It is easy to just set up a macro or a spam bot to continuously spam the forum with religious nonsense. It's pointless to even acknowledge this spam bot or return any responses as you are just wating your energy.

I only bring this up because I've noticed this forum is susceptible to spam bots. I have seen some bots advertising gambling strategies and online casino garbage which was probably just test runs for this moron.

When he starts his crap just do what I do, leave the forum and come back a few hours later, or the next day. This person is just trying to annoy everyone as a small child wants attention. Starve him from it by ignoring him.

Let him eat cake.

Are you really interested in a discusssion of who is a Jew and what is a Zionist, or is this just an exercize in polemics for you?

If you are, Dennis Prager has written some excellent articles:

"So many types of Jews, so little clarity"

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0306/prager031406.php3



"Separate anti-Zionism from anti-Semitism?"

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0506/prager053006.php3

by definition SOS/MMP are trolls in this site

"Are you really interested in a discusssion of who is a Jew and what is a Zionist, or is this just an exercize in polemics for you?"

No, I'm not really interested in that. As I have repeatedly stated, I couldn't care less about the Jews, Zionism, or the quagmire that is Israel. I am not Jewish, nor do I currently know any Jewish people. Jewish problems have nothing to do with me or my life whatsoever.

But there are literally hundreds of threads in this forum devoted to Jews and Israel. This topic of conversation dominates this website.

When I came here I was just channel surfing. And I'm really about to change the channel.

Does the Spam-bot fill threads with Bible-spam that DON"T have anything to do with the Israeli/Palestinian conflict?

Ryan cyclically intones

"As I have repeatedly stated, I couldn't care less about the Jews, Zionism, or the quagmire that is Israel. I am not Jewish, nor do I currently know any Jewish people. Jewish problems have nothing to do with me or my life whatsoever. "

which I find increasingly hard to believe each time he makes this bunch of proclamations.

It's even harder to believe he's about to leave the site. He's just too big an Israel basher to forgo what he considers awesome oppotunities constantly presenting themselves to him to mentally abuse Zionist contributors and bash Israel in the process. Any astute reader has noticed that this man is a sadist. He finds fertile ground to express his sadist impulses against Zionists on this site.

One thing is for certain: when he states he'll treat anyone with respect, he's merely trying to entrap them. Don't let your guard down.

"Does the Spam-bot fill threads with Bible-spam that DON"T have anything to do with the Israeli/Palestinian conflict?"

It could fill it with anything it was set up to fill it with. Bible verses, casino spam, whatever. It's not that hard to do with Macro Express. It's just some idiot that takes pleasure in detracting from open coversations, and he finds it amusing when you indulge him. It requires zero energy on his part to click "start macro". But it requires effort from you to respond to his spam bot.

"I don't but it"

by Scapegoated Jew Friday, Jun. 16, 2006 at 7:04 AM

And I'm supposed to care that you don't buy it because _______.

"It's even harder to believe he's about to leave the site. He's just too big an Israel basher to forgo what he considers awesome oppotunities constantly presenting themselves to him to mentally abuse Zionist contributors and bash Israel in the process. Any astute reader has noticed that this man is a sadist. He finds fertile ground to express his sadist impulses against Zionists on this site."

What part of "I could not care less about Israel" do you not understand? I've expressed my opinions on what is going on over there, and quite frankly I am done doing so. At this point I'm only repeating myself. The Israel dilemma doesn't consume my life like it does yours. I am a multi-faceted person. I like to discuss ~many~ things.

You SJ, on the other hand, are a one trick pony. Your life seems to be Israel, Israel, Israel. It's stale and boring, and quite frankly you need to get a life. Unless you are getting paid to yammer on about Israel day after day, you are really wasting your time. You're not fooling anyone.

Most Americans really really really do not care about Israel. The best you are going to be able to get out of apathetic Americans is their support for Israel simply to spite Arabs. Because in general, they blame the muslims for 9-11.

Funny thing, yesterday I was talking to one of my neighbors and the subject of the war in Iraq came up. Now I never talk politics in real life, because people just get too worked up. But he asked me if I support the war effort and I said no. Too much money has been spent and too many lives have been lost, and for what? What is the payoff? I said I just don't get it.

His response was that tired old "Well you'd rather be fighting them over there than over here, wouldn't you?"

I just shrugged my shoulders at that point, because I knew this guy is lost and nothing I could say would ever get through to him.

SJ, I'm just shrugging my shoulders at you and Becky and Tia now. That's all thats left at this point. Just to shrug my shoulders and walk away.

"One thing is for certain: when he states he'll treat anyone with respect, he's merely trying to entrap them. Don't let your guard down. "

I believe I have been completely respectful to you since I said I would be. Additionally, I have given you my honest opinions on the subject that dominates your life.

I, too, am a "multi-faceted person". I find plenty of time for things unrelated to the Arab-Israeli conflicts, and I could care much less if you don't believe that. I also don't care a whit what you think I'm accomplishing.

Your family _may_ have been baptised to Christianity before you were born -- I dunno. If this is so, I have no idea whether you've abandoned Christianity for the Cherokee religion. Regardless, Christianity is predicated on a plethora of lies and I've shown you with blow-by-blow evidence that the claim that Jesus Christ was executed by Jews is one of those lies.

Me, I'll never change my religion. I can settle for existing and thriving on my own without convincing even one Western anti-Zionist to ditch their misconceptions. What you choose to feel about Israel and the Jews is of no consequence to me. I don't depend on your good will as a member of the dominant US culture because I don't reside in the US. At the same time I thank the US administrations for the foreign aid being extended to Israel. But I also heap scorn on the American anti-Zionists who're perfectly willing for their tax dollars to flow to promote theocracies operating in a host of anti-progress manners.

I am also wearying of this game...part is the incessant spamming and trolling, but part is also the lack of civility.

My feeling about such matters is that the mass of middle American could care less about anything that doesn't directly affect them. As long as their ability to self gratify and consume remains intact, they are content.

So strangely enough, I have more respect for people on either side of the bell curve- the ones I strongly agree with, as well as the one I strongly disagree with, because at least we are the ones who are thinking , caring and and are involved with the human condition. I feel I have more in common with the activists on either side of the wire, because at least they care. That distinguishes them from the mass of Americans.

But hell, what do I know? .

"LA-IMC isn't my life's sum total"

by Scapegoated Jew Friday, Jun. 16, 2006 at 8:07 AM

From what I've seen it is.

"I, too, am a "multi-faceted person". I find plenty of time for things unrelated to the Arab-Israeli conflicts, and I could care much less if you don't believe that. I also don't care a whit what you think I'm accomplishing."

Good for you. But all I've seen from you is the same old parroting for the last two weeks. Israel, Israel, ~gawk~ ISRAEL!

Please tell me something about you that doesn't relate to your Jewishness. Do you like football? Do you fish? What do you think about those farmers out in LA that got evicted? Hell, I do not care at this point, I am willing to discuss anything ~other~ than Israel.

"Your family _may_ have been baptised to Christianity before you were born -- I dunno. If this is so, I have no idea whether you've abandoned Christianity for the Cherokee religion."

Religion is useless to mean. I am a secular humanist.

"Regardless, Christianity is predicated on a plethora of lies and I've shown you with blow-by-blow evidence that the claim that Jesus Christ was executed by Jews is one of those lies."

Well good for you. We all have to have a hobby I suppose. Yours apparently is attempting to tear down one of the most compelling religions of human history. That is, when you're not parotting Zionist propaganda. Good luck in your campaign to destroy Christianity, you are going to need it.

"Me, I'll never change my religion. I can settle for existing and thriving on my own without convincing even one Western anti-Zionist to ditch their misconceptions. What you choose to feel about Israel and the Jews is of no consequence to me. I don't depend on your good will as a member of the dominant US culture because I don't reside in the US. At the same time I thank the US administrations for the foreign aid being extended to Israel. But I also heap scorn on the American anti-Zionists who're perfectly willing for their tax dollars to flow to promote theocracies operating in a host of anti-progress manners."

Yammer yammer yammer. ~yawn~ I am so bored with you SJ. REALLY. I am bored. Bored bored bored.

"I am also wearying of this game...part is the incessant spamming and trolling, but part is also the lack of civility."

Tia, at least you make an honest effort to avoid outright trolling and are decent to correspond with when you are not in your Israel-infomercial mode. I appreciate and respect you for that.

"My feeling about such matters is that the mass of middle American could care less about anything that doesn't directly affect them. As long as their ability to self gratify and consume remains intact, they are content.

So strangely enough, I have more respect for people on either side of the bell curve- the ones I strongly agree with, as well as the one I strongly disagree with, because at least we are the ones who are thinking , caring and and are involved with the human condition. I feel I have more in common with the activists on either side of the wire, because at least they care. That distinguishes them from the mass of Americans.

But hell, what do I know?"

Well, I have respect for everyone. People are people, all different with different opinions and interests. Some like politics and world events, some like video poker, and some like TV reality shows. Who is to say what we should all share a common interested in?

Let's face it, the world has always been a runaway train on a one-way track to where ever it is going, and there is little any of us can do to change it. Better to accept it and to flow with it than to try to struggle against it. If you want power then sure, organize organize organize. But if you want freedom then just accept the fact that you are in control of everything, and there is little the governments of the world or anyone can do to stop you. Find your peace.

"Please tell me something about you that doesn't relate to your Jewishness. Do you like football? Do you fish? What do you think about those farmers out in LA that got evicted? Hell, I do not care at this point, I am willing to discuss anything ~other~ than Israel. "

Frankly, a person like you doesn't deserve to have me share my personal likes or my positions on internal US affairs with you.



- Your family _may_ have been baptised to Christianity before you were born -- I dunno. If this is so, I have no idea whether you've abandoned Christianity for the Cherokee religion.

"Religion is useless to mean. I am a secular humanist. "

I take this to mean you are Christian and not Cherokee in religion. Quelle surprise.So this seems to answer SY's questions -- you've probably never activelly participated in tribal religious ceremonies and do not know the tribal language.

- Regardless, Christianity is predicated on a plethora of lies and I've shown you with blow-by-blow evidence that the claim that Jesus Christ was executed by Jews is one of those lies.

"Well good for you. We all have to have a hobby I suppose. Yours apparently is attempting to tear down one of the most compelling religions of human history. "

Believe it or not, I assure you I don't have a Christianity bashing agenda.

But when you insisted that the Jews of early AD times "massacred" [sic] your Jesus, someone had to set the record straight, as this is a widespread lie that too many naive and uncritically thinking (about religion) people -- like you -- have bought into. You even explicitly asked me to clarify who else "massacred" him, so I picked up the gauntlet.

Another hilarious claim you're making now is referring to Christianity as one of the world's most compelling religions... Whew! This is hysterically hilarious!! Well, if you're a chronic idiot or fool who never bothers to check the arguments contained in the NT and Church doctrine and are just willing to uncritically accept anything these people spouted, I suppose Christianity is the most compelling religion in existence. You must have been educated in Sunday school or some other Christian institution, or raised by religious parents to have bought into such crap. But you needn't worry, because you've got throngs of uncritically thinking individuals afflicted with the herd mentality to keep you company. What a laugh.

Look, I'm far from accepting all the claims embedded in Judaism and am thoroughly secular. But I can only laugh myself to a coma at the sight of a person arguing with a straight face that Christianity is one of the most compelling religions. Someone help me up to a chair...

"I take this to mean you are Christian and not Cherokee in religion."

No. It means I am a Secular Humanist. If you don't know what a Secular Humanist is then you should look it up, instead of just guessing and looking foolish.

The rest of your screed is a non sequitur in light of that fact.

LB: Let's face it, the world has always been a runaway train on a one-way track to where ever it is going, and there is little any of us can do to change it. Better to accept it and to flow with it than to try to struggle against it.

Tia: Do you really believe this? Its very defeatist.

Ok, its a booksticker sentiment , but I'll repeat it anyway....

"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

Margaret Mead.

I do "direct action" in the Bay area. No details necessary. I have seen a tangible result from my work. Its not just mental masturbation- I can see a difference.

L.B.If you want power then sure, organize organize organize.

Tia: Its not for power. Its for change. I am not interested in power. I don't want to be sitting on a committee making budgeting decisons. I want to be the boots on the ground. The biggest obstacle to change isn't those who disagree with me. Its those who just....don't ....care....Its those who think if they are good and sit quietly and do their work and mind their business, that they will be safe and warm and comfortable.



L.B: But if you want freedom then just accept the fact that you are in control of everything, and there is little the governments of the world or anyone can do to stop you. Find your peace.

Tia: Find your peace. Easier said than done.

Look at what happened in South dakota. The powers that be banned abortion. The extremely brave head of the Oglala declared, as a sovereign nation, that her tribe would continue providing these services to women throughout the state that need them. The powers that be arranged to get rid of her. Now the people of South Dakota have joined together and are signing a referendum to take this issue directly to the voters. It can be done. Change can happen, but only if people care enough to make it happen.

Don't give up so easily, Ryan.

- I take this to mean you are Christian and not Cherokee in religion."

"No. It means I am a Secular Humanist. "

OK. You weren't born nor was a Secular Humanist throughout childhood. You're now a Secular Humanist. Fair enough.



"The rest of your screed is a non sequitur in light of that fact [that I mocked his claim that Christianity is one of the most compelling religions in history while not knowing he's presently a Secular Humanist]."

Yup. A fool's consolation.

We are all 3 dimensional people. Although, personally, I am whats called Modern Orthodox, I am often in religious dialogue with Christians, Moslems, and Sikhs. So while there ae theological differences, we ae able to communicate on common areas of thought.

And, fishing? Salt water deep sea, salmon or albacore tuna, but fresh water for trout if we're camping in the mountains.

"Tia: Do you really believe this? Its very defeatist."

Not defeatist in the slightest. It's freedom. You should read "How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World" by the late Harry Browne. In this book he describes what he calls cognitive "Traps" that prevent people from living life the way they want to live it (which is what freedom is ~ the opportunity to live life the way you want to). People like yourselve perceive that there are just so many obstacles to their freedom that they spend their lives in frustration and despair raling against all of these perceived obstructions.

Specifically, you are exhibiting characteristics of the "Group" and the "Identity" Traps.

"Tia: Its not for power. Its for change. I am not interested in power. I don't want to be sitting on a committee making budgeting decisons. I want to be the boots on the ground. The biggest obstacle to change isn't those who disagree with me. Its those who just....don't ....care....Its those who think if they are good and sit quietly and do their work and mind their business, that they will be safe and warm and comfortable."

You are enslaved to the notion that ignorant, uninformed, apathetic people stand between you and "social change". And you want "social change" because you don't like things the way they are now. You are unhappy. And you think that social change will bring you happiness, which in turn will bring you closer to the freedom of which seek. Am I right?

The problem is that those people you perceive to be standing between you and your happiness are not the problem.

The problem is you. Specifically, the problem is how you perceive your own unhappiness, and how you blame others for it. You are not selfish enough. You need to learn to be more selfish like the rest of us. You need to learn to find a personal solution to your own problems. Else I fear you are in for a life of bitter frustration.

"Tia: Find your peace. Easier said than done."

It can be done. It's just a matter of shifting your paradigms a bit. Breaking those mental traps that keep you enslaved to the "system", the "government", the "corporations", the "unenlightend masses", etc. etc.

Your own happiness, and hence your own personal freedom, is contingent only upon you and what you are willing to do to achieve it.

"Don't give up so easily, Ryan. "

I haven't given up. I'm free. No one choses for me my destiny and no one stands in my way. I do what I want, when I want. If something comes between me and my freedom, I find ways around it. I'm happy.

"OK. You weren't born nor was a Secular Humanist throughout childhood. You're now a Secular Humanist. Fair enough."

I wasn't born a Christian either. If you know anything about Christianity you know that in order to be one you must accept that Jesus Christ is the son of God. I have never accepted that. Therefore I have never been a Christian and am not now.

Nor have I accepted that the great Spirit Wind is God, as my ancestors believed.

I was however exposed to the teachings of the Holy Bible as a child. It was very entertaining and useful in my determination that I am a secular humanist.

As an aside, I had an epiphany a few weeks ago which has led me to the flat rejection of Christianity.

You see, the Christians believe that God is omnipotent and, according to Revelations, Satan will be bound, have his head crushed, and will be cast into the lake of fire for all eternity. Eventually.

These imply that God knows (and knew!) before creating the universe all of this was going to happen, and that he would win in the end.

Now what God would set out on a path, of which he could clearly see the end of, a game that he has always known that he would win, without anything at stake? What could posibly be the purpose in that?

Ask a Christian that and they will tell you they can't know the mind of God, and further, it's blasphemous to even question.

But the answer has to be that no God would set out on such a path because it's pointless. Which means either there has to be something very critical at stake for the Christian God (evil could win), or else Christianity is false.

Why are the Israelites God's chosen people?

God does not play favorites among His people, however, the Bible does tell us that God's chosen people are the Jewish race because they were the ONLY ones to obey Him in lieu of other gods.

Deuteronomy 7:6 says, "For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession." This does not mean they are automatically "saved" and will go to Heaven. In order to assurance of eternal life in heaven, one must believe in God's Son, Jesus. Because of God's Promise to redeem the Jews in the end times, Israel will turn to her Messiah and be saved. So, in the meantime, any believers in Jesus are "grafted in" and may partake of the Tree of Life.

What are the factors that were involved in God's selection of Israel?



His instructions to mankind, as a whole, had been challenged by a united rebellion of the people against Him at Babel (Genesis 11:1-9), and He then forcibly confounded their languages and divided them into distinct nations.



His promise of a coming Redeemer to reconcile a lost world to Himself required that God should become man some day and He would thus have to be born into a particular nation and people.

Such a nation would have to be prepared, both by divine revelation and national experience, to be the nation through which the Savior would come.



All of the nations formed as a result of the judgment at Babel were already in rebellion against God and unsuitable for this purpose.



God, therefore, chose one man, Abraham, to establish a new nation through which "all families of the earth would be blessed."

Not only are the people of Israel special and God's chosen people, but the land is also special. In Deuteronomy 11:12, we read, "It is a land the LORD your God cares for; the eyes of the LORD your God are continually on it from the beginning of the year to its end." God is working out Israel's salvation from the time of the Old Testament. He desired the Messiah to appear there, and that the church would be formed there.

He has a sound plan for His people and His land. In the next few years, most of the Jewish people in the world will actually live in the land of Israel, and today, we have seen much of that happening. Over a million new immigrants have returned home, and they have come from the north (former USSR) and south (Ethiopia) just as Isaiah from the Bible said they would. God is bringing about a profound spiritual change to the people, so God's eternal plan will then be worked out for Israel, for the Church, and for the world. It will be worked out in the physical land of Israel and with the people who have returned from all the nations of the earth. The end results will be an eternal age of peace and blessing for all mankind.

Learn More about the History of Israel!

Why are the Israelites God's chosen people?

God does not play favorites among His people, however, the Bible does tell us that God's chosen people are the Jewish race because they were the ONLY ones to obey Him in lieu of other gods.

Deuteronomy 7:6 says, "For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession." This does not mean they are automatically "saved" and will go to Heaven. In order to assurance of eternal life in heaven, one must believe in God's Son, Jesus. Because of God's Promise to redeem the Jews in the end times, Israel will turn to her Messiah and be saved. So, in the meantime, any believers in Jesus are "grafted in" and may partake of the Tree of Life.

What are the factors that were involved in God's selection of Israel?



His instructions to mankind, as a whole, had been challenged by a united rebellion of the people against Him at Babel (Genesis 11:1-9), and He then forcibly confounded their languages and divided them into distinct nations.



His promise of a coming Redeemer to reconcile a lost world to Himself required that God should become man some day and He would thus have to be born into a particular nation and people.

Such a nation would have to be prepared, both by divine revelation and national experience, to be the nation through which the Savior would come.



All of the nations formed as a result of the judgment at Babel were already in rebellion against God and unsuitable for this purpose.



God, therefore, chose one man, Abraham, to establish a new nation through which "all families of the earth would be blessed."

Not only are the people of Israel special and God's chosen people, but the land is also special. In Deuteronomy 11:12, we read, "It is a land the LORD your God cares for; the eyes of the LORD your God are continually on it from the beginning of the year to its end." God is working out Israel's salvation from the time of the Old Testament. He desired the Messiah to appear there, and that the church would be formed there.

He has a sound plan for His people and His land. In the next few years, most of the Jewish people in the world will actually live in the land of Israel, and today, we have seen much of that happening. Over a million new immigrants have returned home, and they have come from the north (former USSR) and south (Ethiopia) just as Isaiah from the Bible said they would. God is bringing about a profound spiritual change to the people, so God's eternal plan will then be worked out for Israel, for the Church, and for the world. It will be worked out in the physical land of Israel and with the people who have returned from all the nations of the earth. The end results will be an eternal age of peace and blessing for all mankind.

Learn More about the History of Israel!

Why are the Israelites God's chosen people?

God does not play favorites among His people, however, the Bible does tell us that God's chosen people are the Jewish race because they were the ONLY ones to obey Him in lieu of other gods.

Deuteronomy 7:6 says, "For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession." This does not mean they are automatically "saved" and will go to Heaven. In order to assurance of eternal life in heaven, one must believe in God's Son, Jesus. Because of God's Promise to redeem the Jews in the end times, Israel will turn to her Messiah and be saved. So, in the meantime, any believers in Jesus are "grafted in" and may partake of the Tree of Life.

What are the factors that were involved in God's selection of Israel?



His instructions to mankind, as a whole, had been challenged by a united rebellion of the people against Him at Babel (Genesis 11:1-9), and He then forcibly confounded their languages and divided them into distinct nations.



His promise of a coming Redeemer to reconcile a lost world to Himself required that God should become man some day and He would thus have to be born into a particular nation and people.

Such a nation would have to be prepared, both by divine revelation and national experience, to be the nation through which the Savior would come.



All of the nations formed as a result of the judgment at Babel were already in rebellion against God and unsuitable for this purpose.



God, therefore, chose one man, Abraham, to establish a new nation through which "all families of the earth would be blessed."

Not only are the people of Israel special and God's chosen people, but the land is also special. In Deuteronomy 11:12, we read, "It is a land the LORD your God cares for; the eyes of the LORD your God are continually on it from the beginning of the year to its end." God is working out Israel's salvation from the time of the Old Testament. He desired the Messiah to appear there, and that the church would be formed there.

He has a sound plan for His people and His land. In the next few years, most of the Jewish people in the world will actually live in the land of Israel, and today, we have seen much of that happening. Over a million new immigrants have returned home, and they have come from the north (former USSR) and south (Ethiopia) just as Isaiah from the Bible said they would. God is bringing about a profound spiritual change to the people, so God's eternal plan will then be worked out for Israel, for the Church, and for the world. It will be worked out in the physical land of Israel and with the people who have returned from all the nations of the earth. The end results will be an eternal age of peace and blessing for all mankind.

Learn More about the History of Israel!

Why are the Israelites God's chosen people?

God does not play favorites among His people, however, the Bible does tell us that God's chosen people are the Jewish race because they were the ONLY ones to obey Him in lieu of other gods.

Deuteronomy 7:6 says, "For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession." This does not mean they are automatically "saved" and will go to Heaven. In order to assurance of eternal life in heaven, one must believe in God's Son, Jesus. Because of God's Promise to redeem the Jews in the end times, Israel will turn to her Messiah and be saved. So, in the meantime, any believers in Jesus are "grafted in" and may partake of the Tree of Life.

What are the factors that were involved in God's selection of Israel?



His instructions to mankind, as a whole, had been challenged by a united rebellion of the people against Him at Babel (Genesis 11:1-9), and He then forcibly confounded their languages and divided them into distinct nations.



His promise of a coming Redeemer to reconcile a lost world to Himself required that God should become man some day and He would thus have to be born into a particular nation and people.

Such a nation would have to be prepared, both by divine revelation and national experience, to be the nation through which the Savior would come.



All of the nations formed as a result of the judgment at Babel were already in rebellion against God and unsuitable for this purpose.



God, therefore, chose one man, Abraham, to establish a new nation through which "all families of the earth would be blessed."

Not only are the people of Israel special and God's chosen people, but the land is also special. In Deuteronomy 11:12, we read, "It is a land the LORD your God cares for; the eyes of the LORD your God are continually on it from the beginning of the year to its end." God is working out Israel's salvation from the time of the Old Testament. He desired the Messiah to appear there, and that the church would be formed there.

He has a sound plan for His people and His land. In the next few years, most of the Jewish people in the world will actually live in the land of Israel, and today, we have seen much of that happening. Over a million new immigrants have returned home, and they have come from the north (former USSR) and south (Ethiopia) just as Isaiah from the Bible said they would. God is bringing about a profound spiritual change to the people, so God's eternal plan will then be worked out for Israel, for the Church, and for the world. It will be worked out in the physical land of Israel and with the people who have returned from all the nations of the earth. The end results will be an eternal age of peace and blessing for all mankind.

Learn More about the History of Israel!

Why are the Israelites God's chosen people?

God does not play favorites among His people, however, the Bible does tell us that God's chosen people are the Jewish race because they were the ONLY ones to obey Him in lieu of other gods.

Deuteronomy 7:6 says, "For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession." This does not mean they are automatically "saved" and will go to Heaven. In order to assurance of eternal life in heaven, one must believe in God's Son, Jesus. Because of God's Promise to redeem the Jews in the end times, Israel will turn to her Messiah and be saved. So, in the meantime, any believers in Jesus are "grafted in" and may partake of the Tree of Life.

What are the factors that were involved in God's selection of Israel?



His instructions to mankind, as a whole, had been challenged by a united rebellion of the people against Him at Babel (Genesis 11:1-9), and He then forcibly confounded their languages and divided them into distinct nations.



His promise of a coming Redeemer to reconcile a lost world to Himself required that God should become man some day and He would thus have to be born into a particular nation and people.

Such a nation would have to be prepared, both by divine revelation and national experience, to be the nation through which the Savior would come.



All of the nations formed as a result of the judgment at Babel were already in rebellion against God and unsuitable for this purpose.



God, therefore, chose one man, Abraham, to establish a new nation through which "all families of the earth would be blessed."

Not only are the people of Israel special and God's chosen people, but the land is also special. In Deuteronomy 11:12, we read, "It is a land the LORD your God cares for; the eyes of the LORD your God are continually on it from the beginning of the year to its end." God is working out Israel's salvation from the time of the Old Testament. He desired the Messiah to appear there, and that the church would be formed there.

He has a sound plan for His people and His land. In the next few years, most of the Jewish people in the world will actually live in the land of Israel, and today, we have seen much of that happening. Over a million new immigrants have returned home, and they have come from the north (former USSR) and south (Ethiopia) just as Isaiah from the Bible said they would. God is bringing about a profound spiritual change to the people, so God's eternal plan will then be worked out for Israel, for the Church, and for the world. It will be worked out in the physical land of Israel and with the people who have returned from all the nations of the earth. The end results will be an eternal age of peace and blessing for all mankind.

Learn More about the History of Israel!

Why are the Israelites God's chosen people?

God does not play favorites among His people, however, the Bible does tell us that God's chosen people are the Jewish race because they were the ONLY ones to obey Him in lieu of other gods.

Deuteronomy 7:6 says, "For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession." This does not mean they are automatically "saved" and will go to Heaven. In order to assurance of eternal life in heaven, one must believe in God's Son, Jesus. Because of God's Promise to redeem the Jews in the end times, Israel will turn to her Messiah and be saved. So, in the meantime, any believers in Jesus are "grafted in" and may partake of the Tree of Life.

What are the factors that were involved in God's selection of Israel?



His instructions to mankind, as a whole, had been challenged by a united rebellion of the people against Him at Babel (Genesis 11:1-9), and He then forcibly confounded their languages and divided them into distinct nations.



His promise of a coming Redeemer to reconcile a lost world to Himself required that God should become man some day and He would thus have to be born into a particular nation and people.

Such a nation would have to be prepared, both by divine revelation and national experience, to be the nation through which the Savior would come.



All of the nations formed as a result of the judgment at Babel were already in rebellion against God and unsuitable for this purpose.



God, therefore, chose one man, Abraham, to establish a new nation through which "all families of the earth would be blessed."

Not only are the people of Israel special and God's chosen people, but the land is also special. In Deuteronomy 11:12, we read, "It is a land the LORD your God cares for; the eyes of the LORD your God are continually on it from the beginning of the year to its end." God is working out Israel's salvation from the time of the Old Testament. He desired the Messiah to appear there, and that the church would be formed there.

He has a sound plan for His people and His land. In the next few years, most of the Jewish people in the world will actually live in the land of Israel, and today, we have seen much of that happening. Over a million new immigrants have returned home, and they have come from the north (former USSR) and south (Ethiopia) just as Isaiah from the Bible said they would. God is bringing about a profound spiritual change to the people, so God's eternal plan will then be worked out for Israel, for the Church, and for the world. It will be worked out in the physical land of Israel and with the people who have returned from all the nations of the earth. The end results will be an eternal age of peace and blessing for all mankind.

Learn More about the History of Israel!

Why are the Israelites God's chosen people?

God does not play favorites among His people, however, the Bible does tell us that God's chosen people are the Jewish race because they were the ONLY ones to obey Him in lieu of other gods.

Deuteronomy 7:6 says, "For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession." This does not mean they are automatically "saved" and will go to Heaven. In order to assurance of eternal life in heaven, one must believe in God's Son, Jesus. Because of God's Promise to redeem the Jews in the end times, Israel will turn to her Messiah and be saved. So, in the meantime, any believers in Jesus are "grafted in" and may partake of the Tree of Life.

What are the factors that were involved in God's selection of Israel?



His instructions to mankind, as a whole, had been challenged by a united rebellion of the people against Him at Babel (Genesis 11:1-9), and He then forcibly confounded their languages and divided them into distinct nations.



His promise of a coming Redeemer to reconcile a lost world to Himself required that God should become man some day and He would thus have to be born into a particular nation and people.

Such a nation would have to be prepared, both by divine revelation and national experience, to be the nation through which the Savior would come.



All of the nations formed as a result of the judgment at Babel were already in rebellion against God and unsuitable for this purpose.



God, therefore, chose one man, Abraham, to establish a new nation through which "all families of the earth would be blessed."

Not only are the people of Israel special and God's chosen people, but the land is also special. In Deuteronomy 11:12, we read, "It is a land the LORD your God cares for; the eyes of the LORD your God are continually on it from the beginning of the year to its end." God is working out Israel's salvation from the time of the Old Testament. He desired the Messiah to appear there, and that the church would be formed there.

He has a sound plan for His people and His land. In the next few years, most of the Jewish people in the world will actually live in the land of Israel, and today, we have seen much of that happening. Over a million new immigrants have returned home, and they have come from the north (former USSR) and south (Ethiopia) just as Isaiah from the Bible said they would. God is bringing about a profound spiritual change to the people, so God's eternal plan will then be worked out for Israel, for the Church, and for the world. It will be worked out in the physical land of Israel and with the people who have returned from all the nations of the earth. The end results will be an eternal age of peace and blessing for all mankind.

Learn More about the History of Israel!

Why are the Israelites God's chosen people?

God does not play favorites among His people, however, the Bible does tell us that God's chosen people are the Jewish race because they were the ONLY ones to obey Him in lieu of other gods.

Deuteronomy 7:6 says, "For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession." This does not mean they are automatically "saved" and will go to Heaven. In order to assurance of eternal life in heaven, one must believe in God's Son, Jesus. Because of God's Promise to redeem the Jews in the end times, Israel will turn to her Messiah and be saved. So, in the meantime, any believers in Jesus are "grafted in" and may partake of the Tree of Life.

What are the factors that were involved in God's selection of Israel?



His instructions to mankind, as a whole, had been challenged by a united rebellion of the people against Him at Babel (Genesis 11:1-9), and He then forcibly confounded their languages and divided them into distinct nations.



His promise of a coming Redeemer to reconcile a lost world to Himself required that God should become man some day and He would thus have to be born into a particular nation and people.

Such a nation would have to be prepared, both by divine revelation and national experience, to be the nation through which the Savior would come.



All of the nations formed as a result of the judgment at Babel were already in rebellion against God and unsuitable for this purpose.



God, therefore, chose one man, Abraham, to establish a new nation through which "all families of the earth would be blessed."

Not only are the people of Israel special and God's chosen people, but the land is also special. In Deuteronomy 11:12, we read, "It is a land the LORD your God cares for; the eyes of the LORD your God are continually on it from the beginning of the year to its end." God is working out Israel's salvation from the time of the Old Testament. He desired the Messiah to appear there, and that the church would be formed there.

He has a sound plan for His people and His land. In the next few years, most of the Jewish people in the world will actually live in the land of Israel, and today, we have seen much of that happening. Over a million new immigrants have returned home, and they have come from the north (former USSR) and south (Ethiopia) just as Isaiah from the Bible said they would. God is bringing about a profound spiritual change to the people, so God's eternal plan will then be worked out for Israel, for the Church, and for the world. It will be worked out in the physical land of Israel and with the people who have returned from all the nations of the earth. The end results will be an eternal age of peace and blessing for all mankind.

Learn More about the History of Israel!

Why are the Israelites God's chosen people?

God does not play favorites among His people, however, the Bible does tell us that God's chosen people are the Jewish race because they were the ONLY ones to obey Him in lieu of other gods.

Deuteronomy 7:6 says, "For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession." This does not mean they are automatically "saved" and will go to Heaven. In order to assurance of eternal life in heaven, one must believe in God's Son, Jesus. Because of God's Promise to redeem the Jews in the end times, Israel will turn to her Messiah and be saved. So, in the meantime, any believers in Jesus are "grafted in" and may partake of the Tree of Life.

What are the factors that were involved in God's selection of Israel?



His instructions to mankind, as a whole, had been challenged by a united rebellion of the people against Him at Babel (Genesis 11:1-9), and He then forcibly confounded their languages and divided them into distinct nations.



His promise of a coming Redeemer to reconcile a lost world to Himself required that God should become man some day and He would thus have to be born into a particular nation and people.

Such a nation would have to be prepared, both by divine revelation and national experience, to be the nation through which the Savior would come.



All of the nations formed as a result of the judgment at Babel were already in rebellion against God and unsuitable for this purpose.



God, therefore, chose one man, Abraham, to establish a new nation through which "all families of the earth would be blessed."

Not only are the people of Israel special and God's chosen people, but the land is also special. In Deuteronomy 11:12, we read, "It is a land the LORD your God cares for; the eyes of the LORD your God are continually on it from the beginning of the year to its end." God is working out Israel's salvation from the time of the Old Testament. He desired the Messiah to appear there, and that the church would be formed there.

He has a sound plan for His people and His land. In the next few years, most of the Jewish people in the world will actually live in the land of Israel, and today, we have seen much of that happening. Over a million new immigrants have returned home, and they have come from the north (former USSR) and south (Ethiopia) just as Isaiah from the Bible said they would. God is bringing about a profound spiritual change to the people, so God's eternal plan will then be worked out for Israel, for the Church, and for the world. It will be worked out in the physical land of Israel and with the people who have returned from all the nations of the earth. The end results will be an eternal age of peace and blessing for all mankind.

Learn More about the History of Israel!

Why are the Israelites God's chosen people?

God does not play favorites among His people, however, the Bible does tell us that God's chosen people are the Jewish race because they were the ONLY ones to obey Him in lieu of other gods.

Deuteronomy 7:6 says, "For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession." This does not mean they are automatically "saved" and will go to Heaven. In order to assurance of eternal life in heaven, one must believe in God's Son, Jesus. Because of God's Promise to redeem the Jews in the end times, Israel will turn to her Messiah and be saved. So, in the meantime, any believers in Jesus are "grafted in" and may partake of the Tree of Life.

What are the factors that were involved in God's selection of Israel?



His instructions to mankind, as a whole, had been challenged by a united rebellion of the people against Him at Babel (Genesis 11:1-9), and He then forcibly confounded their languages and divided them into distinct nations.



His promise of a coming Redeemer to reconcile a lost world to Himself required that God should become man some day and He would thus have to be born into a particular nation and people.

Such a nation would have to be prepared, both by divine revelation and national experience, to be the nation through which the Savior would come.



All of the nations formed as a result of the judgment at Babel were already in rebellion against God and unsuitable for this purpose.



God, therefore, chose one man, Abraham, to establish a new nation through which "all families of the earth would be blessed."

Not only are the people of Israel special and God's chosen people, but the land is also special. In Deuteronomy 11:12, we read, "It is a land the LORD your God cares for; the eyes of the LORD your God are continually on it from the beginning of the year to its end." God is working out Israel's salvation from the time of the Old Testament. He desired the Messiah to appear there, and that the church would be formed there.

He has a sound plan for His people and His land. In the next few years, most of the Jewish people in the world will actually live in the land of Israel, and today, we have seen much of that happening. Over a million new immigrants have returned home, and they have come from the north (former USSR) and south (Ethiopia) just as Isaiah from the Bible said they would. God is bringing about a profound spiritual change to the people, so God's eternal plan will then be worked out for Israel, for the Church, and for the world. It will be worked out in the physical land of Israel and with the people who have returned from all the nations of the earth. The end results will be an eternal age of peace and blessing for all mankind.

Learn More about the History of Israel!

Why are the Israelites God's chosen people?

God does not play favorites among His people, however, the Bible does tell us that God's chosen people are the Jewish race because they were the ONLY ones to obey Him in lieu of other gods.

Deuteronomy 7:6 says, "For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession." This does not mean they are automatically "saved" and will go to Heaven. In order to assurance of eternal life in heaven, one must believe in God's Son, Jesus. Because of God's Promise to redeem the Jews in the end times, Israel will turn to her Messiah and be saved. So, in the meantime, any believers in Jesus are "grafted in" and may partake of the Tree of Life.

What are the factors that were involved in God's selection of Israel?



His instructions to mankind, as a whole, had been challenged by a united rebellion of the people against Him at Babel (Genesis 11:1-9), and He then forcibly confounded their languages and divided them into distinct nations.



His promise of a coming Redeemer to reconcile a lost world to Himself required that God should become man some day and He would thus have to be born into a particular nation and people.

Such a nation would have to be prepared, both by divine revelation and national experience, to be the nation through which the Savior would come.



All of the nations formed as a result of the judgment at Babel were already in rebellion against God and unsuitable for this purpose.



God, therefore, chose one man, Abraham, to establish a new nation through which "all families of the earth would be blessed."

Not only are the people of Israel special and God's chosen people, but the land is also special. In Deuteronomy 11:12, we read, "It is a land the LORD your God cares for; the eyes of the LORD your God are continually on it from the beginning of the year to its end." God is working out Israel's salvation from the time of the Old Testament. He desired the Messiah to appear there, and that the church would be formed there.

He has a sound plan for His people and His land. In the next few years, most of the Jewish people in the world will actually live in the land of Israel, and today, we have seen much of that happening. Over a million new immigrants have returned home, and they have come from the north (former USSR) and south (Ethiopia) just as Isaiah from the Bible said they would. God is bringing about a profound spiritual change to the people, so God's eternal plan will then be worked out for Israel, for the Church, and for the world. It will be worked out in the physical land of Israel and with the people who have returned from all the nations of the earth. The end results will be an eternal age of peace and blessing for all mankind.

Learn More about the History of Israel!

Why are the Israelites God's chosen people?

God does not play favorites among His people, however, the Bible does tell us that God's chosen people are the Jewish race because they were the ONLY ones to obey Him in lieu of other gods.

Deuteronomy 7:6 says, "For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession." This does not mean they are automatically "saved" and will go to Heaven. In order to assurance of eternal life in heaven, one must believe in God's Son, Jesus. Because of God's Promise to redeem the Jews in the end times, Israel will turn to her Messiah and be saved. So, in the meantime, any believers in Jesus are "grafted in" and may partake of the Tree of Life.

What are the factors that were involved in God's selection of Israel?



His instructions to mankind, as a whole, had been challenged by a united rebellion of the people against Him at Babel (Genesis 11:1-9), and He then forcibly confounded their languages and divided them into distinct nations.



His promise of a coming Redeemer to reconcile a lost world to Himself required that God should become man some day and He would thus have to be born into a particular nation and people.

Such a nation would have to be prepared, both by divine revelation and national experience, to be the nation through which the Savior would come.



All of the nations formed as a result of the judgment at Babel were already in rebellion against God and unsuitable for this purpose.



God, therefore, chose one man, Abraham, to establish a new nation through which "all families of the earth would be blessed."

Not only are the people of Israel special and God's chosen people, but the land is also special. In Deuteronomy 11:12, we read, "It is a land the LORD your God cares for; the eyes of the LORD your God are continually on it from the beginning of the year to its end." God is working out Israel's salvation from the time of the Old Testament. He desired the Messiah to appear there, and that the church would be formed there.

He has a sound plan for His people and His land. In the next few years, most of the Jewish people in the world will actually live in the land of Israel, and today, we have seen much of that happening. Over a million new immigrants have returned home, and they have come from the north (former USSR) and south (Ethiopia) just as Isaiah from the Bible said they would. God is bringing about a profound spiritual change to the people, so God's eternal plan will then be worked out for Israel, for the Church, and for the world. It will be worked out in the physical land of Israel and with the people who have returned from all the nations of the earth. The end results will be an eternal age of peace and blessing for all mankind.

Learn More about the History of Israel!

Why are the Israelites God's chosen people?

God does not play favorites among His people, however, the Bible does tell us that God's chosen people are the Jewish race because they were the ONLY ones to obey Him in lieu of other gods.

Deuteronomy 7:6 says, "For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession." This does not mean they are automatically "saved" and will go to Heaven. In order to assurance of eternal life in heaven, one must believe in God's Son, Jesus. Because of God's Promise to redeem the Jews in the end times, Israel will turn to her Messiah and be saved. So, in the meantime, any believers in Jesus are "grafted in" and may partake of the Tree of Life.

What are the factors that were involved in God's selection of Israel?



His instructions to mankind, as a whole, had been challenged by a united rebellion of the people against Him at Babel (Genesis 11:1-9), and He then forcibly confounded their languages and divided them into distinct nations.



His promise of a coming Redeemer to reconcile a lost world to Himself required that God should become man some day and He would thus have to be born into a particular nation and people.

Such a nation would have to be prepared, both by divine revelation and national experience, to be the nation through which the Savior would come.



All of the nations formed as a result of the judgment at Babel were already in rebellion against God and unsuitable for this purpose.



God, therefore, chose one man, Abraham, to establish a new nation through which "all families of the earth would be blessed."

Not only are the people of Israel special and God's chosen people, but the land is also special. In Deuteronomy 11:12, we read, "It is a land the LORD your God cares for; the eyes of the LORD your God are continually on it from the beginning of the year to its end." God is working out Israel's salvation from the time of the Old Testament. He desired the Messiah to appear there, and that the church would be formed there.

He has a sound plan for His people and His land. In the next few years, most of the Jewish people in the world will actually live in the land of Israel, and today, we have seen much of that happening. Over a million new immigrants have returned home, and they have come from the north (former USSR) and south (Ethiopia) just as Isaiah from the Bible said they would. God is bringing about a profound spiritual change to the people, so God's eternal plan will then be worked out for Israel, for the Church, and for the world. It will be worked out in the physical land of Israel and with the people who have returned from all the nations of the earth. The end results will be an eternal age of peace and blessing for all mankind.

Learn More about the History of Israel!

Why are the Israelites God's chosen people?

God does not play favorites among His people, however, the Bible does tell us that God's chosen people are the Jewish race because they were the ONLY ones to obey Him in lieu of other gods.

Deuteronomy 7:6 says, "For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession." This does not mean they are automatically "saved" and will go to Heaven. In order to assurance of eternal life in heaven, one must believe in God's Son, Jesus. Because of God's Promise to redeem the Jews in the end times, Israel will turn to her Messiah and be saved. So, in the meantime, any believers in Jesus are "grafted in" and may partake of the Tree of Life.

What are the factors that were involved in God's selection of Israel?



His instructions to mankind, as a whole, had been challenged by a united rebellion of the people against Him at Babel (Genesis 11:1-9), and He then forcibly confounded their languages and divided them into distinct nations.



His promise of a coming Redeemer to reconcile a lost world to Himself required that God should become man some day and He would thus have to be born into a particular nation and people.

Such a nation would have to be prepared, both by divine revelation and national experience, to be the nation through which the Savior would come.



All of the nations formed as a result of the judgment at Babel were already in rebellion against God and unsuitable for this purpose.



God, therefore, chose one man, Abraham, to establish a new nation through which "all families of the earth would be blessed."

Not only are the people of Israel special and God's chosen people, but the land is also special. In Deuteronomy 11:12, we read, "It is a land the LORD your God cares for; the eyes of the LORD your God are continually on it from the beginning of the year to its end." God is working out Israel's salvation from the time of the Old Testament. He desired the Messiah to appear there, and that the church would be formed there.

He has a sound plan for His people and His land. In the next few years, most of the Jewish people in the world will actually live in the land of Israel, and today, we have seen much of that happening. Over a million new immigrants have returned home, and they have come from the north (former USSR) and south (Ethiopia) just as Isaiah from the Bible said they would. God is bringing about a profound spiritual change to the people, so God's eternal plan will then be worked out for Israel, for the Church, and for the world. It will be worked out in the physical land of Israel and with the people who have returned from all the nations of the earth. The end results will be an eternal age of peace and blessing for all mankind.

Learn More about the History of Israel!

Why are the Israelites God's chosen people?

God does not play favorites among His people, however, the Bible does tell us that God's chosen people are the Jewish race because they were the ONLY ones to obey Him in lieu of other gods.

Deuteronomy 7:6 says, "For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession." This does not mean they are automatically "saved" and will go to Heaven. In order to assurance of eternal life in heaven, one must believe in God's Son, Jesus. Because of God's Promise to redeem the Jews in the end times, Israel will turn to her Messiah and be saved. So, in the meantime, any believers in Jesus are "grafted in" and may partake of the Tree of Life.

What are the factors that were involved in God's selection of Israel?



His instructions to mankind, as a whole, had been challenged by a united rebellion of the people against Him at Babel (Genesis 11:1-9), and He then forcibly confounded their languages and divided them into distinct nations.



His promise of a coming Redeemer to reconcile a lost world to Himself required that God should become man some day and He would thus have to be born into a particular nation and people.

Such a nation would have to be prepared, both by divine revelation and national experience, to be the nation through which the Savior would come.



All of the nations formed as a result of the judgment at Babel were already in rebellion against God and unsuitable for this purpose.



God, therefore, chose one man, Abraham, to establish a new nation through which "all families of the earth would be blessed."

Not only are the people of Israel special and God's chosen people, but the land is also special. In Deuteronomy 11:12, we read, "It is a land the LORD your God cares for; the eyes of the LORD your God are continually on it from the beginning of the year to its end." God is working out Israel's salvation from the time of the Old Testament. He desired the Messiah to appear there, and that the church would be formed there.

He has a sound plan for His people and His land. In the next few years, most of the Jewish people in the world will actually live in the land of Israel, and today, we have seen much of that happening. Over a million new immigrants have returned home, and they have come from the north (former USSR) and south (Ethiopia) just as Isaiah from the Bible said they would. God is bringing about a profound spiritual change to the people, so God's eternal plan will then be worked out for Israel, for the Church, and for the world. It will be worked out in the physical land of Israel and with the people who have returned from all the nations of the earth. The end results will be an eternal age of peace and blessing for all mankind.

Learn More about the History of Israel!

Why are the Israelites God's chosen people?

God does not play favorites among His people, however, the Bible does tell us that God's chosen people are the Jewish race because they were the ONLY ones to obey Him in lieu of other gods.

Deuteronomy 7:6 says, "For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession." This does not mean they are automatically "saved" and will go to Heaven. In order to assurance of eternal life in heaven, one must believe in God's Son, Jesus. Because of God's Promise to redeem the Jews in the end times, Israel will turn to her Messiah and be saved. So, in the meantime, any believers in Jesus are "grafted in" and may partake of the Tree of Life.

What are the factors that were involved in God's selection of Israel?



His instructions to mankind, as a whole, had been challenged by a united rebellion of the people against Him at Babel (Genesis 11:1-9), and He then forcibly confounded their languages and divided them into distinct nations.



His promise of a coming Redeemer to reconcile a lost world to Himself required that God should become man some day and He would thus have to be born into a particular nation and people.

Such a nation would have to be prepared, both by divine revelation and national experience, to be the nation through which the Savior would come.



All of the nations formed as a result of the judgment at Babel were already in rebellion against God and unsuitable for this purpose.



God, therefore, chose one man, Abraham, to establish a new nation through which "all families of the earth would be blessed."

Not only are the people of Israel special and God's chosen people, but the land is also special. In Deuteronomy 11:12, we read, "It is a land the LORD your God cares for; the eyes of the LORD your God are continually on it from the beginning of the year to its end." God is working out Israel's salvation from the time of the Old Testament. He desired the Messiah to appear there, and that the church would be formed there.

He has a sound plan for His people and His land. In the next few years, most of the Jewish people in the world will actually live in the land of Israel, and today, we have seen much of that happening. Over a million new immigrants have returned home, and they have come from the north (former USSR) and south (Ethiopia) just as Isaiah from the Bible said they would. God is bringing about a profound spiritual change to the people, so God's eternal plan will then be worked out for Israel, for the Church, and for the world. It will be worked out in the physical land of Israel and with the people who have returned from all the nations of the earth. The end results will be an eternal age of peace and blessing for all mankind.

Learn More about the History of Israel!

Why are the Israelites God's chosen people?

God does not play favorites among His people, however, the Bible does tell us that God's chosen people are the Jewish race because they were the ONLY ones to obey Him in lieu of other gods.

Deuteronomy 7:6 says, "For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession." This does not mean they are automatically "saved" and will go to Heaven. In order to assurance of eternal life in heaven, one must believe in God's Son, Jesus. Because of God's Promise to redeem the Jews in the end times, Israel will turn to her Messiah and be saved. So, in the meantime, any believers in Jesus are "grafted in" and may partake of the Tree of Life.

What are the factors that were involved in God's selection of Israel?



His instructions to mankind, as a whole, had been challenged by a united rebellion of the people against Him at Babel (Genesis 11:1-9), and He then forcibly confounded their languages and divided them into distinct nations.



His promise of a coming Redeemer to reconcile a lost world to Himself required that God should become man some day and He would thus have to be born into a particular nation and people.

Such a nation would have to be prepared, both by divine revelation and national experience, to be the nation through which the Savior would come.



All of the nations formed as a result of the judgment at Babel were already in rebellion against God and unsuitable for this purpose.



God, therefore, chose one man, Abraham, to establish a new nation through which "all families of the earth would be blessed."

Not only are the people of Israel special and God's chosen people, but the land is also special. In Deuteronomy 11:12, we read, "It is a land the LORD your God cares for; the eyes of the LORD your God are continually on it from the beginning of the year to its end." God is working out Israel's salvation from the time of the Old Testament. He desired the Messiah to appear there, and that the church would be formed there.

He has a sound plan for His people and His land. In the next few years, most of the Jewish people in the world will actually live in the land of Israel, and today, we have seen much of that happening. Over a million new immigrants have returned home, and they have come from the north (former USSR) and south (Ethiopia) just as Isaiah from the Bible said they would. God is bringing about a profound spiritual change to the people, so God's eternal plan will then be worked out for Israel, for the Church, and for the world. It will be worked out in the physical land of Israel and with the people who have returned from all the nations of the earth. The end results will be an eternal age of peace and blessing for all mankind.

Learn More about the History of Israel!

Why are the Israelites God's chosen people?

God does not play favorites among His people, however, the Bible does tell us that God's chosen people are the Jewish race because they were the ONLY ones to obey Him in lieu of other gods.

Deuteronomy 7:6 says, "For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession." This does not mean they are automatically "saved" and will go to Heaven. In order to assurance of eternal life in heaven, one must believe in God's Son, Jesus. Because of God's Promise to redeem the Jews in the end times, Israel will turn to her Messiah and be saved. So, in the meantime, any believers in Jesus are "grafted in" and may partake of the Tree of Life.

What are the factors that were involved in God's selection of Israel?



His instructions to mankind, as a whole, had been challenged by a united rebellion of the people against Him at Babel (Genesis 11:1-9), and He then forcibly confounded their languages and divided them into distinct nations.



His promise of a coming Redeemer to reconcile a lost world to Himself required that God should become man some day and He would thus have to be born into a particular nation and people.

Such a nation would have to be prepared, both by divine revelation and national experience, to be the nation through which the Savior would come.



All of the nations formed as a result of the judgment at Babel were already in rebellion against God and unsuitable for this purpose.



God, therefore, chose one man, Abraham, to establish a new nation through which "all families of the earth would be blessed."

Not only are the people of Israel special and God's chosen people, but the land is also special. In Deuteronomy 11:12, we read, "It is a land the LORD your God cares for; the eyes of the LORD your God are continually on it from the beginning of the year to its end." God is working out Israel's salvation from the time of the Old Testament. He desired the Messiah to appear there, and that the church would be formed there.

He has a sound plan for His people and His land. In the next few years, most of the Jewish people in the world will actually live in the land of Israel, and today, we have seen much of that happening. Over a million new immigrants have returned home, and they have come from the north (former USSR) and south (Ethiopia) just as Isaiah from the Bible said they would. God is bringing about a profound spiritual change to the people, so God's eternal plan will then be worked out for Israel, for the Church, and for the world. It will be worked out in the physical land of Israel and with the people who have returned from all the nations of the earth. The end results will be an eternal age of peace and blessing for all mankind.

Learn More about the History of Israel!

Why are the Israelites God's chosen people?

God does not play favorites among His people, however, the Bible does tell us that God's chosen people are the Jewish race because they were the ONLY ones to obey Him in lieu of other gods.

Deuteronomy 7:6 says, "For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession." This does not mean they are automatically "saved" and will go to Heaven. In order to assurance of eternal life in heaven, one must believe in God's Son, Jesus. Because of God's Promise to redeem the Jews in the end times, Israel will turn to her Messiah and be saved. So, in the meantime, any believers in Jesus are "grafted in" and may partake of the Tree of Life.

What are the factors that were involved in God's selection of Israel?



His instructions to mankind, as a whole, had been challenged by a united rebellion of the people against Him at Babel (Genesis 11:1-9), and He then forcibly confounded their languages and divided them into distinct nations.



His promise of a coming Redeemer to reconcile a lost world to Himself required that God should become man some day and He would thus have to be born into a particular nation and people.

Such a nation would have to be prepared, both by divine revelation and national experience, to be the nation through which the Savior would come.



All of the nations formed as a result of the judgment at Babel were already in rebellion against God and unsuitable for this purpose.



God, therefore, chose one man, Abraham, to establish a new nation through which "all families of the earth would be blessed."

Not only are the people of Israel special and God's chosen people, but the land is also special. In Deuteronomy 11:12, we read, "It is a land the LORD your God cares for; the eyes of the LORD your God are continually on it from the beginning of the year to its end." God is working out Israel's salvation from the time of the Old Testament. He desired the Messiah to appear there, and that the church would be formed there.

He has a sound plan for His people and His land. In the next few years, most of the Jewish people in the world will actually live in the land of Israel, and today, we have seen much of that happening. Over a million new immigrants have returned home, and they have come from the north (former USSR) and south (Ethiopia) just as Isaiah from the Bible said they would. God is bringing about a profound spiritual change to the people, so God's eternal plan will then be worked out for Israel, for the Church, and for the world. It will be worked out in the physical land of Israel and with the people who have returned from all the nations of the earth. The end results will be an eternal age of peace and blessing for all mankind.

Learn More about the History of Israel!

Why are the Israelites God's chosen people?

God does not play favorites among His people, however, the Bible does tell us that God's chosen people are the Jewish race because they were the ONLY ones to obey Him in lieu of other gods.

Deuteronomy 7:6 says, "For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession." This does not mean they are automatically "saved" and will go to Heaven. In order to assurance of eternal life in heaven, one must believe in God's Son, Jesus. Because of God's Promise to redeem the Jews in the end times, Israel will turn to her Messiah and be saved. So, in the meantime, any believers in Jesus are "grafted in" and may partake of the Tree of Life.

What are the factors that were involved in God's selection of Israel?



His instructions to mankind, as a whole, had been challenged by a united rebellion of the people against Him at Babel (Genesis 11:1-9), and He then forcibly confounded their languages and divided them into distinct nations.



His promise of a coming Redeemer to reconcile a lost world to Himself required that God should become man some day and He would thus have to be born into a particular nation and people.

Such a nation would have to be prepared, both by divine revelation and national experience, to be the nation through which the Savior would come.



All of the nations formed as a result of the judgment at Babel were already in rebellion against God and unsuitable for this purpose.



God, therefore, chose one man, Abraham, to establish a new nation through which "all families of the earth would be blessed."

Not only are the people of Israel special and God's chosen people, but the land is also special. In Deuteronomy 11:12, we read, "It is a land the LORD your God cares for; the eyes of the LORD your God are continually on it from the beginning of the year to its end." God is working out Israel's salvation from the time of the Old Testament. He desired the Messiah to appear there, and that the church would be formed there.

He has a sound plan for His people and His land. In the next few years, most of the Jewish people in the world will actually live in the land of Israel, and today, we have seen much of that happening. Over a million new immigrants have returned home, and they have come from the north (former USSR) and south (Ethiopia) just as Isaiah from the Bible said they would. God is bringing about a profound spiritual change to the people, so God's eternal plan will then be worked out for Israel, for the Church, and for the world. It will be worked out in the physical land of Israel and with the people who have returned from all the nations of the earth. The end results will be an eternal age of peace and blessing for all mankind.

Learn More about the History of Israel!

Why are the Israelites God's chosen people?

God does not play favorites among His people, however, the Bible does tell us that God's chosen people are the Jewish race because they were the ONLY ones to obey Him in lieu of other gods.

Deuteronomy 7:6 says, "For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession." This does not mean they are automatically "saved" and will go to Heaven. In order to assurance of eternal life in heaven, one must believe in God's Son, Jesus. Because of God's Promise to redeem the Jews in the end times, Israel will turn to her Messiah and be saved. So, in the meantime, any believers in Jesus are "grafted in" and may partake of the Tree of Life.

What are the factors that were involved in God's selection of Israel?



His instructions to mankind, as a whole, had been challenged by a united rebellion of the people against Him at Babel (Genesis 11:1-9), and He then forcibly confounded their languages and divided them into distinct nations.



His promise of a coming Redeemer to reconcile a lost world to Himself required that God should become man some day and He would thus have to be born into a particular nation and people.

Such a nation would have to be prepared, both by divine revelation and national experience, to be the nation through which the Savior would come.



All of the nations formed as a result of the judgment at Babel were already in rebellion against God and unsuitable for this purpose.



God, therefore, chose one man, Abraham, to establish a new nation through which "all families of the earth would be blessed."

Not only are the people of Israel special and God's chosen people, but the land is also special. In Deuteronomy 11:12, we read, "It is a land the LORD your God cares for; the eyes of the LORD your God are continually on it from the beginning of the year to its end." God is working out Israel's salvation from the time of the Old Testament. He desired the Messiah to appear there, and that the church would be formed there.

He has a sound plan for His people and His land. In the next few years, most of the Jewish people in the world will actually live in the land of Israel, and today, we have seen much of that happening. Over a million new immigrants have returned home, and they have come from the north (former USSR) and south (Ethiopia) just as Isaiah from the Bible said they would. God is bringing about a profound spiritual change to the people, so God's eternal plan will then be worked out for Israel, for the Church, and for the world. It will be worked out in the physical land of Israel and with the people who have returned from all the nations of the earth. The end results will be an eternal age of peace and blessing for all mankind.

Learn More about the History of Israel!

Why are the Israelites God's chosen people?

God does not play favorites among His people, however, the Bible does tell us that God's chosen people are the Jewish race because they were the ONLY ones to obey Him in lieu of other gods.

Deuteronomy 7:6 says, "For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession." This does not mean they are automatically "saved" and will go to Heaven. In order to assurance of eternal life in heaven, one must believe in God's Son, Jesus. Because of God's Promise to redeem the Jews in the end times, Israel will turn to her Messiah and be saved. So, in the meantime, any believers in Jesus are "grafted in" and may partake of the Tree of Life.

What are the factors that were involved in God's selection of Israel?



His instructions to mankind, as a whole, had been challenged by a united rebellion of the people against Him at Babel (Genesis 11:1-9), and He then forcibly confounded their languages and divided them into distinct nations.



His promise of a coming Redeemer to reconcile a lost world to Himself required that God should become man some day and He would thus have to be born into a particular nation and people.

Such a nation would have to be prepared, both by divine revelation and national experience, to be the nation through which the Savior would come.



All of the nations formed as a result of the judgment at Babel were already in rebellion against God and unsuitable for this purpose.



God, therefore, chose one man, Abraham, to establish a new nation through which "all families of the earth would be blessed."

Not only are the people of Israel special and God's chosen people, but the land is also special. In Deuteronomy 11:12, we read, "It is a land the LORD your God cares for; the eyes of the LORD your God are continually on it from the beginning of the year to its end." God is working out Israel's salvation from the time of the Old Testament. He desired the Messiah to appear there, and that the church would be formed there.

He has a sound plan for His people and His land. In the next few years, most of the Jewish people in the world will actually live in the land of Israel, and today, we have seen much of that happening. Over a million new immigrants have returned home, and they have come from the north (former USSR) and south (Ethiopia) just as Isaiah from the Bible said they would. God is bringing about a profound spiritual change to the people, so God's eternal plan will then be worked out for Israel, for the Church, and for the world. It will be worked out in the physical land of Israel and with the people who have returned from all the nations of the earth. The end results will be an eternal age of peace and blessing for all mankind.

Why are the Israelites God's chosen people?

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High school idiot? What do you think?

High school idiot?

"High school idiot? What do you think?"

I would like to start a new religion by crucifying this spammer.

OK, now thats funny!

- OK. You weren't born nor was a Secular Humanist throughout childhood. You're now a Secular Humanist. Fair enough.

"I wasn't born a Christian either. If you know anything about Christianity you know that in order to be one you must accept that Jesus Christ is the son of God. I have never accepted that. Therefore I have never been a Christian and am not now. "

This is one of the most peculiar explanations I've seen yet. You'd have everyone believe that a Christened baby isn't Christian until he or she principally accepts Jesus Christ to be the son of God. This defies logic. It implies that no female or male can be Christian until they declare such an acceptance knowing what they're saying, presumably by the time they turn 2 or 3 yrs. old. It's ridiculous. That's certainly true for the Christian denominations that strive to make a person Christian closest to his/her birth --

the public mark of a Christian to them is to receive the sacrament of Baptism in the name of the Father, and of the Son and the Holy Spirit. This sacrament is the equivalent of the Jewish circumcision which marks the moment a male baby officially becomes Jewish.

Other denominations teach that the definition of a Christian is someone who has been baptized as a repenting adult in the name of the Father and of the Son and the Holy Spirit.–For them, adult baptism is the transition from non-Christian to Christian. That's more in line with what you've said.

So the both interpretations are true, not only yours.



The fact you've realized one of Christianity's fundamental follies (many others exist besides) a few weeks ago is dandy, which makes your earlier statement today (that historically Christianity is one of the most compelling religions) all that more ludicrous. It eludes me how you can hop from one statement to a diametrically opposed one non-chalantly without even conceding your error in between or btw. But then again you're a rabid anti-Zionist, and I've heard about tons of eccentric behaviors and statements made throughout the last centuries alone.

Christianity is one of the most compelling religions to millions of people all over the world. The fact that I don't buy into it (or into any other religion) doesn't change the fact that it compels so many people.

Further, not all Christians believe that the sacrement of Baptism is necessary in order to obtain salvation.

Regardless, no one is born a Christian as you previously suggested. And you certainly can't have it forced upon you just because a Priest sprinkles water on your forehead. The notion is as silly as any other superstition.

While you'll probably contend I didn't notice or should have grasped what you really meant, the fact is your initial statement about Christianity being compelling could only have been interpreted to mean you personally subscribed to the contention. Further argument over this issue is pointless.



"Regardless, no one is born a Christian as you previously suggested. And you certainly can't have it forced upon you just because a Priest sprinkles water on your forehead. The notion is as silly as any other superstition."

Well, many people disagree with you on the Baptism or Christening point. Actually, maybe a baptised baby can only accept Christ as God's son at 5 yrs. of age by your standard? In the meantime he or she would be in limbo if you're believed.

The same logic you're employing would mean that a male can't become Jewish just because a rabbi or surgeon (approved of in Karaism) cuts off his foreskin 8 days after birth. This doesn't make sense *religiously*. I think you're projecting your Secular Humanist position onto this question.

"Well, many people disagree with you on the Baptism or Christening point."

Many people disagree with notion of Christianity altogether. So what? People disagree all the time. Nothing new.

"Actually, maybe a baptised baby can only accept Christ as God's son at 5 yrs. of age by your standard?"

It's not my standard and I do not know the answer. I would defer to higher authority, that of Jesus Christ himself. If you pray about it I would guess he will make this answer apparent unto you. "Seek and ye shall find". But I suppose if you asked a Christian the answer would be that "Jesus knows if you have really accepted him into your heart".

"In the meantime he or she would be in limbo if you're believed."

Well I don't. So this debate is moot.

"The same logic you're employing would mean that a male can't become Jewish just because a rabbi or surgeon (approved of in Karaism) cuts off his foreskin 8 days after birth. This doesn't make sense *religiously*."

I don't know and really don't care about relgious rituals, penis mutilation ceremonies, and other superstitious acts. This is pointless. You do realize you are discussing this with an atheist?

You are a bizarre individual SJ. I believe you would argue with a traffic sign.



"I think you're projecting your Secular Humanist position onto this question."

Probably. That's what secular humanists do.

Let me ask you SJ, are you religious? What are your beliefs precisely? Do you believe in God and the devil, heaven and hell?

- In the meantime he or she [a baptised baby advancing to the age of 5] would be in limbo if you're believed."

"Well I don't. So this debate is moot. "

You seem to be claiming here that such babies and toddlers are not Christian until after they have knowingly uttered the acceptance. Either that or you don't know. Other people agree with my position and you haven't disproved this.



- The same logic you're employing would mean that a male can't become Jewish just because a rabbi or surgeon (approved of in Karaism) cuts off his foreskin 8 days after birth. This doesn't make sense *religiously*.

"I don't know and really don't care about relgious rituals, penis mutilation ceremonies, and other superstitious acts. This is pointless. You do realize you are discussing this with an atheist? "

I demonstrated why I believe your reasoning on that point to be wanting and laid out a logical extention for the benefit of all readers.



"You are a bizarre individual SJ. I believe you would argue with a traffic sign. "

You consider yourself a traffic sign?



- I think you're projecting your Secular Humanist position onto this question.

"Probably. That's what secular humanists do. "

Thanks for admitting this much.

Don't think that I didn't notice your disregard of my inquiry as to your religious beliefs. I presume you are just afraid to put your own beliefs up for public ridicule as I have. That's pretty cowardly, but I suppose we can't expect anything else from a Zionist.

There's no fear on my part as I said above who I am as far as religion goes and I didn't want to repeat myself. Don't blame me for your attention deficit. I'm not going to repeat every sentence you've missed.