A government presides over this misery that in the interests of peace and order one cannot really discuss. We leave it to others to judge whether it represents America's interests or those of our capitalist tormenters.

We however demand a government of national labor, statesmen who are men and whose aim is the creation of a Socialist state.

These days anyone has the right to speak in America— the Jew, the Frenchman, the Englishman, the League of Nations, the conscience of the world and the Devil knows who else. Everyone but the American worker. He has to shut up and work. Every four years he elects a new set of torturers, and everything stays the same. That is unjust and treasonous. We need tolerate it no longer. We have the right to demand that only Americans who build this state may speak, those whose fate is bound to the fate of their fatherland.

Therefore we demand the annihilation of the system of exploitation! Up with the American worker's state!

America for the Americans!

Down with nationalism, and up with human beings. We don't need kings or dictators to exist, and they prevent our freedom.

"Fatherland" my ass. You're not a intenationalist. You're not a globalist. You're shit.

Hitler tried to pull this garbage. Freedom and Socialism for Germans, but only through the expansion of the German empire. Only through ejection and extermination of those not ethnically German. Fuck that. Freedom for everyone.

I read between the lines.

I love America, but not in the way you love it. Your love is just a mirror of hate.

America for Democracy. America for People Power.

Slaves and immigrants.

Slaves and immigrants.

Learn your history, you revisionist. The country was built with the sweat of those who work hardest, and that's always been the slaves and immigrants. Immigrants of all colors. Slaves of all colors, but mainly Black.

And it's all on Indian land. The land was taken, and treaties were broken.

The owners and masters take the wealth, the profits, and spend them on history books that lie about who really does the work, and where the wealth originates.

We are an anti-parliamentarian party that rejects for good reasons the American constitution and its republican institutions. We oppose a fake democracy that treats the intelligent and the foolish, the industrious and the lazy in the same way. We see in the present system of majorities and organized irresponsibility the main cause of our steadily increasing miseries.

Nationalism is more wide-reaching than internationalism. It sees things as they are. Only he who respects himself can respect others. If as a American nationalist I affirm America, how can I hold it against a Jewish nationalist who affirms Israel? Only when these affirmations conflict in vital ways will there be a power-political struggle. Internationalism cannot undo this reality. Its attempts at proof fail completely. And even when the facts seem to have some validity, nature, blood, the will to life, and the struggle for existence on this hard earth prove the falsity of fine theories.

-how can I hold it against a Jewish nationalist who affirms Israel?-

The use of force to protect theft and murder is also a sin.

Who is the Nazi now?

Are you talking about the Nazis and Zionists working together with Adolph Eichmann?

Look it up.

Why Are We Socialists?

We are socialists because we see in socialism, that is the union of all citizens, the only chance to maintain our political inheritance and to regain our political freedom and renew our American state.

Socialism is the doctrine of liberation for the working class. It promotes the rise of the working class and its incorporation in the political organism of our country, and is inextricably bound to breaking the present slavery and the regaining of American freedom. Socialism therefore is not merely a matter of the oppressed class, but a matter for everyone, for freeing the American people from slavery is the goal of contemporary policy. Socialism gains its true form only through a total combat brotherhood with the forward-striving energies of a newly awakened nationalism. Without nationalism it is nothing, a phantom, a mere theory, a castle in the sky, a book. With it it is everything, the future, freedom, the fatherland!

All of mother earth united for justice, you moron. Without union with the other oppressed people of the world we are alone and divided.

Why a Workers' Party?

Work is not mankind's curse, but his blessing. A man becomes a man through labor. It elevates him, makes him great and aware, raises him above all other creatures. It is in the deepest sense creative, productive and culture-producing. Without labor, no food. Without food, no life.

The idea that the dirtier one's hands get, the more degrading the work is not an American idea. As in every other area, the American first asks how, then what. It is less a question of the position I fill, and more a question of how well I do the duty that God has given me.

We call ourselves a workers' party because we want to rescue the word work from its current definition and give it back its original meaning. Anyone who creates value is a creator, that is, a worker. We refuse to distinguish kinds of work. Our only standard is whether the work serves the whole, or at least does not harm it, or if it is harmful. Work is service. If it works against the general welfare, then it is treason against the Fatherland.

Today's leftists won't touch the "nationalism" plank with a ten foot pole.

But before 1933 when Hitler took over Germany, the Nazi planks were basically:

1. We are Nationalists.

2. We are Socialists.

3. We are a workers party.

4. We are against the Jews.

Todays leftists won't touch the Nationalism plank .

But three out of four isn't bad.

It was fresh and new in the 1800s and early 1900s, but today, it's tired. Time to move on to new ideas, and new ways to organize ourselves. Everyone knows that nationalism and racism are two sides of the same coin.

Here's an annotated version of the original post. Red flags everywhere:

Why Are We Socialists?

We are socialists because we see in socialism, that is the union of all citizens, the only chance to maintain our political inheritance and to regain our political freedom and renew our American state.

Socialism is the doctrine of liberation for the working class. It promotes the rise of the working class and its incorporation in the political organism of our country, and is inextricably bound to breaking the present slavery and the regaining of American freedom. Socialism therefore is not merely a matter of the oppressed class, but a matter for everyone, for freeing the American people from slavery is the goal of contemporary policy. Socialism gains its true form only through a total combat brotherhood with the forward-striving energies of a newly awakened nationalism. Without nationalism it is nothing, a phantom, a mere theory, a castle in the sky, a book. With it it is everything, the future, freedom, the fatherland!

What a piece of deception, "nationalist socialist."

This post has only convinced me that it's pointless to try and soften rhetoric with nationalism. It will only set the stage for fascists to enter with their propaganda masquerading as socialists.

Somehow leftists have retained all the virulent Nazi qualities and have tossed out love of country. They've hardwired it into their brains that Socialism is great, that the working class should rule, and that the Jews are scourge. But to them patriotism and nationalism is the same as racism. Talk about dain bramage.

hey that's communism!

Stupid workers running things like their own pention funds and health benifits and wages and production! Masses of Workers talking to each other about the rules and what to vote for. Stupid commies.

Who are al-Qaida but pan-Arab nationalists. They are racists who believe in one Arab state. Nationalism is the inspiration for war. It's the flipside of racism, which gives you mental license to kill those unlike yourself.

Nationalism is popular with the working class, because it's an effective crutch to overcome the self-hatred we suffer, as people of the working class. Capitalism has stripped us of dignity and meaning, and nationalism can restore it, but at a price.

Look at all the poor kids who end up fighting wars to protect rich peoples' property. Their nationalism is whipped up, because they want so badly to prove their Americanness, to not only serve a country that's screwed them over, but to do it to make some money and get job skills, and "get their shit together".

Subconsciously, they know something else too. They know that the violence they're going to use against others will be a pass that grants them access to power. They know this because their own power was taken from them, through violence. Violence is the game. The violated become the violators.

You can bet that the people who are willing to go to war against America, and Americans willing to go to war against them, are drinking from the same bottle of Nationalist Malt Liquor, getting oiled up to fight.

They both bought that bottle from the same liquor store, too, called "Capitalist Exploitation Liquors and Jr. Market". It was just another cold beer to deal with the stress of work, of the hassles on the job, and of the lack of respect we get in the marketplace. You can even pick your brand identity: Mickey's, Olde English, Colt 45, the Bull.

Nationalism, like alcoholism, is a dead end.

Love of country (like love of beer) is a substitute for loving and respecting ourselves and others, as people.

A truer source of self-respect will come from mutual respect. All work has dignity, and must be accorded respect. No job is to be demeaned, and no worker should be paid so little that they cannot live with dignity.

(And, I say this as someone who likes beer.)

...creations and insturments of the CIA. Then and now.

Why Are We Nationalists?

We are nationalists because we see the nation as the only way to bring all the forces of the nation together to preserve and improve our existence and the conditions under which we live.

The nation is the organic union of a people to protect its life. To be national is to affirm this union in word and deed. To be national has nothing to do with a form of government or a symbol. It is an affirmation of things,not forms. Forms can change, their content remains. If form and content agree, then the nationalist affirms both. If they conflict, the nationalist fights for the content and against the form. One may not put the symbol above the content. If that happens, the battle is on the wrong field and one's strength is lost in formalism. The real aim of nationalism, the nation, is lost.

That is how things are today in America. Nationalism has turned into bourgeois patriotism and its defenders are battling windmills. One says America and means the dictatorship. Another proclaims freedom and means red, white, & blue. Would our situation today be any different if we replaced the republic with a monarchy and flew the red, white, & blue flag? The colony would have different wallpaper, but its nature, its content would stay the same. Indeed, things would be even worse, for a facade that conceals the facts dissipates the forces today fighting against slavery.

Sounds like Sheepdog has had a bit too much malt liquor. Here. Try some of my hunch punch, Sheepdog.

Just wondering, but what exactly makes YOU a member of the working class? Blogging on the next ain't exactly work.

Sure, it's all about Sheepdog and his DRINKING problem...

(I prefer the insanity clause but these weasels are not very imaginative) but 7 $Billion towards the Pakistani ISI in creating the 'freedom fighters' of al CIAduh is profusely documented. Let the reader do their own digging.

try this thread on the situation about Jonestown and Koolaid!

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/04/51708.php

Have fun.

Now Sheepdog is claiming that the CIA financed and trained Al Quaeda? Tell me more Sheepdog. Where do the aliens and Area 52 come in to all this?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,98115,00.html

"In the course of researching my book on Bill Clinton and bin Laden, I interviewed Bill Peikney, who was CIA station chief in Islamabad from 1984 to 1986, and Milt Bearden, who was CIA station chief from 1986 to 1989. These two men oversaw the disbursement for all American funds to the anti-Soviet resistance. Both flatly denied that any CIA funds ever went to bin Laden. They felt so strongly about this point that they agreed to go on the record, an unusual move by normally reticent intelligence officers. Mr. Peikney added in an e-mail to me: “I don’t even recall UBL [bin Laden] coming across my screen when I was there.”

"There are many reasons to believe them. They knew where the money went. Both men have retired from the CIA; they have no motive to mouth an agency line. And no compelling evidence has emerged that the CIA ever paid bin Laden: no cancelled checks, no invoices, no government reports."

dig dug for your springhead response, but I said let the reader do their own digging. I'm certain you have many links to Ministry of Truth releases. And pungent critique of any I would provide.

Call it an exercise in analysis for sato grati.

Aint the information flare great?

"I'm certain you have many links to Ministry of Truth releases. "

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=CIA+Al+Qaeda+myth&spell=1

Let me guess: Now Sheepdog will claim that Google and the rest of the internet search engines are in on the conspiracy.

How predictable.

We're conducting experiments on him. His whole existence is an excercise in memetics.

I love this sh*t.

"Now Sheepdog is claiming that the CIA financed and trained Al Quaeda? "

In the same way that we "trained and created " Al Queda, we would also be responsible if by chance some 60 year old former South Vietnamese soldier converted to islam , formed a terrorist group and attacked us.

After all, at some point American tax dollars went towards his armaments and upkeep.

That bin laden created Al Queda out of the support we gave the Afganis to fight Russia is hardly "creating" them.

Now if sheepdog is claiming that the CIA created ISlam as a tool of oppression and terror then he might well have something.

"Now if sheepdog is claiming that the CIA created ISlam as a tool of oppression and terror then he might well have something."

No he wouldn't.

I would say the al CIAduh was an operational asset up untill and durring 9-11. Could still be, in fact probaly is. We were wiring money to the cutout of Mohamad Atta I believe that morning durring brunch with later to be appointed to the head of the wonderful CIA.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-809840,curpg-2.cms

-Goss was having a breakfast meeting in Washington with the then ISI chief Mahmoud Ahmad at the exact instant the 9/11 hijackers flew their planes into the World Trade Center. Ahmad was a Taliban supporter who was subsequently removed from his job when he continued to bat for the outlaw regime post 9/11.

-Some reports have suggested that Ahmad and the ISI had links to -- or foreknowledge about -- 9/11. A money transfer from Karachi to the hijackers in Florida has never been fully explored or explained. Ahmad was never called to account for this or his support to the Taliban post 9/11 even as General Musharraf moved him into the shadows. -

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could just be me and my wild thoughts.

"could just be me and my wild thoughts. "

More than likely.

As always you squeek around behind my posts like a little girl.

Don't you know it takes a man to piss out a fire?

I think I'll just pass on that one. A wee bit too homoerotic for me.

...speaking of homoerotic, where's jaggoff?

homo-erotic huh? Talk about projection.

I meant that fresca should (when she had use of her body below C5 and wasn't living in an iron lung venting her bitterness) know that she wouldn't be able to lift up her shirt and wizz out a moderate fire. Oh and stop following me around all the time. You have Jack.