References:

We Are Change: http://wearechange.org/deptofhumanity/

Burrito Project: http://tinyurl.com/yr6tjy

We Are Change is a grassroots activist group that is a moderated outgrowth of the "patriot movement", a generally conservative "libertarian" political movement often associated with the militia movement of the 1980s. The patriot movements' primary concerns are Constitutional fundamentalism, gun ownership, and international isolationism.

We Are Change is aesthetically neutral, eschewing the traditional patriot aesthetic of red-white-blue, flags, and eagles, in favor of the "Adbusters flag" of America sold out to corporations. Their main political focus is "911 truth", except with the political intent of getting people together and pushing them toward supporting the patriot movement's political concerns.

The Burrito Project is a direct action project to feed homeless and hungry people, by cooking up burritos and giving them away. TBP is explicitly apolitical, or claims to be apolitical, and does not wish to be affiliated with Food Not Bombs. FNB is a well known feeding project that is anarchist, and with a stated goal of exposing the relationship between hunger, poverty, waste, and war.

FNB rescues food that will be thrown away from stores and farmers markets, cooks it, and serves it in a public place. The name "Food Not Bombs" makes a political statement that society should be organized to satisfy human needs, not to create war and violence. By feeding people in public, and eating in public, they expose the issue of homelessness, and the crime of throwing away edible food simply because it's unsellable in the market. (Different FNBs do this to different degrees - some feed the homeless where they are segregated, and others get the homeless to eat in more visible places.) FNB is operated according to anarchist principles of consensus organizing.

The Burrito Project encourages people to form tiny cliques, and then purchase cheap ingredients from the store. Then, they take the food, cooked, to homeless people, and give them the food, clandestinely if necessary. Their goal is to feed people.

More importantly, the goal of BP is to help people feel good about themselves, that they are "doing something". And, as it grows, it can draw people away from a project like FNB, and the FNB politics.

Without politics, feeding is pointless. The fact is, there is a lot of food for homeless people. According to administrators of missions downtown, there are "soup kitchens" and other groups feeding, as well as food stamps and food banks. Residential programs to transition homeless people back into the labor market sometimes have meal programs.

Without politics, the participants in the BP are going to find little reason to keep feeding -- they will end up dropping out, or changing focus. With politics, the participants in FNB can learn to create public demonstrations that challenge society to change, so that homelessness is decriminalized and reduced, and feeding the homeless is legalized.

The problem of apolitical direct action already been demonstrated by the fact that the We Are Change organization has adopted the Burrito Project as a compatible project that people can do to feel more connected to We Are Change.

What was once an impulse directed toward larger political action, has been adopted by a right-wing front group.

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2007/0507/072.html

In this article in Forbes magazine, the CEO of MySpace, a News Corp employee, touts the Burrito Project. Food Not Bombs is not mentioned.

Food Not Bombs is over 20 years old, and has over 400 projects operating as FNB, around the globe.

MySpace is taking credit for popularizing a project that is a copy of a project that's already been on the internet for a decade.

I'm an anarchist and I have no problem with what they're doing. Perhaps they will learn the joy of helping others and giving. It will improve their outlook on life and perhaps move them towards the left. No one has a monopoly on the right to do good.

Here's something written in response to a concern on sfimc about pagan tatooes that were "hate-based" and ended up being a discourse in the secessionist, separatist and sedition movements found throughout the U.S.

This relates to the above article only in that sometimes neo-liberals, anarchists and communists can be equally as reactionary as the nationalists they seek to oppose. When the U.S. government adopts a centrist position of "free" market capitalism or corporatism, both sides of the "extreme" left and right find one another at odds..

The question posed to the author of the article about the "burrito project" could be "Why are you so threatened by their apolitical stance?" and if Food Not Bombs is committed to helping others obtain food, why is another organization doing similar acts seen as a threat? Are there not enough hungry people in L.A. to feed that another group is seen as competition?

In addition my reasons for withdrawing from the anarchist milue is the cliqueish mentality that adheres to certain styles and preferences over others, if you're not listening to the same music, dressing the same, you're either a sell-out or a nationalist or a commie, etc..

Overcoming racial differences in secession

Geo-Class struggle unity against U.S. empire

Thursday Feb 7th, 2008 8:04 PM

Maybe we're all missing the point of how the U.S. imperialists have frequently taken the appearance of the "centrist" position of free market capitalism in an integrated society and then watched the "left" and the "right" and various ethnic groups fight one another until they collectively run out of energy to significantly challenge the imperialists and the corporations themselves..

Class struggle from an anarchist and leftist perspective seeks to overcome the economic differences, though we can't even seem to unify as a single "class". After all, people of different economic levels either identify with those closest to them in economic status and/or ethnic and cultural status. To get everyone from the prison inmates to the homeless to the students to the workers all on the same page in unified struggle against the upper elite class of politician rulers and corporate executives isn't easy..

The secessionist movements, separatist and otherwise, seek to address the inequalities of class under current capitalist structures by unification based on geographics, not specifically on class or race. If certain areas have a predominant ethnic group, it makes sense for them to rally around and support one another based upon their shared characteristic, as they will not all be in the same economic strata for that region..

Though it is important to be aware of one's surroundings in every community, we need to watch ourselves when tempted to jump to conclusions about others based upon abstract symbols like pagan tatooes. Especially when the entities like ADL, SPLC, etc.. who list pagan tatooes as symbolic of "Hate groups" are themselves engaged in some questionable labeling practices of animal rights activists..

This earlier article in EF! Journal details the growing collaboration between U.S. Government Dept. Homeland Security and the ADL/SPLC when monitoring and labeling animal rights and anti-free trade activists;

"Extreme Confusion

Why Do Civil Rights Watchdog Groups Care About the Earth Liberation Front?"

By Josh

"When federal prosecutors recently likened the Operation Backfire defendants to the Ku Klux Klan (KKK), lawyers for the defense were quick to register their shock and disgust. Daniel McGowan’s attorney, Amanda Lee, appropriately condemned the comparison as “appalling,” “historically inaccurate” and “an insult to African-Americans.”

Although many animal rights and environmental activists seem startled by the prosecution’s analogy, it is merely the most visible and recent example of a growing tendency to conflate the Earth and animal liberation movements with racist hate groups. What’s most disturbing is that among the parties responsible for this trend are two of the nation’s largest and most prominent civil rights watchdog groups: the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) and the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC).

How did these organizations—which were founded with the express purpose of combating anti-Semitism and white supremacy, and which have enjoyed the strong support of liberals and progressives for decades—develop such a keen interest in the Earth and animal liberation movements? The answer lies in a disappointing, disturbing and largely unknown history of neoconservative political agendas, adherence to a centrist/extremist model of society, unethical and illegal intelligence-gathering activities, cooperation with law enforcement, poor journalism and fear-mongering.

The Anti-Defamation League

Founded in 1913, the ADL’s original mission of combating anti-Semitic slander and libel quickly expanded to include civil rights advocacy. During the 1930s, the ADL initiated the practice for which it has become best known: the monitoring of racist and fascist groups through research and covert intelligence gathering.

Previously a somewhat liberal organization, the ADL began to undergo a marked shift toward a neoconservative political orientation during the 1970s, which resulted in new alliances with the religious and political right, as well as increased cooperation with law enforcement. Additionally, the ADL adopted centrist/extremist theory, a neoconservative social model that clumps together all dissidents from the political right and left—regardless of their diverse and often conflicting agendas—and dismisses them as psychologically unstable people deserving of marginalization and imprisonment.

The disturbing results of the ADL’s blind commitment to centrist/extremist theory came to light in 1993, when a police investigation revealed that the ADL had assembled (perhaps illegally) files on thousands of Arab-American, anti-war, anti-apartheid, civil rights, environmental, labor and social justice groups, including ACT UP, the American Civil Liberties Union, the American Indian Movement, Food Not Bombs, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, Greenpeace and the Simon Wiesenthal Center. Although criminal charges were (miraculously) never filed, the scandal harmed the ADL’s reputation and drew attention to its increasingly reactionary and paranoid suspicion of progressives and radicals.

Given this troubling history, it is not at all surprising that the “Extremism in America” section of the ADL’s website currently lists “ecoterrorism” alongside racist and fascist groups like the KKK, the National Socialist Movement and the World Church of the Creator. Moreover, the ADL’s profiles of Earth First!, the Earth Liberation Front (ELF), the Animal Liberation Front (ALF) and Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty (SHAC) are littered with unqualified references to “terrorism” and “extremism,” as well as assurances that these nonviolent movements will inevitably (and intentionally) begin taking lives.

The examples that the ADL offers to confirm this charge are problematic at best and deliberately misleading at worst. For instance, the ADL states that in 1999, “a British reporter who had infiltrated the ALF the year before with a hidden camera… was abducted by a number of men. They branded the letters ‘ALF’ on his back.”

What the ADL doesn’t say is that, according to the British magazine Green Anarchist, this reporter had made similar claims before, like when he said that he’d been kidnapped and shot in the leg by EF!ers. The idea that two separate movements employed new, unprecedented and never-repeated tactics of kidnapping and torture against the same person is simply too far-fetched to be true. Apparently, the police found Hall’s story unconvincing and promptly abandoned their criminal investigation. In treating this highly suspicious incident as proven fact, the ADL has failed to uphold its mission of assembling “accurate, detailed, unassailable information” and disseminating its findings through responsible and ethical journalism.

The Southern Poverty Law Center

The SPLC has followed a similar path from legitimate anti-racist work to the demonization of radical dissent. The SPLC was founded by Morris Dees and Joe Levin in 1971, as a small law firm focusing on civil rights cases. During the 1980s, the SPLC was catapulted into the national spotlight by a series of legal victories that bankrupted KKK and neo-Nazi groups. It quickly became one of the most visible and best funded anti-racist watchdog groups in the US.

Like the ADL, the SPLC has attracted significant controversy. In 2000, Harper’s Magazine published an article by Ken Silverstein—the magazine’s award-winning Washington Editor—alleging that the SPLC greatly overstates the threat posed by hate groups in order to raise more money.

“In 1986,” Silverstein wrote, “the SPLC’s entire legal staff quit in protest of Dees’ refusal to address issues—such as homelessness, voter registration and affirmative action—that they considered far more pertinent to poor minorities, if far less marketable to affluent benefactors, than fighting the KKK.”

Another similarity to the ADL is the SPLC’s Intelligence Project, which gathers information on a variety of “extremist” groups and publishes its findings in the quarterly Intelligence Report. While typically focused on white supremacists, the Report began covering the anti-globalization, animal rights and radical environmental movements following the 1999 World Trade Organization (WTO) protests in Seattle, Washington. Although the Report has generally avoided the “ecoterrorism” label in favor of “ecoradicalism,” it has undermined this sober restraint through a campaign of innuendo, conjecture, misinformation and fear-mongering that makes the ADL look amateurish by comparison.

In the Winter 2000 edition of the Report, for example, the SPLC concluded that the WTO protests signaled a coming alliance between right-wing and left-wing

opponents of globalization, including neo-Nazis, the Nation of Islam and Earth First!. This charge was repeated in the Summer 2001 Report, which flung numerous outlandish accusations at the ELF in the hope that one might stick. The SPLC charged that “the ELF’s use of underground violence strongly resembles ex-Klansman Louis Beam’s concept of ‘leaderless resistance,’” as if this shared organizational structure is proof of a common racist ideology. Never mind the fact that leaderless resistance was actually developed by a US intelligence officer as a strategy for combating communist “extremists.”

The same Report also stated that “the ELF recently set this year’s ‘International Day of Action’ for April 19—a mythic date for the anti-government right. It was that day in 1993, when about 80 Branch Davidian cult members died in a fire in Waco, Texas…. It is also the day that Timothy McVeigh blew up a federal building in Oklahoma City in 1995, killing 168.” The Report ignored that the ELF chose the date for its proximity to Earth Day (April 22, 2001), and it did not even consider the possibility that the relation to Waco and Oklahoma City was a coincidence. Maybe the ELF picked April 19 because it’s the anniversary of the 1943 Warsaw Ghetto Uprising—a significant event in the history of Jewish liberation and the fight against fascism. This explanation is as likely as any other.

Dozens of similar articles in the Intelligence Report make it clear that the SPLC advances conjecture as fact and coincidence as conspiracy, while excluding any information that might undermine its desired conclusion that the ELF is on the verge of allying itself with violent racists.

Disturbing Implications

If the ADL and the SPLC were small organizations on the margins of popular discourse and public policy, there would be little need for concern. However, both groups are large, particularly the ADL, which has 30 regional and three international offices. The ADL and the SPLC are also incredibly well-funded, with total annual revenues of more than $50 million and $30 million, respectively. Finally, and perhaps most disturbingly, both organizations enjoy significant influence with politicians, law enforcement and the public at large.

In 2002, a US congressional questionnaire sent to former ELF spokesperson Craig Rosebraugh quoted the SPLC’s charges of a growing alliance between the ELF and the racist, fascist right. It then asked, “How do you feel about the ELF being compared to the KKK? Is this an accurate comparison? Do you feel a kinship of cause with ‘racists and fascists,’ as the SPLC contends?” (For the record, Rosebraugh brusquely answered, “A) That is ridiculous and insulting. I would expect the SPLC to have more intelligence than that. B) No. C) No.”) These and other absurd allegations are frequently adopted as fact by lawmakers and law enforcement, resulting in policies and investigations based on ADL and SPLC propaganda. It is entirely possible—even likely—that the federal prosecution’s recent comparison of the ELF to the KKK was inspired by these organizations’ reports.

Additionally, there is evidence to suggest that both the ADL and the SPLC have a history of conducting covert investigations using surveillance and infiltration tactics that law enforcement is generally barred from employing without a warrant. The organizations then provide this information to the police and the FBI, effectively circumventing constitutional rights of privacy and assembly. The result is that these private watchdog groups are increasingly complicit in classically fascist systems of government surveillance and control. Apparently, the ADL and the SPLC oppose fascism when it is promoted by private individuals but condone it when practiced by the state, which is precisely when it is most dangerous.

The general public is also susceptible to the assertions of the ADL and the SPLC. Media reports on the Earth and animal liberation movements frequently quote these esteemed watchdog groups, whose statements are uncritically presented as expert commentary. To a populace that knows very little about the radical environmental and animal rights movements, the fact that the ADL and the SPLC are being quoted would seem to imply that there is an anti-Semitic, racist or fascist component to these movements.

By advancing this kind of innuendo, the ADL and the SPLC cheapen oppression and transform it into a kind of rhetorical capital that can be wielded for political gain. By painting the radical environmental and animal rights movements as a bunch of Nordic youths waiting to be Nazified, these organizations effectively marginalize and delegitimize the radical Jews and people of color who are actively working for the liberation of animals and the Earth. Perhaps more than anything, this shows how low the ADL and the SPLC have sunk.

Conclusions

Obviously, the ADL’s and the SPLC’s focus on the Earth and animal liberation movements needs to be challenged, but this must be done carefully. Speaking and writing against the ADL and the SPLC is a delicate undertaking, especially since both organizations are generally perceived as unassailable warriors in the fight against oppression. We must always be clear that our problem is not with combating anti-Semitism, racism and fascism, but with doing so in a manipulative and unethical fashion in order to advance a repressive, neoconservative agenda.

Additionally, we must be careful not to accidentally align ourselves with white supremacists. When researching the dark side of these organizations, pay close attention to what your sources are. Many websites “exposing” the ADL and the SPLC are operated by KKK and neo-Nazi groups. If your source refers to “the Jew Morris Dees” or cites the ADL as part of the “worldwide Jewish conspiracy,” you should look elsewhere for

information.

As a final word of caution, it is my strong belief that direct action must be avoided. Home demonstrations and property damage will not work against the ADL or the SPLC. These organizations’ employees have endured death threats and physical violence from neo-Nazis and the KKK. They won’t be swayed by animal rights and environmental activists. Besides, this kind of approach would prove suicidal from both a law enforcement and public relations perspective. If action is to be taken, it should be restricted to peaceful demonstrations at relevant public events.

Effective opposition to unethical practices of the ADL and the SPLC must necessarily focus on the general public. Both organizations depend upon direct mail fundraising campaigns that tend to target liberals and progressives, who are largely unaware of these organizations’ dirty dealings. Mainstream animal rights and environmental activists, as well as sympathetic liberals and progressives, are likely to respond positively to a reasonable critique of these organizations.

Finally, Jewish animal rights and environmental activists—like myself—who are deeply disturbed by the ADL’s activities should discuss this with family, friends and members of our community. The involvement of a vocal contingent of anti-racist organizers, Jewish activists and activist people of color would go a long way toward legitimizing a challenge of the ADL and the SPLC, and it would help assure that these efforts retain the nuanced and cautious tone that they will require to be successful. Ultimately, exposing the reactionary and repressive nature of the ADL and the SPLC is not just about defending the Earth and animal liberation movements. It is about creating legitimate methods of challenging institutionalized oppression wherever it appears."

this article found @;

http://www.earthfirstjournal.org/article.php?id=314

Thoughts on secession from U.S. empire;

As mentioned above, several groups have shown interest in preferably non-violent secession from the U.S. system of imperialist capitalism. To group all secessionists as "racial seperatist" would be misleading and inaccurate, as some prefer integration and some don't. There seems to be plenty of space for both integrationists and seperatists in the greater secession movement, provided that nothing is forced upon anyone and no group becomes victimized and/or scapegoated based on ethnicity, culture, sexual orientation, etc..

Most of the people scapegoating Mexicans are in the psuedo-patriot (CIA initiated?) movement of Minutemen and S.O.S., the problem with these groups is that they refuse to understand or acknowledge the source of economic inequality is coming from NAFTA/WTO free trade policies that;

1) revokes protective tariffs in Mexico on imported corn

2) allows massive imports of subsidized corn from U.S. agribusiness (Cargill, ADM, ConAgra, etc..)

3) cheap imported U.S. corn drives Mexican farmers out of business and off their landspace

4) recently displaced Mexican farmers journey to el norte to find below minimum wage slavery on U.S. agribusiness plantation, many of which are owned by the same (type of) corporations that drove them off of their land in the first place!!

So, if these source problems (NAFTA/WTO) of economic based undocumented immigration are ignored and silenced by BOTH neo-conservative AND neo-liberal policy makers, and the so-called patriot groups like Minutemen/SOS continue to depend on scapegoating the Mexican migrants themselves, this problem of economic inequality will perpetuate itself into eternity, much to the delight of the corporatiuon that depend on the low wage labor of the Mexican migrants..

Scapegoating the symptom (undocumented immigration) without looking at the source allows this condition to worsen and continue. That is why it appears to this author that most anti-immigrant groups like Minutemen/S.O.S. are manifestations of the CIA/FBI/U.S. Gov intel as they are essentially top down heirachal brainwash camps similar to the racial segregation found in actual prisons..

Racial supremist hate groups are giving a bad name to legitimate secessionist movements based on either seperatism (not superiority) OR integration. To claim Hamas, NOI or other anti-Zionist groups are "hate-based" is also misleading, they simply want an end to the system of apartheid coming from the government that claims to be pro-integration. Just look around you at the ethnic divisions in neighborhoods in the U.S. and wonder how we call ourselves integrated? At least in a seperatist secession movement people can opt out of the inequalities found in our modern system..

What Martin Luther King Jr. asked for was an ending to the inequalites and abuse found under Southern apartheid and segregation enforced by a police state, what he got for his troubles was additional inequality under government controlled forced integration and an assassin's bullet. Malcolm X who preached a slightly different message and was in favor of equality under black nationalist separatism and also got more inequality under integration and another assassin's bullet. Seems like the problem the U.S. Government has is with the concept of equality, not whether people live in separatist or integrated communities..

The concept of an independent African nation in the southeastern U.S. isn't new, people have been discussing this for decades since the assassinations of the two civil rights leaders (Martin and Malcolm) mentioned above. The idea was originally brought up by Marcus Garvey, who suggested the Southern states be independent from the surrounding U.S. and engaged in trade and transit with African nations across the Atlantic and in the Caribbean. The concept was labeled "pan-Africanism" and is considered as "black nationalist" by many moderates..

One recent example of pan-Africanism and self-determination can be found at Muhammad Farms, an independent African-american owned and operated farming co-op located in Georgia. Not only does Muhammad Farms favor separatism and self-determination for African peoples in the U.S., they are also aware of the human health risks posed by corporate dominated agribusiness and genetically modified foods;

From Muhammad Farms Newsletter;

"The Miracle of Taste"

by Dr. Ridgely Abdul Mu’min Muhammad

"Have you ever watched an animal in the wild choose which plants to eat? I have noticed how deer would go through a field and sniff each plant before it ate one. Some it would eat and some it would leave alone. What were they sniffing for?

In a new book which we have reviewed on http://www.MuhammadFarms.com called "Seeds of Deception", the author Mr. Jeffrey Smith points out that cows when given a choice would not eat genetically modified corn. He documented instances where farmers would put genetically modified corn on one side of a feed trough and regular corn on the other. The cows would sniff the GM corn, but not touch it. They would move over to the regular corn and eat it all up.

There were other testimonials by farmers who observed that wild deer, that would normally eat the left over corn in a field after harvest, would not touch the corn in a field of genetically modified corn. Somehow the animals could smell and taste a difference in the genetically modified corn and would move towards the corn that they were familiar with.

Since the market failure of the FlavrSavr Tomato the biotech industry has shifted its attention away from genetically modifying fresh vegetables and fruits towards animal feed crops or crops that are used in processed foods. Fields of soybeans, corn, cotton, and canola cover over 145 million acres of cropland in the U.S. and are the front runners of these GMO crops."

This and other articles found @;

http://www.muhammadfarms.com/

also;

http://www.muhammadfarms.com/poems.htm

Other separatist movements are based upon a desire for all people to become independant from the U.S. empire. Cascadian movement in the Pacific Northwest is not based specifically on ethnicity, though is based on regional self-determination. Cascadian activists also recognize indigenous native North American Indians as being the original stewards of the land, and favor land reclamation and of violated stolen treaty land returned to indigenous native peoples..

info on Cascadia;

"Welcome to the Republic of Cascadia Homepage.

Now is the time for the citizens of Cascadia to demand their freedom from the oppressive governments of Canada and the United States. For too long have our people put up with indifference and condescendence from distant seats of power. We have been subject to francophonic imperialism and wasteful spending of our tax money. Our entrepreneurs have been attacked by the so-called justice system for merely doing their jobs and growing our economy. When will we say enough is enough?

The former American states of Oregon and Washington and the former Canadian province of British Columbia must join together as a sovereign nation. Only then can we have self-determination and take our rightful place in the Global Community."

Cacadia home @;

http://zapatopi.net/cascadia/

Within the southwestern states the Nuevo Aztlan secessionist movement works towards a free state independent of both the U.S. and Mexico. Would be inclusive of the large population of indigenous native North American Indian tribal nations and recent immigrants from Mexico..

"ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. — A University of New Mexico Chicano Studies professor predicts a new, sovereign Hispanic nation within the century, taking in the Southwest and several northern states of Mexico.

Charles Truxillo suggests the “Republica del Norte,” the Republic of the North, is “an inevitability.”

He envisions it encompassing all of California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas and southern Colorado, plus the northern tier of Mexican states: Baja California, Sonora, Chihuahua, Coahuila, Nuevo León and Tamaulipas.

Along both sides of the U.S.-Mexico border “there is a growing fusion, a reviving of connections,” Truxillo said. “Southwest Chicanos and Norteño Mexicanos are becoming one people again.”

Truxillo, 47, has said the new country should be brought into being “by any means necessary,” but recently said it was unlikely to be formed by civil war. Instead, its creation will be accomplished by the electoral pressure of the future majority Hispanic population in the region, he said."

article found @;

http://www.aztlan.net/homeland.htm

Am hesitant to include any weblinks to actual white separatist groups, though from what is available online this character actually shows some insight in this interview of FAQs;

" Q: White separatism is just a propaganda word for white supremacist, isn't it?

A: On the contrary, "white supremacist" is just a propaganda word, at least in many cases, for white separatism.

Q: Are you seriously trying to tell me that you don't want the white race to be supreme in the world?

A: I want the white people to control their own destiny in the territory they inhabit. "White supremacy" is a loaded phrase that implies oppression of other races. If we live in an all-white territory, there would be no need , desire or for that matter, ability, to oppress people of any other race.

Q: Then what you're saying is that the difference between a white separatist and a white supremacist is that one wants to control his destiny on his own land, the other wants to control other races in all lands.

A: We have white supremacy right now under Bill Clinton's liberal regime in Washington. They are importing cheap labor from the Third World because the white American man and white woman won't work that cheap. So the "lib-cons" ("liberal-conservatives"--the unholy marriage between left-wing state bureaucracy and right-wing capital), import the coolie labor and establish legislation such as NAFTA and GATT . Do you think colored people are benefiting from this buccaneer, "Free Trade" ideology? This praxis destroys all indigenous people and culture and it's being led by an age-old clique of Aryan Zionists."

on the NOI & Farrakhan;

"A: I regard as a potential ally anyone who cares for something more than money. It is the separatists of the other races who grasp many of the same things which I do, who I regard as far more trustworthy than the white Rockefellers, Kennedys, DuPonts and Bob Doles and Bill Clintons of the world.

Q: Even though, for example, Louis Farrakhan's Nation of Islam teaches that the white man is descended of the devil?

By their fruits--not their rhetoric-- ye shall know them. What have been the fruits of Farrakhan's organization? Self-respect, a desire for sovereignty, a willingness to speak radical truths at the cost of career, fortune or even one's life. Farrakhan gives his people order, organization and culture. He is a classical violinist. All of those traits are the attributes of civilization. I m glad to observe civilization arise among any people. It makes life easier for me and my kind.

At least Farrakhan does not play the cynical game of espousing a tough-talking "Hate Whitey" philosophy while lusting after my white wife, sister or daughter, as so many supposedly "decent, mainstream" and "non-hateful" blacks do. What is it with this bizarre phenomenon of hating white men while pursuing white women, if not warfare under another name?"

on the KKK and neo-Nazi skinheads;

"Today the klan is mostly a component of the B'nai B'rith and Hollywood. They act out a pre-determined role in the pre-determined script. They are pawns of their alleged enemies. I would suspect any Ku Kluxer or neo-Nazi today of being an FBI agent. Why not? Anyone using violence, except in the strictest terms as a means of self-defense for one's wife and children, for example, who might be getting mugged or something, is simply doing the work of the Federal government. The government must gradually clamp a police state upon the citizens of the U.S. If they do not, this corporate USA will secede into a hundred separate nations, quite conducive to insuring the rights of all of our citizens of whatever color. This must not be allowed, because the Overclass requires a huge national conglomerate of TV-doped masses to execute the will of the loansharks and serve as the mercenaries of the multinational corporations. Secession along mutually respectful racial and religious lines cannot be tolerated. Hence the System itself engineers terrorist outrages like the Oklahoma City bombing and uses semi-retarded people who call themselves klansmen, Nazis, skinheads--led by FBI "informants"--to get the wicked deed done."

DISCLAIMER: Certain statements found on this website below would be considered offensive and should be approached with caution. We all can agree to disagree on certain points, precisely the reason for including a white separatist who supports the NOI and yet discredits violent neo-Nazi skinheads and the KKK as agent provacatuers working with/for the FBI, whether they know it or not..

other FAQs of white separatists found @;

http://www.crusader.net/resources/election.html

Someone has taken the time to collect all the various sedition, separatist and secessionist movements throughout the U.S. and elsewhere;

http://www.angelfire.com/nv/micronations/usa.html

Conclusion and summary;

If anyone actually made it through all this writing and still is awake, the point is that we cannot over generalize our ideas based upon what one group believes to be true. Even within the separatist and secession movements there are a diversity of opinions and ideas as to how one should go about this process. Other than certain groups being nationalist in nature, there is no reason that secessionists, separatists and seditionists couldn't work in some way in cohesion with anarchists and possibly communists in the struggle to overthrow U.S. empire. When we factor in the Al-Queda groups, there could be some interesting events in the near future. We should all try to keep an open mind when dealing with groups and/or individuals painted as "extremist" by the status quo, which adheres to a centrist position of capitalism and corporate cronyism that doesn't benefit anyone besides the elite..