The crimes of the US administration, CNN, Fox TV and ABC won't show you
Go fuck yourself? Wow...what a lady like comment. The best reply to that is: You look like you are charity work...yadda, yadda, yadda.......
Guess what? That IS what war looks like. Has CNN brain washed you to thinking it is just another video game? Or another form of Saturday night entertainment?
Well, guess what....you you had a good look at what King Georgie and Dickie Cheney don't want you to see. It's called the TRUTH.
Get a clue, you dumb Righ-Wing Broadi.
well I guess ur not allowed to oppose war anymore , otherwise you would be called a 'sadam supporter.
Here are reasons why we shouldn't be in Iraq:
Think about the bombs being dropped over Baghdad...wouldn't this incite future terrorism instead of halting it altogether? What we are really doing is setting back peace negotiations in the middle east about 20 years, in my opinion. Additionally, you can't say any future terrorists would've come forward now--we're in Iraq right now, so anyone who's pissed off at us would have a good enough reason to act out against the United States.
I think anti-Americanism would catch fire by this military action in Iraq, as the countries in the Middle East are going to be less likely to comply with United States anti-terrorism strategies.
Contrary to some beliefs, Iraq has not been proven to be linked to the Al Qaeda or any other terrorists. Please remember the majority of the 9/11 terrorists were Saudis, not Iraqis; Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden strongly dislike one another. The United States GAVE Saddam Hussein weapons after we gave the Iranians weapons because they held a bunch of Americans captive--this juxtaposes how the United States also gave the Afghanis weapons to fight the Russians off and then later bombed Afghanistan, didn't rebuild any cities at all, and installed a president who's around like a groundhog on Groundhog Day.
I don't think going in there with a bunch of tanks and bombs is a civil way of going upon it. I'm not with Saddam Hussein or any terrorists; I'm not anti-American. I want peace negotiations and the way I see it bombing
the fuck out of Iraq is going to set PEACE back 20 years or more, bring on more terrorist activity against the U.S., and the overturn of Saddam's regime and the installation of democracy will not last because the Iraqis have been suffering for a decade from the effects of UN sanctions and would be likely to suffer even more in ensuing chaos.
Imperialism is a cause that only brings upon more terrorism we have a "war" against; it is a case of Manifest Destiny. Imperialist actions in the Middle East aren't going to do anything but incite terrorism and anti-American sentiments. What is this, Germany 1933? The United States would not be justified, especially under UN codes, if we went over there and said "Hey, this is American land now, you're either with us or with Osama bin Laden/Saddam Hussein/terrorists," much like Bush's riding line, 'You're either with us, or with the terrorists.' I'm not a terrorist; I'm not with Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, or any other Islamic fundamentalistic group bent on terrorizing other people, and neither is anyone else on this website and many if its partners.
People aren't too different as to want peace for their country and their neighbors and friends. Warlike aggression is not a trait of the people; it is a trait of their leaders.
I'm NOT for putting a bunch of AWOL-war-avoidant oil barons in charge of monkeying around with foreign affairs. Bush, Cheney, Ashcroft, and Rumsfeld ALL avoided serving in the military. What do they know about the effects of war if they haven't been? Even Ronald Reagan didn't go to WWII because he had a great excuse: Hollywood. He wasn't too old--he was in his 30s in the 1940s.
We are NOT: Communists, anti-Americans, godless sodomists, corrupt evil liberals, et cetera. We are Americans, and we want truth and peace for the whole world.
electr o nixxa: so what do you think of the military strategy in iraq/
electr o nixxa: ack, i can't type
dyingdayofsummer: lol
electr o nixxa: cant they just make one key for EVERYTHING gahahh
dyingdayofsummer: hmm
dyingdayofsummer: i think the turks fucked shit up
electr o nixxa: the turks violated the UN
dyingdayofsummer: no shit
electr o nixxa: as did israel
electr o nixxa: and america
dyingdayofsummer: i say the US needs to get out of the UN
electr o nixxa: hmm
dyingdayofsummer: we dont pay our shit neways
dyingdayofsummer: or comply
dyingdayofsummer: so lets get out
electr o nixxa: yeah, well, that's true considering us being in iraq right now is illegal from the UN
dyingdayofsummer: yepp
electr o nixxa: but just consider the military strategy there now
dyingdayofsummer: what do u think of it
electr o nixxa: well, think about the bombs being dropped over baghdad...wouldn't this incite future terrorism instead of halting it altogether?
dyingdayofsummer: yeh
dyingdayofsummer: but
dyingdayofsummer: if terror was gonna happen
dyingdayofsummer: it wouldve happened by now
electr o nixxa: so, what we are really doing is setting back peace negotiations in the middle east about 20 years
electr o nixxa: and you can't say any future terrorists would've come forward now...i mean we're in iraq right now, so anyone who's pissed off
at us would have something against us
dyingdayofsummer: lol
dyingdayofsummer: hold on
electr o nixxa: also i think anti-americanism would catch fire by this military action in iraq
electr o nixxa: the countries in the middle east are going to be less likely to comply with u.s. anti terrorism strategies
dyingdayofsummer: brb
electr o nixxa: also iraq has not been proven to be linked to the al qaeda or any other terrorists...the majority of the 9/11 terrorists were saudis, not iraqis
electr o nixxa: sadddam hussein and osama bin laden hate each other's asses
dyingdayofsummer: yeh
dyingdayofsummer: but
dyingdayofsummer: the US and Russia hated each others asses
dyingdayofsummer: but when it came to germany....
electr o nixxa: of course the US and Russia hated one another
electr o nixxa: cos we gave the Afghanis weapons
electr o nixxa: not to mention all the cold war shit that went down
electr o nixxa: also, we GAVE saddam hussein weapons after we gave the iranians weapons because the iranians held a bunch of americans captive
dyingdayofsummer: no
dyingdayofsummer: look
dyingdayofsummer: 1942
dyingdayofsummer: russia hates US and Germany
dyingdayofsummer: US hates russia and german
electr o nixxa: no, YOU look, i'm talking about the middle east, not russia
dyingdayofsummer: US and Russia Ally
dyingdayofsummer: im simply giving an example as to two bodies that dont agree but agree on a common enemy
electr o nixxa: okay
dyingdayofsummer: such as hussein and bin laden
electr o nixxa: true, as i've implied
dyingdayofsummer: hah
dyingdayofsummer: i honestly just think we need to get saddam out
dyingdayofsummer: u see once we do this
dyingdayofsummer: other countires will follow
dyingdayofsummer: then the US will one day follow
dyingdayofsummer: and shed this fake democracy bullshit
electr o nixxa: hey, i agree, but i don't think going in there with a bunch of tanks and bombs is a civil way of going upon it. i'm not with
saddam hussein or any terrorists, i'm not anti-american or anything like that. i want peace negotiations and the way i see it is bombing
the fuck out of iraq is going to set PEACE back 20 years or more, bring on more terrorist activity against the united states and the overturn of
saddam's regime and the installation of democracy will not last because the iraqis have been suffering for a decade from the effects of UN sanctions
and would be likely to suffer even more in ensuing chaos
dyingdayofsummer: i dunno
dyingdayofsummer: im tired of this UN bullshit
dyingdayofsummer: we just need to drop it like a bad habbit
dyingdayofsummer: like when we dropped france in the league of nations
electr o nixxa: going about peace relations as a single country who has incited so much terrorism in the middle east is
completely impossible because we've gone over there, bombed the fuck out of them, didn't clean up and rebuild, etc and then installed
some president who's like a groundhog on groundhog day, only there for show
dyingdayofsummer: so i say
dyingdayofsummer: we bomb em and become imperialists
dyingdayofsummer: lol
dyingdayofsummer: so that way we have a cause
dyingdayofsummer: and claim the land as ours
electr o nixxa: a cause that only brings upon more terrorism we have a "war" against?
electr o nixxa: it sounds like a case of manifest destiny you're speaking of here.
dyingdayofsummer: yeh
dyingdayofsummer: i say we just start claiming land
dyingdayofsummer: kinda like the romans
dyingdayofsummer: either willingly surrender
dyingdayofsummer: or we take u down
electr o nixxa: alright, like the israelis are doing with the palestinian conflicts?
dyingdayofsummer: if u surrender you shall recieve all equal rights of romans
dyingdayofsummer: yepp
electr o nixxa: the roman policies are dated, however
electr o nixxa: and then the world wasn't completely colonized.
electr o nixxa: i don't think imperialist actions in the middle east is going to do anything but incite terrorism and anti-american sentiments. what is this, germany 1933?
dyingdayofsummer: yeh
dyingdayofsummer: well the world isnt exactlr ight now
dyingdayofsummer: yeh
dyingdayofsummer: it seems like it
electr o nixxa: so, you're saying you're all for going over to the middle east and taking over those countries as american land?
dyingdayofsummer: yeh
dyingdayofsummer: lol
electr o nixxa: why?
dyingdayofsummer: cause who gives a shit i mean this is all politics neways
electr o nixxa: apparently it's politics, but i'd like to know why you think the united states would be justified if we went over there and said
"hey, this is american land now, you're either with us or with osama bin laden/saddam hussein/terrorists".
dyingdayofsummer: we arent justified
dyingdayofsummer: thats the point
dyingdayofsummer: lol
electr o nixxa: and you must give a shit if you're talking to me about it.
dyingdayofsummer: i just like shooting the shit in politics
electr o nixxa: and how is that going to get anyone anywhere?
dyingdayofsummer: thats the pint
dyingdayofsummer: point
dyingdayofsummer: the world has gone to shit
dyingdayofsummer: we are at a point where as a whole
dyingdayofsummer: we cant progress nemore
dyingdayofsummer: we must digress
dyingdayofsummer: hey im all for it
dyingdayofsummer: lol
electr o nixxa: so you'd prefer to sit back and watch everything fall apart rather than to build it up into a world of peace?
electr o nixxa: without terrorism?
dyingdayofsummer: ok world peace
dyingdayofsummer: its never gonna happen
dyingdayofsummer: its like the idea of the glory of rome
dyingdayofsummer: it wont ever exist
dyingdayofsummer: people are different cultures are too different
electr o nixxa: right, especially if we keep bombing the fuck out of the middle east
dyingdayofsummer: humans are ignorant
dyingdayofsummer: its just a fact
electr o nixxa: people aren't too different as to want peace for their country and their neighbors and friends
dyingdayofsummer: after reading up on philosophers for debate
dyingdayofsummer: i have decided we wont ever have peace
electr o nixxa: and doesn't that scare you?
dyingdayofsummer: no
dyingdayofsummer: its just life
dyingdayofsummer: we are hear for specs of time
dyingdayofsummer: here
electr o nixxa: warlike aggression is not a trait of the people, it is a trait of their leaders.
dyingdayofsummer: naw all humans are truely evil
dyingdayofsummer: lol
dyingdayofsummer: we are only concerned about ourselves
electr o nixxa: i don't think such a statement has adequate information to back it up
dyingdayofsummer: ok the only truely nonselfish person was jesus
dyingdayofsummer: who we cant even proove existed
electr o nixxa: that's not true
electr o nixxa: what about mother teresa?
electr o nixxa: gandhi?
electr o nixxa: so many others who devote their lives to helping other people?
dyingdayofsummer: haha ghandi was a playa back in his day
electr o nixxa: that doesn't matter because it's irrelevant
dyingdayofsummer: lol i know
dyingdayofsummer: but ghandi was murdered
electr o nixxa: how is that a "but" statement?
dyingdayofsummer: the world cant have peace
dyingdayofsummer: the world doesnt want peace
dyingdayofsummer: it says it does
dyingdayofsummer: but it doesnt
dyingdayofsummer: well a band of hippies in San Fran do
dyingdayofsummer: but....
electr o nixxa: so, the world can't have peace because according to you, gandhi was murdered (true), everyone is evil and america has to own the whole world?
dyingdayofsummer: ok
dyingdayofsummer: one the world is too materialistic
dyingdayofsummer: its too selfish
electr o nixxa: no, the world is not
dyingdayofsummer: its sooo much easier to bitch then to work toward something
electr o nixxa: america is--look at it: corporations are EVERYWHERE
dyingdayofsummer: yepp
electr o nixxa: corporations dabble in politics, and even BUSINESSWEEK said big corporations should get out of politics
dyingdayofsummer: yeh
dyingdayofsummer: i agree whole heartedly
electr o nixxa: as do i. such a thing would lessen american materialism, in my opinion
electr o nixxa: it'd still be there of course but not as full-blown.
dyingdayofsummer: yepp
electr o nixxa: well, i for one am not going to sit back and watch the world become osama bin laden and saddam hussein's disneyland
dyingdayofsummer: lol
dyingdayofsummer: me either
dyingdayofsummer: karina u have some real good ideas
dyingdayofsummer: we should start a talk show on politics
electr o nixxa: what good is bitching about it doing? bitching about the current state does nothing whatsoever, in turn it only makes someone more miserable.
dyingdayofsummer: u are more left i am more right
dyingdayofsummer: it would be good times
electr o nixxa: what, like hannity and colmes?
dyingdayofsummer: yepp
dyingdayofsummer: manlove and leake
dyingdayofsummer: i bet we would piss alot of people off
electr o nixxa: the first guests could be bill o'reilly, rush limbaugh, mike savage, phyllis schlafly, tipper gore, al gore, bill clinton, bush sr and bush jr, jello biafra,
noam chomsky, michael moore, hillary clinton, tony blair, and so on and so forth
electr o nixxa: don't forget trent lott and strom thurmond.
electr o nixxa: maybe some jerry falwell, pat robertson, rev fred phelps..
electr o nixxa: ann coulter! forgot about her
dyingdayofsummer: lol
dyingdayofsummer: and pat boone and ossy osbourne
dyingdayofsummer: lol
electr o nixxa: ozzy? we'd need sharon as translator
dyingdayofsummer: lol
dyingdayofsummer: no ossy
dyingdayofsummer: ozzy could speak
electr o nixxa: hm
dyingdayofsummer: ossy is on mtv and drugged up
dyingdayofsummer: lol
electr o nixxa: haha
electr o nixxa: shit, i forgot about nader.
dyingdayofsummer: haha nader
dyingdayofsummer: hell yeh
dyingdayofsummer: i would love to have bill clinton on
electr o nixxa: ronald reagan! we'd ask a question about war and he'd talk about war movies.
dyingdayofsummer: <---- listening to frank sinatra right now
dyingdayofsummer: hahaha he sooo would
electr o nixxa: yeah cos he never went to war
dyingdayofsummer: reagan?
electr o nixxa: along with bush jr, ashcroft, cheney, limbaugh, the list goes on and on
dyingdayofsummer: haha yeh he was tooo old
electr o nixxa: yeah, he passed up WWII for hollywood.
dyingdayofsummer: haha hey hey now
dyingdayofsummer: bush jr went
electr o nixxa: no he was AWOL
dyingdayofsummer: yeh i know
dyingdayofsummer: lol
dyingdayofsummer: but he went
dyingdayofsummer: lol
electr o nixxa: yeah, that's not going
electr o nixxa: he didn't show up
Nazi Scum? Man, I would not put him THAT high on the food chain.
How the fuck do you know the US did this? from the looks of it, the second picture down on the left is from the video of the 4 US POWs that were killed today. That was Saddam's troops, not the US. So take your post and shove it.
Bush is just calling out those people who he thinks are on the wrong side.
If it happens that it is the whole of the arab world (which very few people seriously believe) and it gets very bad and the arab street ignites - Most likely their governments will tolerated them for a while and then masacare them.
The arab leaders (unlike their people) are fully aware that if they start a open holy war agaisnt all infidels that they will be humiliated on almost every battle field.
When they fight their own people, however, they have a long history of glorious victories.
I did not make the comment "Saddam is Right." That is not my position. I am not on Saddam's side or Bush's side I am opposed to this war just as I am opposed to all wars of aggression. I believe that peace is possible. Sorry for the confusion.
Amanda
Go fuck yourself you fascist, warmongering pig. Go torture animals if you want a thrill. You are worst than Saddam, you don't even get it that this war is killing Americans too. Fuck off and die. Bush owns stock in Harken Energy, an fucking oil company. He is using American soldiers like pawns to get the oil. You are as bad as he is if you support the war. Look at the pictures. I hope you dream of them tonight pig.
The trolls are so obvious such explanations are generally unnecessary.
I see bush raper established some slander on the basis of your troll admirer's statements.
Fear not, he would have made similarly senseless slanderous remarks regardless of whatever you had or hadnot said. Don't even bother responding, its generally so mindless as to not even warrant the trouble.
Americans break all the rules. They go to war. Their soldiers get killed, they get seized by their enemies. Now, the americans mumble, they cry, they shout, they blame, violation of some conventions and shits like that.
Shame on you. War is war, there's no rule. Iraqi's got the full right to defend themselves. They wear military uniform or casual, they mingle among civillians or fight separate, they fight guerilla or regular, they use guns or they use slings, all they are supposed to do is shoot their enemy soldier's head, defend their country.
American make blunders, strikes civillians. They don't realize their mistake, they are ashamed, they cry, they shout, they blame iraqi's instead.
Soon, the american soldiers will brutalize innocent iraqis, they'll rape their wives and daughters, they'll crush their children, kill their husbands, they'll destroy the thousands year old city, they'll steal their oil. But The iraqi's won't cry, they won't shout, they won't mumble, they won't blame violations of this and that. Because iraqis will be mentally lamed by so called superior americans and their nuke bombs.
Shame on you Americans, shame on you!!!
