NOAA-National Weather Service (NWS) has a staff exceeding 5000 federal employees within the United States, most having direct contact to media, other agencies, and the public.

On Nov 7 (evening) at the NWS collocated Twin Cities Weather Forecast Office(WFO)/North Central River Forecast Center(NCRFC) located in Chanhassen, Minnesota, the Senior Meteorologist on duty for the WFO said:

"The NWS is telling people that there is no global warming problem".

The statement was made in reply to my question regarding what is NWS telling people about global warming. I am a Senior Hydrologist with the NCRFC (area of responsibility includes all or parts of nine states in the Midwest and Northern Great Plains).

The Senior Meteorologist and I had been discussing my recent paper that shows regional climate warming trends for earlier snowmelt runoff and increasing dewpoints in the Upper Midwest and Northern Great Plains, based on 100 years of streamflow runoff records (high quality United States Geological Survey (USGS) mean daily flow data).

I prepared a paper & presented it at the NWS-Climate Prediction Center and Desert Research Institute Workshop (20-23 Oct 2003 in Sparks, Nevada). Links to my paper (final draft: 11 September 2003) which is kept on the Minnesotan's For Sustainability website can be found at message number 264 of ClimateArchive, at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ClimateArchive/message/264

Earlier Snowmelt Runoff paper and images of Fossil Butte & Green River

Formation:

Large image of Fossil Butte National Monument in southwest WY at:

http://www.ucimc.org/newswire/display/14091/index.php

Large image of Green River Formation in northeast Utah at:

http://arizona.indymedia.org/news/2003/11/13572.php

Large image of my poster as it was presented at:

http://cleveland.indymedia.org/news/2003/11/7204.php

My paper on Earlier Snowmelt Runoff, including text, figures, & data are

on the Minnesotan's For Sustainability website, accessed by the link at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ClimateArchive/message/264

Pat Neuman

npat1@juno.com

Chanhassen, Minnesota

The post is a little turgid, but the data is worth digging up.

The data indicates that we're in a warming trend. The air is getting warmer sooner.

The NWS must have a different agenda than the group this scientist is in.

I hope some see's my 12 19 article