This is an excellent expose of hatred online against minorities in the U.S.

UPI is owned by the same media group that owns the Washington Times, a conservative newspaper. The group was started by and is influenced by the Unification Church (Moonies).

The article isn't that bad, but, it does have a certain spin to it. The author doesn't contact many non-church groups that deal with racism; there are hundreds of civil rights groups representing the hated groups (gays, Jewish people, Mulsims, Arabs, etc.).

The author also mentions the URL for a white racist bonehead website. This is like telling someone that there's rampant online porn, and then putting a few URLs for porn sites in the story. You spin the story one way, but then, help people who are ostensibly "the bad guys" get more information.

This post can be a bogus "crumb trail" designed to lure IMC readers to the UPI site, and maybe to stormfront. The WP movement appeals to paranoids and whites with some self-esteem issues, and, at some level, they know that the IMC also has some appeal to people with emotional issues.

That's just some food for thought.

Despite the concerted efforts of certain factions of PC tyrants who hold opposing viewpoints, so-called "hate groups" have just as much right to express their views as so-called "civil rights" groups. (If the article [whose link is currently broken] wants to mention "Stormfront," so what? Isn't "Moveon.org" free advertising)?

That this is even an issue in the USA proves that PC thugs are just as insidious a threat as State censors.

There's a double standard at work and it's damned if you do OR don't for the White Peoples of the world.

On one hand, say the propagandists, race "doesn't matter" because "everyone is equal." This is the argument used to rewrite history, depicting Whites solely as villains and never as the builders of and major contributors to Great Civilizations. It's also the same lie used to attack Christianity or any other entity that places the individual above the State.

On the other hand, certain races "require special treatment and privileges" because they can't (or won't) compete as well as others.

These groups have creatively found extra-legal "rights" in a legally egalitarian society to preserve their exclusive "unique cultures" replete with "(fill in oppressed minority)-only" awards shows,

holidays, tv stations, scholarships, literature, etc.

Only Whites--and Whites alone--are not allowed to have "their own" anything and live free of forced integration. I've never heard a plausible reason why this is so, and would never expect one from any leftist.

This world is long overdue for a legitimate Whiteness movement apart from Holocaust deniers and anti-Semites.

WHITE PRIDE is not a myth or a sin any more than any other "(Blank) Pride."

PS. The paradox of guilty white liberals is that in order to "help" other races, they have to believe themselves superior to other races.

of course not.

hate is.

God is Love.

right?

Scott,

I challenge you or anyone else at this site to explain how Whites taking care of their own and loving their own culture somehow harms other races or cultures.

...you're the fuckin' nut...how 'bout you tell us why life as a white man has you feeling under the thumb of the dark skinned masses, pobrecito?

"...you're the fuckin' nut...how 'bout you tell us why life as a white man has you feeling under the thumb of the dark skinned masses, pobrecito?"

Ah yes. The One-Eye. You seem to be a fairly common poster around here. You're not serious about anything except getting your rocks off with insults.

I don't know what "pobrecito" means, but if it's an insult, have the fucking balls to write in English.

Though you're hardly the standard, your "threatened" attitude really says it all. I've posted questions which I know guilty white liberals have no answer for; specifically why they 'feel' WHITE = BAD.

It probably has something to do with the culture of victimhood, but if anyone has anything salient to add, have at it.

...now I have a dog, his name is "Tony"....very loyal...

...anyway, this dog barks at the TV screen whenever the news is on....

...now, he may think he has something to say, but it never entered my head to discuss it with him...

...your name wouldn't be "Tony", would it?

da MAN: "I don't know what "pobrecito" means, but if it's an insult, have the fucking balls to write in English. "

Oh, no...it is not an insult at all...more like an expression of compassion....

...y'all know what "compassion" is....other than a campaign slogan, right?

....for an insult, how about something simple for the gringo like "estupido"?

Now...you were telling an enthralling story of how da MAN is living under the thumbs of PC thugs...please....DO continue...

...but let me get some popcorn first.

da MAN: "...salient ...."



Oooooo....a "Reader's Digest" subscriber!

Oh, no...it is not an insult at all...more like an expression of compassion....

...y'all know what "compassion" is....other than a campaign slogan, right?

I forgot that liberals have a PATENT on compassion. I've never seen such COMPASSION, taking money from people who earned it and giving it to people who did not earn it, thus creating dependency on...liberals. That takes REAL HEART.

....for an insult, how about something simple for the gringo like "estupido"?

What's sad is, I know this is the best you can do.



"Let me buy you a pack of gum, I'll show you how to chew it."

pobrecito: "Let me buy you a pack of gum, I'll show you how to chew it."

What's sad is, I know this is the best you can do.

I probably wasn't being clear.

The article is against racism, however, it basically provides a URL to a WS website.

It's like saying this: "There's a lot of evil porn at corpsesex.com, and it is bad bad bad. There's also a group of parents up in arms against that and it's partner site horsedildo.com." Now... is this ultimately going to report... or support?

Also, that link works.

Your point is made, but what's the relevance?

You don't think anyone can simply google "hate groups'" and not find 100s of links?

The very term "Hate group" is Newspeak anyway.

"Moveon.org" and "Democratic underground" could also be considered hate groups.

The ADL has made a certain legal arguement for what constitutes a "hate crime." It is flawed and unconstitutional, but when politicians are cowards (when are they not) down goes the rule of law.

The relevance is simply that I question the point of the article.

Furthermore, I question the source. UPI is discredited.

As for all your other comments - whatever. You're not making much sense.

Then progresses into class analysis.

-"I've never seen such COMPASSION, taking money from people who earned it and giving it to people who did not earn it, thus creating dependency on...liberals."-

This intense Brownshirt sloganism of the new target, 'liberals' or 'terrorists' or my personal favorite, Anti Americans; is a example of this campaign of repression. Such tactics are not needed when the enemy holds all the cards. They know the threats and attempted bullying is required to hold this crumbling system together. Despite attempts to control the public mind, the WTF factor is every where and racism is a method of division. They really need it.Then progresses into class analysis.

-"I've never seen such COMPASSION, taking money from people who earned it and giving it to people who did not earn it, thus creating dependency on...liberals."-

This intense Brownshirt sloganism of the new target, 'liberals' or 'terrorists' or my personal favorite, Anti Americans; is a example of this campaign of repression. Such tactics are not needed when the enemy holds all the cards. They know the threats and attempted bullying is required to hold this crumbling system together. Despite attempts to control the public mind, the WTF factor is every where and racism is a method of division. They really need it.Then progresses into class analysis.

-"I've never seen such COMPASSION, taking money from people who earned it and giving it to people who did not earn it, thus creating dependency on...liberals."-

This intense Brownshirt sloganism of the new target, 'liberals' or 'terrorists' or my personal favorite, Anti Americans; is a example of this campaign of repression. Such tactics are not needed when the enemy holds all the cards. They know the threats and attempted bullying is required to hold this crumbling system together. Despite attempts to control the public mind, the WTF factor is every where and racism is a method of division. They really need it.

don't know why it did that.

There's something especially pathetic about politicians (or in this case, activist/followers) whose only recourse is to call opponents "brownshirt" and "nazi." It's the last gasp tactic of those unable or unwilling to step up to the plate.

So far, no one here can answer my very simple, very direct questions and commentary. Do Whites no longer have rights in this country? Why are only Whites disallowed from having racial pride? If certain races need handouts from other races to survive, are they really "equal?" Where in the First Amendment does it say "hate speech" is not protected?

It's VERY difficult for those who pose as victims to look the people they grift squarely in the eye.

But give it a try.

...would somebody PLEASE let the dog out?

..fuckin' whining mongrel...

Does anyone not in diapers have anything to add?

"you can't debate so you hate "

Nice rhyme, Eminem.

Nobody is stopping a white person from having "white pride". It's just something really rude, because, generally speaking, whites are not as often in situations when their personal pride and self esteem will be shattered by racism.

Some whites will be -- the poor ones, the hurt ones, the ones who see their opportunities eroding in this Reagan Era. By and large, though, white people experience enough favortism that there is no need to proclaim "white pride"... it's assumed.

In contrast, among people of color, the phenomenon of low self-esteem, or self-hatred, especially when it comes to issue of race and interracial interactions, is common, almost to the point of being universal among the poor people of color.

The statements of "black and proud" or "brown and proud" or "asian pride" is a response to this reality.

When I hear someone talk about "white pride", I automatically assume that they lack pride, or self-esteem, and might have some sense of inferority. After all, this is a country where every single President and Vice-President has been white, where over 90% of the Senate and the vast majority of the House are white, where most of the people sitting on the BODs of corporations are white, where most of the liberal and conservative press are white, where almost all the editors of major magazines are white, where whites practiced segregation for most of the nation's history, where whites have prevented others from voting, owning land, having many jobs, and sitting at the front of the bus. If you think that people of color have so many advantages over whites, you live in a fantasy world born of a profound lack of self-worth.

Now, let's see if the crackAryan can debate that.

Regarding the issue of "hate speech." It's protected, except that if you use it during an assault, it elevates the assualt to a hate crime.

Hate speech falls under the category of "fighting words" or words that incite someone to get into a fight with you. That's why it's not protected speech any more than yelling "fire" in a theater is protected speech.

"Hate speech" against whites is somewhat protected, because whites still run the show, and the terms don't have that much sting. How many caucasians get into a big fight when they're called a "cracker" or "honkey"? Probably none, except for the ones who live as minorities in a majority-minority area. And those will be taunted with "white boy" instead of thos other words.

awww, jeeeez...

....now it'll NEVER stop yappin'!

Nice rhyme, Eminem.

====== fo’ shizzle.

Nobody is stopping a white person from having "white pride". It's just something really rude, because, generally speaking, whites are not as often in situations when their personal pride and self esteem will be shattered by racism.

====== Oh. So it’s “rude” to , say, celebrate (or teach) the genius of the Founding Fathers because a person of color might be offended, even though that person of color also enjoys the protection of the Bill of Rights today? “Shattered by racism?” Nonsense. I see nowhere a law that guarantees a person’s feelings shall not ever be hurt or their self-esteem protected.

Some whites will be -- the poor ones, the hurt ones, the ones who see their opportunities eroding in this Reagan Era. By and large, though, white people experience enough favortism that there is no need to proclaim "white pride"... it's assumed.

====== People usually do what’s in their best interests. There will always be those who reject others for illogical reasons, but most people now understand that ability is more important than “race.” Since the poor also got richer under Reagan, I see no reason to drag his legacy into this.

====== So because a handful of thought-control folks declare there’s “no need” for white pride, that it should not be permitted? That sounds Orwellian to me.

In contrast, among people of color, the phenomenon of low self-esteem, or self-hatred, especially when it comes to issue of race and interracial interactions, is common, almost to the point of being universal among the poor people of color.

====== This may be true, it may not be true; it smacks more of opinion than something empirically provable. For the sake of argument here let’s say it’s true. Is it then the government’s responsibility to then promote these people’s SELF-esteem? To give them jobs for which they may or may not be qualified? Handouts that mean increased dependency on government?

The statements of "black and proud" or "brown and proud" or "asian pride" is a response to this reality.

====== And there’s nothing wrong with that. But if other-than-white pride is somehow so fragile as to crumble when someone points out the contributions of whites---then what is to be done?

When I hear someone talk about "white pride", I automatically assume that they lack pride, or self-esteem, and might have some sense of inferority.

===== Well, there are anti-Semites and holocaust deniers, etc. But there is also a legitimate history of whites in America that is being not only shunned, but deliberately degraded. There’s just no reason for it. History is history and there’s nothing anyone can do about it now.

After all, this is a country where every single President and Vice-President has been white, where over 90% of the Senate and the vast majority of the House are white, where most of the people sitting on the BODs of corporations are white, where most of the liberal and conservative press are white, where almost all the editors of major magazines are white, where whites practiced segregation for most of the nation's history, where whites have prevented others from voting, owning land, having many jobs, and sitting at the front of the bus.

===== This sounds an awful lot like the “blame game” to me. And most of what is being blamed for modern problems has been corrected. Slavery in America is no more, everyone can vote and ride the bus, and anyone of any race, creed or color can publish whatever they want on the internet. Oh, and somehow rap music has become the dominant music in youth culture. Racism? It’s not as bad as it’s made out to be.

If you think that people of color have so many advantages over whites, you live in a fantasy world born of a profound lack of self-worth.

====== Talent and ability vary more from person to person, rather than race to race, but in America people of color are NOT so severely disadvantaged as to require special anything. There are too many American success stories from people of all races that prove opportunity exists.

Now, let's see if the crackAryan can debate that.

====== “Crack Aryan.” Needless contempt.

Regarding the issue of "hate speech." It's protected, except that if you use it during an assault, it elevates the assualt to a hate crime.

====== Which is patently ridiculous. Call it what it is: legalized thoughtcrime.

Hate speech falls under the category of "fighting words" or words that incite someone to get into a fight with you. That's why it's not protected speech any more than yelling "fire" in a theater is protected speech.

====== You know this is bullshit. And it’s wrong. Individuals in a free society choose how they’re going to react. If calling someone a racial slur doesn’t provoke someone to throw a punch but calling them an ‘a—hole’ does, who then gets to decide what is “hate speech?” Let me guess…an enlightened council of liberal mind-readers? Sorry. Not buying it. The whole concept of the hate crime is Un-American drivel.

==== And BTW, yelling “FIRE” in a crowded theater IS protected speech, iIF there’s a fire.

"Hate speech" against whites is somewhat protected, because whites still run the show, and the terms don't have that much sting.

====== We’re out of the realm of law now and moving into anarchy. The reason laws are laws is because they apply equally to ALL. How predictable that those who complain the most about segregation and an unfair world are the very first to discriminate in their favor. That’s just human nature, and why these stupid hate crime laws must go.

How many caucasians get into a big fight when they're called a "cracker" or "honkey"? Probably none, except for the ones who live as minorities in a majority-minority area. And those will be taunted with "white boy" instead of thos other words.

====== Beyond mere words, how about violent crimes?

Blacks were over 7 times more likely than whites to commit homicide in 2000. See for yourself.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm

WILL SOMEONE SHUT THAT FUCKIN' DOG UP!



Give him a milkbone...tell him it's some Mexican's leg....that'll keep him busy for a while......

po' whitey: "And most of what is being blamed for modern problems has been corrected. "

...yes, so now it is only white men like you who suffer from racism....

...there you go, being the victim again..."It's a thoughtcrime...how Orwellian...poor me, I can't yell "nigger" at a crowded KFC...."

...fuckin' loser. You can get out of that trailer park when you stop blaming the brown skinned hordes and pull yourself up by your own bootstraps!