Just as the authorities dismiss the claims of Jewish students of hostile campus climate...

From ABC News, Channel 10 in San Diego


A map distributed in a language class at San Diego State University labeled Israel as Palestine, leading to an outcry from the local Jewish community.
Sources told Team 10 the map was handed out by a professor on the second day of class in an Arabic language course. Sources said students were upset and unsure how to protest the erroneous map because they feared speaking out publicly could have a negative impact on their grades.
One student talked with Team 10, on the condition of anonymity."I don't really believe it was the right place for dialogue," the student said. "It is a language class, it's not a class about conflict."
Students gave the map to the non-profit, pro-Israel San Diego group, "Stand With Us."The group sent a newsletter to its members and urged the community to contact the department's chairman and Arabic program director. The group also posted the map to its Facebook page. The electronic newsletter states the map "not only fails to label 'Israel' as a legitimate country," but that "it falsely portrays the entire territory of Israel as 'Palestine....'"
The department chair said the professor used Palestine in place of Israel on the labels to "reflect the view of Arab-speakers in the region." Team 10 contacted SDSU late Tuesday morning with questions about the handout, and on Tuesday afternoon the school issued this statement:
"While SDSU encourages scholarly debate and discussion of varying opinions, presenting inaccurate information to students in not acceptable. SDSU's Provost has conferred with the department chair, who spoke with the faculty member. This inaccurate portrayal will not reoccur."
As of today, the map has been altered and redistributed, with Israel scrawled by hand

From Channel 10


Sources said the new map students received Wednesday was only a slight improvement. They said it marginally showcased Israel's true and legitimate existence in the region.
Sources also added that their ideal solution would have been to distribute a real and accurate map of the Middle East rather than adding the obviously handwritten word "Israel" to an incorrect map of the region.

As of late Wednesday evening, the professor had not issued an apology to the Jewish community.

Has the world has been turned upside down? A consortium of students is demanding the right to have Ghassan Zakaria's political and historical inaccuracies taught at the college level, in the name of academic freedom.

Zakaria recently distributed a map of the modern Middle East to his Arabic class, sans Israel. Only after student complaints and negative publicity for the University, did he redistribute the maps, with "Israel" scrawled in by hand.

Ghassan Zakaria , a lecturer at San Diego State University apparently disagrees with Daniel Patrick Moynihan, who famously declared "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Equally appalling is the response from some students, claiming that academic standards of truth and accuracy are tantamount to censorship.


From the Daily Aztec, the student newspaper of San Diego State University

Multiple student organizations including Students for Justice in Palestine, Afrikan Student Union, Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano/a de Aztlan, Students of the World and the Arab Student Association among others signed a letter to SDSU Provost Nancy Marlin asking to not censor freedom of speech in the classroom in support of Zakaria.
But Aztecs for Israel member and Stand With Us intern Nirit Revzin said students, who wished to remain anonymous for confidentiality reasons, enrolled in the class disclosed the information and their concerns to Stand With Us which in turn distributed the information through a newsletter email.
“The Pro-Israel community spoke up against this issue because we strongly value education, and want to ensure students recognize reality from falsehoods,” AFI said in a statement.
The university also said in a statement that “while SDSU encourages scholarly debate and discussion of varying opinions, presenting inaccurate information to students is not acceptable.”
The letter is reproduced below

Dear Provost Marlin,

We are writing out of concern for academic freedom on the San Diego State University campus. As students, we expect that our professors will not be subject to censorship or have their freedom of expression violated. It has come to our attention that one SDSU lecturer, Ghassan Zakaria, was forced to change the label on a map he presented to his class in order to satisfy the concernsof a single SDSU student and an off-campus political organization, StandWithUs, which has no role on our campus and has no business representing us as students.

Professor Zakaria is a wonderful professor who is careful not to let his personal opinions spill over into what he teaches in his classes. According to a large number of his students, his manner of teaching is inclusive of all backgrounds, and politics is left out in this linguistics course. That being said, it is perfectly reasonable that while teaching a class on Arabic language and culture, Lecturer Ghassan Zakaria would include a view of the Middle East and North Africa aligned with the perspective of most Arabic speakers. It happens that many in the Arabic speaking world do not recognize the state of Israel, but instead understand the region to be historic Palestine. If one of the aims of such classes is to understand how Arabic speakers themselves view the region, this map will aid students in that understanding. In fact, Mr. Zakari would be remiss if he did not include this perspective. Mr. Zakaria’s personal and political opinions, whatever they may be, are irrelevant and should not have any bearing on how he is treated as an employee of the university, and as an academic. His right to free speech should not be infringed upon or censored in any way.

We hope you will agree that it would be shameful to think that Stand With Us, and a small number of students could jeopardize a professor’s entire career simply because he exercised his right to portray the valid political opinion of millions of people to his class.

There are countless maps in the university’s books and classrooms that label the region solely as “Israel,” which is not only completely inaccurate, but also very offensive. These maps label the entire area as “Israel” without even the slightest mention of East Jerusalem, the West Bank, or the Gaza strip- which even the state of Israel recognizes as Palestinian territories. Palestine/Israel is not the only region in which land and naming are controversial. The situations of Tibetans, Kurds and Western Saharans are a few instances that should be familiar to students. We hope all in the SDSU community will take this opportunity to learn more about the issue.

Additionally, we absolutely reject all attempts to conflate Zionism (a racist political ideology) with Judaism or the Jewish people. There are many Jews around the world who oppose Zionism, including here at SDSU, and who do not feel that their political opinions are included in the Zionist depiction of Jews as unquestioningly aligned with the state of Israel. Such a cynical politically-motivated stereotype excludes and silences pro-Palestinian Jews and is in itself offensive.

Finally, any attempt to tarnish professor Zakaria’s reputation as a professor with fantastic academic credentials is a purely political and uninformed act of slander that should not be acceptable on our campus. We as students are not represented by this narrow-minded opinion and ask that the university take note of the wide support that professor Zakaria has received from his students and from the San Diego State community in general.


Sincerely,


Students for Justice in Palestine, SDSU
Amnesty International, SDSU
Arab Student Association, SDSU
Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano/a de Aztlán, SDSU
Afrikan Student Union, SDSU
Association of Chicana Activists, SDSU
Muslim Student Association, SDSU
Students of the World, SDSU
International Socialist Organization, SDSU
Students for Justice in Palestine, UCSD
Al-Awda Foundation, San Diego
Students for Justice in Palestine, CSULB
Students for Justice in Palestine, CSUF
Students for Justice in Palestine, UCLA
Muslim Student Association, CSUSB
Students for Justice in Palestine, UCSB
Students for Justice in Palestine, UCD
Students for Justice in Palestine, UCR
Muslim Student Association, UCR
General Union of Palestine Students, SFSU



The letter claims Ghassan Zakari's teaching is is inclusive of all backgrounds, and politics is left out in this linguistics course." This statement is contracted by an earlier claim made to Channel 10 News , implying the political nature of the course

The department chair said the professor used Palestine in place of Israel on the labels to "reflect the view of Arab-speakers in the region."
Also, the statement to the group said the language class professor intended to "have students get into groups and research the political developments of each area on the map, with the assumption that this would lead to a discussion of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and the history of the state of Israel."
Aristotle once said " It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
By refusing to address the historic truths of the region, and using his classroom as a forum for historical revisionism and indoctrination, Zakaria commits a grave disservice, not only to his students, but to higher education as well.

The San Diego State University (SDSU) teacher that eliminated Israel from the map is Ghassan Zakaria.

I called his number today (619-594-8800), as listed at the university website, and found myself talking to some random professor who tells me that Zakaria has moved to another office and that he, himself, has nothing to do with this situation, which I do not doubt in the least.

Basically what he told me was that Zakaria is no longer at this number.

I therefore called the Department of Linguistics and Asian / Middle Eastern Languages (619-594-5268) and was told that the department is no longer taking inquiries on the matter and referred me to the office of the president of the university.

Algemeiner has a recent update with a few new tidbits.
Ghada Osman, chair of the SDSU Linguistics & Asian/Middle Eastern Languages department, eventually wrote to concerned community members that Zakaria would replace the map with one that identifies Israel.
How nice is that?

I think that we should all call department head, Osman, and thank her at (619-594-1910).

I tried to do so but was told by her department secretary that all inquiries were being handled by the office of the president of the university, Elliot Hirshman.

Naturally I called that number (619-594-5201) and could do nothing more than leave a message.

StandWithUs, however, is happy as they have now awarded scholarships for students to the university:
“We are especially appreciative and impressed by the university’s rapid response to concerns we expressed on behalf of students,” StandWithUs CEO Roz Rothstein said in a statement. “We only wish other universities were as responsive to student concerns.

StandWithUs also announced the formation of two new scholarship funds to expand its relationship with the university—the “Stand With Us-San Diego State Jewish Studies Scholarship” (supporting students enrolled in Jewish Studies courses) and the “Stand With Us-San Diego State Israel Study Abroad Scholarship.
The CEO of StandWithUs is Roz Rothstein.

I just got off the phone with Jen Kutner, also of StandWithUs, who tells me that for the first time ever a university - San Diego State University - is putting together a fund for StandWithUs and I think this is terrific.

SDSU is handling this thing in a manner that Jewish people who care about the well-being of Israel should be pleased with.

I hope sometime this week to speak with Nicole Bernstein to get her take, as she was the StandWithUs spokesperson who spoke with ABC News on the original story.

I have no particular desire to kick San Diego State University in the head and I honestly believe that they have handled this situation in a responsible and fair manner.

Good for president Hershman and department chair, Osman.

But the main kudos must go to Nicole Bernstein, of StandWithUs, for taking the lead and for standing up for the Jewish people

The San Diego State University (SDSU) teacher that eliminated Israel from the map is Ghassan Zakaria.

I called his number today (619-594-8800), as listed at the university website, and found myself talking to some random professor who tells me that Zakaria has moved to another office and that he, himself, has nothing to do with this situation, which I do not doubt in the least.

Basically what he told me was that Zakaria is no longer at this number.

I therefore called the Department of Linguistics and Asian / Middle Eastern Languages (619-594-5268) and was told that the department is no longer taking inquiries on the matter and referred me to the office of the president of the university.

Algemeiner has a recent update with a few new tidbits.
Ghada Osman, chair of the SDSU Linguistics & Asian/Middle Eastern Languages department, eventually wrote to concerned community members that Zakaria would replace the map with one that identifies Israel.
How nice is that?

I think that we should all call department head, Osman, and thank her at (619-594-1910).

I tried to do so but was told by her department secretary that all inquiries were being handled by the office of the president of the university, Elliot Hirshman.

Naturally I called that number (619-594-5201) and could do nothing more than leave a message.

StandWithUs, however, is happy as they have now awarded scholarships for students to the university:
“We are especially appreciative and impressed by the university’s rapid response to concerns we expressed on behalf of students,” StandWithUs CEO Roz Rothstein said in a statement. “We only wish other universities were as responsive to student concerns.

StandWithUs also announced the formation of two new scholarship funds to expand its relationship with the university—the “Stand With Us-San Diego State Jewish Studies Scholarship” (supporting students enrolled in Jewish Studies courses) and the “Stand With Us-San Diego State Israel Study Abroad Scholarship.
The CEO of StandWithUs is Roz Rothstein.

I just got off the phone with Jen Kutner, also of StandWithUs, who tells me that for the first time ever a university - San Diego State University - is putting together a fund for StandWithUs and I think this is terrific.

SDSU is handling this thing in a manner that Jewish people who care about the well-being of Israel should be pleased with.

I hope sometime this week to speak with Nicole Bernstein to get her take, as she was the StandWithUs spokesperson who spoke with ABC News on the original story.

I have no particular desire to kick San Diego State University in the head and I honestly believe that they have handled this situation in a responsible and fair manner.

Good for president Hershman and department chair, Osman.

But the main kudos must go to Nicole Bernstein, of StandWithUs, for taking the lead and for standing up for the Jewish people

There was no Israel on the initial map. Thats the elimination of Israel. Nice attempt to cover yer butt, though

Truth and history should be taught in California schools. Is that so much to ask for?

the open letter of support speaks for it'self

if you look around a bit on the forum I linked to you'll see me asking the pentacunt and russia and china to 'please glass isra go-to-fucking-hell and eliminate the core source of the world's war problem'

..if I was trying to cover anything I wouldn't have linked to it.

it's to let you know your framing is not only rejected, but turned around and used against you, and that there's plenty more, far more biting than a website like this could ever bear, there being no censorship and no rules at all, while everyone is anonymous - hasbara agents don't do well when they can't control the framing and parameters of a 'struggle of opinion' (as opposed to the relaying of facts), the hasbara training materials specifically steer the communication away from facts. you'll find more facts than you ever care to distract from on there, mainly relating to climate and near-term extinction, which reflects directly on lack of water and the enormous energy required to desalinate plus wet bulb temperature and what that means to human survival in a desert - you hasbara agents live in a fantasy land and think the world revolves around you and your illegal occupation, completely oblivious to whats really happening and willfully ignorant ;

"israel's bright future"

if this wasn't so sadly out of touch with the real world it would be laughable

What some people call "Israel" is NOT a "legitimate country" as Stand with Us would have you believe. What THEY call "Israel" is a state, not a country. The so called Christian crusader states were also NOT legitimate countries. They were Allegedly Christian STATES.

The STATE of "Israel" is Zionist occupied Palestine. Palestine is a country. The fact that Palestine is occupied by invaders does not change the fact that Palestine is a country. It just means that foreign invaders are denying Palestinians their basic human right of self determination. Any university would know the reality. Any university student out of public high school would know the reality.

"Israel" is a state". It happens to be a state of occupation, which is a state of war. Zionist occupation of ANY Palestinian lands is an offensive act of war.

It really is pathetic that a so "called" university could have the basic issues so confused.

I guess they must be graduates of public high schools.

Free Tibet!!! Free Palestine for the same damn reason.

.....so called "Palestine" has never been a "country" in the entire history of mankind....it was a Roman province for a while...then a satrapy under the Ottoman Turks...and then part of the British Mandate....but never an actual "country" that was ever diplomatically recognized by anyone else...Israel,by contrast,has been a legally incorporated country since 1948....ever since then and to this day it is a member in good standing of the United Nations...and diplomatically recognized as such by over 100 individual nations as well.....so let's see...who should I accept as an authority on whether Israel is a country or not?...prion or the United Nations.....gee,that's a real toughie

This is a stamp of "Palestine" in 1920, issued by Jordan. So Jordan is Palestine?

Lord locksley "argues" tha Palestine never being a "state" means that Palestine was never a "country".

Yep, it looks like LL is a graduate of America's education system, and can't distinguish a state from a country from a nation from his own elbow.

recognized by anyone else. Thank you for showing us your prejudiced ignorance.

What that stamp shows is that "Jordan" ( a phony "country", actually a state, created by British occupiers of Palestine), is in reality eastern Palestine, presently occupied by Heshemite Arabs from the Hejez region of Saudi Arabia ( a state created by diplomatic recognition ) of western inter loapers who have ZERO bussines deciding who gets to live yes, literaly LIVE in their own homelands).

Thank you too for being void of anything of actual substance.

Iraq, Jordan, Syria, ..these are all invented countries. Maybe it's time to dismantle all and give each ethnic group their own spot of land. The Kurds are carving out a bit in Syria. Good for them.

it's very safe to endlessly banter back & forth questions like the origin of an invaded & occupied tract of land

and you're all very good at it

but the larger issues such as NTE, or even the direct issue of 'settlements on the ground' vs lines on a map - not so much

and here I was accusing the hasbara agent of being out of touch..

On Aug 28 2013, a map of the Middle East was handed out to an Arabic Class at San Diego State University. The class is taught by Professor Ghassan Zakaria, a respected professor at San Diego State. The map did not show the state of Israel, but instead, labeled Israel as “Palestine.” There was no context, no explanation no discussion to frame the reasons why Professor Zakaria chose to distribute this particular map. Students were very concerned.

Jewish students in the class felt that replacing Israel with Palestine on a map and passing that map out in a public University classroom, supports and even promotes the idea that a Jewish State should not exist.

The right thing to do would be to go to the head of the department and complain about the professor, right? Well, I can tell you from personal experience, students in that type of situation do not want to risk their relationship with their professor, and also don’t want to risk their grades, or their educational careers. Most students I know would rather be uncomfortable in a situation like this rather than risk their entire semester or year in order to voice their opinion. However, this time, the students united and spoke up. Instead of staying quiet, we brought the map to a place where they knew we could protest safely, StandWithUs (SWU).

SWU is a 12 year-old international non-profit Israel education organization that supports people around the world who want to educate their campuses and communities about Israel. The StandWithUs Emerson Fellowship, now In its seventh year, selects and trains more than 50 student leaders on different campuses in the US and Canada to educate about Israel and combat anti-Israel rhetoric.

StandWithUs – San Diego regional director Nicole Bernstein immediately alerted the community and posted on her Facebook an Action Alert. A flood of concerned letters were sent to the SDSU administration and the head of the department from individuals and even from professors at other California universities. SDSU’s Aztecs for Israel strongly condemned the use of this falsified academic material and demanded a public apology from Zakaria and from the administration. SDSU’s ABC affiliate, News10 broke the story that evening.

Thankfully, the university took immediate action. Ghada Osman, chairman of the Linguistics and Asian/Middle Eastern Languages department at SDSU wrote that Zakaria would replace the map, stating: “Prof. Zakaria explained [to me] that the reason that he utilized the label ‘Palestine’ was because this map was supposed to reflect the view of Arabic-speakers in the region. After assigning the map, his aim was then to have students get into groups and research the political developments of each area on the map, with the assumption that this would lead to a discussion of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and the history of the state of Israel. After our conversation, Prof. Zakaria agreed that it would be more appropriate to discuss the context of the assignment at the outset. He will therefore explain the context and distribute a map that includes labels for members of the Arab League as well as Israel.”

On the new map, “Israel” is hand written. He apologized to his class.

StandWithUs gave my fellow students in Professor Zakaria’s class a safe outlet to voice their opinion, and mobilized more than 1,000 letters and calls to the university, according to the school’s administration. As students, we want to ensure that our professors use material in classrooms that reflects honest and factual information and history.

Nicole Bernstein remarks, “SWU sees these kinds of issues on campuses all over the world, but we have never seen a university jump into action so quickly and so efficiently the way SDSU has; they took this issue very seriously and have done a tremendous job working internally to fix the problem. From our perspective, they are a model for all other universities where students encounter anti-Israel activities on campus.”

StandWithUs CEO Roz Rothstein agreed and added, “We are especially appreciative and impressed by the university’s rapid response to the concerns we expressed on behalf of students. We only wish other universities were as responsive to student concerns.”

SDSU’s administration took the situation one step further. President Elliot Hirschman and Andrea Rollins, Chief of Staff, Office of the President created two programs: the StandWithUs -San Diego State Jewish Studies Scholarship and the StandWithUs – San Diego State Israel Study Abroad Scholarship. This is the first time that any university has set up scholarship funds in partnership with StandWithUs.

stand with us is a hasbara operation


that thinks the world revolves around isra go-to-fucking-hell and tries to hide their zionist racism behind jewish people by pretending they have wide support when in fact they are a tiny minority with their self-important heads up their ass.

spewing propaganda trying to drown (information dominance - a well worn PR tactic) reality in a sea of words.


- the reality is the whole world despises them, considers them the greatest threat to world peace, poll after poll keeps showing.

..megaphone not withstanding

I think the Jews are well aware that they are a tiny minority. After all, there are a billion and a quarter Muslims in the world and only 14 million Jews. there are 56 Muslims nation states, ( and 22 Arab-Muslim ones) and only one Jewish nation state.

Its a miracle Israel lasted this long. (or maybe was it divine intervention?)

..and isra go-to-fucking-hell isn't a "jewish nation" it's an illegally invaded & occupied tract of desert that can't sustain modern civilization without fossil fuel inputs which is contributing to rapid climate change and tipping point induced near term extinction.

- no different than arizona, nevada, new mexico and so on.

people lived there for thousands of generations but that was before world population grew to billions and the era of fossil fuels - now we're all facing a world stressed beyond it's carrying capacity, and areas like that with little water and salt rapidly encroaching in the aquifer *due to consumption way beyond it's replenishment rate* means even more greenhouse gas emitting energy is needed to support the massive water requirements. soon it will be so hot there people will die exposed outdoors and *plants will die too* cities in the desert will be the first to be abandoned due to the extreme heat and lack of water.

a "nation" built in an unsustainable tract of desert is nothing to be proud about - it completely depends on stealing other nations resources to survive - like the oil pipelines from Iraq, and the stolen water from Jordan just to name a few examples.

Our tax dollars - tens of billions per year, and other nations natural resources won't last, and there's nothing to fall back on.

Are you proposing the entire world go back to its bronze age roots? Or just Israel?

I'm not 'proposing' anything - simply relaying facts. Deserts cannot support non-sustainable fossil fueled masses of people, and will be the first areas to be abandoned when it becomes too hot and dry to sustain both animal and plant life.

- now that tipping points have been crossed, see:

http://guymcpherson.com/

and enlighten yourself, insted of playing dumb & blind

denial and willful ignorance is no way to go through life

Iraq Jordan and Syria are invented states. Not invented countries. You can not invent a country.

Again we witness the product of the public education system.

Syria IS a country. But as you pointed out, the STATE of Syria includes a portion of the Kurdish people's country.

Any chance in hell that you, or anyone else, is catching on to the nuances of the English language???
yes, we have different words for different things. States, countries nations. They ALL have different words for different things. Hmmmm, I wonder why that is. Am I the ONLY one who does any wondering at all???

And then you write of dismantling states thousands of miles away. Good GOD! Are you really so full of yourself that you think (probably that you FEEL) that you have such authority???

Yank your head out of your anus. You are just making yourself look like a Satan worshiping Satan worshiper.

Next come C-I making no valid points, again. Pass.

Next comes Sheli. Wow. Replacing "Israel" with Palestine on a map is somehow comparable to the Zionist invaders replacing PALESTINE with Zionist occupied Palestine (aka, "Israel") as an offense. Wow. Can there really be people so full of dung??? Obviously YES!!!

Ohhh, they are not promoting the IDEA that a Jewish state does NOT have a right to exist, as you would FORCE us to define the debate. They are promoting the IDEA that Zionist invaders do not have a birthright of murderous theft of ANY Palestinian lands. NOT ONE SINGLE ROCK, NOT ONE SINGLE GRAIN OF SAND.

And if I were a student< i would feel extreamly uncomfortable letting you or SWU define the debate since you are so prejudiced that you would define the debate over whether or not a Jewish state has a right to exist ( a meaningless philosophical issue at best, over the real world issue of whether or NOT Zionist invaders have a birthright of murderous theft of Palestinian lands.

Yes, SWA has a long history of destroying universities. University, root word, universal. encompassing all points of view. They would have you ONLY debating whether or not a Jewish state had a right to exist, as a means of diverting you away from the real world issue of whether or not Zionists have a right to be murderous thieves of Palestinian lands.

Are you prejudiced enough to buy into the SWA's meaningless philosophical debates of whether or not a Jewish state has a right to exist in order to run away run away from the REAL WORLD ISSUE of whether or NOT Zionist invaders have a birthright of murderous theft of Palestinian lands??? DO you really want to be THAT guy or THAT girl??? How much more pathetic can you get? How about sex??? Are you also willing to degrade your moral values for cash??? Cuz I got an extra $50 bucks this week

And then C-I and Zionist enabler goes tit for tat with nothing of substance to add. Palestine was just fine before Zionists invaded. Even paying Turks a huge portion of what they produced.

But feel free to write about your thoughts (more likely you feelings) on the subject. I will remain happy to point out your prejudices to anyone who shows up on this thread.

"stand with us is a hasbara operation "

Good for them. I'm glad the students had somewhere to turn. So often complaints like this are swept under the rug, by university administrators.

- right out of the hasbara manual, creates the illusion of popularity, and avoids having any responsibility for any one persona saying any one thing

" I'm glad the handful of butthurt zionists had _paid professional liars_ to turn to"

- too bad the hasbara training materials have nothing to say about climate chaos, sustainibility or near term extinction. or even energy, desalination and salt encroachment.

hasbara talking points designed to steer one away from such harsh realities just don't cut it in this day & age.

..and hasbara talking points are all you have.


nice of pitypartyy to keep the struggle of opinion game going - it's all he knows how to do you see

..he's _our_ hasbara agent

both of you just pretend the outdoors doesn't exist while you sling handfuls of monkey shit at eachother in your mind cages

David Klein, a math professor at CSU Northridge, subjects his students to a steady diet of anti-Israel propaganda. Its pretty darn awful. And you can't say anything, He has all the power.

..and the truth is bad and must be suppressed - for hasbara's sake.

other truths like the unsustainibility of cities in the desert, contributing to climate change by burning fossil fuel to desalinate water after having depleted the stolen aquifer under that stolen land "we've been depleting that aquifer for 3000000000000000000 years, it just in the last few decades decided to deplete!"

whoops hasbara lies don't mesh well with truth

..better just ignore truth, reality, the present and most especially the future

hasbara can't take it - those things are "anti israel propaganda"

..only the past isn't "anti israel propaganda" because :

1.) it can't be proven - none of those pesky facts get in the way

2.) it doesn't matter - and that's what PR is all about, distracting audiences with shit that doesn't matter


what DOES matter, the future, the climate, fossil fuel use, water use - these issues must be ignored at all costs

hasbara demands another single person be focused on insted, which has nothing to do with anything that matters

Is this nut bar blaming Israel for global warming?

israel is absolutely blameless for anything

..ask any hasbara agent

Here's a photo from Israel. Bet you weren't expecting carpets of wildflowers.

Yeah, that blooming desert stuff is so cliched

.....that entire landscape was a dirty plot by Zionist botanists to give so called "Palestinian" horticulturists an inferiority complex......it probably worked,too

tap dance around the facts and attack the messenger

Zionists have no birthright of murderous theft of Palestinian lands at all. Zionists creating greenhouse gasses? What??? Like Zionists creating greenhouse gasses is going to lesson the offensive nature of the Zionist's alleged birthright of murderous theft of Palestinian lands??? Wrong!!! Zionists have no birthright of murderous theft of Palestinian lands!!!

This is just YOU calling Zionists sub human untermenschen for poisoning the air.

That is NOT why Zionists have no birthright of murderous theft of Palestinian lands. Zionists have no birthright of murderous theft of Palestinian lands, for the same exact reason that YOU have no birthright of murderous theft of Palestinian lands.

What? Do you think that if Mormons were not to create as much pollution that Mormons being murderous thieves of Palestinian lands would make their murderous theft of Palestinian lands LESS of an offense???

Make some seance next time you post a comment.

You just make me sick knowing that people like you exist and that people like you have get to vote.

if voting changed anything they'd make it illegal

if the internet changed anything they'd make it illegal

if independent news changed anything they'd make it illegal

Oops. looks like its the Jewish state thats actually shrinking

the extent they'll suck it dry for endless war

1922 map

Thank you for admitting that Heshemite occupied eastern Palestine is in fact a portion of Palestine

1973 map

A cease fire line between Zionist invaders of western Palestine and Heshemite invaders of Eastern Palestine. Wow. Kind of like the map NAZI invaders of Poland and Soviet invaders of Poland created in 1939.

1974

disengagment lines. Again, who disengaged from what? Zionist invaders of Palestine disengaged from lands that they took from heshmite invadors of eastern Palestine??? Nope, it looks like Zionist invaders of Western Palestinian disengaged from Syrian lands that the Zionists invaded.

1975

Zionists withdraw from Egyptian lands they invaded. Doesn't make the Zionist invasion of Palestinian lands any less of a blood soaked offense, but the Zionist enablers seem to think / feel that it makes the Zionist's chosen blood soaked war of conquest of Palestinian lands something less of an offense.

1979

Same as above, Zionists ending their occupation of Egyptian lands that the Zionists chose to invade is somehow (?) supposed to make the Zionist's murderous theft of Palestinian lands seem somehow (?) less of a blood soaked offense.

1982

Same old BS. Gets a bit old after awhile. I mean, how many times can someone call BS on the same BS without it becoming odious. Is that the right word??? Who knows what odious means??? Anyone???

2000

Zionists withdraw from west bank. Sort of. Even as you read these words, Zionist invaders keep destroying Palestinian villages in the "west bank" and creating new Zionist "settlement" in the "west bank", but there are some people who would tell you that Zionists "withdrew" from the West Bank. I mean, it is an absolute load of BS, naked lies, undefendable load of crap, yet all you have to do is look up 2 post and see it your very eyes.

2005

Withdraw from Gaza. Wow, and actual true statement. After all the BS chump tried to sell us. An actual true statement. But again, there is another BUT. Can any of you tell us what it is???

I have decided to get a T shirt made with "A land without a people for a people without a land" and a Zionist crusader flag on the front, and "there's nobody here and they're trying to kill us" and a Palestinian flag on the back.

Any ideas on a design will be appreciated.