lerts.

A fellow Scripturalist Jew wrote a few years ago:

"I was once sitting on an airplane to Israel, which had a stopover in London. I sat down next to a young blonde German man who was on his way back to Europe after living in America for several years. We got
to talking and I mentioned that I was born and raised in the US but moved to Israel in 1993. He was very surprised. He had himself left his native Germany to work in New York where he could make more money
and live less expensively. But he could not fathom why I would leave the lap of luxury in Chicago and move to Israel. When he asked me why, I explained to him that I am a Zionist and moved to Israel because of Zionism. His reaction was quite strange. The look on his face said: "Wow, I can't believe one of them just admitted it." It seemed I had let some unknown secret out of the bag but I did not myself know what the secret was. *****Later I was to learn that the term "Zionism" is understood by most Gentiles to be the alleged Jewish desire to seize control of the world.***** [MY ASTERISKS - SJ] *****When I told my new German friend that I moved to Israel because of Zionism he apparently thought that I was admitting to the existence of some international Jewish conspiracy of which I was myself a part.***** [MY ASTERISKS - SJ] When I learned of this I could not stop laughing but when reality set in I realized that it was not very funny. For a German at the end of the 20th century to believe there was an international Jewish plot to take over the world was no laughing matter.

So what is Zionism and why am I a Zionist? And what of the Jewish plot to take over the world? Well I have news. There is no Jewish plot to take over the world. Zionism simply means the Jewish yearning to return to Zion. As anyone who reads the Hebrew Bible will
discover, Zion is the name of the mountain on which the city of Jerusalem is built. A return to Zion means a return to the city of Jerusalem. A Zionist is not someone who wants to control the world but someone who wants to live in the Land of Israel.

So why be a Zionist? Well, YHWH gave the People of Israel His Torah to keep in the Land of Israel. The idea was that we live in the Land and keep YHWH's Torah we would thereby be a Light unto the Nations. We
did not do a very good job of this and as predicted in the Torah the land "spit" us out. And now after 2000 years of exile we yearn to be back in the Land. It is worth noting that there is no explicit "commandment" to live in the Land. Instead, living in Israel is the
assumption behind the Torah itself. Just consider how many times the Torah gives us a law that begins with the formula "And it will be when you come into the land that I have given you".

The United Nations and the Durban Conference on Racism have declared that "Zionism is Racism". Well, if this is so than YHWH is a racist and the Hebrew Bible is a racist document! This also means that
Christianity and Islam, which at least in theory claim to believe in the Torah, are racist religions. Now the real question is how can Zionism be Racist when it embraces pale-white Zionists from Eastern Europe, charcoal-black Zionists from Ethiopia, brown Zionists from Morocco, and Yellow Zionists from Central Asia?! Does that sound like racism? In Israel people of every color and race live side by side without a second thought. And the thing binding all us Zionists
together is our love of YHWH and the Land that He gave us."

Why is Sniveling Judasgoat concerned with the affairs of America?
Hint:
They really, really need the military and economic aid from the U.S. Taxpayer and their children to fight in their wars to continue to play the big nuclear bully for us in the middle east.

I decided this week that it was time I outed myself.

I couldn't take it anymore. The sneaking around. The posturing, the covering up.

So this is me, coming out.

I've been this way for as long as I can remember. I kept quiet about it, but it was always there. Even before I knew myself what it was.

It colored my thinking. It affected my relationships. I couldn't talk to just anyone about this thing I was carrying inside.

Were I to come out with it, I thought to myself, I'd be asking to be lumped in with people who are routinely shunned, reviled, quarantined by polite society, spat at by the over-righteous, openly blamed for global ills.

You think, there'll be people who will never look at you, shake your hand, or smile at you quite the same way again.

Then again, there's only so long you can lie to your own heart.

So here it is.

I'm a Zionist.

Go ahead. Take your best shot.

There will be those, and they will be many, who will tell me that it is wrong to love this place, that I have no right to love it, and certainly none to claim it as mine. That by God's law, it will never be mine, it can never be mine.

There will be those who will tell me that it is wrong - in fact, impossible - to love this place and, at the same time, believe that it should be shared with another people who loves this place no less than we. That by God's law, it will never be theirs, it can never be theirs.

Perhaps they'll never want to speak to me again. Perhaps we'll both be better off.

Here's one thing they will not change:

I love this place. Even if it doesn't much care for me. I love it unconditionally. I see its flaws. It is a collection of scars and blemishes, bad behaviors and raw moods and tantrums, guilt trips and passive aggression and active aggression and denial. I don't care. It loves me, it loves me not. I love it nonetheless.

I love the way it looks and smells. Overexposed and overpowering.

I have been this way now, for as long as I can remember. I don't expect this to change materially for as long as I live.

In some ways I was raised to be this way, and in some ways I was raised to be anything but. Ways that no one will fully understand. My being this way hurts my family, old friends, the people I left behind to be this way. And yet, from this remove, I see that this is how it works for everyone, more or less. You must leave your family of origin to start a relationship, a family - a new one, from scratch.

One of the tough parts of being this way is the necessity of making it all up as you go along.

If I came out with it, I'd thought to myself, I'd be lumped in with extremists, people whose outrageous behavior and evident, even brutal, contempt for people unlike them makes an irrationally bad rap that much worse.

So if I'm already out, here's what I have to offer:

I believe that a Jewish country need not be racist. I believe that a Jewish country must not be racist.

I believe that Jews have every right to a state of their own, no less than the Palestinians. I believe that the Palestinians have every right to a state of their own, no less than the Jews.

I believe that if one side denies the other the right to a state, it does direct and permanent harm to both peoples.

I believe that in a world in which there are dozens of Islamic countries, some of which cannot abide the corporeal presence of the Jew, there is room for one Jewish one.

I believe that in a world in which the flags of 13 nations bear a cross, the flag of one nation can bear a Star of David.

...

I believe that a time will come when the sides will come to recognize what each has been saying to the other -- often in the worst possible ways -- for a lifetime now:

We're here. That's final. Get used to it.

And since the nazis and the zionists were and are two sides of the same coin ( in fact, there was a coin in nazi Germany with a Star of David [ Lucifer ] stamped on one side) we should only expect the 'Lanbenshrawm' of 'our glorious destiny' to ring loudly in our ears.
Over the mass graves of its victims, of course.

No there is nothing wrong about going to the ancestors lands as long as you treat the people who have been living there for thousands of years, NICELY.

But when you build an apartheid system against the palestinians. This is wrong.

Just as the courts of Mississippi and Alabama in the 1930's voted that separate but equal was perfectly ok, the UN reflects the racist majority of the world. There are 56 Muslim nations voting as a block. It doesn't make the UN just. This is the same UN that won't take action in Darfur, after all.

Just as the courts of Mississippi and Alabama in the 1930's voted that separate but equal was perfectly ok, the UN reflects the racist majority of the world. There are 56 Muslim nations voting as a block. It doesn't make the UN just. This is the same UN that won't take action in Darfur, after all.

No; don't look over *here* look over there.
This isn't Mississippi we're talking about, it's Palestine where the native populations are in starving crowded ghettos.
Don't you zionazis ever have the balls to admit you're wrong?
No.
Never have, and never will.

"starving crowded ghettos. "

Show me a photo of starving palestinian children with bloated bellies.

I've never seen one.

Now the Zionazis are saying it's all a big myth about the walls and the check points and the murderous incursions on the ghettos and is all an unfounded, undocumented heresy. And the purge of Palestinians through waves of terror is a rumor.
Another holocaust denier.

Show me.
Either you can or you can't

Now the Zionazis are saying it's all a big myth

I'd call it a lie, or you'd be able to show evidence.

about the walls and the check points

There are certainly walls and checkpoints.

Another holocaust denier.

So show me. Show me a dramatically increased death rate. Show me photos of starving children. Show me any documentation. Any at all. Show me.
Or have the editors delete this request, and you can breathe a sigh of relief that you won't have to prove the unprovable.

And since we're on the subject, why do the israelis target reporters?

-Jerusalem April, 3, 2002, Wafa - At least 11 journalists have come under gunfire and three of them have been hit since the Israeli occupation army declared Ramallah a "closed military zone" and barred the media from the West Bank city, the first such ban since the start of the second Intifada in September 2000.
Three others were expelled from the city, bringing to about 30 the number of journalists Israeli troops have either fired on, expelled or arrested in that time.
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Could be to keep any bad press out?
Zionazis, tear down your walls.

Nonsense, how many of those supposed "journalists" were actually journalists and how many were Hamas with a note book? Of the actual journalists, how many had put themselves in a combat zone? Is there any proof or is it sheer inuendo that they were "targeted" and if not why isn't this slander?

'show me?'
Like that would make any difference. Instead, let me show everyone.
Israeli Human Rights Group B'tselem

Since 28 June (2006) and the beginning of the IDF operation in the Gaza Strip, the IDF fired on average between 200 – 250 artillery shells each day and the IAF conducted more than 220 air strikes including the bombing of the Gaza power plant on 28 June. The destruction of the plant's transformers left Gazans with electricity for an average of between six to eight hours per day. This also led to a water shortage across the Gaza Strip with Palestinians in urban areas receiving as little as two to three hours of water supply per day as the water distribution has not been synchronised with electrical supply.

The IDF operation has caused 5,100 Palestinians to flee from their homes at different times and seek shelter in UNRWA schools. Thousands of other Palestinians are estimated to have been displaced and sought shelter elsewhere. The operation led to the destruction of 34 Palestinian structures and 3,666 dunums (367 hectares) of agricultural land.

Violence also continued in the West Bank with 22 Palestinians killed and 326 injured in June and July of 2006 (compared to 21 killed and 20 injured in May). The IDF conducted over 1,000 search and arrest campaigns in these two months and detained/arrested almost 1,000 Palestinians in the West Bank (compared to 360 search and arrest campaigns in May leading to 400 arrests/ detentions).

The_Politics_of_Starvation
http://www.alternativeinsight.com/The_Politics_of_Starvation.html
-AMMAN, Sept 27, 2006 (AFP) - The UN commissioner for Palestinian refugees on Wednesday urged the world to put pressure on Israel to end its blockades of the West Bank and Gaza Strip, saying conditions there are going from bad to worse. -
or
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13774.htm
Road to Map of Starvation
-The affable Eugene H. Bird, CNI's President, since 1994, opened the proceedings by saying the Israel-Palestine Question "was central to resolving the U.S. war on terrorism." He said that over "60 percent" of the American people want Israel to be held "more accountable" for its reckless actions and that the present federal administration has "no idea what they are doing." As for the U.S. Congress, he said, "It should be ashamed of itself." Rafi Dajani, executive director of the American Task Force on Palestine (ATFP), served as moderator for the nearly two-hour program.

"Numbers reflect the deepening crisis," Rothermel continued. "Seventy percent of the population in the occupied Palestinian territory is now living below the poverty line, up from sixty-eight percent in 2005, and thirty percent five years earlier. Unemployment, currently at thirty-eighty percent of the workforce, is expected to double by the end of this year, according to World Bank estimates. The lack of socioeconomic improvement and a rise in violence, attributable to living conditions, has led to increased levels of insecurity throughout the population and food insecurity, i.e. people unable to rely on the purchase of food, has reached over half the population as a result of the PA's fiscal crisis, extended closures (of borders) and market disruptions."-
or
http://gpolya.newsvine.com/_news/2007/01/21/531031-palestinian-genocide-by-racist-zionism-terror-starvation-trauma-in-gaza
-Gaza is not merely a Prison (as perceived for example by humanitarian Jewish writers such as Israeli Ha'aretz wrtier Amira Hass and outstanding US scholar Professor Noam Chomsky), it is akin to a Concentration Camp (indeed Israeli Amira Hass refers to Nazi concentration camps).

Figures from the authoritative UN Population Division data: the post-invasion excess deaths and under-5 inant deaths in the Occupied Palestinian Territory total 0.3 milion and 0.2 million, respectively; there are 6 million Palestinian refugees, 4 million registerd with the UN, and 80,000 flee annually (see: http://esa.un.org/unpp/ , http://mwcnews.net/content/view/11409/42/1/1/ and http://mwcnews.net/content/view/1375/247/ ).

Reading of the Internationally-agreed UN Genocide Convention (see: http://www.preventgenocide.org/law/convention/text.htm ) makes it quite clear that what the Racist Zionists (RZs) of Apartheid Israel are doing is deliberate, sustained genocide - a Palestinian Genocide:-

Once again, nothing indicates Palestinians are starving. Are you now admitting its hyperbole?

For example: Infant mortality in Gaza- 19 per 1,000 births
Infant mortality in the Sudan-74 per 1,000 births

Big Difference.

We've already covered the pointing elsewhere of fingers.

I see...
You cannot read. Or are just plain avoiding the issue.
You seem to think that only you matter and your inability to accept the data
http://la.indymedia.org/news/2007/03/195631_comment.php#195847
means that the data is not there.
But the denial of Zionazis is normal.

He knows he's been wrong all along but he'll not apologize to The Untermenschen.

Well now, why didn't the nazis allow the Red Cross to inspect the death camps?
Maybe the evidence would be there for the world to see.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12976.htm
Presently, Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza are experiencing what United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) John Ging calls, “the countdown to a humanitarian crisis”. In a wanton act of collective punishment, Palestinians are being deprived of food, money and access to the outside world-

But I'm certain the zionist occupation treats the native populations ( the ones who were living there before the invasion and waves of terror - see
The Hidden History of Zionism- turned their lives into a hell of ethnic cleansing ) with respect and consideration.

" Palestinians are being deprived of food, money and access to the outside world-"


This does not indicate starvation, either.
There is still an open border with Egypt.

Why is this significant?
The use of language in this crisis is meant to demonize, rather than to convey information. The imprecise and improper use of language borders on deliberate lies in many cases.
Are there hardships?
Certainly.
Is there starvation?
No.

Egypt is Israel's ally in the siege of Gaza, just Finland was Germany's ally in the siege of Leningrad.

"Egypt is Israel's ally in the siege of Gaza"

Ok. Give me three concrete examples to substaniate this claim. I'll be waiting

One will suffice. Everything else is derivitive. No. the border with Egypt is not "open." Egypt prevents the people of Gaza from importing heavy weapons. Were the Gazans as well armed as their American supplied jailers, they could control their own borders, their airspace and access by sea. Gaza is a prison. Death is too merciful a fate for their jailers.

Egypt prevents the people of Gaza from importing heavy weapons.

Wrong: 20 tons of weapons have been brought into Gaza in the last 10 months alone, including a large number of anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles.


Maybe if the people are facing food insecurity, its because their leaders are spending their money on weapons, instead.

Egypt prevents the people of Gaza from importing heavy weapons.

Wrong: 20 tons of weapons have been brought into Gaza in the last 10 months alone, including a large number of anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles.


Maybe if the people are facing food insecurity, its because their leaders are spending their money on weapons, instead.

Those aren't heavy weapons. When Palestinians have as many tanks, helicopter gunships and fighter bombers as the IDF, they wont have to worry about getting enough to eat, let alone crontrolling their own borders, airspace and access by sea. Israelis don't.

Disarm the IDF. That would put an end to Zionist oppression rather quickly.

After all, haven't they been riding this myth since the original zionists fed their lower class Jewish 'brethren' into the nazi death camps.

Just press the hate button whenever the cretin lies or uses the term "Zion-nazi".
Let the editors deal with him.

"all they can do is lie"
I.m sorry, I'm not a zionazi. You have me confused with you.

-On Feb. 24, 1943 Stephen Wise, President of the American Jewish Congress and leader of the American Zionists issued a public refusal to this offer and declared no collection of funds would seem justified. In 1944, the Emergency Committee to Save the Jewish People called upon the American government to establish a War Refugee Board. Stephen Wise testifying before a special committee of Congress objected to this proposal. [Source]

During the course of the negotiations mentioned above, Chaim Weizman, the first "Jewish statesman" stated: "The most valuable part of the Jewish nation is already in Palestine, and those Jews living outside Palestine are not too important". Weizman's cohort, Greenbaum, amplified this statement with the observation

"One cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews in Europe".

And then, after the bitterest episode in Jewish history, these Zionist "statesmen" lured the broken refugees in the DP camps to remain in hunger and deprivation, and to refuse relocation to any place but Palestine; only for the purpose of building their State.

On Feb. 24, 1943 Stephen Wise, President of the American Jewish Congress and leader of the American Zionists issued a public refusal to this offer
WHAT OFFER? and declared no collection of funds FOR WHAT? would seem justified.

This is completely removed from any context. Why is that? Answer the questions.

Oh, dear. I just checked. You are getting your info from that notorious anti-Semitic, rense.
No wonder you are so damaged in your thinking.

The American Jewish community, then and unfortunately now, believes that if you ignore hate and anti-Semitism and stay below the radar, and do your jobs like good little Jews, that the dominant culture will leave you alone.
Alas, they are wrong.
Fortunately there are some brave souls that know that and are working to change it. You've met some on line. Perhaps some day, you'll meet some in person.

On December 17, 1942 both houses of the British Parliament declared its readiness to find temporary refuge for endangered persons. The British Parliament proposed to evacuate 500,000 Jews from Europe, and resettle them in British colonies, as a part of diplomatic negotiations with Germany. This motion received within two weeks a total of 277 Parliamentary signatures.

On Jan. 27, when the next steps were being pursued by over 100 M.P.'s and Lords, a spokesman for the Zionists announced that the Jews would oppose the motion because Palestine was omitted. [Source]

On Feb. 16, 1943 Roumania offered 70,000 Jewish refugees of the Trans-Dniestria to leave at the cost of $50 each. This was publicized in the New York papers. Yitzhak Greenbaum, Chairman of the Rescue Committee of the Jewish Agency, addressing the Zionist Executive Council in Tel Aviv Feb. 18 1943 said,

"When they asked me, "Couldn't you give money out of the United Jewish Appeal funds for the rescue of Jews in Europe, I said NO! and I say again, NO! ...one should resist this wave which pushes the Zionist activities to secondary importance."

On Feb. 24, 1943 Stephen Wise, President of the American Jewish Congress and leader of the American Zionists issued a public refusal to this offer and declared no collection of funds would seem justified. In 1944, the Emergency Committee to Save the Jewish People called upon the American government to establish a War Refugee Board. Stephen Wise testifying before a special committee of Congress objected to this proposal. [Source]

During the course of the negotiations mentioned above, Chaim Weizman, the first "Jewish statesman" stated: "The most valuable part of the Jewish nation is already in Palestine, and those Jews living outside Palestine are not too important". Weizman's cohort, Greenbaum, amplified this statement with the observation

"One cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews in Europe".

And then, after the bitterest episode in Jewish history, these Zionist "statesmen" lured the broken refugees in the DP camps to remain in hunger and deprivation, and to refuse relocation to any place but Palestine; only for the purpose of building their State.

In 1947 Congressman William Stration sponsored a bill to immediately grant entry to the United States of 400,000 displaced persons. The bill was not passed after it was publicly denounced by the Zionist leadership.

Anything from Rense lacks credibility.

Historians have examined various aspects of the fall 1942 proposal to allow some 70,000 Jews trapped and dying in Transnistria to emigrate from Romania.

The initiative for the negotiations apparently came from the Romanians, in October 1942, with the Germans opposing it once they became aware of it two months later. By the time this rescue scheme became public knowledge, in February 1943, it had already been abandoned.

'Anything from Rense lacks credibility'
Even the sourced references? How convieeeenient.
Weak, very weak.

I don't patronize hate sites.
Clearly you do.
Give me the source info and I will address it.
I checked the New York Times - there was no article written on Romanian Jews on the day mentioned.
Yep. Pretty weak.

Google Congressman William Stration.
The only thing that comes up are the quotes from your hate site, and the other hate sites that have copied it.
Doncha think a real Congressman might have actual, you know , historic information written about him? As if he actually existed?

You fail critical thinking, dawg. And I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are even thinking at all.

Who said anything about the NYT?
Source for paragraphs marked "[Source]":
The Wall Street Journal December 2, 1976
or
"On the basis of these considerations, and upon the condition that the German Reich government recognize the national aspirations of the Israel Freedom Movement mentioned above, the NMO in Palestine offers to actively take part in the war on the side of Germany.

"This offer by the NMO could include military, political and informational activity within Palestine and, after certain organizational measures, outside as well. Along with this the "Jewish" men of Europe would be militarily trained and organized in military units under the leadership and command of the NMO. They would take part in combat operations for the purpose of conquering Palestine, should such a front be formed.

"The indirect participation of the Israel Freedom Movement in the New Order of Europe, already in the preparatory stage, combined with a positive-radical solution of the European-Jewish problem on the basis of the national aspirations of the Jewish people mentioned above, would greatly strengthen the moral foundation of the New Order in the eyes of all humanity.

"The cooperation of the Israel Freedom Movement would also be consistent with a recent speech by the German Reich Chancellor, in which Hitler stressed that he would utilize any combination and coalition in order to isolate and defeat England".

(Original document in German Auswertiges Amt Archiv, Bestand 47-59, E224152 and E234155-58.
Complete original text published in: David Yisraeli, The Palestinian Problem in German Politics 1889-1945 (Israel: 1947) pp. 315-317).

Wow.

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Stop being so weasely.

Sorry thug, the words and history speak for themselves.
Like assholes who perform extra judicial assassinations and then wank about 'victimhood' like the zionazis do while they go on killing and hand wringing about being called out on it.
Always instructive, and predictable.

Should we not trust Reuters, the Boston Globe, Salon, Newsday, NYT, Yahoo, CNN, USA Today and the Washington Post because their articles can be found on Rense.com?

"Just press the hate button whenever the cretin lies or uses the term "Zion-nazi".
Let the editors deal with him."

Get real. I thought we LA-IMC roaming Jews had become wiser since we "barged into" this site April last year. What more will it take for some to realize the "editors" are cut of the same neo-Nazi cloth their canine darling was made of.

If you walk the walk then don't complain about the road you have chosen.
The nazis and zionists are brothers in fur.
History shows this.
just do a search on
zionists +nazis.

Zionazis are sensitive but they still go on killing, kidnapping, staving and imprisoning the people of Palestine.
They don't like criticism very much, it seems and they not only point fingers at others but continue to drag Jews into their murderous ideology.
As they hide behind them while they rampage like petulant psychopathic children with a world class military.
Later-day nazis.

Zionazis are sensitive but they still go on killing, kidnapping, staving and imprisoning the people of Palestine.
They don't like criticism very much, it seems and they not only point fingers at others but continue to drag Jews into their murderous ideology.
As they hide behind them while they rampage like petulant psychopathic children with a world class military.
Later-day nazis.

Neonazis are sensitive but they still go on lying, slandering, murdering, kidnapping, hacking to pieces and imprisoning the people of the Land of Israel.
They don't like criticism at all, it seems and they not only point fingers at others but continue to drag other gentiles into their genocidal ideology.
As they hide behind them while they rampage like petulant psychopathic children with a world class military.
Later-day Nazis galore.

They have nothing they can refute and are reduced to parrot babble which makes no sense.

They can't refute anything nor own up to personal faults and are reduced to a mouth frothing spew of hateful drivel.

I checked the New York Times because I could do it from my desk. Your site said it was in all the New York papers. There was no article inn the New York Times on that date. As NY papers go, its a big one.
Context is everything.
There is no information on a Congressman William Stration.
Didn't exist. If he did- tell me- was he a democrat? A republican ? What committees was he on? Where is he buried?
A 1976 WSJ is not the same as a document written at the time of the event. ...notice that they don't give a page number? I'll give you a hint when doing research- if they make it hard to find a source, there is usually a reason.
The only things you pull up are a handful of anti-Semitic sites quoting each other.
it s the big lie- but no matter how many websites its posted on, it remains a lie.
Remember TW's Einstein quote- its on hundreds of sites- its a lie. Remember the infamous radiation at the Israeli embassy? Its on hundreds of sites- its also a lie.

During the Second World War in Yugoslavia, as with the Catholic Church in Croatia, many Muslim clerics in Bosnia and Kosovo were willing accomplices in the genocide of the nations Serbian, Jewish and Roma population. From 1941 until 1945, the Nazi-installed regime of Ante Pavelic in Croatia carried out some of the most horrific crimes of the Holocaust (known as the Porajmos by the Roma), killing over 800,000 Yugoslav citizens - 750,000 Serbs, 60,000 Jews and 26,000 Roma. In these crimes, they were helped by Muslim fundamentalists in Bosnia and Kosovo who were openly supported by the Palestinian Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Hajj Amin al-Husseini. A notorious anti-Semite, he openly encouraged Muslims to join Nazi units that would be later implicated in genocide and crimes against humanity - the infamous Hanjar (or Handschar) 13th Waffen SS division. One of these crimes was the The Massacre at Koritska Jama Gorge, in Bosnia during 1941. The Nazi's also established a puppet state in Serbia under General Milan Nedic, who along with the Cetniks also particapated in the Holocaust in wartime Croatia (which included Bosnia) and Serbia.

What united al-Husseini and the Third Reich was a common hatred of the Jewish people. The Nazis had taken al-Husseini under their protection following the wartime invasion of Iraq. He was to spend most of the war living in a luxurious suite at the Hotel Adlon in Berlin. Hitler had enjoyed quite a following among the nationalist youth of Egypt during the war, after Nassiri Nasser, the brother of the future president of Egypt, had published an Arab edition of Mein Kampf in 1939, describing its author as the "strongest man of Europe". Not surprisingly, Egypt became like Argentina after the war - a safe haven for SS war criminals who fled there after the war. Many were keen to help President Nasser in his attempts to destroy the State of Israel. There is evidence that the shadowy ODESSA network helped many of them to Egypt. Apart from Syria - who still host the wanted SS war criminal Alois Brunner, it was in Egypt that the Post-war Arab links to the ODESSA network were strongest.

Many of the victims of the Holocaust/Porajmos were murdered in the Second World War's third largest death camp - Jasenovac, where over 200,000 people - mainly Orthodox Serbs met their deaths. Some 240,000 were "rebaptized" into the Catholic faith by fundamentalist Clerics in "the Catholic Kingdom of Croatia" as part of the policy to "kill a third, deport a third, convert a third" of Yugoslavia's Serbs, Jews and Roma in wartime Bosnia and Croatia (The Yugoslav Auschwitz and the Vatican, Vladimar Dedijer, Anriman-Verlag, Freiburg, Germany, 1988).

The most senior Muslim cleric to be involved in the Holocaust/Porajmos was Hajj Amin al-Husseini, who according to the Encyclopedia of the Holocaust (Edition 1990, Volume 2, Pages 706 and 707), made a substantial contribution to the Axis war effort by organizing "in record time" recruitment to Muslim SS units in Croatia that would be involved in some of the worse atrocities of the Second World War.

Altogether, it is estimated that some 20,000 Muslims fought in the Hanjar (Sword) SS Division, which fought against Yugoslav partisans led by General Tito, and carried out police and security details in fascist Hungary. The Nazi's recruited two SS divisions from Yugoslavia's Muslim population: the infamous Bosnian 13th Waffen Hanjar (or Handschar) SS division, and the Albanian Skanderbeg 21st Waffen SS division. SS conscription in Yugoslavia during the war produced 42,000 Waffen SS and police troops

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2006/05/160324_comment.php#163011

Every time they bring up Al-Husseini, I’m going to tell you about Polkes, Begin, Shamir and the rest of the Nazi collaborator/terrorist gang that founded the rogue state of Israel.

Hajj Amin Al Husseini wasn't Hitler's only stooge in British occupied Palestine. Consider the case of Fieval Polkes:

"Von Bolschwing was deeply involved in intelligence work--and in the persecution of innocent people -- for most of his adult life. He had joined the Nazi party at the age of twenty-three, in 1932, and had become an SD (party security service) informer almost immediately. In the years leading up to 1939, von Bolschwing became a leading Nazi intelligence agent in the Middle East, where he worked under cover as an importer in Jerusalem. One of his first brushes with Nazi espionage work, according to captured SS records, was a role in creating a covert agreement between the Nazis and Fieval Polkes, a commander of the militant Zionist organization Haganah, whom von Bolschwing had met through business associates in the Mideast. Under the arrangement the Haganah was permitted to run recruiting and training camps for Jewish youth inside Germany. These young people, as well as certain other Jews driven out of Germany by the Nazis, were encouraged to emigrate to Palestine. Polkes and the Haganah, in return, agreed to provide the SS with intelligence about British affairs in Palestine. Captured German records claim that Polkes believed the increasingly brutal Nazi persecution of the Jews could be turned to Zionist advantage -- at least temporarily -- by compelling Jewish immigration to Palestine, and that the Haganah commander's sole source of income, moreover, was secret funds from the SS.

It was in the course of these negotiations that the young Baron von Bolschwing gained the trust of Adolf Eichmann, who was at the time an obscure SS functionary specializing in intelligence on Freemasonry and Jewish affairs for the Nazi party. The acquaintance was more than a casual one, for von Bolschwing went on to play a central role in arranging conferences between Eichmann and Polkes in Vienna and Cairo, contacts that established Eichmann as the SS's Jewish affairs expert and laid the foundation for his later career as the architect of the extermination of European Jewry.”

-- Blowback : America's Recruitment of Nazis and Its Effects on the Cold War by Christopher Simpson, ISBN: 1555841066, p 253

Simpson’s source on this is:

Sicherheitsdienst des RFSS SD-Hauptamt, Palastinareise Bericht (U.S. designation no. 173-b-16-14/61), now at Frames 2936012-2936068, microfilm roll 411, T-175, RG 242, NA, Washington, D.C.

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Continued at:

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2006/05/160324_comment.php#163011

Every time they bring up Al-Husseini....

Why the need to change the topic?
Because they don't want you to realize that the racial hatred of the Palestinins towards the Jews, and to others extends far back into history.

So they attempt to create a smokescreen.
They are trying to ditract you.
Don't fall for it.

because they don't want you to realize that Nazism and Zionism are such similar ideologies that the Nazis and Zionists have been actively collaborating for seven decades. It's not just minor guys like Polkes, either. At the height of WWII Menachim Begin and his crew of blood thirsty terrorists conducted a bombing campaign against Hitler's enemies. Begin was not just a founding father of Israel, and later its prime minister, but also the butcher of Deir Yassin, Palestine’s very own Lidice

Read the whole story:

http://tinyurl.com/2q7r42

By Shraga Elam and Dennis Whitehead

In the late 1940s, Walther (Walter) Rauff, an SS officer who was responsible for the murder of at least 100,000 people and was wanted by the Allies as a war criminal, was employed by the Israeli secret service. Instead of bringing him to justice it paid him for his services and helped him escape to South America. Documents of the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) that have been released over the past several years show that the Americans were aware that Rauff's case was not exceptional.

A CIA memorandum dated March 24, 1950 describes the relations between the Israel agent Edmond (Ted) Cross, whose name is deleted on this document, and a Nazi named Janos Walberg: "Subject's engagement be [sic] the Israeli Intelligence Service would fit into the picture as revealed by talks with X with [Edmond (Ted) Cross a.k.a. Magen or Crowder] consisting in the utilization of former Nazi elements for observation and penetration in the Arab countries. The attempt to send the well-known former SS Colonel Walter Rauff to Egypt having failed, the Israeli Service with all probability (however this has not yet been confirmed) had engaged Subject [Walberg], whose sentiments and past would arouse no suspicions in Egypt that he is a Jewish agent."

An earlier document, from February 1950, states that Cross helped Rauff obtain the necessary papers for immigration to South America, even though the attempt to send him to Egypt had failed. Why, though, did Israel help Rauff? This document provides a hint: "It is not improbable that Subject's presence in Syria was in connection with a mission for the Israel[i] service." Rauff was indeed in Syria, serving as military adviser to President Hosni Zaim, who sought a peace agreement with Irsael. Rauff was forced to leave after Zaim was deposed in a military coup.

The mission Rauff was to have carried out in Egypt is not known, but his connection with Cross may supply more than a hint. According to research by Ruth Kimche, a former Mossad employee, Cross was sent in July 1948, as the War of Independence raged, to assassinate several key figures in Egypt with the help of a group of Jews. At the last minute the mission was called off. Cross returned to Egypt in September, but again the plan was not executed, probably because he became entangled in a love affair with the Egyptian Princess Amina Nur a-Din and had to leave the country. According to Kimche, "The whole story is very reminiscent of the Lavon Affair of the 1950s, except that fortunately for them the 1948 plan was not implemented, apparently thanks to the Egyptian princess."

But the plan was not jettisoned, either. In 1949, as the U.S. documents show, Cross wanted to sent Rauff to Egypt. According to another document in Rauff's CIA file, Rauff did not reach Egypt, but a 1953 memorandum quotes the U.S. ambassador to Egypt as saying that a man named Rauff was in the country. True, the memorandum describes this Rauff as a Pole, but it also notes that he organized the extermination of Jews in Poland, making it very likely that the reference is to the famous Nazi officer.

Rauff was born in 1906. He served in the German Navy from the age of 18. In 1937 he was dismissed for conduct unbecoming an officer due to adultery. A close friend and fellow former naval officer, Reinhard Heydrich, who was then deputy commander of the SS under Heinrich Himmler, helped get him into the Nazi organization. Initially Rauff served in SS headquarters in Berlin. After the conquest of Norway in 1940 he headed the security police there for three months. That year he was reinstated in the Navy, at his request, and commanded a fleet of minesweepers, but in 1941 Heydrich summoned him back to SS headquarters.

When Heydrich was appointed governor of occupied Czechoslovakia, Rauff accompanied him to Prague as his technical assistant. He returned to Berlin in June 1942, after Heydrich's assassination by the Czech resistance. Rauff was appointed head of the SS Technical Department and was responsible for the project of extermination using gas vans. After Jews and others were herded into the back of a gas van, the vehicle was sealed and the exhaust pipe introduced into the back. When the engine was turned on the fumes killed everyone in the back of the vehicle. Between 97,000 and 200,000 people, most of them Jews, were murdered in this way. This method of mass murder was too slow and cumbersome for the Nazis, however, who went on to develop the gas chambers using Zyklon B as the killing agent.

From July 1942 until May 1943, Rauff also commanded the Einsatzkommando (a unit of the Einsatzgruppen, the mobile killing squads that were in charge of annihilating Jews) in North Africa and was responsible for concentrating the Jews in Tunisia. In July 1943, after a brief stay in Berlin, he was made commander of the Einsatzkommando in Corsica, and from September 1943 until the end of the war was the SS Kommandant in Milan. As such, he took part in the secret negotiations that led to the surrender of the Nazis in northern Italy.

Rauff, unlike other Nazis who participated in the talks, was arrested by the Allies on April 30, 1945. In 1947 he escaped and was recruited for Syrian intelligence by Captain Akram Tabara, who gave his name as Dr. John Homsi.

Rauff advised President Hosni Zaim in Syria and was arrested on the day of the coup against him. Rauff managed to convince his captors that he was only an adviser and had no command powers; he was released but ordered to leave the country.

According to one of the versions in the CIA files, Rauff was suspected of ties to "subversive Communist activity," as the agent of a German named Von Lipkau. After Rauff's expulsion from Syria, he was supposed to accompany Lipkau to India to disseminate Communist propaganda. According to one CIA report, the mission was aborted because Lipkau remained in Tel Aviv due to other commitments.

From Damascus Rauff went to Beirut, and from there to Italy. With the assistance of Israeli, and apparently also British intelligence, he sailed for South America in December 1949. He settled in Quito, the capital of Ecuador. A 1953 report put him in Buenos Aires, where he probably headed an anti-Communist group. In 1958 Rauff moved to Chile, obtaining permanent residency status there a year later. He became a cattle and fish merchant and was described as a rancher and an industrialist. His son, also named Walter, was accepted to the Chilean naval academy and was the protege of Chief of Staff General Carlos Prats, a supporter of the socialist President Salvador Allende. The son denies that his father ever worked for Israel.

On December 19, 1962, Rauff was arrested in Chile after West Germany requested his extradition. Chile's Supreme Court refused the request and released Rauff. Allende's election as president did not change the situation: in a friendly letter to Nazi hunter Simon Wiesenthal Allende wrote that he could not reverse the court's 1962 decision.

In September 1973, Allende was killed in a military coup against his democratically elected government. A few months later, the French paper Le Monde reported that Rauff was appointed head of Chile's intelligence service; the report was denied by the Chilean government. Ten years later, in January 1984, Chile turned down an extradition request for Rauff from Israel's Justice Ministry. A month later, West Germany repeated its extradition request. Chile said the case would be reopened only if it were presented with evidence of new crimes. Extraditing Rauff would not serve any public interest in Chile, the court said, since he had lived in the country for many years and his behavior was always beyond reproach.

The U.S. government got into the act, emphasizing to Chile its conviction that Nazi criminals must face trial. The Santiago government came under heavy international pressure to extradite Rauff. Both President Ronald Reagan and British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher addressed the issue in 1984, but their comments did not impress Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet. The Nazi hunter Beate Klarsfeld traveled to Chile to organize protests over the issue and was arrested twice for disturbing the peace.

Then director general of Israel's Foreign Ministry, David Kimche, visited Santiago in 1984. The press reported that he urged his hosts to deport Rauff, whom he described as one of the major war criminals living in a Western country. His wife, Ruth Kimche, said on behalf of her husband that he does not recall this; they were in Chile on a private visit, she says. The sincerity of the Israeli efforts toward Rauff's capture can be gauged from the fact that already in 1979 Israel sold patrol boats to Chile and then overhauled Chilean war planes, and in 1984 was still assisting with their maintenance.

Rauff died of lung cancer in May 1984. The statement issued by the Israeli embassy sounded like a sigh of relief: "The problem with Mr. Rauff is now solved. God has tried him."

The fact that Rauff supplied intelligence to Israel has been published before, but for some reason the reports did not generate a public debate over the moral implications of Israel's providing protection to a major Nazi criminal, who was the subject of an international campaign by Nazi hunters Simon Wiesenthal and Beate Klarsfeld to bring him to trial. Similarly, the renowned U.S. Holocaust researcher Richard Breitman, who as director of historical research for the Nazi War Criminal Records Interagency Working Group reviewed Rauff's CIA file, chose to ignore information indicating that Israeli intelligence systematically employed Nazis in Arab countries.

According to CIA records Rauff's handler was Ted Cross, whose Hebrew name was David Magen. Cross was recruited in 1948 for clandestine activity by Asher Ben-Natan, director of operations in the Foreign Ministry's Political Department, which served as the precursor to the Mossad. Cross was fluent in several languages and had served in British intelligence in World War II.

According to an article by Gil Meltzer in the daily Yedioth Ahronoth from a year ago, Cross - who was from a wealthy Jewish Budapest family named Gross - was an international adventurer, a hedonist and a womanizer. To pay for his flashy lifestyle, he dealt in drugs. When Israel discovered that he had also sold his services as an agent to Egypt - for the very handsome sum of $20,000 - he was arrested and sentenced to a lengthy prison term. After his release he went into the restaurant business and, among other things, helped found the Wimpy's hamburger chain.

Can the Israeli government be blamed for the ties between Cross and Rauff, or was this a private initiative by the double agent? The CIA, it turns out, did not know some important details about Rauff's connections with Israeli intelligence.

In Passover of 1993, Shlomo Nakdimon published an interview with Shalhevet Freier in Yedioth Ahronoth. In the late 1940s Freier was a branch director in the Foreign Ministry's Political Department, and in the 1970s he chaired the Israel Atomic Energy Commission. He has since died. In the interview he related how he had recruited Rauff in Italy, after friends in the Italian Foreign Ministry tipped him off about the new arrival. Rauff was using an alias at the time. According to Freier, then, it was the Political Department that employed Rauff; there is no mention of Cross in his interview.

Freier told Nakdimon that Ben-Natan and the director of the Political Department, came to Italy especially "in order to watch the adviser to the president of Syria enter the house of their man in Rome." Freier introduced himself to Rauff as a representative of Israeli intelligence. For an entire month the Nazi criminal sat and wrote a report on Syria's military deployment.

"When he didn't know the answer to a question, Rauff called friends in Syria for additional information," Freier said. The Israeli government not only paid Rauff, but also arranged for a legitimate Italian visa. Rauff, his wife and their children sailed from Genoa to South America. He handed Freier the last part of the report in the port.

The CIA received information that Rauff had acted on behalf of British intelligence in Syria and gave his handlers a copy of the Syrian intelligence service and political police reorganization plan. He seems to have been the servant of several masters at once. According to the CIA documents, in November 1949 Rauff arrived in Rome from Beirut and stayed at the Pensione Telentino under the name of Walter Ralf. Sources at the hotel said that he had little money and lived frugally. He had no visitors and received only a few telephone calls. A Catholic priest known for his Nazi leanings gave Rauff 40,000 lire. On December 17, 1949, Rauff set sail for Ecuador. Both the ticket and his passport were supplied by either Israeli or British intelligence.

In January 1950, Cross told CIA agents that Rauff had left Italy and had severed his ties with Israeli intelligence, but had left behind many interesting documents. Cross promised to bring them to the next meeting, but the agents did not really believe him.

Freier said in the interview that Rauff continued to write to him. He told Nakdimon that he maintained contact with the Nazi "because I thought that one day I might need him. The Arabs trusted him."

Ben-Natan, who later served as director general of the Defense Ministry and ambassador to France and to Germany, now confirms that Freier employed Rauff but says he received a report from him to this effect only post factum. In retrospect, Ben-Natan today believes it was a mistake to forge ties with the Nazi criminal, but emphasizes that he provided very important material.

In the memoirs he published five years ago, Ben-Natan has a different account. He writes that Freier "succeeded in sending to Syria a former Nazi officer, who upon his return brought information about the deployment of the Syrian army." Ben-Natan confirms that the officer was Rauff, but is not absolutely certain which version is correct. In writing the book, he says, he relied solely on his memory.

What did the Israelis who hired Rauff know about his past? Were they aware of the gravity of his crimes? Asked by Nakdimon whether he knew at the time that Rauff was responsible for the gas-vans and the death of up to 200,000 people, Freier said he was not: "I asked him about his past, and he claimed that he had been the Gestapo official in charge of forging British pounds in order to subvert the British economy. Only years later did I hear on the radio that the Americans, after decoding files of senior Nazis, stated that Rauff had been in charge of all the engineering activity of the Gestapo."

It is difficult to believe that Freier did not know who he was recruiting. On May 2, 1945, many newspapers reported that "the infamous Colonel Rauff, the long-sought head of the SS in Milan, was captured." On October 19, 1945, Rauff, in American captivity, signed a sworn declaration admitting his involvement in killing Jews in the gas-vans. This document was submitted at the Nuremberg trials, together with a letter from his subordinate, Dr. August Becker, which contained a report about technical problems in the mass murder of the Jews. Apart from this, Rauff's name appears 31 times in the transcripts of the Nuremberg trials. This information was readily available: all one had to do was contact Dr. Robert Kempner, an American Jew who was the deputy chief prosecutor at Nuremberg, or the Jewish observers who followed the trials. Ben-Natan, who collected material about Nazi war criminals during this period in Europe, confirms that this information was available.

Rauff's mention in connection with the SS project to forge British banknotes calls into question another operation in which Freier was involved. At the end of the war, a Jew named Jacques Van Harten, one of the central agents of the forgery project, contacted Jewish soldiers from Palestine in northern Italy and offered them large quantities of forged banknotes in return for protection. (An article about this episode appeared in this magazine in 2000.)

In addition to large sums of money, Van Harten was also in possession of a large quantity of jewelry. Shmuel Ossia, an associate of Freier, testified that Freier interrogated Van Harten at length about his past. Ossia remembers seeing the frightened Van Harten in the corridor during the interrogation, which went on for a few days. Van Harten undoubtedly related how he had helped Himmler's special envoy, Kurt Becher, who was in charge of plundering the property of Hungarian Jewry, and revealed what he knew about the source of the forged British money, which later, thanks to Van Harten, would become a crucial source of funding for the illegal immigration and arms purchasing operations of the Haganah, the forerunner of the Israel Defense Forces.

The extent of Freier's awareness of Van Harten's deeds is shown not only by the commanders of the illegal immigration project (Aliyah Bet), but also by the fact that in an interview to the historian Nana Sagi in 1966, he said with feigned innocence that he did not understand how no reference was made to Van Harten in the Kastner and Eichmann trials. Sagi did not ask Freier why he did not use his extensive connections to address the issue.

The Americans arrested Van Harten in Italy, on suspicion of abetting the escape of Nazi war criminals. The Mossad l'Aliya Bet - the clandestine organization of the Jewish community in pre-1948 Palestine, which was in charge of the illegal immigration of Jews to the country - tried to obtain Van Harten's release. Yitzhak Tamari, a soldier in the Haganah who knew why Van Harten had been arrested, protested to the commander of the Haganah unit in Italy, Eliahu Ben Hur (Cohen). Ben Hur, who later became a major general in the IDF, told Tamari that Van Harten had been promised protection and a gentleman always keeps his word.

Following Van Harten's release, in 1946, Ben Hur instructed his father, Abba Cohen, Tel Aviv's fire chief, to help Van Harten acclimatize. Van Harten opened a jewelry store on Nahalat Binyamin Street, near the Carmel produce market. Abba Cohen later got a job in one of Van Harten's businesses. Van Harten died in 1973, a respected businessman and a resident of the upscale community of Savyon who during the war had used his money and connections to save Jews and smuggle out valuables for them, particularly jewelry. His family stuck to this account even after the publication of the article in 2000. The jewelry store, by the way, closed down soon after the article appeared.

Freier also helped Van Harten in 1947, when the British wanted to deport him. He put him in touch with the Jerusalem lawyer Mordechai Eliash and was probably also responsible for a letter sent to the British by Golda Meyerson (Meir), as the acting foreign minister of the Jewish Agency, stating that Van Harten was under the protection of the pre-State Jewish community, the Yishuv, because he had ostensibly helped save Jews.

But Van Harten was small fry compared to Rauff, who was a criminal on the same scale as Eichmann. It is thus not surprising that Klarsfeld, who invested considerable efforts to bring Rauff to trial, almost slammed down the telephone receiver when she heard that he had been employed by Israeli intelligence and had received its assistance in escaping to Europe. "In 1984, when I campaigned in Chile for Rauff's extradition, I had no knowledge of so-called 'contacts' between him and the Mossad," Klarsfeld wrote in an e-mail. "I doubt that it could have been possible, because Rauff was well-known in the Jewish world for his role in the gassing program by trucks and also because he persecuted the Jews of Tunisia when he was head of the Nazi police in Tunisia, and he persecuted the Jews in Italy when he was head of the Nazi police in Milano." Similarly, the director of the Israeli office of the California-based Simon Wiesenthal Center, Dr. Ephraim Zuroff, finds it improbable that Freier did not know about Rauff's crimes. W

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Some 400 global companies have established sites in Israel, in order to benefit from Israel's key economic advantage: know how, breakthrough innovative technologies, skilled manpower and US-style energetic entrepreneurship.

1. Another $250MN Israel-dedicated fund has been announced by DISNEY'S INVESTMENT ARM, SHAMROCK. Shamrock investments in Israeli companies, since 1986 (e.g. Pelephone - $591MN, Koor - $250MN, Tadiran communications - $90MN, etc.), have yielded 31% annually (The Marker, March 25, 2007).

2. WARREN BUFFETT defines his $4BN investment in Israel's Iscar, located next to the Lebanese border, as "the highlight of the year." He added that "At Iscar, as throughout Israel, brains and energy are ubiquitous." (Annual letter to stockholders of Berkshire Hathaway, New York Sun, March 2).

JUNIPER, the US giant of Networking and Security, expands its Israel R&D center (Israel's Kagoor, acquired for $70MN in 2005), transforming it into its Voice Over Internet Protocol (VoIP) global center (Globes, Feb. 22).

3. LONG-TERM CONFIDENCE IN ISRAELI COMPANIES has been reflected by the L.A.-based CAPITAL GROUP, which acquired additional $15MN of Israel Chemicals stock, increasing its holdings to $400MN, 5.18% of market value (March 7).

4. ISRAEL's ECONOMIC INDICATORS. In addition to an all time high of $23.7BN IN OVERSEAS INVESTMENTS, compared with $10.5BN - 2005 and $5.4BN - 2003, the "London Economist" reported: A 37% increase in ISRAEL'S INDUSTRIAL PRODUCTION during Jan.-Nov. 2006, compared with China's 14.9%, Singapore's 14.7%, US' 3.8%, Japan's 4.8%, EEC's 3.6%, Russia's 3%, Germany's 6% and Britain's 0.6% (Ma'ariv, Jan. 15, 2007). ISRAEL's EXTERNAL DEBT is the lowest ever - 86% of GDP, compared with 95% in 2005 (Japan - 172%, Belgium - 98%, US - 64%, Britain - 47%). Average external debt:GDP ration in OECD countries is 78%. The reduction in external debt is attributed to the robust GDP growth, success of privatization, decreased deficit, increased tax revenues, etc. (The Marker, Jan. 8). BUDGET DEFICIT reduced to 0.88%, the lowest since 2000, compared with1.9% - 2005, 3.7% - 2004, 5.4% - 2003, 3.6% - 2002, 4.2% - 2001, 0.7% - 2000 and 2.3% - 1999 (The Marker, Jan. 10).

5. $2.7BN INVESTED IN ISRAEL BY OVERSEAS INVESTORS DURING JAN.-FEB, 2007, $1.23BN in February (directly in companies & real estate - $1.1BN and in stock market & bonds - $1.6BN), according to Bank of Israel (Globes, March 13).

6. $139MN raised, on NASDAQ, by Israel's BigBand Networks, the fourth Israeli NASDAQ IPO in 2007 (The Marker, March 16).

7. US-based OPTIUM has acquired Israel's Kailight Phonotics for $35MN in cash (Globes, March 29). The Waylon, MA-based CANDELA has acquired Israel's InoLase for $16.5MN and royalties (Globes, March 12).

8. CITIGROUPG and UNTERBERG investment banks have led a $29MN round by Israel's Tower, which could expand to $61MN if options are exercised (March 16). INTEL CAPITAL and MENLO VENTURES participate in a $20.5MN 3rd round by Israel's AeroScout (Globes, Feb. 26). The Boston-based GLOBESPAN CAPITAL has co-led a $16MN round by Israel's Provigent, joined by SEQUOIA CAPITAL, Dr. ANDREW VITERBI, co-founder of QUALCOMM and ASCEND TECHNOLOGY VENTURES (Globes, March 7). SEQUOIA, ACCEL PARTNERS and EVERGREEN invested $15MN in Israel's Pontis (Globes, Feb. 14). TAIWAN's VENTURETECH ALLIANCE and the US-based BLUERUN VENTURES have co-led a $14MN 3rd round by Israel's AdvaSense (Globes, March 14). BENCHMARK and ACCEL PARTNERS invested $12MN in Israel's Zlango's 1st round of $12MN (Globes, Feb. 13). BATTERY VENTURES and NORTHWEST VENTURE PARTNERS participated in a pre-IPO $10MN round by Israel's Veraz (Globes, Feb. 12). MOTOROLA FUND and BESSEMER participated in a $7.5MN round by Israel's ColorChip (Globes, Feb. 21). REYLOCK PARTNERS have led a $4MN round by Israel's Pioneer (Globes, March 26). US-based DAWNTRADER VENTURES invested $3MN in Israel's Peer39 (Globes, March 7).

That's what the apartheid regime in South Africa said at first, too. And at the time, they were right. But little by little, the boycott grew, and grew, and grew, and grew and grew. and eventually, the apartheid regime was crushed by its weight. The apartheid regime that currently occupies Palestine will meet the same fate. It's only a matter of time. They gloat that it will not happen this year, but so what? As the years go by, the boycott grows and grows. Their sick, evil, racist rule is doomed. So let them laugh all they want this year. The last laugh will be ours, not theirs, and they who laugh last, laugh best.

Ahhh, but the S. African system didn't have the huge and omnipotent israeli lobby with their ideologues who seem to make a living out of keeping certain facts from being known.
As stated by a certain agent of this present system, a researcher, interested in 'the facts' and stumbling on this or other boards might read the hidden history of this occupation.
In essence, the intense effort to cloud the issue will prolong the misery and hate that can only spell another coming holocaust for the Jews and maybe the rest of the world.

Israelis are not Israel. Israelis are people. They exist in real space and time. Israel is a country. Like all countries, it exists only in the human mind.

This is what being a Zionazi equates to. Reduced to following up in a mindless parrot like mimicry words that show the shallow, petty and pathetic attempts at zionesque 'wit'.


While only demonstrating the empty ideology that can only imitate and never create. All the time believing themself as being oh so clever as they are stuck in a self serving blindness that hides their own weakness from only themselves. Like the lies that cover the Zionist criminal ideology, it cannot support itself with reason or truth.

This is what being a neo-Nazi equates to. Reduced to following up in a mindless parrot like mimicry words and racist slurs that show the shallow, petty and pathetic attempts at Naziesque 'wit'.

While only demonstrating the empty ideology that can only imitate and never create. All the time believing themself as being oh so clever as they are stuck in a self serving blindness that hides their own weakness from only themselves. Like the lies that cover the rabid anti-Zionist criminal ideology, it cannot support itself with reason or truth.

Here’s the problem for the zionists.
Right here, you’re reading it. It’s called open publishing even if, at times, heavily interfered with by agencies that show in real man hours, the threat that IMC can and is; the single most potent weapon the people have.
Forbidden thought.
Out here on the wire for all that wish to see, the mindset of what could be called the reactionary forces of colonial imperialism. Zionism is particular.
Its singular foundation of collution with the notable nazi implimentors and the mythology of its claims to other people’s lands and lives are a house of cards.
Reading the open discussion above and below the harrassment, spam and noise is instructive.
Another thing.
The opportunistic predation upon the host this ideology has selected to act as its vehicle and sacrificial beast.
I’m certain, reading these threads, one can see who this sacrificial beast is, and a template of the minds of these parasites who wrap the actions of horror in the Jewish faith.
It’s getting more difficult to hide and by the actions of these agents, right here, right now, we see how life would be under the iron of their occupation.

Well sure.
Got no beef against the Jews.
I sure have one about cults whom wrap themselves in the religion of others without their consent, with a huge military that practice racial/ethnic genocide.
Look up Genocide.

Look up Genocide.

Sure did.

Its sorta the opposite of genocide. The Palestinians have increased their population tremendously- from 500,000 to 4 million in less than 60 years. Their birthrate is among the highest in the world. The genocide machine must be stuck in reverse

I know this is the standard retort
" they keep on BREEDING and SURVIVING and they EVEN INCREASE IN THEIR NUMBERS!"
Despite the GENOCIDE -
[ Genocide is the mass killing of a group of people as defined by Article 2 of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (CPPCG) as "any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, as such: killing members of the group; causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life, calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; and forcibly transferring children of the group to another group." ]
-Which you obviously think no one else can read for themselves-
And you think that because the israelis are NOT SUCCESSFUL at wiping the Palestinians out or driving them all out or starving them out, it isn't what it plainly is, GENOCIDE.
Piss off.

arguing w/maniacs. Or weasel attorneys.
-There is no "intent".-
Bullshit.
It's just that these things must be delicately done. All that funding, you know.
Can't just slaughter them all outright, as this would provoke even American outrage. Your kind would rather do it piecemeal. Behind a woven tapestry of victimhood. And Jewishness.

So the brilliant tactians of Israel, with their dozens of Nobel Laureates decided the best way to do away with the Palestinian people was to decrease their infant mortality through education, medical clinics and improved infrastructure.
Damn -those Israelis are clever . Genocide through population explosion and improved living standards. No one would ever expect THAT.
Okay. gotcha. Over and out.

Let's talk about violence and factional killing. Thank you.
Are you referring to the death squads run by the mossad in the ghettoes that the IDF control down to the movement in and out of these prison populations?
Is that what you're typing about?

So- is it Fatah or is it Hamasthat is run by the Mossad?
Just wondering.
And show us some evidence to back this up.
We'll be waiting

Oh, I don't know.
Will this .png carry?
Oh well, use a search engine
mossad +Palestine +occupied
But I'll try this

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-ridicule.html

Description of Appeal to Ridicule

The Appeal to Ridicule is a fallacy in which ridicule or mockery is substituted for evidence in an "argument." This line of "reasoning" has the following form:

1. X, which is some form of ridicule is presented (typically directed at the claim).
2. Therefore claim C is false.

This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because mocking a claim does not show that it is false. This is especially clear in the following example: "1+1=2! That's the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard!"

It should be noted that showing that a claim is ridiculous through the use of legitimate methods (such as a non fallacious argument) can make it reasonable to reject the claim. One form of this line of reasoning is known as a "reductio ad absurdum" ("reducing to absurdity"). In this sort of argument, the idea is to show that a contradiction (a statement that must be false) or an absurd result follows from a claim. For example: "Bill claims that a member of a minority group cannot be a racist. However, this is absurd. Think about this: white males are a minority in the world. Given Bill's claim, it would follow that no white males could be racists. Hence, the Klan, Nazis, and white supremists are not racist organizations."

Since the claim that the Klan, Nazis, and white supremists are not racist organizations is clearly absurd, it can be concluded that the claim that a member of a minority cannot be a racist is false.
Examples of Appeal to Ridicule

1. "Sure my worthy opponent claims that we should lower tuition, but that is just laughable."

2. "Support the ERA? Sure, when the women start paying for the drinks! Hah! Hah!"

3. "Those wacky conservatives! They think a strong military is the key to peace!"

Fuck 'Sheepdog' the neo-Nazi.
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MDA enters Ramallah to save Palestinian baby.

For the first time since the intifada, an Israeli ambulance enters Judea-Samaria in order to evacuate critically injured baby.

A bullet-proof Israeli ambulance entered the city of Ramallah on Thursday in order to save a six-month old baby in critical condition after reportedly inhaling toxic substances.

This was the first time a Magen David Adom ambulance entered Judea-Samaria since the second intifada broke out in the year 2000.

Up until now, MDA ambulances would only go as far as the IDF checkpoints, where they would pick up Palestinian patients in need of medical care in
Israel.

Immediately after receiving the Palestinians' call for help, the Civil Administration's "West Bank" division called MDA requesting paramedics from Jerusalem take on the mission. Two Arab-Israeli paramedics took the call.

The paramedics evacuated the unconscious baby, just a few hours after two other babies, who went to the same daycare center as the boy, died of similar symptoms.

MDA believes the babies were poisoned, but it is not clear with what or how.

Upon arriving in Ramallah, the ambulance was escorted by a convoy of Palestinian police, who accompanied it all the way to the hospital, and blocked roads to ensure it got through safely.

The MDA team reported that the baby was handed over to them in a professional manner, along with all the needed medical documents. The team was in constant contact with the Jerusalem dispatch.

The baby was taken to the Hayyim Sheba Medical Center at Tel Ha-shomer, along with his parents, who received a special permit from the Civil Administration due to their son's serious condition.

A source from the Palestinian Ministry of Health told Ynet that all humanitarian matters, especially those concerning human lives, should be separated from political issues.

Ali Waked contributed to this report

Damn those inefficient Israelis and their failed genocide!

oh yeah, ;like I've never [puke ] seen this.
( ahem )
So sweet.

This, of course, makes up for the deadly constant incursions into these walled prisons, being held up at check points so OTHER pregnant women die, etc. etc...

Like I said, piss off.

We have your number.

Here's a handkerchief for ya.

..... for those who didn't know,Sheepdog;s number is BEachwood 4-5789

Whats the area code?

I've been wai-aiting, standing here so patiently
Fo-oh-oh-or you to come over and have this dance with me
And my number is Beechwood 4-5789
You can call me up and have a date any old time


Any one else want to dance with dogs?
I prefer to dance with my own species, generally

in every Starbucks in Santa Pendejoe.
Life will be great.

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/children.html

(snip)


118 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 926 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since September 29, 2000.

(snip)

Oh indeed I do. M16s are rather more like what israelis teach their children to shoot.
You individuals are despicable.

An ad hominem is not a rebuttal.

>Oh indeed I do. M16s are rather more like what israelis teach their children to shoot.

Prove it, neo-Nazi a**hole -- post reliable sources. Don't forget you've already long been relegated to the den of liars, arch-racists, and those making allegations they can never back up.

They still have those shitty squirrel cage flash suppressors.
They never got my M14. A real rifle.

So in essence we have some *children* being taught how to use an expensive, unreliable weapon that the resistance would never ( but yahoos that think these squirrel guns are combat weapons, would, that's for sure ) use in a field environment, by 'adults who pose for such events.
Any other observations?

There was a photo ( now hidden ) of an adult with two children in a prone position with M16s, apparently instructing in their use..
http://la.indymedia.org/news/hidden.php?id=195631#196516
This was *labeled* as 'Palestinian children" when they are most likely israeli with these American made weapons which are much more expensive and far less likely to be used by the Palestinian resistance.
Can one get any lower than accusing others of heinous actions the accuser is actually, in fact doing? Like using children.
Worse than 'dancing' with a dog.
Typical.

M-16s are prized on the West Bank for their ability to use readily available Israeli ammunition and for their numerous accessories, such as telescopic sights and grenade launchers. (Growing in popularity among Palestinians is the newer, short-barreled version, the M-4.) Luft says M-16s come on the West Bank black market along many different routes—they're smuggled in from Gaza, after being sneaked in there via tunnels from Egypt, and from Jordan; they come in on ships; are stolen from Israeli army depots and settlements; are captured in clashes with Israelis; and are sold by Israeli criminals. Getting M-16s takes serious financing that's out of reach for the West Bank students and unemployed who squeeze their triggers—in that neighborhood, they cost about $1,500 apiece.

As a quartermaster of an impoverished, undergound resistance force, would you issue such an expensive and hard to obtain weapon to children, or to your elite forces?

"would you issue such an expensive and hard to obtain weapon to children, or to your elite forces?"

What is usually done is that a large mob will gather, men and unfortunately, boys. They will pass around a single M-16 and take turns firing on Israelis. (A friend of mine was on the receiving end of this form of attack- thats how I know.). My friend was armed, but how could he shot back? There was no single gunman to aim at. Shoting in the air does no good. So you aim at the current gunman in the crowd, but then the gun is passed to someone else. If you do eventually fire, the crowd disperses, the gun along with them and victim is left behind "unarmed". And Alison Weir adds them to her statistics- another "innocent" child killed by the vicious Israelis. And that is why everyone, including boys, are trained in the use of all these weapons.

Look, just because you individuals were caught red handed, not only with your pants down with the staged and clumsy propaganda photo which really shows the * despicable* *hypocrisy* and *perverted* zionazi practice of children use, but now you are all tripping over your stubs to cover it over w/bullsh*t.
Now that's sweet.

gone off topic to distract you with a bald faced lie, or it expects you to believe that the firearm instruction of a couple of bkids, not unlike that experienced by most rural American youth, someghow justifies the cold blooded murder of an old man in a wheelchair.

These people are shameless hypocrites. If that old man were a Jew instead of a Muslim, they'd be screaming blue bloody murder about anti-Semitism, and barbarity of the Arab people. When the apartheid regime commites extrajudicial murder, they tell you it's "self defense," but when Arabs do it, it's further proof that they're "savages."

I just wanted to point out the usual perversion of the truth this photo was.
http://la.indymedia.org/news/hidden.php?id=195631#196516
And you're right about the distractions away from the also usual regard for the residents of Palestine.
I merely wished to point out the depth of this sect's ideology.
Nothing is too low.

What hypocrites the Zionists are.

There is no logical reason Israelis would be writing in English, unless it was to cater to an American/English audience.
This was a set up.

they know which side their bread is buttered on.

or maybe Hizballah, or Hamas or Fatah.

In the public relations battle brewing on-line, there is a new eye to the center of the storm surrounding the war with Hizbullah - a series of photos showing Israeli children writing messages on shells meant for targets in Lebanon.

Questions over the photos' authenticity have been put to rest by authorities that were present during the incident, which occurred on July 17 near the northern border. The mostly local children had been brought to see the shells by their parents. Although it remains unclear who encouraged them to write the messages, their colorful scribbles, including a Star of David, hearts, and "From Israel, with Love," have appeared in dozens of blogs, or on-line journals, and on-line photo hosting sites.

Although the IDF has failed to issue a response to the incident, a spokesman from the IDF said it "appeared as though the situation occurred unofficially." Although an officer was present during the incident, the soldiers, and the IDF as a whole, did not condone or condemn the incident.

An official close to Israel's public relations campaign said that there was "no way" to spin the incident in a positive light. "Some people are simply irresponsible," said the official.

On-line, the photos are being called "horrifying," "disgusting" and "despicable." "I still cannot understand why or how anyone would allow their young children to walk up to missiles or other explosives. The militarization of children is always a crime," said one user by the name of "aviv2b" on the Guardian Web site, which ran a lengthy discussion about the photos.

Another reader, by the name barbicanangel posted that "I still say Israel is right in this war, however, the picture of young Jewish girls signing the shells is quite disturbing."

Although the photos were first taken by professional photographers from AFP, Associated Press, and Haaretz, they were circulated on-line through the popular photo-hosting Web site Flickr.com. That site republished the photos, bringing them to the attention of hundreds who later posted them on their own personal sites.

Many users on both the flickr and Guardian Web sites said that the images proved how difficult it was for a country to control their public relations image on-line. "There is no way to tell how, when, where, or why these photos were taken," said one anonymous poster. "We have to rely on the people hosting the Web sites, who have no official accountability hanging over their heads at all."

Over the years, there have been a number of photos that have been popularized by the on-line community such as photos of young Palestinian babies dressed as suicide bombers, or Israeli children in Purim costumes mocking Palestinian political officials.

or maybe Hizballah, or Hamas or Fatah.

Why are they writing in English?
And if you look at the photos, the English is filled with strange spelling errors - with is spelled "whith", for example.

Maybe the IDF is perpetrating a fraud on behalf of the ISM , and the AFP, Associated Press, and Haaretz are in on it.

A small error message.
$6,000,000+ a year Monday, Apr. 09, 2007 at 2:41 PM is off a bit.
It's more like $6,000,000,000/yr in 'Aid' to israel.
And our schools have no books or working restrooms.
Just shows who the 'reps' work for.

And $5 billion to Egypt and Jordan, and they don't even vote our way in the UN

All military aid should cease. We only use it to bolster the very nastiest regimes.
Egypt or Jordan however, doesn't have AIPAC to shepherd the hogs at the troth in Washington DC.
Or their fanatic supporters everywhere like lice.

they don't 'vote our way '...
Bribery and threats only go so far.

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