Visitors traveling to the United States from more than 150 countries are now required to submit to photographing and fingerprinting, while others from mostly European countries are not.

The new U.S. regulations went into effect Monday, allowing instant checks on an immigrant's or visitor's criminal background.

In response, a Brazilian judge ordered that all U.S. citizens be fingerprinted and photographed upon entering Brazil. The change has forced many American citizens to wait for hours at Brazilian airports.

Palestinian kid injured being carried in for emergency treatment after another israeli military raid

This track was exactly what I was looking for, I was going to edit myself but this is already perfect !

Which of the world's nations has accepts the most immigrants?

Historically or currently?

I'm also wondering. . . have any of the children who were the targets of Palestinian homicide bombers ever been photographed? You never see those photographs on this page, nor in the mainstream media.

that's because Palestinian tanks, bulldozers, apache choppers and machine guns, firing bombs, bullets, missles and shells are rolling through "israel" as we speak killing large numbers of israeli civilians, that cause strangers/internationals to travel there and take the thousands of pictures plus provide web hosting out of thier own pockets.

After all the Palestinians do have a multi-million dollar propaganda and multi-billion dollar war machine that our taxes pay for, so why would they need our help and solidarity ?

My understanding is that the "Palestinians" (adopting your quotation convention), such as Hamas, Hezbollah, etc., are using suicide bombers, not tanks and such as you describe.

I admit, I've never been there.

Perhaps you can enlighten me.

I also seem to recall having read that the West, including the US, has sent billions in aid the Palestinian Authority, much of which has been diverted from the people it was intended to help.

Is this what you are referring to?

Hex hijacked a thread? Amazing!

But I'll play along.

From http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/go.asp?MFAH0ia50:

"918 people have been killed by Palestinian violence and terrorism since September 2000.

Between September 29, 2000 and January 1, 2004, Magen David Adom treated a total of 6,069 casualties as follows:

807 killed, 521 severely injured, 742 moderately and 3,999 lightly injured, among them 11 MDA staff members.

(IDF casualties treated by IDF medical personnel are not included in these figures.)

Note: This list also includes 6 Israelis killed abroad in terror attacks directed specifically against Israeli targets, and 3 American diplomatic personnel killed in Gaza."

And I'm willing to bet, T-Bone, the reason you won't find too many pictures of dead and injured Israeli kids is because the Israelis don't wave theri dead children around for PR purposes.

At http://www.ict.org.il/articles/articledet.cfm?articleid=439 you will find an extensive analysis of Palestinian vs. Israelis casualties. The conclusion is this:

"What is significant in all these comparisons is, again, the contrast between the randomness of the pattern of Israeli fatalities and the more non-random distribution of Palestinian deaths. The random distribution is typical of terrorist attacks, which, though sometimes carried out in places frequented by young people, e.g. the Dolphinarium disco attack, may equally target restaurants or buses which are used by a wide spectrum of the population. Some of the most frequent targets of Palestinian terror attacks, such as open-air markets and public buses, are used disproportionately by the most vulnerable segments of society: women, the elderly, and the poor.

The fact that Palestinian deaths caused by Israeli actions do not, as a rule, follow the same pattern would seem to undermine claims that Israel deliberately targets Palestinian civilians."

At http://www.ict.org.il/casualties_project/stats_page.cfm there is a quick breakdown of fatalities from 27 September 2000 through 16 December 2003. It shows that Palestinians are responsible for a greater percentage of non-combatants deaths than is Israel. Not surprising considering their chosen method of "resistance": blowing up public gathering places.

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Looking at the big picture we find them to be a product of the occupation, produced bankrolled and protected by sharon (even to this day)

The diversion of funds smear is classic - right out of the luntz PR guide

Not to mention both are rhetorical statements - again right out of the PR guide;

http://www.reseauvoltaire.net/IMG/pdf/wexner-communication.pdf

" RHETORICAL QUESTIONS TO ASK OPPONENTS OF ISRAEL

How can Yassir Arafat, whom Forbes Magazine says is worth more than three hundred million dollars, claim to be a leader who understands and represents an impoverished people when he has become rich at their expense?

10) Of course rhetorical questions work, don't they? Ask a question to which there is only one answer is hard to lose. It is essential that your communication be laced with rhetorical questions, which is how Jews talk anyway. "

http://www.reseauvoltaire.net/IMG/pdf/wexner-communication.pdf



Shills are so lacking in creativity it's sad..

Even with professional PR propaganda this is the best they can come up with - wording the same rhetoric in different ways just enough so that the average person wouldn't notice it's origin.

I however have thousands of pictures, hundreds of pages of dirt and many damning documents at my fingertips. Playing with me is expensive, both politically and morally as the damage of exposure far exceeds the damage control points gained by using such rhetoric.

"Playing with me is expensive, both politically and morally as the damage of exposure far exceeds the damage control points gained by using such rhetoric.

"

You remain incredibly delusional.

But highly entertaining.

BTW, I've been making you jump through hoops for months now for free.

This is how they found her. Keep in mind that this is due to military attacks which are a constant threat to all the people of Palestine. The reason why there are thousands of pictures is because the military is killing thousands of people - of all walks of life.

Internationals there on the scene don't feel compelled to photograph the occasional explosion in israel, but they DO feel so in Palestine and THIS is what they see

Goes to show what your true attitude is - how committed you really are to the cause.

Then again with holes in your brain being eaten away...

(did I forget to mention the data I have on mad cow disease being much worse than claimed with recent tests showing hundreds of thousands of americans already infected ?)

Keep eating - eat all the beef you can stand to gorge yourself on it dawns on you that a piece of meat the size of a peppercorn is all it takes, that brain and nerve tissue is blown all though the cow's body when they kill them, that they've found the marker for BSE everywhere they've looked, that the processing equipment cross-contaminates all the meat passing through it, etc..

Eat !

You have so fallen for their whole "victim" schtick.

I thought you prided yourself on your intellect.

Looks like you really have no reason to.

But that's okay; you just keep right on defending and celebrating the splodeydopes.

But I wonder if you'd mind riding around in a bus in Gaza all day long? The suicide bombers aren't going to ask you if you support their cause before they yell "Allahu Akhbar!" and push the button, you know. Nope, they're just looking for a big body count. And if a few "internationals" get vaporized, so be it. No big deal; you served your purpose.

Are you willing to sacrifice yourself to the god of political expediency? Do you mind if your death is part of some deranged lunatic's "legitimate resistance to occupation"? You certainly don't seem to mind consigning innocent israelis to the same fate. Oh, that's right...in your mind, there's no such thing as an "innocent" Israeli. Even 18-month-old little girls are violent, genocidal, occupying thugs.

Do me a favor. Actually answer my questions for once.

But you'll understand if I don't hold my breath.

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Yes I'm a fool, because thousands of photographs lie, not the sweet poor innocent israeli government...

While painting a picture (since you lack actual ones I see) of a *rhetorical* situation (my what a surprise!) you fail to provide either impact or evidence.

Then again the PR masters didn't expect thier target audience to be equipped with the truth - and have data to back it up.

Propaganda doesn't work too well when we can see with our own eyes what's really happening.

And we touch on the issue of why would anyone believe a known liar such as yourself anyway ?

While you scramble to goggle up some PR I've already did the research and have the pictures already at hand (this is what I'm doing when I'm not posting here hahahaha)

While you go to ball games I'm busy collecting data, evidence and dirt on you and the people you "support".

Support being actually a trojan for pure self-interest, an issue you could latch onto to find an outlet for your hatred. An issue you didn't even pretend to care about before 9-11 provided an easy excuse to vent.

seeing these Israeli's are baby killers posts, seeing the corpses of children displayed like this, I am reminded of the Naziis. These are the same anti-Semitic attacks used by the Naziis in the 1930's and 1940's to justify their genocide.

We thought that war was won.

And yet, if you look on Syrian TV, you can see anti-Semitic propanganda worse than anything Himmler dreamed up. (see www.memri.org, look under Syria.)

The anti-semites of today use the same tactics as the Nazis:

Don't blame yourself for your condition, and by all means, don't believe your corrupt autocratic leaders: blame the jews -- and eradicate them.

Israel is surrounded by corrupt and repressive regimes in Saudi, Syria, the PA, and, until recently, Iraq (a nation that, in 1990, launched unprovoked SCUD attacks on Israeli cities).

It is the only democracy in the region and accords its 1 million Arab citizens more rights than they have in any Arab nation. . . far more than Jews are accorded in any Arab nation.

And yet, disquised as anti-colonialists, the ideological heirs to the Brown shirts attack her ever day.

what a disgrace.

Characterizations ;

"attack israelis" - WRONG, exposing genoside

"baby killer posts" - WRONG, that assumes the infomation is incorrect, it's not

"posting pictures thereof" (implied propaganda) - WRONG, again the info is true. Propaganda by definition is false (lies)

all colored with the hitler crayon - with every rhetorical assumsion (above) being false this renders moot the smear.

On the other hand I *do* have data that shows connections and complicity between hitler and *zionists*

And zionists are the root of the problem. (as much as they'd like to hide under the skirt of israel/jews)

But this is all out of context anyway as the pictues show, it doesn't matter what you call yourself, what matters are your ACTIONS.

But anything to deny (denial at all costs), anything to distract, decieve, disrupt, destroy...

Just a game to the troll.

You're lucky I bother to comment at all (I only do so when I know I can cause damage through exposure and the actual reasons are connected with IMC partons NOT trolls. You only serve as an example of how to defeat rhetoric for others that DO matter. You give yourself far too much importance in assuming you have any effect other than the principal of changing poison into medicine being applied as a learning tool for others)

When the day comes that you obtain facts and effectively apply them to for once actually prove something, THEN the door opens on the possibility of your attempts at manipulation being successful, but until that time you fill the shoes of the clueless.

Because of the very simple requirement that the position be factual and have merit you'll never scale that vista.

You don't even value the truth much less collect it...

So sure of himself.

So convinced he's right.

Anyone who disagrees is, naturally, a propagandist, a liar, harrassing...and if you try real hard, Hex, you can imagine some death threats in there.

I think your pompousness is the funniest part about you. Anyone who DARES disagree with ol' Hexie is immediately denounced a s a liar. Hee hee! So much for having an open, inquisitive mind, huh? You see, Hex, the way it';s supposed to work is this: you gather data and then form your conclusion...not the other way around. That's your problem.

I know I'm wasting my time, but I just gotta tell you: I don't go to ballgames. Of course, your analysis of IPs and posts "prove" otherwise, doesn't it?

Tell me, Hex: Was six million enough?

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this is the result when the truth means nothing - there IS no truth and everything is but word games.

While the troll excrement is rich in personal attack, the "no one's really right" (truth doesn't really exist) and memory holes (or brain holes) -



notice the lack of proof, lack of infomation or data. Lack of pictures...

We're treated insted to more schoolyard screeching about - me ? Not the issue "g-d" forbid, because the full extent of his disability would exposed.

So having fallen down the steep slope of the unreal, he's unable to stand up. So his solution is to throw snowballs (mud) at the one's who are standing (for truth) to disable them as well and join him in his dysfunctional squirming on the ground, much like a worm does. A worm who's time has passed, preserved in a glass bottle on display. Soaking in alcohol. (brainbabble) I guess the fluid fills in the holes the BSE leaves behind ?

(ignore that fact too - the true extent of the mad cow problem showing hundreds of thousands of americans *already infected* with BSE)

But who want's to think about thier brain being eaten away from within ? Not a pretty thought. Better ignore that data too and attack the researcher insted.

Why not - at least it's a consistant tactic. We'll know he's really lost it when he can't even do that I guess...

Here's what happens when the truth of islamic terrorism is denied and Hex's subhuman heroes continue to be lionized and defended by the fascist left.

Hex's lies of the noble and oppressed "palestinian" is the very TNT these animals strap to themselves.







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Sub-human, animals...

Funny I don't recall calling *anyone* such names.

But putting words in other people's mouths is the expected smear from one's who lack the facts.

And where's the Palestinian tanks, bulldozers, choppers, missiles, and wall ?

You can't show pictures of what doesn't exist, but you can show the same ONE (1) picture again I see.

While I have thousands...

Here's what happens when the truth of islamic terrorism is denied and Hex's subhuman heroes continue to be lionized and defended by the fascist left.

Hex's lies of the noble and oppressed "palestinian" is the very TNT these animals strap to themselves.





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Say, Hex, let's go on a little bus ride, okay?

What's that? You got some cables to make? Some CDs to burn?

Oh. Okay.

Hey, looky here:

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/380674.html

"The document reveals that the suicide bomb attack at the Dolphinarium, in June 2001, where 21 Israeli teenagers were killed, was meant to torpedo American efforts to renew security coordination between Israel and the PA, coordination that was viewed as a direct threat to the Hamas.

"The attack took place after two specific security meetings in Ramallah and Gaza between Israeli and Palestinian security officials with the participation of American officials who were trying to renew security coordination between the sides," says the document.

Similarly the document refers to the Hamas attack on Jerusalem's Sbarro restaurant in August 2001, "which came in the midst of great efforts to end the shooting incidents in the territories. The political atmosphere included an initiative for sending international observers to Bethlehem and Rafah and implementing the Mitchell report and a day before the attack there was a meeting between Yasser Arafat and the American consul in Jerusalem, which was a positive meeting."

Hmmm. Could it be, could it POSSIBLY be, that Hex's heroes in Hamas don't WANT peace is the Middle East? Could it be that all they want is dead Israelis?

No wonder Hex likes 'em so much. And he apparently doesn't think six million was enough, since he didn't deny it.

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"If you tell a lie enough times, it becomes accepted as truth, and, the bigger the lie, the more likely it is to be accepted." ...Joseph Goebbles, Hitler's National Socialist Minister of Propaganda



"sub-human", "animals", "heros"

also called rhetorical statements

http://www.reseauvoltaire.net/IMG/pdf/wexner-communication.pdf

Luntz Wexner Analysis

The Luntz Research Companies & The Israel Project - April 2003 1 WEXNER ANALYSIS:

ISRAELI COMMUNICATION PRIORITIES 2003

"RHETORICAL QUESTIONS TO ASK OPPONENTS OF ISRAEL

Of course rhetorical questions work, don't they? Ask a question to which there is only one answer is hard to lose. It is essential that your communication be laced with rhetorical questions, which is how Jews talk anyway. "

I still don't see the thousands of pictures of PALESTINIAN tanks, bulldozers, choppers in israeli towns killing israeli civilians

"I still don't see the thousands of pictures of PALESTINIAN tanks, bulldozers, choppers in israeli towns killing israeli civilians "

Beyond the fact that the "palestinian" people will never get their act together enough to even be able to operate such equipment, the real truth is that they don't need any of these things to continue their methodical racist terrorist campaign.

Isreal, of course, requires these machines (nice shot of the beatiful Merkava btw) to defend herself against the terrorism of "palestine"

Make no mistake. EVERY death on both sides is a direct result of your heroes in Hamas, Islamic Jihad (c'mon, the name alone is a red flag) et.al.

If "palestinian" terrorism stops, Isarel has no need to retailiate and defend. It's as simple as that. The ball is, and always has been in the arabs' court.

Are you saying the poor oppressed Palestinian patriots DIDN'T blow up that bus...and dozens like it?

Well, now. Gosh darn.

Well, then, you wouldn't mind riding one in Gaza all day then, would you? Maybe stop by for a pizza in the evening? Dancing afterward?

Because, of course, the poor oppressed Palestinian patriots have NEVER blow up busses, pizza parlors, or discos. It's all just a Zionist (spit!) plot to garner sympathy, isn't it?

"I still don't see the thousands of pictures of PALESTINIAN tanks, bulldozers, choppers in israeli towns killing israeli civilians"

And you won't, stupid. The Pals' weapon of choice is a vest with lots of pockets, a few kilos of Semtex, and an extremist convinced he's gonna get 72 virgins to enjoy in the afterlife when he kills Jews.

In other words, a dumb bomb. Or, as I like to call 'em, splodydope.

And I feel I must point out this, too: Since you're American, despite your rabid and blind devotion to their cause, they wouldn't bat an eyelash about blowing YOU up too, Hex. Some people just have no gratitude, huh?

nonanarchist

HUMOR BREAK -- IMC REGULARS PLEASE DISREGARD AS YOU ARE NOT EQUIPPED TO ENJOY ANY FORM OF HUMOR

Did you hear about the latest setback that the Palestinian Navy had with the development of a torpedo?

He's still learning how to swim.

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An old Palestinian couple is sitting on the sofa looking through a family album...

The father says, "They were so cute, I really miss those kids."

The mother says, "Yes, they blow up so fast."

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Q. what's the difference between a truck load of marbles and a truckload of dead american babies?

A. you cannot unload marbles with a pitchfork.

Q. what is blue and squirms?

A. daveman's children in a plastic bag.

Nonanarchist and fresca are looking down a Bagdad alley at a pile of bloody female remains holding the still warm chain saw. " don't you think we should have raped her first?" asks fresca.

Yuk yuk