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by The Informant
Thursday, Nov. 13, 2003 at 7:23 PM
In light of the controversy surrounding the Electronic Voting Machines (http://www.blackboxvoting.com/ ) I am proposing that everyone submit their vote in the form of an absentee ballot. One of the problems with the electronic voting machines is that many of them (if any? and who knows which ones do or don't) do not create a physical log of the voting records. Also there have been reports of abnormalities in vote tallying. Without this physical log it makes it extremely difficult, if not impossible to verify the voting records. If they are not going to allow a trail to be created, I suggest that we create on for them.
I have created a list, by state, of web links of how to vote with an absentee ballot. Don't be fooled, you don't actually have to be absent to vote with an absentee ballot.
This list can also be found at http://www.geocities.com/holesnthesky/absenteevoting.html
Alabama http://www.sos.state.al.us/election/vr/vr-b.htm
Alaska http://www.gov.state.ak.us/ltgov/elections/abinfo.htm
Arizona I was unable to find a link
Arkansas http://www.sosweb.state.ar.us/elections_voter_arkansas_absentee.html
California http://www.ss.ca.gov/elections/elections_m.htm
Colorado http://www.sos.state.co.us/pubs/info_center/main.htm
Connecticut (it's not online, but it tells you where to go to register) http://www.sots.state.ct.us/ElectionsDivision/Elecform.html
Delaware http://www.state.de.us/election/absentee.html
Florida(contact your local supervisor of elections) http://election.dos.state.fl.us/county/index.shtml
Georgia http://www.sos.state.ga.us/elections/info/voter_info_2003.htm#Absentee%20Voting
Hawaii http://www.state.hi.us/elections/voteab.html
Idaho http://www.idsos.state.id.us/elect/voterreg/absentee.htm
Illinois (this is all I could find) http://www.elections.state.il.us/elecinfo/pages/downloads/pdf/absevote.pdf
Indiana http://www.in.gov/sos/elections/forms/index.html
Iowa http://www.sos.state.ia.us/elections/voterreg/voterguidefiles/absentee.html
Kansas http://www.kssos.org/elections/elections_registration_voting.html
Kentucky (best I could find) http://www.sos.state.ky.us/Elecfil/Genelectionfiles/voterguide.asp#Absentee
Louisiana http://204.196.221.226/elect_absentee.html
Maine http://www.maine.gov/sos/cec/elec/absent.htm
Maryland http://www.elections.state.md.us/voters/absentee_ballot.html
Massachusetts http://www.state.ma.us/sec/ele/eleifv/howabs.htm
Michigan http://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,1607,7-127-1633_11976_11987-28039--,00.html
Minnesota http://www.sos.state.mn.us/election/forms.html
Mississippi (contact your local voting registrar) http://www.sos.state.ms.us/elections/VoterRegistrars.asp
Missouri http://www.sos.mo.gov/section4.asp
Montana http://sos.state.mt.us/css/ELB/Absentee_Ballot.asp
Nebraska http://www.sos.state.ne.us/Elections/Absenteepage.htm
Nevada (contact you local county clerk) http://sos.state.nv.us/nvelection/county/co_clerks.htm
New Hampshire http://www.state.nh.us/sos/vote.htm#Absentee
New Jersey http://www.state.nj.us/lps/elections/absentee_doe.html
New Mexico http://web.state.nm.us/Election/03Special/ABinfo.htm
New York http://www.elections.state.ny.us/voting/absentee.htm
North Carolina http://www.app.sboe.state.nc.us/
North Dakota http://www.state.nd.us/sec/votingabsentee.htm
Ohio (click on "voter services") http://www.sos.state.oh.us/sos/elections/index.html
Oklahoma http://www.oklaosf.state.ok.us/~elections/absentee.html
Oregon http://www.sos.state.or.us/elections/other.info/vr.htm
Pennsylvania (contact your county board of elections) http://www.dos.state.pa.us/bcel/cwp/view.asp?a=1099&q=431721
Rhode Island http://www.elections.state.ri.us/mailvote.htm
South Carolina http://www.state.sc.us/scsec/absent.htm
South Dakota http://www.sdsos.gov/absentee.htm
Tennessee (contact you local county administrator) http://www.state.tn.us/sos/election/county.htm
Texas http://www.sos.state.tx.us/elections/voter/reqabbm.shtml
Utah http://elections.utah.gov/absenteevoting.html
Vermont http://vermont-elections.org/elections1/absenteevotinginfo.html
Virginia http://www.sbe.state.va.us/election/absente1.htm
Washington http://www.secstate.wa.gov/elections/register_absentee.aspx
West Virginia http://www.wvsos.com/elections/voters/absentee.htm
Wisconson http://elections.state.wi.us/sebpage33.html
Wyoming http://soswy.state.wy.us/election/vote.htm
www.geocities.com/holesnthesky/absenteevoting.html
by Obnoxio T. Clown
Thursday, Nov. 13, 2003 at 7:47 PM
Yeah, vote by absentee ballot cause we all know the Government can't get their grubby little paws on those and put the fix in.
If you're so paranoid about the electronic machines, why would you bother voting at all?
by Sheepdog
Thursday, Nov. 13, 2003 at 7:59 PM
This is a route I have advocated all along unless there is the filled in space type of tally. No paper trail = no accountability. Ever wonder why the exit polls were so totally divergent from the announced results?
by nonanarchist1709
Thursday, Nov. 13, 2003 at 10:21 PM
Thousands of absentee ballots were thrown out.
Oddly enough, most were from military members.
Now, let's see...someone refresh my memory about which party militiary members generally vote for.
Like O. T. Clown pointed out, paper ballots are just as subject to abuse.
ANY form of voting is subject to abuse.
I tell you what: if you feel that your vote will be changed or deleted, DON'T VOTE.
That'll show 'em!
[Insert evil laugh here.]
by infobeing
Friday, Nov. 14, 2003 at 5:14 PM
That's a great way to pressure your district not to use Diebold. Also, make sure you note why you're requesting the absentee ballot whenever possible. Let's get this message out.
by KPC
Friday, Nov. 14, 2003 at 11:15 PM
Fido, you are a liar. And you're stupid. It is not about whether the system can be abused, but whether it can be AUDITED for abuse...
Got any other lies for us today?
by nonanarchist2124
Saturday, Nov. 15, 2003 at 2:43 AM
Reality is not defined by your ill-informed opinions.
The sooner you accept that, the sooner you'll have a chance at happiness.
Besides, moron, if a system can be abused, it can also be abused such that an audit cannot discover it.
Just ask any accountant.
by KPC
Saturday, Nov. 15, 2003 at 1:47 PM
I'm sorry for what I said. I was beyond stupid, but then agian, that's my forte.
Obviously if a system can be abused it can also be covered up so that the abuse is never discovered. It's happened throughtout history. I have problems accepting reality, especially if it doesn't fit my already preconceived notions of how things should be. I'm an idiot.
by KPC
Saturday, Nov. 15, 2003 at 7:08 PM
Fido: "Besides, moron, if a system can be abused, it can also be abused such that an audit cannot discover it. "
Look, Fido, I already know that you know how to roll over and play dead...hell, I taught you that trick!
But your statement is stupid. Why have any laws or any means of investigation if they can be circumvented? Obviously, the truth is that a paper trail makes fraud more difficult.
Oh, that's right...you are Republican...just reading this will make you break out in hives! Better admin the Benadryl quick!
Oh, and I spared the obscenities so as not to offend your delicate sensibilities...(in case nobody's noticed, he's a little light in the loafers...not that there's anything wrong with it...)
by KPC
Saturday, Nov. 15, 2003 at 7:13 PM
Sometimes I ask myself, "Self, why have any laws or any means of investigation if they can be circumvented?" It never occured to me that some people aren't smart enough to know how to cover their tracks. Liberals are a fine example of that. hell, we can't even dress ourselves without a manual. Forgive me for being stupid once again. I'm sure it won't be the last time.
by KPC
Saturday, Nov. 15, 2003 at 7:45 PM
Unlike idiots who bleat what they are told when in reality they haven't the slightest idea what they are talking about (Fido and Mimic, take a bow), I am a certified auditor and I can tell you that tain't as easy as an idiot might believe...so where lying Republican (pardon the redundancy) may think it is smart enough to lie and get away with it, I have built a career on nailing such scum! It's always makes me smile...the more deceptively smart they think they are, the easier it is to catch 'em.
Now, Fido being a loyal doggie...he don't know shit...he always does what he is told...even if he don't get no liver snaps!
..and Mimic the self-loather wishing he were someone else (& who can blame him?)...well...he's so stupid he thinks he's smart!
by da gov't
Saturday, Nov. 15, 2003 at 7:52 PM
You couldn't audit your way out of a wet paper bag. You're too damn stupid to hold on to the back of a garbage truck.
BTW, your welfare check is in the mail. Try not to spend it all on Night Train and poppers this time.
by KPC
Saturday, Nov. 15, 2003 at 7:55 PM
Gee, then why do they pay me so much money and send me all over the world?
It must really bug you that someone actually works for a living instead of depending on mommy and daddy?
by da gov't
Saturday, Nov. 15, 2003 at 7:59 PM
Because your lyin'. That's what liberals do, they lie. No self respecting accounting firm would knowingly hire a liberal. No self respecting business would hire a liberal for any position.
Welfare checks in the mail.
by da gov't
Saturday, Nov. 15, 2003 at 8:00 PM
If you made over $10K/yr that would be a miracle. You're not even qualified to be a scab bag boy at Von's.
Welfare checks in the mail.
by KPC
Saturday, Nov. 15, 2003 at 8:09 PM
Can you believe I said "he's so stupid he thinks he's smart!" That pretty much sums up the bane of my existance.
by KPC
Saturday, Nov. 15, 2003 at 8:37 PM
Well, I guess there are an awful LOT of business that lack self respect...and miracles even happen to atheists!
by gov't
Saturday, Nov. 15, 2003 at 8:45 PM
How would you know? You never get out of your government subsidized house except to look and see if the welfare check has showed up, and then down to the 7-11 to buy booze and to corner to buy poppers.
A liberal believing he knows anything about business. Make me laugh. Yeah, that's why so many of you bright fuckers are CEO's of major corps, cause you know so much.
Douchbag.
by KPC
Sunday, Nov. 16, 2003 at 12:46 AM
Yeah....it must kill you to know that I am highly respected by capitalists in my field AND that I make more money than your mommy gives you AND I get to see more of the world than you ever see of your own back yard...
...fuckin' social dingleberry....get a job!
by gov't
Sunday, Nov. 16, 2003 at 3:16 AM
So there's repect among welfare recipients. Who'd have guessed.
I make more money a month that you make in ten years. A wealthy auditor. No such idiot.
....perpetual fuckup......
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