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Quick Change Possible Says Spoken Word Artist John Trudell

by ji sjimx Friday, Feb. 08, 2002 at 10:03 PM

Theoretically if everyone that disagrees with the lie that has been imposed upon us--tomorrow, theoretically if everyone got up and said, all right I changed my mind. I'm not going to believe the lie any more--you would have nonviolent change--and you would have quick change--because the system goes upon our self-rationalizations and self-justifications and insecurity: lack of respect for self. (pssst---pass it around!)

excerpts from _Stickman_: interviews and words of John Trudell, edited by Paola Igliori; Inanout Press (year 1993?)

Thought a lot of people might find this valuable, so I'm posting it in various places, with hopes that those moved by this will pass it around. This is just the first excerpt of a large excerpt I hope to make available on the Net. (the part about "quick change" is near the end) Enjoy!

John in discussion with Paola Igliori:



...The internal predator...I don't place emphasis on the internal predator because I don't


think there is an internal predator, I think that the predator is truly external. It's in


the structures and creations of man....see, we just are. We are human beings. ...We


got what would be defined as strengths and weaknesses. I think that our technologic


civilization is driving itself insane by going so far into the minute that it misses the


simplicity of one doing the best that they can with the best that they have. For the tribes,


for us here on this land, before the Europeans came here, we didn't have any problem with


love and fear and loss...that wasn't some internal predator running around in our mind or


our psyches or our souls or our spirits. That was something that the Europeans


brought...that's an equation, a perception that's unique to them.


...


It's like this whole concept of guilt, sin and blame...it's all bullshit. It's an external


programming being put inside of us. What we are is just natural human beings, natural human


beings when we're honest with ourselves, when we tell ourselves the truth and then we act


according to that honesty. See, I think that's what it takes, that's what it starts to take


to make things more clear for us, to make us healthier is to tell ourselves the truth.


[These] abstractions, to me, like love and pain and they become equated...that's too much


like that psychoanalysis that comes of of European psychiatric mind fucking, doing the


best that we can with the best that we have
and understand the power that is in that.


...Let's say it like that: value is in the material world; power, real power is in the world


of spirit.


(...)


Paola: The oppressor feels threatened by the power of awareness and it's a war that's


very real and not new. Hitler knew and conquered all the power spots in Europe as the first


thing; the Catholic church put its cross on top of Incas and Mayan pyramids and power spots


in general.




It has put its cross on many, many of the European tribes, too. Europe's citizens were


tribes before they were citizens.


Paola: Yeah, I'm pretty aware of that, being Italian; we still are in some ways. Our


culture, somewhat like yours, I think, is more connected to celebration, to the earth, to


life. Even if the predator has crept in since longer time, our roots are strong.


Anyway...yes, Hitler...even very recently it was done in Europe...and yes, it's been done


throught the ages...So, there could possibly be an actual physical danger around people that


spread awareness even now, don't you think?




Well, I think that what one would define as physical danger, I think the potential for that


is always there, but in context of people being hunted because of their thought and their


perception, that goes hand in hand with "civilization"...it has always been a part of


civilization and I don't expect it to go away now. It has been one of the main tools of


civilization, to attack the spirit of the people...to persecute and hunt, and have


their search and destroy missions against thought...


(...)




Paola: ...I really hear what you say about deactivating the external predator, that preys


on our spirit, deactivate it through our perception of it, as it lives in the


mind-set...


(next page)


So we all have associations in our subconscious that keep us stuck in repetitions until we


get really aware of them. Of where the links are. Usually pain is the communication to


pay attention, and if there isn't attention the price is more pain.






excerpts from "American Indian Community House, New York; June 17, 1992":


...we're part of the natural world, we're not necessarily superior to it but we're a


part of it, and when we consider our role in that proper context--this predator energy feeds


upon living things--it has found a way to take fossils and mine them into a form of energy


to run its machine system--this predator energy has also found a way to mine the


spirit,
has found a way to mine our minds.



It feeds off all of us. And just as that fossil fuel system contaminates and pollutes the


environment around us--the air the water the whole life cycles--and it leaves it back with


its poisons and contamination [so we find the same in the way they mine our spirits]. As


they mine our spirit through our minds the contaminations and pollutants are the distortions


that are left and leave our minds foggy so that we can't see clear--that's the


insecurities--
that's the hatreds and the extremes of self trust and self respect and


many forms of masks and disguises that it wears within our minds--this is all very


deliberately done.



So in order for this system, this predatory energy system to work, we have to believe in it,


we have to believe it, and if we are to look clearly at what's really going on as this


process works, if we are going to believe in it then we can not believe in ourselves,


we can not trust ourselves that's just the way this system works. We all have a commonality


and it's within our genetic memory--I am from the people that are indigenous to this


hemisphere but we are all indigenous to this planet. The DNA of the earth is in all of


us--it is in all of us and it's just part of what's being mined along with the rest of the


fossils--it's some elaborate system that I can't quite truly understand but it feeds upon


us.


[(editor's note to John and others: in my view the external predator is fear which has


become a kind of rigid institution where all policies and imaginations emanate directly from


being stuck in fear; Russell Means called it *fear of the unknown*; i see this fear as


institutionalized in modern "civilization", and a way to overcome this situation may be to


institutionalize the opposite: i.e. bridging with fearers in ways that beautifully "blow


them away"! We're not going to solve the problem by increasing fear quotients!)]




So this predator energy that feeds upon us--its got to do with clarity and how we use our


minds. Predator energy...like in this time, this historical time--let's use advertising--we


all accept advertising--it's an acceptable respectable part of this society--but the reality


of advertising is it's an attack against self-worth--it's a constant barrage it's a


relentless attack against the worth of the self because every time it is telling us that


others will like us better--others will like us better--if we consume this or that


and you become programmed with that crap all of your life all of your life. The


subtleness and the blatantness simultaneously of that type of an attack.



We enter into this reality. Technologic reality tells us that we were born to die. Tribal


reality is we enter into this reality, we believe this reality and we will continue as part


of the larger life cycle. Technologic reality is you were born to die and at the end of it,


it's all based upon the material aspects of reality...So if you behave like good little boys


and girls, then you will go to male dominated god heaven. If you misbehave little boys and


girls, then you will go to a male dominated hell. (...)



...In this room, every time any one of us accepts, rationalizes the great lie, because it


meets a need for us to know more, or even help us to hide from it, then they are getting us


to accept the illusion as reality. Every time we listen to a political pimp** come out here


and tell us his selling line, and we know he's telling a lie but we rationalize why we're


gonna vote for him or why we're gonna do this for him or why we're gonna accept that


lie--that is converting this illusion into reality and we aid and abet it--because we have


been programmed to do so.


[(ed's note: i question the use of the label "pimp" because it looks like John is making use


of a sex-negative power word, demonizing a whole group of people as the image we're


programmed with about what pimps do and who they are)]



And I find it very interesting to live in a "democracy"--all right a democracy--to me a


democracy is just puritans with neon glasses, right, and that's all that it is.



The democracy, whether the democracy is called communism or fascism or capitalism--no matter


what it's called--it's all what I call dark age ruling control forms--It's the dark ages


with neon.



angry ones rise


feeding the beast


all aggression is justified


and the beast grows




Nothing has changed--you're still the peasants--you're the peasants and you're the serfs and


you gotta do the bidding of the landlords and the royalty--that is reality--it has not


changed, you know--you can turn on all the electric lights you want--reality has not


changed.



You can call yourself workers you can call yourself citizens you can call [yourself]


anything you want. Freedom?? Why does freedom end in "dom". Think about it--why does freedom


end in "dom"? Citizens don't feel oppressed because they live a hypocrisy, so they don't


feel oppressed, they feel powerless. The illusion converted into the reality--and it all


works on how we believe.




...Now, if they they have all the power, then why do they have to have someone come here and


run back and tell them what we're talking about? Because they're afraid we might think. They


don't want us to think and they don't want us to clear the pollution out of our own minds


because we can do it by activating our thinking process--but if they have all the power,


then why are they so concerned about what we think? Because, it's of the mind.



Theoretically if everyone that disagrees with the lie that has been imposed upon


us--tomorrow, theoretically if everyone got up and said, all right I changed my mind. I'm


not going to believe the lie any more--you would have nonviolent change--and you would have


quick change--because the system goes upon our self-rationalizations and self-justifications


and insecurity: lack of respect for self.


[(ed's note: and what if this lack of respect for self is simply **The Reflection of the


'ruling class'**??!! And a language which we can catch onto, opt out, and begin seeking to


deal with via bridging beautifully with all these people so heavily stuck in this so-called


'ruling class')]

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