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Sunday, September 28

9:00 – 9:30 am
Berkley, California
Event: Interview – KPFA Radio – Sunday Salon
Location: 1929 Martin Luther King Jr Way, Berkeley 510-848-4425
Interviewer: Larry Bensky

12:00 noon – 1:30 pm
Los Angeles, California
Event: Yoga Expo
Location: Los Angeles Convention Center,

2:00 – 3:00 pm
Woodley Park, California
Event: World Fest – Vegan Festival
Location: Woodley Park, Woodley Avenue, Van Nuys, CA just off of Interstate 405

3:30 - 6:30 pm
Santa Monica, California
Meet the Candidate at the Private Home of Joan Goldsmith and Ken Cloke
RSVP 310-399-4776

6:00 – 9:00 pm (DK speaks at 7:30 pm)
La Verne, California
BBQ with music and door prizes, at the home of Bill and Martha Smith
Location: 1936 Sixth Street, La Verne, CA RSVP 909-392-9365

Monday, September 29

8:00 – 9:30 am
Westwood, California
Event: Breakfast Meeting with the GLBT Community
Location: The Regency Club, The Library Room, 10900 Wilshire Blvd. (Wilshire and Westwood Blvds), Westwood, CA 310-208-1443

Dear Mr. Vice President:

On July 21, 2003 , we sent a letter to you inquiring about your role in the dissemination of the disinformation that Iraq purchased uranium from Niger . We asked you ten questions relating to your direct personal visits to CIA 's Iraq analysts; your request for an investigation of the Niger uranium claim that resulted in an investigation by a former U.S. ambassador, and your several high-profile public assertions about Iraq 's alleged pursuit of nuclear weapons. To date, we have not received your response to our inquiries....

Follow link for complete letter.

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/cgi-bin/MasterPFP.cgi?doc=http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/092503_go_after_cheney.html

**********Ziggy thanks for everything**********

Kucinich and the Politics of Nonviolence

Roderick T. Long, LewRockwell.com

In Thursday night's Democratic presidential candidates' debate (yes, I watched it -- masochism, I guess), Rep. Dennis Kucinich suddenly declared himself a libertarian.

No, he didn't use the L-word. But he announced his plan, should he be elected, to create a "Department of Peace" to bring about a "transformation of our society" by "making non-violence an organizing principle."

See, all along I'd been misinterpreting him. Kucinich's campaign website ( http://www.kucinich.us/) gives a fairly thorough rundown of the programs he'd like to enact. These include "massive public works to rebuild our cities, our water systems, our public transportation systems, our schools, our parks, our public energy systems," "ample free television time for candidates," "break-up of the media monopolies," a "regulatory structure which puts a ceiling on drug company profits," restrictions on political advertising, a Federal charter of corporate responsibility ( http://www.mises.org/blogDetail.asp?control=842), and a "financial commitment to providing healthy drinking water to all the world's people." He also wants to "strengthen and enforce air and water regulation," "empower farmers in the marketplace by providing incentives to join a collective bargaining unit," and "bring suit in federal court if an agribusiness doesn't bargain in good faith." He is particularly insistent that "All water shall be considered to be forever in the public domain" (an interesting proposal, given that every human being is 70% water).

Now all this time I've been unfair to the man. I'd been assuming that he wanted to use the coercive power of the State to do all these things. So naturally I'd taken him to be an advocate of massive increases of violence in society -- since laws are, after all, backed up by governmental force. Now it turns out, however, that Kucinich is a man committed to nonviolence, a man who wants to make nonviolence an "organizing principle" of our society. But just as the State represents violence as an organizing principle of society, so the free market represents nonviolence -- mutual consent -- as an organizing principle of society. If Kucinich is the enthusiast for nonviolence that he claims to be, then he can only be a libertarian.

I infer, then, that Kucinich can't really want to enforce that laundry list of pet projects that he advertises on his website. That would be violence, after all. As Ludwig von Mises writes:

It is important to remember that government interference always means either violent action or the threat of such action. The funds that a government spends for whatever purposes are levied by taxation. And taxes are paid because the taxpayers are afraid of offering resistance to the tax gatherers. They know that any disobedience or resistance is hopeless. As long as this is the state of affairs, the government is able to collect the money that it wants to spend. Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning. Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Since nobody with Kucinich's reverence for nonviolence could possibly want to increase "violent action or the threat of such action," he plainly couldn't seriously be calling for his projects to be governmentally enforced. He must instead be trying to persuade people to implement these programs voluntarily.

( http://www.mises.org/humanaction/chap27sec2.asp)

The only alternative would be to assume that Kucinich regards, or expects us to regard, governmental edicts "as though they were incantations, passing directly from decree to result, without the inconvenience of means." ( http://www.mises.org/fullstory.asp?control=804) And what sensible person could be so deluded?

September 27, 2003

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Roderick T. Long is Associate Professor of Philosophy at Auburn University; author of Reason and Value: Aristotle versus Rand; Editor of the Libertarian Nation Foundation periodical Formulations; and an Adjunct Scholar of the Ludwig von Mises Institute. He received his Ph.D. from Cornell in 1992, and maintains the website Praxeology.net, as well as the web journal In a Blog's Stead.

wow

pretzel logic!

wow

Don't really matter.

Kucinich don't stand a chance