Save Our State will be preventing people from working this Saturday, September 24 at the Laguna Beach Day Labor Center at 1765 Laguna Canyon Rd. from 8:00 a.m. to noon.

At the "No Human Is Illegal" town hall, a Laguna Beach day laborer representative called on those who oppose SOS and anti-migrant racism to join the laborers in confronting SOS and their fascist allies.

At SOS's July appearance at the labor center, neo-nazis standing with SOS unfurled flags with swatiskas and joined in a Hitleresque salute among SOSers and their display of U.S. flags.

Coalition groups from across California have derailed the California Border Auxiliary in Campo and Friends of the Border Patrol in Calexico. In spite of the defeats of the cazamigrantes at the border, SOS continues its efforts to keep migrants from surviving.

Racism and fascism is at our doorstep. Set your alarm clock, drive to Laguna Beach, and stomp it out.

[Photo by El Chivo]

E-mail me with your phone number. Anonymous email is OK. I'll place a group call at 6:30 a.m.

I'm surprised no one has dropped a pack of firecrackers near gun-happy MM/SOS, then just sit back and watch them shoot each other.

Wake up with the Aztlan Cloque . . .

These SOS don't give up. Are they full blown NAZIs now?

I haven't kept up with the SOS since the Minutemen arrived on the border. The Friends of the Border have been foiled in Calexico.

Ratones to all . . .

The fascist members of save our state never thought that we could mobilize and ride on Laguna Beach, they thought they were deep enough in bourgeois territorry that no opposition would show up, they were fuckin wrong!



Now it's time to finish off these Nazi scum, this little punk Turner is going to be sent home crying.

After SOS, were going to finish off Friends of the Border Patrol, then the Minute Clan, then Team America ( Tom Tancredo & Bay Buchanan), then in November were going to deport that fuckin shape shifting reptilian the Governator .

SOS is DOA. What would really kill them is if no one cared enough to show up,. and we need a huge crowd in LA!

Those aren't the SOS people in the picture, that's the White Power crowd trying to tag along to the SOS party. Aren't they called Stormfront? Save Our State isn't a white supremacist group and they don't want those Nazi idiots around, but they have a right to their opinion too, even if it's totally fucked up.

Who uses mob intimidation, threats of violence, verbal assault and abuse, stalking, and outright violation of the civil rights of anyone that holds or expresses opposing views? Who supports and advocates the willful violation of laws when it serves a specific group's racial and cultural separation, and privileged treatment under the law (i.e., they believe that some laws do not apply to their ethnic group)? Who advocates their own racial and cultural separation and supremacy, as well as the subjagation of all others not belonging to their ethnic group? Who shows up to demonstrations wearing hoods and masks, and advocates physical intimidation and physical injury through the use of thrown projectiles? Who believes that their ethnic group is above the law, and the promotion and enforcement of their beliefs is not subject to democratic principals, i.e., they won't build politiical support for democratic change and acceptance of their views, they will either ignore existing law or impose their will upon others through intimidation and violence?

The KKK? Absolutely. Ayrian Nation? Sure.

Add to that La Raza and the rest of the pro-immigration, open-borders crowd ... cut from the same cloth ... they do and believe many of the same basic tenents. They believe in the wonton violation of law and the aggressive violation of anyone's civil rights if it supports their ethnically motivated agenda. Ethnically motivated and forcefully imposing their beliefs upon others ... makes the La Raza crowd just another group of racist facists.

What, don't believe me? Ever tried being a black man and walking through East LA by yourself? I can walk through Santa Monica, Westwood, San Francisco, Salt Lake City, and most whites wouldn't even notice me, let alone confront me. East LA? Riverside? I'd probably get shot. That's racism to me. Forcing me to have my tax dollars used to support social programs for people who violate our laws, and wanting to force me against my will to pay my tax dollars to support even more people by 'opening' the border? That's facism to me.

If you're not reading carefully, Answerla isn't speaking for ANSWER-LA. 100-200 people will be in Laguna Beach at 8:00 a.m. and will get to the ANSWER rally an hour late. ANSWER won't even notice.

I grew up in East Los and my best friend was African American.

I think you are just stereotyping the Mexican Community.

As for La Raza, you don't seem to know that it stands for One Race out of All Races. We call ourselves La Raza because of our mixed Amerind, Euro, African and Asian ancestries.

You really have fallen prey to the racist lies.

"They believe in the wonton violation of law"

Is that like assault with a deadly dumpling?

I go to East LA a lot. No problems. At least not any I don't experience in other urban places. Maybe it's because I'm a guy. I see non-Latino people there besides myself. Maybe it'd be different if I were black, but I doubt it. I see black people too. I heard that African Americans are increasing their presence in ELA. Not a whole lot, but, they're there, walking around and stuff.

Also, what do you mean by Black people can't go into Riverside? There's a whole lot there, and they've been there a long time. The whole IE has a big African American presence. Just go to a mall there or something. A lot of people left the traditionally Af-Am neighborhoods and moved to the IE, but they were there before too, when it was all farms. I've added a link to a Af-Am paper from Riverside.

I think you're talking out of ignorance and prejudice.

"Those aren't the SOS people in the picture, that's the White Power crowd trying to tag along to the SOS party. Aren't they called Stormfront? Save Our State isn't a white supremacist group and they don't want those Nazi idiots around, but they have a right to their opinion too, even if it's totally fucked up."

Are there SOS membership cards? If you don't have one, wil you be ejected from the SOS demo?

No and No.

SoS (and WS racists operating in SOS) have organized demos. Stormfront and another hate group organize around these demos, to go support the SOS. The SOS doesn't go and kick the Nazis out. They accept the organized efforts of self-described fascists. They tell the racists, "hey, can you tone down the racism and not bring out the nazi flags and nazi salutes?" The nazis say "fuck that" and do what they want. They do this because the nazis constitute a large fraction, maybe even a majority, of the SOS demo -- they don't want to be disrespected.

Go read up in Wikipedia about the Stormtroops, and tell me SOS isn't something like that.

SOSers, Why are you still here? We have all kinds of pictures of you and the outspoken members of the National Vanguard Nazi Party posing together with your signs, talking and laughing together, protesting together, meeting over and over all over southern California, and building a hate campaign together. We also have your messages (from your public board) that say that you know they are Nazis and you do not care so long as they are there to fight your issues and they do not let the general public know who they are. What other evidence is sufficient to show your Nazi tendencies? I can even fathom what else could be more damming to you and your cause then what has already been exposed. So long as the National Vanguard only directs their hate at illegal non-Aryans while they are with you, then it is okay to work together. Then, you guys were attacking Puerto Ricans on your website. You idiots can't get over it that there are non-whites who are allowed to come here. You aren't about legal vs. illegal; you are about white privilege. That is why Nazis are drawn to you, and that is why you get along with them so well. The only difference between them and you is that they are honest to the public about where their beliefs lay, while most of you try to hide yours in patriotism, isolationism, or other forms of bs. To be honest, I think your side is right, “there is a war coming”. It is going to be the your racism, intolerance, and hate against a world where it (and you) no longer fit. Go hold your worthless signs with your old white (and wanna be white) friends. The only thing I have to say is all praise to the water bottle thrower, may a million more rain down on your pathetic Asses! Down with the racists! May the world one-day paint the streets red with their memories!!!

We need you there. SOS is finished.

Join the peace. World Wide Movement and Media; Free Food.

Peace

For those arriving recently to this story (or for those looking to read unfiltered perspectives straight from each side), The Red Alert has a lengthy recent interview with SOS founder Joseph Turner and ANSWER's John Beacham:

http://www.theredalert.com/features/saveourstate.htm

You are so full of lies and hypocrisy. All you can do is to hurl accusations at whole groups of people, without proving your case against the singular ones. (as if many of your associates were not involved in the very same behavior)

You make an accusation that a whole group of people are nazis by pointing out the actions of a few. Then you turn right around and criticize SOS for implicating all of one race for the actions of some. One does = all do

That is what a hypocrite calls logic. Those facts that only apply to others.

Yeah...that's where the hypocrisy label is sewn into the lining of your sweatshop purchased shirt, the shoes you are wearing, and those factory made instruments like drums, bullhorns and paint that goes on your signs.

You, Anti-racist, are one of us too, when it comes down to the crimes you have listed. You're one way vision does not allow you to see the stains on your own face. Don't worry too much about it though. It seems to be a common affliction on both sides, placing you among so much company that you could hardly be classified as special.

...not only are there plenty of Afro-American "walking through" East LA, they live here too, as I have taught their children at Hamasaki elementary school, and I never saw any of them get shot!

So if you would like to check out an Aryan supremacist Nazi collaborator, take a look in the mirror!!!

from Joe Turner, self-proclaimed "leader by nature, first and foremost" of SOS. Prob bs, but it says something about the mindset.

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William:

The real answer is, it all depends on the individual. If you want to brawl, it will not be difficult to have that happen.

Our opposition knows that I and others on this board, are more than willing to throw down. I encourage each and everyone of us here to refrain from instigating physical contact, unless your personal space is violated and you feel threatened. Stick to the high ground.

With that said, given our past experiences with Laguna Beach and their do nothing police force, I will be more than prepared. And I know the same can be said for some others who will be there.