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Friday, Jul. 22, 2005 at 10:10 PM
did all 911 victims really die?
crosschecking is fine author: 911victimchecker most of the official 2996 911 victims never died on 911? see folks,some loony conspiracy theorists at the white house contend 2996 people died in the 911 attacks.
convenient figure which has been more or less stable now for the past 3 years - convenient because it's more than the official pearl harbor toll and if one pearl harbor broke america's isolationism go figure a bigger-than-pearl-toll on 911...
so 2 wars have ensued so far with tens of thousands of innocent deaths at the very least,the gestapoization of the us thru the patriot act etc
but:did those 2996 names really die on 911?
if so,how come only 662 of them reportedly had applied for the fat check with the victims compensation fund as of aug 22,2002?
http://wire.ap.org/APnews/center_story.html?FRONTID=NATIONAL&STORYID=APIS7MA43VG0
were the other 2,300 that is the vast majority of the alleged victims not interested in 1 million bucks average payouts?
could it be that 2300 out of 2996 were fabricated so as to create a bigger-than-pearl-toll?
and how come the final report of the said victims comp fund does not give us a listing of the applicants/receivers?
mmmmmmmmmm..............................
http://usdoj.gov/victimcompensation
i think it is incumbent on us citizens to check and verify whether 2996 people really died on 911 or not.
let's kick it off with the alleged-planes' alleged occupants.
AA11 - AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 11 - is the first plane alleged to have hit the north wtc tower at 8.46 am local time on 911.
as of this writing - july 21,2005 - doubt has been mounting for years that AA11 never hit that tower:
1.nobody saw it,or witnesses are unverifiable. 2.the naudet video does not enable us to make out AA11 and is gravely suspect of being a fake: http://www.911hoax.com 3.according to BTS data as of nov 13,2003 AA11 was NOT on record as having been scheduled at all on 911: http://members.iinet.net.au/~holmgren/1177.html 4.a crossexamination of the alleged AA11 occupants minus the hijackers on 911 thru the SSDI search shows that almost all are not on record as having died on 911 http://letsroll911.org/ipw-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=7702& (see comment "flight 11 eyeball" posted fri june 24,2005,1:26 pm by brianv
therefore we may provisorily conclude THERE IS NO EVIDENCE AT ALL THAT AA11 EVER STRUCK THE NORTH WTC TOWER ON 911.
none of the above 4 points per se constitutes hard evidence that it didn't strike,but it is incumbent upon bush to prove his baseless allegation that it struck not on us to prove it didn't.
but since bush cannot for the time being be forced to testify,let's keep on researching.
one of the first,very first alleged-AA11 alleged occupant splashed on the media cum photo was a fellow anna williams allison,allegedly of stoneham,massachusetts,alleged founder and chief of A2 software company - which i did not find on the net. http://www.september11victims.com/september11victims/VICTIM_SEARCH.asp
now,she is not recorded as dead by the SSDI (social security death index - almost 4 years later: http://www.stevemorse.org/ssdi/ssdi.html
check it for yourselves.
now from the legacy.com tributes or alleged tributes we can read on the cnn site linked above,we learn that anna allison's husband is or was blake allison.
so i entered blake allison in the stoneham ma white pages and i found that he is listed,alongside...ANNA ALLISON,IN JULY 1995,AS IF SHE WAS INDEED EXISTENT,ALIVE AND WELL AND THE ACTUAL WIFE OF BLAKE'S.
verify for yourselves by googling stoneham ma white pages and entering blake allison,stoneham ma
you'll also get for free their zip,02180
and their phone nr.
NOW WHAT ARE THE ODDS THERE'S MORE BLAKE AND ANNA ALLISONS IN STONEHAM,MA?
NO OTHER BLAKE/ANNA ALLISON PAIR IS LISTED.
THERE ARE OTHER ALLISONS BUT NO BLAKE/ANNA.
and if you got money to spend which i don't,the search site intelius will give you a lot more info about those 2,but it's expensive anyway worth the money if you have it.
now the SSDI argument is not conclusive because not all dead are registered there for various reasons - i myself entered a 911 victim i'm sure really died and found nothing.
BUT WHAT ARE THE ODDS THAT OUT OF 87 ALLEGED AA11 OCCUPANT MINUS THE HIJACKERS ONLY A HANDFUL ARE ON RECORD AS HAVING DIED ON 911?
it's high time for the hard checks folks.
help me,i'm only just begun: locate phone nrs and call! locate addresses and knock!!!
WE HAVE GOT TO FIND OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
according to the alleged tributes at http://www.september11victims.com a fellow pupil samantha iambiasi of an alleged echold middle school wrote a tribute to anna wiliams allison
but a google search and a yellow pages search of echold middle school,which from elsewhere i found is alleged to be in northport alabama,turned up NOTHING on said alleged school and no iambiasi in alabama
faked tributes?...
only 24 out of 87
alleged AA11 occupants on record with the SSDI as having died on 911:
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes;read=5478
now go to:
http://www.whitepages.ca/10002/search/Find_Person?firstname=blake&name=allison&cityzip=Stoneham&state_id=MA
and it'll cough up only ONE search result for blake allison in stoneham ma:
and coupled with an anna...
now the odds these are not the people mentioned in the 911 victims lists are astronomical...
and this is 4 years later and mr blake allison of stoneham ma is STILL listed as living with anna,as if the latter were still alive...
and:
from the above link we learn their zip code 02180 and their home phone and it gets more interesting.
if you enter anna'a alleged own-founded firm "A2 Software Solutions",you'll not only find nothing about it on google.
enter it at:
http://www.whitepages.ca/10002/business_search
for stoneham ma and you'll get...no matches found.
mmmmmmmmm...................
no real people,no firm,anna listed as still alive,no SSDI records for anna williams allison's death...
go to:
http://www.legacy.com/LegacyTribute/Sept11.asp?Page=TributeGuestBook&PersonID=91765&GuestPage=7
a purported robin haslach from Appleton,Wi writes on feb 12 2002 about "aunt anna".
how sweet of him.
pity that he doesn't appear to exist:
no matches found on whitepages.com. no matches found on intelius,not even nationwide.
http://www.wbwip.com/a2web/index.html
check that and it'll take you to a firm called A2 software,similar to the alleged A2 software solutions allegedly founded by the alleged anna allison of flight 11...
see false identities may be created by putting together tidbits of verisimilar reality...
let's not jump to conclusions here though.
no hard evidence yet that anna williams allison is a fake victim or a fabricated person altogether.
actually,one person confirmed the anna story:
go to
http://www.legacy.com/LegacyTribute/Sept11.asp?Page=TributeGuestBook&PersonID=91765&GuestPage=3
and you'll find a tribute to anna allison signed Sarah Preston of Severna Park,MD and dated sept 10,2002
now sarah's number is a matter of public record,it's on whitepages.com
and if you call her she'll very politely tell you that she's anna allison's first cousin,that she seems to remember having written that tribute or cowritten it with her husband,and that anna williams allison died on sept 11.
how about that?
anyway,mrs sarah preston sure sounds gentle natural and spontaneous on the phone.
but i do not know her personally so i cannot logically rule out she may be a plant.
but let's assume that appearances are right and that sarah preston is indeed anna williams allison's first cousin and that anna died on 911.
so we 'd have a real 911 victim as opposed to a fake one,fabrication or whatever.
but sarah preston wasn't on AA11 so she cannot confirm the AA11 story .
in other words,the question remains open re HOW exactly anna died on 911.
all doubts about the naudet video,the bts data etc remain valid.
anna may have actually gone to boston logan that fateful morning to catch AA11,and maybe she found out there was no AA11 and was moved on to UA 175 - this was gerald holmgren's working hypothesis for instance.
or she may have actually caught AA11 and then been diverted godknowswhere and killed.
to sum it up so far:
the sarah preston tribute on legacy.com appears to be real for once,and confirmed. but strict logic we must adhere to does not enable us to rule out 100% mrs preston may not be telling the truth. or even know the truth for that matter.
sarah preston will tell you she's anna allison's first cousin and she really died on 911.
but sarah preston has no way to confirm just exactly HOW anna died.
all webfairy and holmgren doubts re AA11 remain standing.
more checks are needed.
help if you will,this is all-important.
comments: 1.i do not think that per se the verifiable fact that a blake allison is listed with an anna allison in stoneham ma constitutes conclusive evidence that anna is still alive.
quite more simply,whitepages.com may have just kept the old pre-911 entry and nobody bothered to notify the change.
2.anyway in general i praise the author for his endeavor at personally checking the victim story.
allison sure needs more crosschecking then the apparent maryland cousin.
taking my cue from the author,i checked legacy.com and started inquiring about another alleged AA11 victim,a fellow david seima aoyama.
he's far more mysterious and elusive than the transparent (apparently) allison.
he was purportedly a japanese who came to the us in 1977 and was lastly living in culver city ca.
now according to:
http://www.legacy.com/dailyitem/Sept11.asp?Page=TributeGuestBook&PersonID=91769
aoyama had worked many years at the chicago cultural center.
so i called the ch.cult.cent. 312.913.1211 and first i got a woman who had never heard of a david seima aoyama...
then she put me thru to a fellow mr hamada or amada i'm unsure of the spelling.
hamada said he's been working at the ch.c.c. for 15 years. so i asked him twice if he'd met aoyama and - i may have misunderstood,whatever but - hamada twice refused to reply.
he just did not reply to my reiterated question.
he just told me aoyama had passed away,which i'd sort of like heard before...
and then he gave me the number of sgi santa monica,the headquarters of a buddhist association aoyama apparently had belonged to and worked for - i haven't had time to call yet.
maybe you wanna give it a try? 310.260.8900
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| One thing we do know |
Sheepdog |
Friday, Jul. 22, 2005 at 10:24 PM |
| YES BUT |
to a point |
Friday, Jul. 22, 2005 at 10:35 PM |
| I have footage |
Hex |
Friday, Jul. 22, 2005 at 10:58 PM |
| Re: footage |
Hex |
Friday, Jul. 22, 2005 at 11:24 PM |
| we're still waitin',hex |
to a point |
Friday, Jul. 22, 2005 at 11:25 PM |
| additional audio |
Sheepdog |
Friday, Jul. 22, 2005 at 11:27 PM |
| wrong footage but - |
Hex |
Friday, Jul. 22, 2005 at 11:46 PM |
| waitin' |
waitin' |
Friday, Jul. 22, 2005 at 11:53 PM |
| the william rodriguez |
story is bogus |
Saturday, Jul. 23, 2005 at 12:08 AM |
| ok I'm back |
Hex |
Saturday, Jul. 23, 2005 at 12:16 AM |
| Ho Hum |
K. glascow |
Saturday, Jul. 23, 2005 at 12:21 AM |
| Author: story is bogus |
Sheepdog |
Saturday, Jul. 23, 2005 at 12:24 AM |
| hex is a troll |
story is bogus |
Saturday, Jul. 23, 2005 at 12:38 AM |
| and then it hit me ! |
Hex |
Saturday, Jul. 23, 2005 at 12:48 AM |
| collecting information |
Hex |
Saturday, Jul. 23, 2005 at 1:11 AM |
| doesn't look fake to me |
Hex |
Saturday, Jul. 23, 2005 at 1:44 AM |
| ok I just went over it frame-by-frame |
Hex |
Saturday, Jul. 23, 2005 at 2:04 AM |
| it's a bit warm outside |
H`e`x |
Saturday, Jul. 23, 2005 at 4:53 AM |
| "And we didn't land on the Moon. " |
Almost |
Saturday, Jul. 23, 2005 at 6:11 AM |
| Of course |
he does |
Saturday, Jul. 23, 2005 at 6:12 AM |
| I think he was being sarcastic |
Hex |
Saturday, Jul. 23, 2005 at 6:25 AM |
| Perchance |
have my doubts |
Saturday, Jul. 23, 2005 at 11:44 PM |
| -this Sheepdog character- |
The one and only... |
Sunday, Jul. 24, 2005 at 12:23 AM |
| faked moon landing |
Hex |
Sunday, Jul. 24, 2005 at 12:31 AM |
| to put it bluntly |
Hex |
Sunday, Jul. 24, 2005 at 12:45 AM |
| oh that's a good one |
Hex |
Sunday, Jul. 24, 2005 at 10:42 AM |
| Now now hex. |
fresca |
Sunday, Jul. 24, 2005 at 12:56 PM |
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Hex |
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| is someone getting hostile ? |
Hex |
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fresca |
Sunday, Jul. 24, 2005 at 10:56 PM |
| Entertainment |
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Sunday, Jul. 24, 2005 at 11:09 PM |
| "nothing" has proven very satisfying |
Hex |
Sunday, Jul. 31, 2005 at 2:21 AM |
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