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Religious extremism acts to defy logical thinking

by religion add fuel to fire of imperialism Saturday, Sep. 22, 2012 at 6:48 PM

The rhetoric from religious extremism found in Christian Zionism (CUFI) and Islamist groups (Sunni Wahhabists) acts to prevent logical thinking and encourages meaningless sacrifice of life and limb from impressionalbe and vulnerable youth turned soldiers.



Empire building has always been supported by religious hype and extremism, from "Manifest Destiny" in the U.S. and beginning as early as the Burning Times and Inquisition. The Roman Empire persecution of the early Christians was also religiously motivated. The Roman Empire was a bad example of paganism, it shows that ANY religion can be used by tyrants for purposes of expansive militarism and occupations.

The reason that religion and empire are hopelessly linked is that the citizens of empire must be delusional enough from religious extremism to support such criminal acts by their government against people in other nations.

The source of the religious extremism are some minority extremists from both sides that push easily influenced people into becoming soldiers. Most young people in the U.S., Israel or Iran would not willingly sacrifice their lives to go and kill some strangers unless they were tricked by their respective leaders into believing that these strangers wished them harm.

Resources like petroleum may be the true source of the Middle East military conflicts, though for our leaders to openly admit this and to demand the youth of the U.S. sacrifice their lives for cheaper oil would not be acceptable, so our leaders must devise some religious based threat to motivate our nation's impressionable youth to give up school, family and work to become soldiers.

There are plenty of lies coming from Islamist extremists, especially those who seek to cover up their own past links to paganism. The daughters of Allah; Al Lat, Al Uzza and Menat are ignored and insulted by the right wing fundamentalist Islamists despite their importance to early Muslims as intercessors between humans and Allah. How can a true Muslim claim to love Allah while simultaneously denouncing Allah's daughters as "infidels"?



Background on pre-Islamic Arabic Paganism;

Daughters of Allah:-



It is an undeniable fact of history that before Muhammed was born, in the Pagan Arabian religion, Allah was the name of the principal deity in Mecca who had three daughters (S53:19/20): Uzzah; Lat; Manat. According to their traditions they acted as Allah's INTERCESSORS.

The Goddesses Al-Uzza, Al-Lat and Manat formed a triad in pre-Islamic Arabia.

The three were worshipped as uncut aniconic stones. They were widely worshipped: from Nabatean Petra in the North to the legendary Kingdoms of Arabia Felix in the South, including Saba, the Biblical Sheba; as far east as Iran and Palmyra; and the three of them were very popular Goddesses in Mecca at the time of Muhammad.

Sometimes the three of them are referred to as the daughters of Allah; sometimes Manat and Al-Lat are considered daughters of Al-Uzza.

Al-Uzza, "the Strong One", "The Most Mighty", "The Mighty One" was as mentioned earlier, a pre-Islamic Arabian goddess, the virgin warrior and youngest in the triad of goddesses was one of the most venerated Arab Deities, and the Goddess of the morning and evening star, the planet Venus and was a blood-thirsty goddess which requires sacrifices; both animal and human.





Despite the 'Islamization' of pagan Arabian religion, the 'Muslim' version of Allah did not escape his two daughters al Lat and al Uzza since they appear on top of almost every mosque and on the flags of several 'Muslim' countries. These are the Crescent (al Lat) and the Star/ Planet (al Uzza).

Muhammad, in the final analysis, had no choice but to keep almost 99% of pagan Arabian traditions and fetishes and only succeeded in destroying all the other rock gods and goddesses associated with Allah.

The same followers of Muhammad who rage against the pagans and Christians as idolators, are actually idolators 'par excellence' themselves, since they still venerate the same Arabian pagan symbols of their ancestors whom Muhammad and his Quran so assiduously insulted and consigned to Hell and Perdition.

20: 109 On that Day shall no intercession avail except for those for whom permission has been granted by (Allah) Most Gracious and whose word is acceptable to Him.

In Arabian paganism, the idea of subordinate divine beings acting as mediators and intercessors with Allah is a recorded fact. That Muhammad actually once thought of the three goddesses as interceding angels is shown by his later addition to the aforementioned

Sura 53.26-29:

53: 26 How many so ever be the angels in the heavens their intercession will avail nothing except after Allah has given leave for whom He pleases and that he is acceptable to Him. Verily it is they who believe not in the life to come, who name the angels with names of females: But herein they have no knowledge: they follow a mere conceit; and mere conceit can never take the place of acceptance of truth.'

Here Muhammad implies, that the goddesses are in reality angels, to whom the pagans in their ignorance have given feminine names (comp. 37, 149-50: 43.18). He also recognizes, albeit with strict reservations, the right of the angels to make intercession.



http://www.inthenameofallah.org/Daughters%20of%20Allah.html



The Chrisitans have covered up a great deal of their own history with paganism, such as the unknown birthdate of Jesus being celebrated only a few days away from the pagan celebration of Yule.



In 350, Pope Julius I declared that Christ's birth would be celebrated on December 25. There is little doubt that he was trying to make it as painless as possible for pagan Romans (who remained a majority at that time) to convert to Christianity. The new religion went down a bit easier, knowing that their feasts would not be taken away from them.

http://www.essortment.com/christmas-pagan-origins-42543.html

These were both political decisions by Mohammad and Pope Julius to ease tensions between the majority pagans and the "newcomer" religions of Islam and Christianity.

So yes, empire building was the true goal and religion became the mask worn to support the building of empire.

IF we removed religion from U.S. empire and applied only pure logic based upon the scientific method, how many people would still be willing to sacrifice their lives, limbs, eyes or other significant body parts to obtain cheaper oil??



My new food source are the religious extremists, starting with Christian Zionist John Hagee from Cornerstone Church in San Antonio, Texas. Mr. Hagee has repeatedly encouraged excessive military action against Palestinians through lobbying his politician allies such as GW Bush and Mitt "47%" Romney.

Anyone who claims that Mr. John Hagee and his merry band of Christian Zionists do not have any influence in Middle Eastern politics is living in a state of pure ignorance, blissful or otherwise



Background on Hagee and CUFI (Christians United For Israel)



Rev. Hagee Does AIPAC

A real historic turning point came for aipac when it opened up its coveted platform to Rev. John Hagee, who is founder of the organization "Christians United for Israel" (CUFI) at their annual Policy Conference (March 2007) in Washington DC . He was a keynote speaker on Sunday night, and the response to his speech (that can be read in full here) was enthusiastic overall. Yet even among aipac faithful there was trepidation. After all, Hagee's agenda, like that of the Christian Zionist Right in general, is extremely militaristic (he believes that the coming "nuclear showdown with Iran is a certainty"). He even has implied support for Yigal Amir, the assassin of Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin. He opposes any compromise with Palestinians. Hagee's ideology also is anti-Semitic in that he believes that the "rebellion" of the Jews caused the Holocaust, and that the Holocaust was God's way of forcing Jews to move to Israel. So this is a new and dangerous alliance, an embrace of a real loony ideology. Thanks to the leadership of AIPAC, the likes of Hagee has now been brought to the mainstream. He shares a stage not only with Dick Cheney but also with "liberal" Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi. Strange bedfellows indeed.

http://www.stopaipac.org/christianright.htm

"Hagee pretends the relationship between Christians and Jews in biblical times still applies today.

He uses ‘mushroom management’ methods – keep ‘em in the dark and keep shoveling horse manure at ‘em. If his Cornerstone church followers bothered to take an independent trip to the West Bank and Gaza – and I do mean independent, not an Israeli bus tour with guides trained by the Tel Aviv propaganda department (or by Hagee) – they’d quickly discover the unpalatable truth. The glitzy Hagee empire, and others like it, would then crumble."

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/03/30/the-zionist-cuckoos-in-christianitys-nest/.



This Christian Zionist nonsense spouted by Mr. John Hagee and his ilk is directly responsible for inflaming tensions and brainwashing youth into thinking they are sacrificing life and limb for some "Holy" cause.



So yes, i am on the hunt and Mr. John Hagee is my favorite food source.

Dedicate this verse to Mr. John Hagee;

"Mouth is alive, juices like wine

and i'm hungry like the wolf

You'll feel my heat i'm just a moment behind.

In touch with the ground, i'm on the hunt i'm after you!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOg5VxrRTi0&feature=related

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The religious extremism in Sabeel also defies logic Sabeel is anti-Semitic Sunday, Sep. 23, 2012 at 9:18 PM
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