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We're here to stop the fascists and the Nazis

by Leslie Radford Monday, Mar. 26, 2007 at 11:14 PM
leslie@radiojustice.net

A last minute effort to rally the people against the minutemen pays off in downtown Los Angeles.

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LOS ANGELES, 25 March 2007--As marchers at the Federal Building denounced the stepped up ICE raids and deportations, another group of protestors mounted a last-minute anti-minuteman rally to counter the anti-migrant group's march up Broadway, the path of the one million-strong migrant Gran Marcha of March 25, 2006.  A group calling itself "No Name" pulled together about two hundred and fifty counterprotestors and got a sidewalk permit to follow the minutemen through the busy shopping district.  Along the way, they enlisted Sunday shoppers in their anti-minuteman chants and jeers.

The minutemen were led by Ted Hayes of the Federation for American Immigration Reform's Choose Black America, and their march was sponsored by the rabidly anti-migrant group Save Our State, whose founder and CEO also works for FAIR.  They managed to muster about as many ralliers as the counterprotestors had, after weeks of widespread promotion and requesting a permit for one thousand.  They took a single float down the street that called for reparations for African-Americans, a new political front for Save Our State but a longtime cause for Hayes.  And they brought along their familiar anti-migrant signs and U.S. flags.  Whether the predominantly Spanish-language shoppers understood the reparations message was unclear to the counterprotestors.  The SOS march was billed as a civil rights march but, like an earlier march last May 21, civil rights didn't seem to be the message.

They rounded the corner onto Spring Street at 1:30, with an escort of cop towncars and a phalanx of cops boxing them in on four sides, keeping the counterprotestors on the sidewalk on either side.  Hayes was spotted jumping out of a sergeant's car, who had apparently given him a lift.  As the minutemen crossed onto the City Hall lawn, the counterprotestors took their position across the street on the northwest corner of Spring and 1st Streets.  The cops, some with belts of tear gas canisters, lined the west side of Spring Street, as has become usual, facing the counterprotestors.  The cops nearly outnumbered the counterprotestors, and they parked twenty cop cars on 1st Street alongside a half dozen emergency vehicles.  At one point the cops closed ranks because they had arrayed themselves down the street far past the small cluster of counterprotestors on the corner.

The No Name organizer explained their presence: "We have to be here. We're the voice of conscience. We're here to stop the fascists and the Nazis."  A counterprotestor said she had been told by cops that minutemen members were part of the police's Hollywood and Wall Street stations.  The counterprotestors shouted and bullhorned at the minutemen from the sidewalk and the small rise behind it.

A few of the counterprotestors began arguing among themselves when leaders from the anti-deportation march joined them.  Some of the counterprotestors were upset that the earlier anti-deportation march, just two blocks over, hadn't joined them, but a voice called out from the back, "¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido!"  The crowd of counterprotestors took up the call, and the row was quelled.

I was walking into the minuteman rally as they were chanting "Ted Hayes! Ted Hayes! Ted Hayes!"  It seems that Save Our State has found a new personality to follow, and that Hayes has maneuvered himself into a position to take the role of charismatic leader following Turner's decision to step away from the limelight.  The next speaker called for "No more using our schools. No more using our hospitals. No more using our civil rights!"  He added, speaking of the migrants, "They're sorry, they're wasted, they're through."  He led the mostly inattentive crowd in three half-hearted rounds  of "We're mad, and we're not going to take it anymore."  Hayes jumped in and added, "We're fired up, we can't take it no more!" 

In the climax to the rally, minuteman David Hernandez announced his candidacy for mayor of Los Angeles and promptly swore himself in, reciting the oath of office.  Then, in the inaugural speech of his candidacy, he recited the history of the abuse of African-Americans in this country and supported reparations for the descendents of slaves.  He made no mention of any other group, offered no vision for city or solutions for its problems, and his only political promise was to include African Americans in any discussion of immigration, "legal or illegal."  Chelene Nightingale, rally organizer, was leading rounds of "Run, David, Run!" as I walked away.

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front line for the minutemen

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sos's reparations float

by Leslie Radford Monday, Mar. 26, 2007 at 11:14 PM
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just a few of them

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counterprotestors on the rise

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the minuteman "action"

by Leslie Radford Monday, Mar. 26, 2007 at 11:14 PM
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advocate

by V Tuesday, Mar. 27, 2007 at 6:48 AM

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do u know who i saw yesterday during the rally yesterday at the city hall it was Advocate who is a known white nationalist who posted at save our state forum about a year and a half ago and who post at the stormfront forum regularly. I bet he was happy marching with the reparations truck.

*for the new SOS members who dont know who advocate is, ask the old member who advocate is.
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by Jammer CC Tuesday, Mar. 27, 2007 at 9:40 AM

Great find! Advocate has been caught again and the Minutemen and SOS has been caught with him again.

As for new members, asking the old members won't help because obviously they're not gonna tell ya. There's a LOT they won't tell you. They just want you to obediently follow their joke of a Standard Operating Procedure(which they never bother with) and stand with a sign. When they day is done, they're done with you. Thank you, drive though.
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Who?

by nazis for target practice Tuesday, Mar. 27, 2007 at 4:03 PM

I think we all know who "us" is, Mr. Lasswell. And don't give me that crap about us="patriotic Americans." That's so stale they're smelling it in Chicago.
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Who?

by nazis for target practice Tuesday, Mar. 27, 2007 at 4:03 PM

I think we all know who "us" is, Mr. Lasswell. And don't give me that crap about us="patriotic Americans." That's so rancid they're smelling it in Chicago.
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by Jammer CC Wednesday, Mar. 28, 2007 at 12:46 PM

Did you notice any MM/SOS members interacting with Advocate? Was it another case where they freak out at counter protestors, but hardly react to the presence of a nazi-type? I know some people like OldPreach know who Advocate is, but not all of them would, especially new members.

Next time try to keep on observance on him and see who he leaves with. See if he's carpooling with anyone, especially known members of MM/SOS. If something like a handshake or a hug happens, even if it's vague and questionable, just post it anyways because they have to explain it. With nazi-types involved, they better explain or prepare for nationwide embarrassment and shame, and rightfully so.

At their Irvine rally last year, one where Advocate was rallying with them and shaking at least one of their hands(as seen on video), I went around and explained who he is. Most responded saying things like well he's an American so, so what if he's there. That sort of thing. It was like if a musclebound skinhead with no shirt or hair and nazi tatoos showed up, they would continue to deny the significance of that and come up with excuses. I didn't see anyone tell him he's not welcome(maybe because he was? it seemed to be according to the responses I got) but Eileen Garcia did claim on the SOS board to ask him to leave or something to that effect.
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SOS--Slave Owning Sh*t-heads!

by Atheist Wednesday, Mar. 28, 2007 at 3:46 PM

OMG!
WTF!
Checked out pics from the SOS site of minutemen riding on the Reparations float, and the float actually says under the big HOLOCAUST sign: "These are the people who brought slaves to America" !!!!
LMFAO!
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i love mexicans!

by dead mexicans Wednesday, Mar. 28, 2007 at 6:05 PM

bush Regime and Illegals - Arm In Arm They Pulled A Coup
   
On Me And You...

Mark Lowry


March 3, 2007

The Bushite Coup is suspending constitutional freedoms so they can continue with world wide wars, expand economic colonialism and destroy American national sovereignty to be replaced by one world corporate elite government. Illegal alien invaders are helping them destroy America.

"Nothing happens that is not planned in government" Franklin Delano Roosevelt. The American and Mexican governments have colluded with the wealthy elite to use illegals as a pawn in a revolutionary coup to destroy American democracy, the last bastion of freedom in the world that stands in the way of their world conquest. International globalists are able to manipulate illegals because their stupidity and greed makes it easy to be subjugated and used as a pawn to help overthrow the American Government.

Mass population migration is not caused by economics, it is caused by design. It has nothing to do with race or racial make up of migrants. It is purposely designed to attract uneducated populations with no skills to undermine labor markets regardless of their race. The world population movement is greater than it has been in history not because of economics but because Globalists want to destabilize nation states to create one world corporate government.

Ignorant illegal alien invader racists are perfect for spreading propaganda necessary to get others to promote and join corporatist elite takeover of nation states. Keep thinking it is an issue of “human rights” where you demand all benefits of citizenship without being interested in being a citizen. Keep screaming about past injustices and Aztlan, Reconquista. That helps divide the nation into warring camps and makes it easier to conquer all of us. “A house divided against itself can not stand.” Abraham Lincoln. The United States is the only country standing between them and one world government.

Mexicans are pawns of choice used by corporate elite to end democracy in North America and then the world. The same thing has occurred in the European Union with Turk Muslims and African populations. Germany France, England and other nations liberalized comprehensive immigration programs that granted citizenship status to poor uneducated foreign populations. Corrupt American elected official traitors are now attempting to do the same.

Open borders, one world corporate government propaganda defines motivation for mass migration as “people moving for better economic opportunity.” That is patently not true. Most are moving into ghettos with few job opportunities. There are little or no chances for advancement as native populations resist planned invasions and overcrowding doesn’t provide enough jobs to sustain the populations.

If illegal alien invaders took time to compare cost of living indexes of countries of origin with countries of destination it would become obvious differences in wages they think they can earn do not offset higher costs of living. The only way illegal immigrants can survive in the United States or Europe is with government aid in one form or another.

Higher taxes on the native populations are required to support the illegal alien invaders. Job losses to over seas cheaper labor markets and higher taxes mean a lack of job opportunity for all of us. That is why Muslims are rioting in France, and Turks in Germany have figured out they can not afford to live there and pay taxes as citizens. They can only make a fair living as illegal aliens because they don’t pay the same taxes as citizens and get government benefits.

Turks are now complaining legalization of illegal aliens in Germany caused the flow of money back to Turkey to dry up. Turkey is outraged because they not only lost their work force but they have no economic benefit from wages sent back to Turkey.

No developed country with net job losses in major industries has ability to absorb a new dependent uneducated migrant population. The U.S. health system is ranked 37th in the world by the World Health organization. We work more hours per week and are more productive than any other nation in the world. Our education systems rank behind other developed countries.

There is more personal debt than since the great depression, social security is about bust and will be as soon as the Mexican social security totalization agreement is in place, bankruptcies in the U.S. are at all time highs as are bank profits, and credit interest rates. New home construction is dropping. Over 3.5 million manufacturing jobs have been lost. American jobs in automobile, high tech, computer, durable goods, soft goods and manufacturing are disappearing. Family farms were taken over by international agribusinesses that get government subsidies. Families all over America have been displaced in attempts to find work or move away from higher city taxes worsened by planned illegal alien invasion and Afghanistan, Iraq and Iranian wars.

There is no intent to improve quality of life for world working populations. The goal is to bring all workers down to the same low level. The lowest wages and worst working conditions is the labor standard designed in one world corporate government. American and world futures are ones of desperation for all workers. You the illegal alien invader in America are helping achieve that goal and are a critical element needed for the success of the plan.

America has the highest trade deficit in its history. Value of the dollar is plummeting. Fears of inflation with no help from the Federal Reserve are driving investors to gold silver and other commodities. And dumb asses like you the illegal alien invaders believe the big lie that America needs more workers. Those illegal alien invaders who know better apparently come to America out of hatred for Americans and for greed.

Measures of economic success are not defined by the amount of individual wealth of the elite averaged over the low income of the poor. It is defined by the number of citizens living in poverty. America. is ranked second only to Mexico in child poverty. Numbers of those in deep poverty in the United States are growing with no prospect for changing their plight.

Countries with low poverty rates generally have lower average income rates because taxes are more equitably applied based on total wealth and contribution to the society. The United States devalues labor costs with higher proportionate taxes and places a greater emphasis on value of capital or the wealthy. They can report there is great prosperity when 40% of the nation is living in or near poverty.

Greedy ignorant illegal alien invaders are participants in creating a volatile situation that is about to explode. Influx of illegal alien invaders promoted by seditionist American and Mexican corporate elite governments is throwing gasoline on a simmering fire of outrage and disgust with the way government is ignoring will of the American Citizens. John F. Kennedy said: If you fail to permit peaceful revolution change you are doomed to violent revolution.

The Bushite Coup has pushed Americans about as far as they are going to be pushed and it is not wise to be between Americans stripped of their liberty and those who have stolen their freedom. Illegal aliens are making an error of judgment when they align with corrupt American elected officials and make demands for amnesty when none is available for American citizens.




Americans will not take anymore injustices and wrongs imposed on them. “Find out just what the people will submit to and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.” -Frederick Douglas, Civil Rights Activist, 1857

America has no endurance for more illegal alien invasion nor does it have any patience for those who have promoted it, participated in it and permitted it to occur. The time is close for things to change and change drastically they will. We will not accept rule by the elite in this country any longer. America is a country governed with consent of the governed not the wealthy.

This grave situation is a stack of dry kindling ready to burst into roaring flames with the smallest spark. We all need pray that spark will not be struck, but it appears there is little chance it won’t be. Combination of ignorance and greed of illegal alien invaders and wealthy elite seems intent on ignoring strength of American people and their desire to remain free. Americans will not tolerate this authoritarian government.

"The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it comes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism - ownership of government by an individual, by a group.” Franklin D. Roosevelt

If you, the illegal alien invader, think American politicians give a damn about illegal alien invaders you are out of your mind. If they made more money by dropping American wages and increasing unemployment after they eliminated most American welfare, how long do you think they are going to take care of illegal alien invaders? American poor people are poor for a reason, and it sure as hell isn't because they are lazy.

If we are going down as a nation it will be a lot quicker if they have groups in the country already trained and educated to hate each other. Mexicans are a good patsy for that purpose. If radical illegal alien invaders are any indication of the average invader, they are pretty stupid and will easily believe the propaganda. Try to figure out why they are not stopping people from crossing the open borders when they have capability to do so at any time. Ignorance is a correctable condition. Stupidity is a terminal disease in the economic new world order.

• All propaganda has to be popular and has to adapt its spiritual level to the perception of the least intelligent of those towards whom it intends to direct itself.”-Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf ("My Struggle"), Vol. I

If everything goes as the Bushite Coup revolutionaries want we American Citizens will see you in hell. That is what America will become. American citizens will succeed in stopping defeat of our country by illegal alien invasion and population politics whatever the costs and whatever is demanded to see it accomplished. Be wise and be forewarned, don’t be in the middle of the conflict. Illegal Alien Invaders, stand clear of the storm that is upon this nation. Get out while there is still opportunity, you have bled this country for all the benefits you can. We have neared the limit of our patience.

• Dwight D. Eisenhower: Here in America we are descended in spirit from revolutionaries and rebels -- men and women who dare to dissent from accepted doctrine.

• Thomas Jefferson Patriotism: God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ... And what country can preserve its liberties, if it's rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.

Bushite Coup Conspirators must know they are playing a dangerous game with valued freedoms of Americans. Americans have fought and died for this country and will hardly stand by and let it be taken from them with lies and promises of future prosperity. America knows the lie and it is best for all to rectify egregious assault on American democracy and freedoms while there is still time to accomplish correction peacefully. There is no greed worthy of the hell we are about to experience if this country finally gets to the point that it will take not one more injustice, not one more lie and not one more secret treaty designed to destroy America. Elected officials do your job and see compliance with the rule of law equally for all.

I close again with those immortal words of Patrick Henry one of America’s greatest patriots.

• Patrick Henry: "I shall speak forth my sentiments freely, and without reserve. This is no time for ceremony. The question before the House is one of awful moment to this country. For my own part, I consider it as nothing less than a question of freedom or slavery; and in proportion to the magnitude of the subject ought to be the freedom of the debate. It is only in this way that we can hope to arrive at truth, and fulfil the great responsibility which we hold to God and our country. Should I keep back my opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offence, I should consider myself as guilty of treason towards my country, and of an act of disloyalty toward the majesty of heaven, which I revere above all earthly kings. I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided; and that is the lamp of experience. I know of no way of judging of the future but by the past.

Sir, we have done everything that could be done, to avert the storm which is now coming on. We have petitioned; we have remonstrated; we have supplicated; we have prostrated ourselves before the throne, and have implored its interposition to arrest the tyrannical hands of the ministry and Parliament. Our petitions have been slighted; our remonstrances have produced additional violence and insult; our supplications have been disregarded; and we have been spurned, with contempt, from the foot of the throne. In vain, after these things, may we indulge the fond hope of peace and reconciliation.

There is no longer any room for hope. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace?but there is no peace. The war is actually begun!

Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"

Please elected officials of America stop the madness and enforce laws of the land. Stop the Bushite Coup before it is too late for all of us.
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  Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:01 am    Post subject: it goes way back    
reports i am getting are that the hispanics have been sneaking into many american cities under many different guises, all aided by bushco and his allies, given welfare and free medical, and having babies like there is no tomorrow.

jorge bush first energy company -- arbusto -- means bush in spanish

jeb married to hispanic, both political bush boys speak fluent spanish

florida and texas two largest cocaine importing states for a long time now

bush - british - cia - zionazi - vatican world overthrow scenario becoming very clear now

this too is interesting:


Bush is planning on exile in Paraguay


Original Publisher: Prensa Latina
suncion, Oct 18 (Prensa Latina) The land grab project of US President George W. Bush in Chaco, Paraguay, has generated considerable discomfort both politically and environmentally.

Full Article:

http://www.plenglish.com/article.asp?ID=%7B2DA7BAE4-061B-49B6-983F-3D69A4396E37%7D)&language=EN





Bush Paraguay Land Grab Incites Unease


Asuncion, Oct 18 (Prensa Latina) The land grab project of US President George W. Bush in Chaco, Paraguay, has generated considerable discomfort both politically and environmentally.

The news circulating the continent about plans to buy 98,840 acres of land in Chaco, Paraguay, near the Triple Frontier (Bolivia, Brazil, Paraguay) is the talk of the town in these countries.


Although official sources have not confirmed the information that is already public, the land is reportedly located in Paso de Patria, near Bolivian gas reserves and the Guarani indigenous water region, within the Triple Border.


Alto Paraguay Gov. Erasmo Rodriguez Acosta revealed he heard that part of the land purchase consists of an ecological reserve (Fundacion Patria), with which Bush is affiliated.


In its interview with Rodriguez Acosta, neike.com.py reported that he does not have documentation of this affiliation and it could not communicate either with the foundation or with the National Rural Development and Land Institute, in charge of these state lands.


Concern increased last week with the arrival of Bush" daughter, Jenna, and a source from the Physical Planning Department saying that most of the Chaco region belongs to private companies.


Luis D"Elia, Argentina´s undersecretary for Land for Social Habitat, says the matter raises regional concern because it threatens local natural resources.


He termed it “surprising” that the Bush family is trying to settle a few short miles from the US Mariscal Estigarribia Military Base.


Argentinean Adolfo Perez Esquivel warned that the real war will be fought not for oil, but for water, and recalled that Acuifero Guaraní is one of the largest underground water reserves in South America, running beneath Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay and Uruguay (larger than Texas and California together).


“The southern US states are already struggling with water shortages," asserted the 1980 Nobel Peace Prizewinner.


Orlando Castillo, Paraguay Peace and Justice Service member, recalled the US military buildup in Chaco under a bilateral agreement.
 
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reparations

by Fredric L. Rice Thursday, Mar. 29, 2007 at 11:27 AM
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Love it. Hayes is fucking up the SOSMM scumbag's message of hate with his own, tossing mud into the waters. Love it.
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by Jammer CC Thursday, Mar. 29, 2007 at 6:49 PM

Looks like the best someone could do is politely ask me to die :-P

Figures

As for stopping them, well so what if they marched. It was all for nothing. They won't get any benefit from it. The march did nothing for them.
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by Jammer CC Thursday, Mar. 29, 2007 at 9:15 PM

I'm not concerned about any effect they would have on the country. I'm sure the US won't be headed towards being conservative fundamental Christian like many of you would want it to be. My concern is the hostility the Minutemen do manage to bring to the streets. Things are generally fine until they show up.
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Ralph's stops the nazis!

by BaBaBooey! Sunday, Apr. 01, 2007 at 11:42 AM

i wish i could've seen the look on the face of that horse-toothed jackass joe turner...

http://saveourstate.org/vforums/showthread.php?t=23389
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Same 'Ol Rhetoric

by TruthBTold Monday, Apr. 02, 2007 at 2:48 PM

Don't you Minutemen/SOS'ers have a Home Depot to stand out in front of? I thought you guys hate IndyMedia? For people who talk so much crap about this site, you sure want to comment here alot!!
I find it amusing that we here @ IndyMedia practice Free Speech, & let the 'oppossition' practice it here as well, YET over at the SOS forum, you wont let us comment or engage in debate!
----You are obviously afraid of something. Stop acting like such HYPOCRIT's already!
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How Cargill, ADM, Monsanto invaded Mexico's maize

by NO MAS to SOS CIA-ops scapegoating Mexicans!! Wednesday, Apr. 04, 2007 at 2:35 PM

Mark Lowry wrote;

"Family farms were taken over by international agribusinesses that get government subsidies. Families all over America have been displaced in attempts to find work or move away from higher city taxes worsened by planned illegal alien invasion and Afghanistan, Iraq and Iranian wars."

This statement needs to be expanded and elaborated. Instead of namecalling and scapegoating of Mexican immigrants, how about actually documenting the abuses suffered by the undocumented immigrant farm workers trapped in USA by corporate agribusiness cycles of debt slavery resulting from landlessness and poverty??

Of course the reasons for undocumented poverty induced immigration are economic at their core, yet not one word from Mark Lowry about NAFTA/WTO free trade agreements on causing the poverty induced migrations to begin with..

The neoliberal perspective of pro-immigration uber alles is responding to your insults against the Mexican immigrants who are not at fault for their landless status (instead blame Mexican Pres. Felipe 'Lapdog Jr.' Calderon for supporting NAFTA, PPP, WTO, etc..). Round and round we go, never hearing the truth, only more name calling and insults..

Reparations for slavery of African-americans is certainly needed, and the corporations who profited from this slavery need to pay their debts for unpaid labor..

On this same level, time for reparations for land AND unjust coerced labor stolen from indigenous peoples on both sides of the US/MEX border is also at hand..

Seriously, even if people oppose undocumented immigration into the US, the US/MEX border fence is a REALLY DUMB idea and that won't work anyway. What the US/MEX border fence will accomplish is escalating genocide against indigenous nations (ie., Tohono O'odham) living on both sides of the border AND increasing risks of extinction for endangered migratory Sonoran pronghorn antelopes. Undocumented immigrants and coyotes will remain mobile and continue to enter the US through other means. Believe that. Learn to solve problems at their cause, not their symptoms. The US/MEX border wall is another futile band-aid measure by the GW bush regime in attempts to 'fix' the problems created by corporate domination and poverty induced migrations..

People who have stepped away from the symptom based conflict centered around undocumented immigration have identified several corporate culprits directly responsible for the poverty and landlessness that fuels undocumented immigrations and resulting debt slavery in the US on agri-corporate plantations..

Then let's again return to the joyful crop diversity of the campesino garden in south central la and the eagerness by developer corporation Horowitz and the LA Sheriffs to destroy this lovely gardenspace in a day..

At least the south central farm was ecologically sustainable and supportive of campesino farmworkers. This is a far cry from the monoculture agribusiness that exposes immigrant farmworkers to toxic pesticides on the job daily..

"At the core of urban farming is the desire to put the culture back into agriculture. It's an effort that seeks to place communities at the center of our food system."

POR FAVOR read on @;
http://www.southcentralfarmers.com/index.php

Compare this to the multitude of monoculture agribusiness plantations in the Imperial Valley and their pesticide spraying that results in undocumented immigrants experiencing higher rates of cancer, birth defects, etc..

In Oaxaca and other states of Mexico negatively effected by WTO/NAFTA policy of US corporations dumping subsidized corn onto the market and driving farmers off their lands, pesticide and herbicide were avoided and biodiversity was the preffered choice prior to the flooding of GMO corn from biotech giants Cargill, ADM, Monsanto, etc..

This article will remain active on laimc comments until both "sides" of the immigration 'debate' can demonstrate their understanding of the source problems of poverty based immigrations and the direct correlation with US corporate biotech takeover of Mexico's maize farmers..

"Barrera and his ADM partners and their transnational associates at Cargill-Consolidated Mexico and Mimsa-Corn Products now control the Mexican maize market. It is that monopoly, which has caused the current panic, considers Luis Hernandez Navarro, op-ed editor at La Jornada, the national left daily, and a writer intimately familiar with agricultural issues. When ex-president Ernesto Zedillo (1994-2000) closed down CONASUPO, the state grain distribution system in 1997, the transnationals moved in and have taken control, says Hernandez. "When Mexican corn is in danger so is Mexico" he cautions, echoing the old refrain "no hay pais sin maiz" - there is no country without corn.

Hernandez and other veteran observers of the Mexican "campo" strongly suspect that the current corn crisis is being manipulated to end the moratorium on planting transgenic corn in Mexico. "The transnationals want to end the moratorium and are using this made-up crisis to pressure the SAGARPA (Agricultural Secretariat) to do away with it" figures investigator Antonio Serratos at the prestigious College of Mexico think tank. "It is part of their strategy for taking control of the entire agricultural sector."

As if to confirm Serratos' hunch, Big Agro is already petitioning the Biosecurity Commission to permit widespread planting in 2007. "Bio-tech is the only solution to growing more corn and keeping the tortilla affordable" advises Jaime Yesaki, director of the National Agriculture and Livestock Council or C.N.A, the principal agri-business federation in the country."

!!POR FAVOR read on @;
http://www.counterpunch.org/ross02142007.html

Here they all come from Mexico and beyond, dispossessed of their land by NAFTA free trade agreements and bound for continuous debt slavery in the agriplantations of the US. Mandatory deportations without healthcare benefits for any undocumented farmworkers injured by toxic petrochemical pesticide exposure. At least the neoliberals can have their cheap tacos at Taco Bell, eh amigo??


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CIA ops? haha

by mike almeida Saturday, Apr. 14, 2007 at 12:39 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/18/weekinreview/18uchitelle.html?ex=1329454800&en=a25f2bf8e6431b9c&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

When Nafta finally became a reality, on Jan. 1, 1994, American investment flooded into Mexico, mostly to finance factories that manufacture automobiles, appliances, TV sets, apparel and the like. The expectation was that the Mexican government would do its part by investing billions of dollars in roads, schooling, sanitation, housing and other needs to accommodate the new factories as they spread through the country.

It was more than an expectation. Many Mexican officials in the government of President Carlos Salinas de Gortari assured the Clinton administration that the investment would take place, and believed it themselves, said Gary Hufbauer, a senior fellow at the Peter G. Peterson Institute for International Economics in Washington who campaigned for Nafta in the early 1990s.

Absent that investment, foreign factories congregated in the north, within 300 miles of the American border, where some infrastructure already existed. “Monterrey is quite good,” Mr. Hufbauer said, “but in a lot of other cities the infrastructure is terrible, not even enough running water or electricity in poor neighborhoods. People get temporary jobs, but that is all.”

Meanwhile, Mexican manufacturers, once protected by tariffs on a host of products, were driven out of business as less expensive, higher quality merchandise flowed into the country. Later, China, with its even-cheaper labor, added to the pressure, luring away manufacturers and jobs.
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