Perhaps Nonanarchist is not aware, but I have a case number for an investigation of KOBE with the Defense Intelligence Agency. Perhaps I will post the case number here in order to assist with this matter should it continue.

Please send emails to the Defense Intelligence Agency (the more the better) informing them that an active member of KOBE is spamming this newswire. The DIA is interested in this matter. They have allocated investigators to the case already. Send emails concerning "nonanarchist" posting from Shaw Air Force Base to:

dia.popa@misc.pentagon.mil

Send them a link to this comment where he admits to using US Government resources to spam this wire:

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/09/83288_comment.php#83429

Also, send them this link for more information on KOBE:

http://www.stop-fascism.org/george_bullock.htm

Alternatively, telephone them at this number:

703-695-0071

Or fax them at this number:

703-614-3692

It cracks me up when the "anarchists" start reporting others to the very government they seek to destroy..

When you anarchists rule the world then who will you report us to?

And we watch while eating pop-corn.

You guys are priceless!

That "admission" was posted by someone impersonating me.

And you fell for it?

HA HA HA HA HA HA!

Furthermore, I am not a member of KOBE, no matter how much you want your pointy little head to believe it.

Man, you clown just can't tolerate any criticism of the cesspool you use for a political philosophy, can you?

What are you afraid of?

By the way, DeVoy...if anyone here can be said to be spamming the newswire, it's you and your KOBE witchhunt, which, from what I've seen, is far more personal than political.

Now, you will say I'm Ned Lyle.

You're so predictable.

Live with it.

Live with it.

You forget:

You're the anarchist.

YOU'RE under investigation.

You're like the idiot who calls the cops because some guy sold him bad weed.

Being an anarchist is not illegal. Using US Government resources to harass a newswire is, at the least, not condoned by your commander.

No.

Just political discussion.

What are you afraid of?

If we are indicted for being non-anarchists by the government and if the government tries to send us to jail for life then we better help the anarchists!!!!

Because then there will be no government and we will not be imprisoned because there is no more government and we can form our own anarchist movement to protest against the new government the other anarchists formed to replace the government that arrested us for protesting against the anarchist movement!

Do you think all that would fit on a bumper sticker?

Now, answer my question. If you oppose our philosophy, what are you doing using a newswire based on the anarchist philosophy? Since all of your discussions consist of insults and harassment, it is clear that your only purpose is to harass. Why would we wish to let someone into our house if their purpose is to harass? Surely, you don't believe that you own LA IndyMedia, do you?

...before Devoy starts putting it on bumper stickers.

...is an anarchist newswire?

Please post relevant information from IMC pages...not your own commentary.

Sounds like you think YOU own Indymedia.

Now, answer MY question: What are you afraid of?

If you have sworn to uphold the US Constitution, why are you not raising arms against George Bush and John Ashcroft? They have destroyed the Constitution. Name one anarchist that has harmed the Constitution and explain exactly how that anarchist has harmed the Constitution.

"Global Indymedia Mission Statement

Indymedia is a collective of independent media organizations and hundreds of journalists offering grassroots, non-corporate coverage. Indymedia is a democratic media outlet for the creation of radical, accurate, and passionate tellings of truth."

I can't see where it says "anarchists only newswire"

That is the passionate truth.....

"radical, accurate, and passionate tellings of truth"

Answer me that.

While you're at it, answer my other question.

If you have sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States, why are you not taking up arms against George Bush and John Ashcroft. Bush and Ashcroft are violation the Constitution. You are sworn to protect it. Explain why you have violated your oath.

While you are at it, explain exactly what anarchist has harmed the Constitution and exactly how that anarchist has harmed the Constitution.

Stop avoiding the question.

...blah blah blah.

I've heard this before from you guys, with never anything to back it up.

Hint: just because you say it, don't make it so.

"Name one anarchist that has harmed the Constitution and explain exactly how that anarchist has harmed the Constitution."

None. Never happened; never will. That's because they have no plan, thay have no courage. All they do is post meaningless drivel on the internet, talking about what a Utopia it would be, and sell bumperstickers on street corners. That'll show The Man!

Now, how can you imply that conversion of America to anarchy would leave the Constitution intact? That document clearly specifies the republic in which we live. To do away with that government would necessarily require the overthrow of the Constitution, which I have sworn to pretect and defend from all enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC.

And I take that oath VERY seriously.

What are you afraid of?

Why can't you take criticism of your political philosophy?

Is it because you know it just can't stand exposure to the light of day?

Let's face it. You have no ethics and no belief system. You are merely a harasser. You are here only to spam the newswire. I am here to oppose you in your mission to harass the newswire. Why? Because I feel the newswire is worth defending. I've already seen the damage you've done to other newswires and forums.

Now, you have violated your oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States. Since you have failed to uphold your oath, you are dishonorable.

Since you spend your time harassing people, you are also mentally ill.

Get help for your compulsion and get a life.

Main Entry: 1rad·i·cal

Pronunciation: 'ra-di-k&l

Function: adjective

Etymology: Middle English, from Late Latin radicalis, from Latin radic-, radix root -- more at ROOT

Date: 14th century

(2) :d : designed to remove the root of a disease or all diseased tissue ( i.e. anarchists)

"If you have sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States" Where did I say that???

Did that answer your question stephen?

"Is it because you know it just can't stand exposure to the light of day?"

I am in the light of day. I put my name on my websites and I put my name on my articles. I stand out in the open and discuss my beliefs on the street with people. I am completely open.

You, on the other hand, hide behind anonymity while sniping at people. It is you that avoids the light of day, not me.

You know that what I say is true.

Now, dishonorable failure that cannot lift a finger to live up to his oath to defend the Constitution, go back under the rock that you slid our from under. You have no honor, no ethics, no life, and no worth.

RNP is even less worth communicating with.

Nonanarchist stated in another thread (and in this thread) that he has sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution. He has failed to live up to his oath. That makes him dishonerable.

On the other hand, I took such an oath and I am defending the Constitution. No, I don't expect to achieve anarchy within my lifetime. Few Christians expect to achieve the Kingdom of God within their life times. That does not make them un-Christian.

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2003/03/57910.html What has your post on UK-imc got to do with the UK??? You are the IMC spammer. The Circle is Complete Stephen DeVoy, 20.03.2003 09:41 Son of a mass murderer, grandson of a Nazi collaborator, installed by a corrupt Supreme Court, and empowered by yet another Reichstag fire, the new dictator orders the dogs of war to ravage and murder the innocent. The Circle is Complete Author: Stephen DeVoy Date: March 20, 2003 We've all heard that history repeats itself. So it does... We have come full circle in one of history's greatest ironies. Not long ago, a fascist regime stood before the world and waged a war of naked aggression. The fascist regime robbed a portion of its population of their human rights, placed a willing population under a police state's boot, and attacked the other nations of the world. That nation, Hitler's Germany, was opposed by a coalition of states. After the deaths of millions of innocent human beings, Hitler's Germany was defeated by an array of nations, one of which was the United States of America. Today we are at the beginning of the same story. The actors have changed roles. The good guys are now the bad guys. The victims are now the monsters and once again an innocent people's blood is spilled for the selfish interests of a racist ideology. Son of a mass murderer, grandson of a Nazi collaborator, installed by a corrupt Supreme Court, and empowered by yet another Reichstag fire, the new dictator orders the dogs of war to ravage and murder the innocent. The Siamese twin of Nazism, born joined at the hip with its sibling, different only in the color of its flag and chosen race loyalty, Zionism is the driving force behind this racist war and our dictator is a whore purchased to the cause through his greed for oil and lust for power. The victims of today are Semites too, only they believe in Allah or Jesus and the riches that are stolen from the them are land rather than capital. Just as Hitler had his brownshirts, Bush has his hate mongers. Railing against freedom and liberty are Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, David Horowitz, and Michael Savage. These stooges of the coup point their accusatory fingers at anyone who dares to declare the dictator naked. They smear the brave who stand up to tyranny. Horowitz calls for the mass arrest of dissidents. Savage threatens to unleash brownshirts on his opponents. O'Reilly reads fake emails, falsely reported to be from dissidents, on his fabricated show between taking potshots at whole nations and their people. Limbaugh spews about liberals as if they were untouchable scum. Free Republic brownshirts stalk the Internet, harassing any online forum where dissent is tolerated. Some Free Republic members barge in on antiwar meetings, taking notes and identifying participants as "communists." Free Republic spin-off groups spam Islamic forums with threats of genocide against Muslims and Arabs. Reports now indicate that the fascist and illegal Bush regime will be rounding up all Muslim asylum seekers. We've already seen mass arrests and mass deportations of men of Middle Eastern dissent, exempted of course are those blessed with the designation "Jewish." There are rumors of concentration camps already constructed. If these rumors are true, we should not be surprised. It would not be the first time that Americans have been rounded up based on their race and forced to live in camps or reservations. Nor should we be surprised at the violations of human rights, for Bush has already violated the Geneva Convention and currently houses prisoners of war under inhuman conditions on an illegal US Military base in Cuba - that is when he's not busy sending them to be tortured in Syria, Egypt, or Jordan. During the time of Hitler, many an intellectual stood by and/or supported Hitler. Take, for example, the brilliant philosopher Martin Heiddegger. Who would have thought that he'd become a Nazi? Then again, who would have thought that Alan Dershowitz would be advocating torture? Who would have thought that a brave woman standing before a bulldozer would be ridiculed by Jews? These are the same Jews that condemned all Germans for standing by and looking the other way as their Jewish parents and grandparents were slaughtered. A young American woman, most probably educated by a school system influenced highly by the ADL, took literally the maxim "Never again!" and as a hero she applied it, sacrificing her life, only to be denounced by the offspring of Hitler's victims. We stand here today, a nation in the grip of a racist ideology, waging war on behalf of a privileged minority conjoined with an even larger band of Christian religious bigots, both believing that divine province calls them to draw the sword and wipe out another race. I, for one, will not stand by and remain silent while my nation parades upon the world stage as a blood thirsty monster possessed with an evil and wicked ideology, slaughtering countless innocent women, children, and men! I am not alone! Shame on us for not lashing out earlier! Shame on our neighbors, friends, and family members who burry their heads in denial! We have become monsters and the wrath of the world will be upon us if we do not end this insanity now. The true heroes of today are not the soldiers marching off to war. Hitler's soldiers marched off to war too! They suffered and they were victims of his maniacal plans and it is likely that few of them could see an alternative before them, but that did not make them heroes. Cows herded off to the slaughter share the same fate, only they don't murder. The true heroes of today are those who say NO! The true heroes of today are sitting in jail cells for their acts of defiance. The true heroes of today are those who stand up against bulldozers, padded police monstrosities, and businessmen who murder with the wave of a hand. There are no heroes in the White House - only chicken shit cowards! There are no heroes in the Supreme Court - only over privileged assholes that use the Constitution to wipe their butts! There are no heroes in Congress, save the few that have already spoken out. The only heroes that matter will come from the people. e-mail:: SRDeVoy@aol.com Homepage:: http://www.stop-fascism.org/march_20,_2003.htm

Now, if we go over the BS posted by the KOBE KREW, we will see:

Pornography

Pedophilia

Libel

Defamation

Death threats.

I think the difference between normal IndyPosters and the KOBE is very clear. As for myself, I am here to make your harassment more difficult.

Stephen DeVoy, accusing me of harrassing people!

How many KOBEs have you "identified", Stevie?

Is that little old lady in Australia still not talking to you?

I suggest, before you start labeling others as mentally ill, you seek counselling yourself. You have a well-known history of cyberstalking.

As for your rant about Bush and Ashcroft dismantling the Constitution, you are confusing opinion with fact. And the fact is, I don't feel the need to act on your opinion.

Have you ever served in uniform, Steve? Didn't think so. If you defended your country as well as you defend this rinky-dink newswire, we'd never have anything to worry about.

"You have no ethics and no belief system."

Of course I do. But since they don't agree with yours, you can't recognize them.

BTW, I visit other newswires, but post at them only rarely. Believe it or not, la-imc is one of the more moderate newswires; some others delete posts as soon as it's apparent who posted them. So much for free speech. So I can hardly be accused of bring down the newswire universe.

How much storage space and bandwidth have you soaked up, Steve, in your KOBE hunt? Far more than I ever will. So, who's spamming?

Now, answer my question: What are you afraid of?

What was your objective?

By the way, have you seen "The Full Monty" yet? You should as you post on UK imc.

Are you interested in the UK and their failed anarchist movement?

I have documented your harassment for more than 1 1/2 years. I have also documented the fact that you intentionally posed as various individuals in order to lead me to believe that you were those individuals. You have also admitted this.

Now, if you look at the definition of Cyber Stalking, posting information about the indentity of an individual and the reason why you believe that individual is involved in harassment is NOT cyber stalking. Cyber stalking is doing exactly what you do - seeking out specific individuals for harassment, sending death threats to them, posting in their name, and then attempting to fix the blame on the victim. That is exactly what studies of the psychopathology of cyber stalkers describes.

All of your accusations are pure bullshit. You are asserting that posting a few pages documenting the reasons to believe that person X is using identity Y is a case of cyber stalking. That does not fit the definition. Also, I still believe that person X is person Y. That is, I don't believe I was incorrect.

What little pin-brained concept is driving you to think it at all unusual to post on a foreign IMC. After all, I have copies of KOBE posts on Jerusalem IMC.

Come ON, steve.

Proof? What "proof" could you have that I'm KOBE?

All you have is the fact that I think your politics are ridiculous.

If that's the case, there are 6 billion KOBEs on this planet.

Because KOBE does it then it means it is OK for you to do it too?

and by reversing that, because you do it then KOBE can?

Because KOBE spams Jerusalem IMC is your excuse for posting your shit on the UK imc?

Is that what you are saying here?

Now, let's throw egg in RNP's face:

http://jerusalem.indymedia.org/news/2002/11/89104.php

Here's the article:

Islamic Terrorist cells using First Amendment Rights of Free Speech

Islamic Fundamentalist groups are using the American Constitutional right to Free Speech to spread anti-American propaganda. Operating through known subversive/dissident organizations such as the Rational Meme Collective (Rational Anarchy) who operates a blatantly anti-American, anti-government website at http://www.breakyourchains.org , and other dissident/subversive forums at http://www.stop-fascism.org and http://www.rationalanarchism.org , these groups seek to suppress all information regarding the true nature of Islamic Fundamentalist terrorist groups. Any website or other informational source is immediately accused of spreading hate, and all attempts are made to slander and harass operators of those websites or informational sources. The site at http://www.breakyourchains.org has made a formal “declaration of war” to this effort. Their dialogue is anything but peaceful, and can be monitored at http://forum.asiaco.com/cgi-bin/forum/forum.cgi?fid=pakistan&n=1 under various aliases using anonymous proxies.

The irony is that if it were not for the Constitutional right to Free Speech granted to all American citizens, none of their propaganda would ever make it to press, media, or the internet. Although some Americans and most peaceful Muslims might find the understandably angry tone of KOBE to be offensive, the website clearly denounces the illegal destruction of websites and any direct physical violence against people. There are far greater evils to combat than the rants of online entities. Nobody attacks the PC game industry for publishing games which allow very realistic combat scenarios where Middle Easterners are killed, and their bodies exploded into bloody little bits (the Delta Force series by Novalogic).

The fact remains that the threat of Islamic Fundamentalism to peace-loving muslims and the rest of the free world is very real. So much so, that it has taken the leaders of the world to appeal to the United Nations for resolution. Every effort has been made to allow this movement to eliminate its violent components, to no avail. The same rights to Free Speech apply to KOBE as they do to these terrorists, which is unfortunate. But this is America. I feel nothing but contempt when I see these terrorists burning an American flag, and it will take nothing short of a world effort to eliminate the threat of Islamic terrorism.

Exactly what "Islamic Terrorist Cells" are working with me? Name them. Name their members. Explain how they are working with me.

What kind of moron would make a statement like this:

"Nobody attacks the PC game industry for publishing games which allow very realistic combat scenarios where Middle Easterners are killed, and their bodies exploded into bloody little bits (the Delta Force series by Novalogic)."

Plenty of people are attacking the PC game industry for such games. This statement of yours is false.

Also, is it any coincidence that your Boston member of KOBE (Thomas Lasswell) is a PC game fanatic, has waxed on and on about his love for role playing, and that you are writing about PC games as if they are as important as the issue of terrorism while engaging in role playing? For God's sake, you're little twit friend, TJLASS, is so in love with PC Games that he takes photos of his disks.

You guys are a bunch of loonies.

I'm going to bed.

You guys are a bunch of losers.

I.e.: " I know when I'm whipped."

You'll have to get up and answer the door in a few minutes, Steve.

It's the 24 Hour Butt Delivery Service.

He'll be handing you yours.

Do come by my house. I'd love to meet you. After all, I believe strongly in the Second Amendment and would love to make use of it.

Meanwhile, I'll be sleeping soundly. Come by and I'll show you the light, though it may be but a flash.

Good night, losers.

"Exactly what "Islamic Terrorist Cells" are working with me? Name them. Name their members. Explain how they are working with me."

That was then. I understand they quit working with you when they realised you were nuts.

"Plenty of people are attacking the PC game industry for such games. This statement of yours is false. "

It ain't my statement sunshine!

"You guys are a bunch of loonies"

Is that your professional opinion?

Does a sticker salesman and Boston panhandler have a right to an opinion??

In my world he does.

In your world am I allowed MY opinion?

Am I allowed to resist anarchism with all the tools available?

You yell " FUCK YOU ASHCROFT"

I should be allowed to whisper quietly "fuck you devoy"

You think?

"Exactly what "Islamic Terrorist Cells" are working with me? Name them. Name their members. Explain how they are working with me."

That was then. I understand they quit working with you when they realised you were nuts.

"Plenty of people are attacking the PC game industry for such games. This statement of yours is false. "

It ain't my statement sunshine!

"You guys are a bunch of loonies"

Is that your professional opinion?

Does a sticker salesman and Boston panhandler have a right to an opinion??

In my world he does.

In your world am I allowed MY opinion?

Am I allowed to resist anarchism with all the tools available?

You yell " FUCK YOU ASHCROFT"

I should be allowed to whisper quietly "fuck you devoy"

You think?

"Exactly what "Islamic Terrorist Cells" are working with me? Name them. Name their members. Explain how they are working with me."

That was then. I understand they quit working with you when they realised you were nuts.

"Plenty of people are attacking the PC game industry for such games. This statement of yours is false. "

It ain't my statement sunshine!

"You guys are a bunch of loonies"

Is that your professional opinion?

Does a sticker salesman and Boston panhandler have a right to an opinion??

In my world he does.

In your world am I allowed MY opinion?

Am I allowed to resist anarchism with all the tools available?

You yell " FUCK YOU ASHCROFT"

I should be allowed to whisper quietly "fuck you devoy"

You think?

"That was then. I understand they quit working with you when they realised you were nuts."

Name them.

What's taking you so long. What are their names?

If you can't name them, then I claim the right to designate you delusional.

What's taking you so long, RNP? Does Bush have your tongue?

Not that it would be surprising. After all, you lie all the time. You lie about all sorts of things. Anyone that spends so much time on line pretending to be something she's not (e.g. rational and normal), while lying and harassing people cannot be well, can they?

Ask a KOBE!!!!!

Geez I thought you went to bed.

Anyway sleep well. While you are asleep just think of this. The UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT works 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year, IT NEVER SLEEPS!

When you wake up just imagine what COINTELPRO operations have happened while you were not around to stop it.

P.S. get a BBS... let's take this shit off la-imc, they do not deserve it or need it.

And don't we coward and once again start posting as soon as I sign off.

Now, since you are so brave and you stated that you would come to my house to deliver me "my butt," I will report back tomorrow as to whether you showed up or not. I will create a page on my website reporting whether or not you showed up and I will provide a link to it here. I will not post the report here, only the link. Any such report posted here that consists of more than a direct link to my website will be a KOBE hoax.

Please do show up. I am waiting to see just how brave you are.

because I ain't delivering nothing to you. Never said I would, never will.

However while you are asleep I WILL be traveling across cyberspace and collecting more of your shit to throw back at you.

See the full monty... just watch the first 5 mins, and then comment on the OTHER thread... on BOSTON.

Devoy you asshole, I'll be at Pax River NAS on behalf of Information Network Systems beginning Monday Sept 22 to Saturday Sept 27 each day from 0430 HRS until 1530 HRS, 1600HRS latest

If you truly know who I am call there and ask for

Steven DeVoy I'll leave word with the appropriate people and your call will be immediately transferred to my location

Oh and forget about your DIA complaint, you see I've quashed it. Let's see how good you are Steven, bring it on chump you pathetic unamerican asshole

Kisses

Burt

wow

NAS

nazis awarded

sanctuary

wow

!

If you catch me lying or obfuscating..

by Eric Friday July 11, 2003 03:02 AM

feel free to point it out. I don't think anyone on here HAS ever done that to me. Any lies I've ever posted were certainly unintentional.

DID EVERYONE SEE THE LATEST HEADLINES

"IRAQ NOT INVOLVED IN 911 SAYS BUSH"

IRAQ HAD NO CAPABILITIES TO MAKE SMALLPOX"

"STILL NO WMDS"

))))))))((((((((((((((((

CHECK OUT THIS GEM

"What are we doing in Iraq?"

by Eric Tuesday July 08, 2003 02:00 AM

I think we're in Iraq mostly to make a point. That point being:

If you pull a knife, we'll pull a gun. If you put three thousand of ours in the morgue, we'll "Shock & Awe™" your ass. That's the "American" way.

Now you guys will start in with your "Iraq wasn't involved in 911" mantras and your "there's no proof Arabs flew those planes" blather.

Go right ahead. I don't believe your conspiracy theories. I believe radical islamic fundamentalists attacked my country. Bombing the hell out of dirt piles and jungle gyms in Afghanistan just doesn't do it for me. It didn't do it for most Americans either.

Saddam was a good scapegoat to vent a lot of frustration on. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

LOOKS LIKE THE CONSPIRACY THEORISTS WERE RIGHT AFTER ALL........

GOTCHA THERE SHIT FOR BRAINS....!!!!



Actually, zero,

by daveman Friday May 16, 2003 12:23 PM

...come on over and try to get on Shaw.

The Army National Guard guys who have been augmenting the Air Force Security Forces look kinda bored; you'd liven up their day.

Although the smallest one of them would have no trouble breaking a pasty-faced, tough-talking-at-the-keyboard self-styled anarchist in tiny pieces with one hand, not spilling a drop from the coffee cup in the other.

And the rest could just laugh at you for being so demonstrably stupid.

Sound like fun. When did you say you were gonna get here? Do you need directions? Try http://www.mapquest.com.

See you soon!

And what proof do you have that nonanachist is Eric?

Hint: the voices in your head are not admissable in court.

And if you're trying to make the point that changing handles is lying, you are the biggest liar on IndyMedia.

And that's saying a LOT.

The DIA can sort it out.

>If you oppose our philosophy, what are you doing using a newswire based on the anarchist philosophy?

Attn: faker

Here's quote I lifted from one of DeVoy's postings above. Were you saying something about this not being an anarchist based website. And while we're here:

DeVoy,

Our resident "faker" believes that anarchy goes against nature. Would you care to explain to this idiot why he's wrong.

>If you have sworn to uphold the US Constitution, why are you not raising arms against George Bush and John Ashcroft? They have destroyed the Constitution.

That's your opinion. You are entitled to it. I do not believe they have violated the Constitution. If you don't like that, it's not my problem.