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[06-06-2007, 01:51 PM #4

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I will re-post this soon. But yes, we are marching in South Central on the 23rd. At first the march was going to coincide with another rally, however after speaking with FAIR and strategizing, it was decided to have one big march for the day. Ted has been recruiting in South Central for a couple months now and there is rumor that perhaps 1000 from the community will be there. This event will be advertised. ]



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Immigration protesters joined by neo-Nazis in California





Anti-immigration activist Joe Turner may be one of the best things to happen to the Southern California white power community in years — a man whose group is seen as a "Trojan horse" allowing radical infiltration of mainstream politics.

Turner, a Ventura, Calif., man who founded the immigrant-bashing Save Our State organization in late 2004, insists that he's no racist, even though his self-described "aggressive activism" includes claims that undocumented Mexican workers are turning California into "a third world cesspool" and his Web site vilifies a variety of prominent Hispanic officials in a "Racialist Hall of Fame."

But neo-Nazis have found in Turner a tolerant master of ceremonies. In rally after rally this year, Turner and other SOS officials have failed to turn away racist Skinheads and likeminded white supremacists who have joined their protests.

Swastikas and sieg heils aren't usually welcome on the streets of Southern California, but Turner's followers, including SOS spokesman Don Silva, have been photographed standing alongside Skinheads clad in high black boots with red laces. Most recently, swastika pennants and Confederate battle flags were hoisted alongside Turner's own picket signs during a July 30 protest outside a day laborer center in Laguna Beach. One group in the crowd sieg-heiled repeatedly.

Turner has told members of his Web site's forum that he opposes white supremacists joining his protests, and he wrote to the Intelligence Report "there seems to be very little we can do to keep them from piggybacking off our activism. ... [W]e are unable to really do anything about it."

He has also banned a few white supremacists from his forum. But many others have posted racist attacks on Hispanics – attacks that are left on his Web site as long as they don't directly advocate violence.

SOS forum member "Chris 2005," for instance, offered this up on July 25: "Mexicans are like pigs. They are by far the filthiest f-ing animals. I have also felt like I needed to get into a hot bathtub of water and soap and just soak until the filth comes off me after being near any of them. I hate them, I hate them, I hate them!"

Nine days later, the statement was still there.

And then there are Turner's own statements in his forum. "I am sick and tired of all the white bashing that goes on through the use of political correctness as an indoctrinating tool," he wrote on July 16.

"I am sick and tired of multiculturalism, meaning, let's celebrate every culture as long as it isn't a European/white culture." During the same exchange, Turner also wrote that "just because one believes in white separatism that does not make them a racist."

All in all, white supremacists are delighted.

Posting on the neo-Nazi Stormfront Web site forum, one person described Turner's operation as a "Trojan horse" that radical racists can use to infiltrate more mainstream political discourse.

"The tide is turning in our favor in the movement against illegal aliens," this poster wrote in March. "The grass roots sentiment against this invasion is finally making its voice heard and [at] many different levels. This is a movement every WN [white nationalist] should support and be active in. It moves in our direction even as it does not even acknowledge, or even know, that the WN movement exists. Anti-alien activism is a no-loose [sic] for WN."



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"The tide is turning in our favor in the movement against illegal aliens"

Sounds like a repeat of Germany, circa 1920.

if you act out the universe will get you.

I have much respect for my anarchist brothers & sisters, especially after this post. It was very big of you to thank IndyMedia, as well as respect their wishes. I may not be big on violence (unless provoked), but one things for sure: Whenever I see anarchists at protests/rallies I am comforted by the fact that if shit goes down & if the Minutemensos or LAPD start shit, I KNOW that the anarchists will be the FIRST ones to RUSH to my aide. I have seen this first hand. At the anti-Minutemen rally in Hollywood the anarchists rushed to protect women, often risking their own asses to save a fallen protester, anarchist or not.

I may not totally agree with anarchism, but I have the upmost respect for people who risk it all to save the few.

Thank you for always being there when the shit hits the fan!

I'm not into the whole A.N.S.W.E.R., Che Guevara shirt, Socialist thing. Definitely not supportive of any Atzlan efforts. But based on what I've seen and my interaction with the Anarchists I've met and rallied with, I'd have to give them a thumbs up. Make that two thumbs up for Anarchists in general. I don't know how many different kinds there are but the youth I've interacted with are definitely not extremists and live mostly like ordinary people. They're not blowing up Hummers or even throwing bricks through windows. Their views may not parallel mine or close but I've seen them to be rational and should be taken seriously.

Thank you for Respecting the Anarchist movement. We do our best and we train hard. Many Anarchists train in Filipino Martial arts (in Weapons) this is why most of us have no fear when faced by Pigs or Nazis, because we know we can throw down also.

If you ever change you minds or your politics/philosophy, we invite you to 'Go Black' we're always looking for a few good activists. Just talk to any of us in the next rally, vigil, or demonstration in LA. We'll be happy to answer questions. There's alot of pride in wearing the Black hoodie and Black bandana.

Also watch the Matrix and V for Vendetta this will give you a 'feel' for what we are all about.

>>> James Anarchrist "Viva las Revolucion!!!"

now if we could actually get REAL skins to stand up against white supremacists. interestingly, LA's skinhead scene is largely latino... and if this seems like a paradox to you, then i suggest you do research on the roots of skinhead culture

Kele C. Johnson, a member of the neo-nazi group known as "SOS" will be moving to Laramie, Wyoming, the place where Mathew Shepperd was killed, in about one month.

She will probably lead a happy life with all of thse skinheads there.

Are you for real? You seem fake. I cannot imagine any anarchist ever writing posts like yours. Most anarchists are into studying.

Bump!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

bump 2 stop nazis in leimert park

Heads up, all. The Klan/Nazis will be joining Ted Hayes in Leimert Park with the open intention of starting a "race war." Hayes has brought these f*ckers into the heart of Black L.A., and Hayes is responsible for the consequences.

Check out http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php/negroes-march-against-illegal-invaders-397911.html

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=50809

ted hayes is a dirty quisling!!!!!!!!

bump!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!