Mbeki questions Aids stats

08/02/2004 21:57 - (SA)

Jan-Jan Joubert and Willem Jordaan

Cape Town - President Thabo Mbeki on Sunday questioned the extent of HIV/Aids deaths, because of the absence of statistics on the causes of death in South Africa.

After Mbeki did not focus on HIV/Aids and Zimbabwe in his State of the Nation address on Friday, he was bombarded with questions on these issues in an interview with the SABC on Sunday.

In his reaction, Mbeki said he would address the two issues in a second State address after the election.

Reacting to a question on his personal roll in government's fight against the pandemic, Mbeki indicated that deputy president Jacob Zuma was handling the matter on government's behalf.

He said that the allocation to HIV/Aids in the budget showed that "few countries were doing as much as South Africa".

When asked whether it wouldn't help if he personally showed more empathy with sufferers of the disease, Mbeki retorted that he had said a lot about the issue and that government's stance on the matter remained unchanged.

"Tuberculosis is also a big problem. My doctors say there is a diabetes epidemic. Why does nobody talk about it? There are many health issues."

When it was put to him that these diseases were treatable while HIV/Aids was not, he said: "No, that is not the reason". Interviewer Redi Diareko quoted statistics of the World Health Organisation and exclaimed: "This is our country about which these findings were made. You are our leader ..." Mbeki responded that the WHO could speak for itself, but that South Africa did not have reliable statistics on causes of deaths. He said he wanted something more than mathematical calculations - information on death certificates.

More at... news24.com/News24/South_Africa/Politics/0,6119,2-7-12_1480787,00.html

The general public have the impression that 'AIDS' is a serious problem for teenages in America. The actual CDC figures, which they do their best to bury and disguise, paint a very different picture. If these statistics seem impossible to you then simply follow the direct CDC web site link provided and check for yourself.

CAUCASIAN TEEN 'AIDS' CASES (entire USA) BETWEEN July 1983 and December 2001 = 1211 (male and female).

Source: - CDC

TWELVE HUNDRED AND ELEVEN in nearly 18 years or a mere 67 cases a year.

JUST OVER ONE CAUCASIAN TEEN 'AIDS' CASE PER U.S. STATE A YEAR.

HARDLY AN 'EPIDEMIC!

That figure of 1.28 cases per State is lower than gun shotdeaths in the Mac Arthur Park area of Los Angeles in a single month.

Check for yourself (don't take our word for it) at: - http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats/hasr1302/table7.htm

IN CONTRAST

In the same period people over 60 (caucasian) had 9,338 cases.

Those old folks must be sex mad - Nine times MORE sex than teenagers.

....or could it just be that 'AIDS' is not an std? Surely not? God forbid! Perish the thought!

AIDS Denial Kills

If you want to lowdown on these posts about AIDS, read this article, linked. These AIDS deniers, in case you can't tell, are all heterosexual men promoting sex without condoms.

http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-nyc-editorial/2003-October/003110.html

from the article:

"AIDS is not a myth. That is the plain fact. From looking at what happened in San Francisco with this issue a couple of years back back, we can see that the folks who aggressively promote the "don't use condoms" and "stop taking your medicine" schools of thought are not principled. In fact, there was one well-publicized case where some of these "activists" required restraining orders for stalking and harrassing individuals with whom they disagreed. We can also see this behavior in recent spam on the wire calling non-denialists "Jacobin Pharma-Fags." This is in reference to their theory that the ENTIRE AIDS movement (and medical establishment and governments of third world countries who are creating generic versions of life-saving drugs) have been bought out by pharmaceutical companies. Fascinating theory. Great delivery."