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Censorship and the Stifling of Free Debate at LA IMC

by Garaj Dohr Monday, Feb. 02, 2004 at 2:10 PM

I checked in here to see how things are going. There is some good news and some bad news.

The good news is that the Commentary link is working again. You can't have free discussion and debate if you suppress commentary.

The excuse that a few trolls are ruining the forum is a very very weak justification for censorship and suppression of debate. If you can't stand toe to toe with the trolls then must you run and hide?

The bad news is that the LA IMC censors are continuing to be a bit too heavy handed with hidden posts. This tends to suppress debate on some of the more interesting threads.

(To view the hidden posts go to http://la.indymedia.org/ and scroll down to the very bottom of the page. The link is in the extreme lower right hand corner. They appear to have tried to make it as inconspicuous as possible).

It beats me why they would hide this thread by mymicz? In the lead artcile mymicz raises some interesting points for debate. Why suppress mymicz?

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2004/01/101693.php

And here is a hidden thread that has a pretty interesting title:

LA Indy Peanut Gallery, a War of Words more rational 2004-01-20 3:04 AM

There's only so much hostility I can handle in one night, especially if it's not my own hostility being sprayed onto this site. Read on and meet the peanut gallery of LA Indymedia. (text/plain + 11 comments)

Clicking on this one brings up a blank screen. I guess simply hiding this one wasn't sufficient for our censors. Inability to take criticism by hiding or deleting such posts is a black mark on LA IMC admins.

Will the thread I'm starting here be hidden or deleted too? I would think it would based on what I'm seeing here.

Garaj

I support LA IndyMedia's stand.

by Anarchist Monday, Feb. 02, 2004 at 3:12 PM

The "trolls" are not trolls. They are paid FBI harassers and LA IndyMedia should do all it can to make their activities more difficult. LA IndyMedia's changes have made it a better newswire. I oppose any changes that would lend a hand to trolls.

fresca

by fresca Monday, Feb. 02, 2004 at 4:14 PM

"The "trolls" are not trolls. They are paid FBI harassers"

This is EXACTLY the sort of ninth grade paranoia and self importance that makes all you fools such rich targets for our entertainment.

Bad people make bad jokes

by Parmenides Monday, Feb. 02, 2004 at 5:04 PM

What a joke.

The very forces that want to increase censorship in America and throw us back into some nightmare of feudalism are providing commentary on censorship...

i guess this is just another pearl of wisdom from the conservative movement...another attempt to rewrite history.

to Bush Admirer/Garaj Dohr

by Sheepdog Monday, Feb. 02, 2004 at 10:03 PM

give it up.

You're embarrassing me again.

Originality isn't your long suit, is it?

Psychologically disturbed posters

by Garaj Dohr Tuesday, Feb. 03, 2004 at 12:53 AM

I made a serious post above. The responses thus far have been less than adequate.

Anarchist thinks anyone who disagrees with his is a paid FBI employee (that's rich!).

Parmenides is in denial of the facts as stated in my initial post.

Sheepdog is in a fog (nothing new).

Exactly has his head screwed on correctly and is sober. The only intelligent response thus far.

that was fresca, you idiot

by Sheepdog Tuesday, Feb. 03, 2004 at 1:00 AM

Monkeyboy, you are not your usual sharp as a spoon self this evening.

cops on the newswire

by johnk Tuesday, Feb. 03, 2004 at 1:13 AM

It's possible. The police have created infighting before, and they certainly will again.

I suspect this website isn't quite important enough for them. Besides, if they do drive all the progressives away, how will they keep track of them so easily?

Garaj Dohr

by Dan III Thursday, Feb. 05, 2004 at 4:19 PM
Daniel.Tingstrom@usm.edu

"Psychologically disturbed posters"

Where did you get your degree in psychology?

Out of a Cracker Jack box?

Thankyou Sheepdog

by BushAdmirer177 Friday, Feb. 06, 2004 at 3:51 AM

Thanks for equating me to Garaj Dohr Sheepdog.

I can see from the lead article in this thread that Garaj is a very sharp guy (or gal). Thanks for the complement.

Garaj is certainly correct about the censorship here at IMC LA. However, Garaj is not banned. He/she has complete and free access to LA IMC.

My regular IP account still gets this message whenever i attempt to connect:

___

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /comment_latest.php on this server.

Red Hat Secure/3.0 Server at la.indymedia.org Port 80

___

Therefore I must use anon proxies to connect. It's a minor bother but not a biggie.

I continue to fight the fight because all of you need to be reminded about the great job our President is doing in the war on terror.

We have thrown out terrorist supporting governments in Afghanistan and Iraq. That's major progress. We've got Al Queda's leader hiding in caves (tha't where he belongs). We've upgraded the White House beyond measurement.

This President gets things done. He's not a pushover who puts his tail between his legs and retreats and the first sight of blood (can you say Somalia?).

what an idiot

by Sheepdog Friday, Feb. 06, 2004 at 3:31 PM

you're way too dim to realize that neither one of you in your alternate handles are very bright.

Bush Admirer by any other name is a numbskull.

But don't let me stop you.

OneEyedMan

by KPC Tuesday, Feb. 10, 2004 at 7:49 PM

BushBlower: "I continue to fight the fight "

...now THAT is funny! I can see him now....orange stains on his clenched teeth...cheeto crumbs on the keyboard...continuing to fight the fight...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


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