Let’s face it. Indymedia is a fringe site for radicals who, because of their political perspective, should never have a seat at the table of those who conduct in serious political debate. Because of this lack of fulfillment, a miniscule handful of them from various locations gather here to vent. That the vast majority of the populace ignores their political convictions is an endless stream of frustration to these people. By gum, they actually believe they have something worthwhile to contribute, and their voices should be just as important as, let’s say, sane, skilled and capable individuals. It will continue to be disappointment to them. They simply want to be something that is out of their league.

The shills who post here promoting their leftists and anarchists political leaning are intentionally not seeing obvious truths right in front of their face. If they are not doing it intentionally, then that can only mean they are too stupid to recognize their own incompetence. Leftists and anarchists who are too stupid to see the truth when placed right in front of their face are aplenty, but are generally too paranoid of their own shadow to be of any effect in our daily lives. It's those who lie to themselves and truly believe they should be listened to which is the subject of this discussion.

When presented with what is regarded by the populace as accurate and unquestionable evidences, they must immediately discredit these things which do not agree with their already predetermined account of events. When going by the book written by those who control their thoughts, the acceptable way of discarding this is to pronounce the evidence as having been offered up by “corporate controlled media”. By this claim, all evidence presented in articles from such publications can be dismissed without further consideration.

Another method is to post links to obscure and virtually unknown bloggers who have created their own news sites, the majority of which have a pronounced agenda of presenting “alternative news”, a code word if you will for anti-conservative rantings. These writings are offered up to us as “legitimate sources” of unquestioned integrity, and the poster of such requests, or more likely demands, that those who disagree with the premise of the article prove it wrong. This weakness in position is seen as strength to those of the political left. They have built another strawman, and have valiantly slayed him with a dull blade of grass.

A common method of discrediting those things which daily destroys their tunnel-vision view of the world is to declare victory over one’s opponent. This method ordinarily occurs when the one declaring victory has just had his head handed to him. In their eyes, they have given themselves an upper hand by pronouncing an end to the discussion, thereby avoiding the embarrassing realization that to continue would mean further humiliation.

Leftists and anarchists are extremely stupid people. That they are unable to except that truth is further evidence of just how stupid and out-of-touch they really are. If they would simply admit they are ignorant fools and that their political views are worthless, at least the world could have a small bit of respect for them. Seeing as it appears that they will continue to believe they have something worth contributing, those of us who are able to see clearly in order to bring to the table reasoned and beneficial solutions will continue to marginalize these innocent-of-mind imbeciles and keep them safely tucked away in a box where they cannot hurt themselves or others.

That Indymedia exists should be an encouragement to the peace loving, caring and compassionate of the world that the radical leftists and anarchists who support this place are experiencing their last gasps of breath. Desperate times call for desperate measures, and their political positions and beliefs reflect their desperation. The message they project and the methods which they must use to in order to attempt to get their message out has become a self-fulfilled prophesy of their own demise.

Another forthright and accurate commentary presented by Mr. LeMay.

That perhaps there really is a vast rightwing conspiracy.

That there are some radical rightwingers that are such extremists, that they have set about the goal of undermining the political left through a campaign of trivializing and marginalizing them.

These loony Fifth Columninsts may perhaps in fact, not be leftists at all. But instead, radical conservatists hellbent upon undoing the honest plights of humanitarianistic, ethical, and legitimate liberals.

Makes ya think. Hmmmm. Now yes it does....

I drink Rupert Murdoch's semen.

Someone cloned this insightful article in an attempt to discredit the author. Must have struck a chord.

We've been monitoring KOBE and the Free Republic for amost two years now. The lead message is a typical poorly executed PsyOps attempt. KOBE and the fascist fellow travellers believe that we are stupid enough to believe that number of posts in support of a position equals the number of individuals in support of a position. This is typical FReeper "logic." This is why FReepers "freep" online polls, spam forums, and engage in various forms of deception. It's all an act of illusion.

The number of anarchists is growing quickly. I know because I talk to people not on the Internet and I know that the number of individuals sympathetic to the anarchist position is growing rapidly. Our anarchist websites are becoming more and more popular among the general population. The more these mentally deficient FReepers behave badly, the better it is for the anarchists. The FReepers are driving people away from the FReeper position.

KOBE SBM, for example, is the poster boy of FReeper mental disfunction.

...the lead article on the thread is so filled with poor writing, half and no truths, and is just such a piece of brain-dead spite that I feel almost uncomfortable even acknowledging it's existence.

However, I just wanted to it's author know the what it doing is "Typing not Writing".

Take the admonitions of a skilled typist into consideration:

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/06/66878_comment.php#66886

...today Airic. I am of a mood that would lead me to be only amused by your pathetically spiteful comments.

This article apparantly got posted twice by mistake; there is more commentary on the second posting, below.

'Thank you' above read the article in less than a minute and posted a response one minute after the article testifying to its' greatness. How much comprehension and digestion can occur in a minute? Me thinks someone hath tooted thy own horn! HA HA! Loser!

One other thing: you troll/shills take no risks because you are protected by your masters. WE who have no Masters have no protection, which equates to great risk along with great responsibility. I am proud to know that our side has more balls and guts than yours will ever have! You marshmallow, coach-potato (Dan Quayle-style spelling omitted!) power-steering driving, AC loving, lack-of-idea having, suit-wearing MFers will NEVER, repeat, NEVER, have our HEART.

Spoken like the brave and mighty Irishman you are! Right on.

...that the Stockholm Conservatives can't face is that someone might disagree with them - and be right.

On more than one occasion I've let you know when you were right, regardless of how infrequently it may occur.

I call that "Broken Clock" syndrome.

Obviously they can't handle the truth.

Obviously, you can't handle intelligent thought.

Interpret intelligent thought, that is. Why dont you try it sometime?

Payton Lamey or what ever his name is doesn't say a dam thing. All he does is criticise people he doesn't agree with. I can tell you one thing anybody who says they are conservative and thinks we on the left are radical fringe elements is ultra rich or fooled by the corporate media attack dogs. We on the left are saying what the media doesn't want people taling about, Corporate Crime, government coruption and the increasing gap between rich and poor. We talk about real issues that are happeing to everday people and any of these right wing heros can only shout and scream in soundbites and propaganda. Seldom do you hear any intellegent thougt and debate in the corporate controled media. You know like when to sides actually sit down and exchange ideas.

Patton LeMay does all of my thinking for me. I'm incapable intelligent thought. Hell, I'm incapable of ANY thought.

www.kobehq.com

Bush Admirer, The strong military you say the US needs spends more than the next 12 countries combined. What for? To protect us from men with box cutters! Please don't even try to use that old cold war argument. You don't fight

terrorist with ICBm's. The military is being used to dominate the worlds resources and keep the benafites in the hands of US corporate interests.

And you say that corporate crime is not a big issue, what a joke! Read the paper! Watch your corporate news! Tr y telling that to US airways employess. The company used Enron type accounting to falsify the returns of their employees pension plan. When it went bankrupt the three CEO's walked away with 35 million apiece, meanwhile the pilots who worked all their life and were supposed to get 75 K per year are now only going to get

25k per year. By their fraundlent accounting methods they were able to get around laws that would have forced them to make up losses in the pension plan thus saving

it for the employees.

THis is just one example, Wall Street reaks with coruption and fraud and our government is bought off by these corporate swindlers. ANd BUsh is their poster child

"This is one of the best, well-informed, and honest commencement speeches I have ever heard or read."

Unsubstantiated Allegation

For more on logic at your level, try reading "Logic for Dummies."

The US is a crock of shit.

The military is all they have coz god knows the US doesn't live up to its "principles."

fuckin bloodthirsty warmongerers.

where i come from

we teach our children that killing is wrong.