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by uu
Sunday, Dec. 21, 2003 at 1:02 AM
so
they laim al qaeda smuggles hashish.so? what about the deadly damaging 'psyhiatric' drugs that are routinely forced on people in THIS country.life damaging chemicals.hashish is virtually harmless!!!
by Bigfoot
Sunday, Dec. 21, 2003 at 1:12 AM
I'll take your word for it....
Don't bogart that joint, man.
by SkullnBonz
Sunday, Dec. 21, 2003 at 2:00 AM
Ah, ha! Those government produced TV ads linking recreational drug users to terrorism were right on the money! It's the Tommy Chong - Osama bin Laden connection, all right. Pass the pipe, please.
by Barney
Sunday, Dec. 21, 2003 at 2:16 AM
It works for the Taliban. They're only too happy to screw up western kids and get paid for it.
by SkullnBonz
Sunday, Dec. 21, 2003 at 2:59 AM
Just for your information, Barney, the Taliban were anti-drug. They eliminated almost all opium production in the areas of Afghanistan under their control. Now that the "Northern Alliance" and the CIA are in charge, more drugs than ever are being produced there. If you'd do a little research, you'd find that wherever the CIA goes, the drugs are sure to follow.
by Barney
Sunday, Dec. 21, 2003 at 3:23 AM
The Taliban denounced the opium trade while getting rich on the proceeds. .
by ? Who
Sunday, Dec. 21, 2003 at 8:01 AM
Why do you think that with a shrinking job market, declining consumer spending and growing debt that the stock market seems to be in a faultering rise? Major money laundering through banking cartels who rake in profits of opium, cocain and weapons. We the people, reap the results in growing militarization of police and steet violence. Brave New World meets 1984. Please pass the splif.
by SkullnBonz
Sunday, Dec. 21, 2003 at 8:05 AM
No, Mr Barney, the Taliban actually cut heroin production drastically. Now that the US and its warlord allies are back in the saddle, the Afghan opium crop is bigger than ever.
excerpt from:
Warlords set to reap profits of poppy harvest from The Times MONDAY 26 NOVEMBER 2001
"the United Nations Drug Control Programme said that the Taleban decree had virtually stopped opium production in Afghanistan, reducing the outflow from 3,328 tonnes to 188 tonnes in one year."
http://www.opioids.com/afghanistan/warlords.html
by SkullnBonz
Sunday, Dec. 21, 2003 at 8:20 AM
? who wrote:
"Why do you think that with a shrinking job market, declining consumer spending and growing debt that the stock market seems to be in a faultering rise? Major money laundering through banking cartels who rake in profits of opium, cocain and weapons. We the people, reap the results in growing militarization of police and steet violence. Brave New World meets 1984. Please pass the splif."
You got it.
Drugs as Currency
"Who can compete with the government?" - John Gotti, Jr. http://www.narconews.com/narcodollars3.html
by ljkujuyt
Sunday, Dec. 21, 2003 at 11:38 AM
...perhaps you should stop buying it.
nonanarchist
by farmer
Sunday, Dec. 21, 2003 at 3:33 PM
with the usual piggy noises
by lkjnyv
Sunday, Dec. 21, 2003 at 5:09 PM
...that the poster calling himself "farmer" holds real farmers in contempt for using agrichemicals, regards where they live and work as "flyover country", and has never gotten his hands dirty in the soil any more than it takes to transplant a pot of geraniums.
So, Farm Boy...you ever even BEEN to a farm? Gotta warn you...your Birkenstocks are liable to get a little dirty.
by ? Who
Sunday, Dec. 21, 2003 at 7:03 PM
dickman and the other keyboard heros don't have feelings. They're too busy at the government slop bucket.
by lkliuiyb
Monday, Dec. 22, 2003 at 3:26 AM
"dickman and the other keyboard heros don't have feelings. They're too busy at the government slop bucket."
Huh? What's that supposed to mean? It makes no sense at all. One sentence has absolutely nothing to do with the other.
Let me help:
"dickman and the other keyboard heros don't have feelings. They turn in their hearts when they sign on with the government."
See? THAT makes sense, because the two sentences are relevant to each other.
Sheesh, I'm reduced to insulting myself because you morons can't even do THAT right.
Have I mentioned today how stupid you are?
by good job
Monday, Dec. 22, 2003 at 4:16 AM
Have I mentioned today how stupid you are?
by SkullnBonz
Monday, Dec. 22, 2003 at 12:50 PM
ljkujuyt wrote:
"If you guys oppose heroin production so much... ...perhaps you should stop buying it."
What? Are you crazy? Junk IS Amerika, and Amerika is junk! It's our patriotic duty to buy junk, and lots of it. We can't risk breaking the CIA and Wall Street's personal piggybank, can we? That would destroy everything this country stands for, you poor deluded dupe. God bless the Northern Alliance, and God bless American junk. "Who can compete with the government?" - John Gotti, Jr. http://www.narconews.com/narcodollars3.html
by lknycrz
Monday, Dec. 22, 2003 at 1:12 PM
Me? Deluded?
Did you actually read what you wrote? Are you drinking the bong water again?
Poor sap.
Oh, and I especially like the way you spell "Amerika" with the k. It really shows the shallowness of your political pohilosophy.
Maybe someday, if you try very hard, you can spell it "AmeriKKKa".
by SkullnBonz
Monday, Dec. 22, 2003 at 8:25 PM
lknycrz crzzed:
"Oh, and I especially like the way you spell "Amerika" with the k. It really shows the shallowness of your political pohilosophy.
Maybe someday, if you try very hard, you can spell it "AmeriKKKa"."
No, that would be against my personal pohilosophy. We Pohilosophists (similar to, but completely different from Theosophy) are forbidden by He Whose Name Can Only Be Written On Bathroom Walls to use the same letter three times in a row. You should know that, but you're probably too high on CIA drugs to remember. Only four shopping days left before Saturnalia - buy more junk and be proud.
"Who can compete with the government?" - John Gotti, Jr. http://www.narconews.com/narcodollars3.html
by Barney
Tuesday, Dec. 23, 2003 at 1:58 AM
They taxed it at 10%. They also stockpiled huge stores of it and then banned Opium production in order to be seen taking part in the war on drugs and thus get foreign aid.
However, their banning of Opium production had no effect on supply, it just made the price go up and the Taliban made a killing.
http//:www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v02/n288/a01.html
www.fff.org/freedom/fd0304d.asp
by SkullnBonz
Wednesday, Dec. 24, 2003 at 12:33 PM
Barney wrote:
"They taxed it at 10%. They also stockpiled huge stores of it and then banned Opium production in order to be seen taking part in the war on drugs and thus get foreign aid. "
How do you know they stockpiled huge stores of it? Because unidentified "US officials" said so?
"However, their banning of Opium production had no effect on supply, it just made the price go up and the Taliban made a killing."
I think it probably did have an effect on supply, and that's one of the reasons we overthrew them. (In addition to the natural gas pipeline) I don't see anything in your cited articles to contradict what I wrote earlier. The bottom line is that more heroin's being produced under US occupation than ever before.
Bush’s Opium Boom by James Bovard, Posted: May 28 2003
Last year saw what is probably the single biggest one-year increase in opium production in world history. Since the Bush administration toppled the Taliban regime, opium production in Afghanistan has increased from 185 tons in 2001 to 3,700 tons in 2002 — an increase of twentyfold.
AFGHAN OPIUM TRADE GROWS ANEW
Taliban's Demise Has Many Turning To Poppy Production For Cash.
The demise of the Taliban, the hard-line regime pushed out of power by U.S.-led coalition forces, also meant the end of a ban on poppy cultivation. The Taliban's prohibition, begun in 2000, resulted in a 96 percent drop in Afghanistan's production of raw opium, from more than a million pounds in 1999 to 40,600 pounds last year, according to the United Nations Drug Control Program.
U.S. officials say their evidence suggests that the Taliban's ban was created to drive up prices on the world market and that despite the prohibition the Taliban, its al Qaeda allies and Afghanistan's economy profited from opium production and sales of surpluses from earlier harvests.
Today, without a strong central government, the cultivation of poppies is a free-for-all.
by Barney
Wednesday, Dec. 24, 2003 at 4:02 PM
So that's why they invaded. I see it all now. So the WTC attack was staged and OBL was sent to Afghanistan to set up a training camp so that we could invade.
Am I nearer the truth now??
by SkullnBonz
Thursday, Dec. 25, 2003 at 3:19 AM
Barney wrote:
"So that's why they invaded. I see it all now. So the WTC attack was staged and OBL was sent to Afghanistan to set up a training camp so that we could invade.
Am I nearer the truth now??"
You tell me. Unocal (among others) wanted the pipeline, and the need for a "new Pearl Harbor" - to rally public support for an imperialist war - was being written about by individuals now serving in the Bush administration several years before 9-11. Mere coincidence, right?
US HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES FEBRUARY 12, 1998
STATEMENT OF JOHN J. MARESCA, VICE PRESIDENT OF INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS, UNOCAL CORPORATION
"Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It's nice to see you again. I am John Maresca, vice president for international relations of the Unocal Corporation. Unocal, as you know, is one of the world's leading energy resource and project development companies. I appreciate your invitation to speak here today. I believe these hearings are important and timely. I congratulate you for focusing on Central Asia oil and gas reserves and the role they play in shaping U.S. policy. I would like to focus today on three issues. First, the need for multiple pipeline routes for Central Asian oil and gas resources. Second, the need for U.S. support for international and regional efforts to achieve balanced and lasting political settlements to the conflicts in the region, including Afghanistan." ******************************** The Deadly Pipeline War US Afghan Policy Driven By Oil Interests
Caspian oil, landlocked between Russia, Iran and former Soviet republics, presents formidable transport challenges. Afghanistan is strategically located near the Caspian Sea. In 1994, the U.S. State Department and Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency sought to install a stable regime in Afghanistan to enhance the prospects for Western oil pipelines. They financed, armed and trained the Taliban in its civil war against the Northern Alliance.
In 1995, California-based UNOCAL proposed the construction of an oil pipeline from Turkmenistan, south through Afghanistan and Pakistan, to the Arabian Sea. Yasushi Akashi, U.N. Under-Secretary General for Humanitarian Affairs, was critical of "outside interference in Afghanistan" in 1997, which, he said, "is now all related to the battle for oil and gas pipelines. The fear is that these companies and regional powers are just renting the Taliban for their own purposes." http://www.commondreams.org/views01/1208-04.htm
excerpts from "The Grand Chessboard," by Zbigniew Brzezinski, 1998 (Founder, Council on Foreign Relations)
"For America, the chief geopolitical prize is Eurasia... Now a non-Eurasian power is preeminent in Eurasia - and America's global primacy is directly dependent on how long and how effectively its preponderance on the Eurasian continent is sustained." (p.30)
"The attitude of the American public toward the external projection of American power has been much more ambivalent. The public supported America's engagement in World War II largely because of the shock effect of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor." (pp 24-5)
"...the pursuit of power is not a goal that commands popular passion, except in conditions of a sudden threat or challenge to the public's sense of domestic well-being. The economic self-denial (that is, defense spending) and the human sacrifice (casualties, even among professional soldiers) required in the effort are uncongenial to democratic instincts. Democracy is inimical to imperial mobilization." (p.35)
"Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multi-cultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstance of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat." (p. 211) ********************************
Two years ago a project set up by the men who now surround George W Bush said what America needed was "a new Pearl Harbor". Its published aims have, alarmingly, come true. By John Pilger 12 Dec 2002
The threat posed by US terrorism to the security of nations and individuals was outlined in prophetic detail in a document written more than two years ago and disclosed only recently. What was needed for America to dominate much of humanity and the world's resources, it said, was "some catastrophic and catalysing event - like a new Pearl Harbor". The attacks of 11 September 2001 provided the "new Pearl Harbor", described as "the opportunity of ages". http://www.globalissues.org/Geopolitics/WarOnTerror/NewPearlHarbor.asp
PNAC.info - Exposing the Project for the New American Century An effort to investigate, analyze, and expose the Project for the New American Century, and its plan for a "unipolar" world. http://www.pnac.info/blog/archives/000012.html
by Barney
Thursday, Dec. 25, 2003 at 3:30 AM
It's cooking nicely now.
Tell me, do you think 9/11 was organised by agents of the US government?
by SkullnBonz
Thursday, Dec. 25, 2003 at 10:21 AM
Barney sez:
"It's cooking nicely now."
Your brain?
"Tell me, do you think 9/11 was organised by agents of the US government?"
Tell me, why is Bush still obstructing the 9-11 investigation? Because he has nothing to hide? The families of many WTC victims want to know.
'BLOOD MONEY': FAMILIES SUE US, REJECT GOVT'S 9/11 'BRIBE'... http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1223-02.htm
"Two years ago a project set up by the men who now surround George W Bush said what America needed was "a new Pearl Harbor". Its published aims have, alarmingly, come true." John Pilger, 12 Dec 2002 http://www.globalissues.org/Geopolitics/WarOnTerror/NewPearlHarbor.asp
by fresca
Thursday, Dec. 25, 2003 at 4:27 PM
S and b...I'm not sure whqat name you've posted under in the past (this goofy site does not seem to attract many new readers) but you are definetely campaigning hard for "utter fool of the week" award.
"Tell me, why is Bush still obstructing the 9-11 investigation? Because he has nothing to hide? The families of many WTC victims want to know. "
So you DO believe that 9-11 was committed by US agents?
And you can't think of any reasons why information regarding 9-11 might be deemed to sensitive to release.
That's called sheer mental illness with a chaser of stupid.
Oh, we're gonna have fun with you.
by SkullnBonz
Thursday, Dec. 25, 2003 at 11:24 PM
fresca asked:
"And you can't think of any reasons why information regarding 9-11 might be deemed to sensitive to release?"
Oh, I can think of tons of reasons for a coverup.
UnansweredQuestions.Org thinking for ourselves http://www.unansweredquestions.org/
"That's called sheer mental illness with a chaser of stupid."
We'll see.
"Oh, we're gonna have fun with you."
We'll see.
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