Nothing Sweeter To Bush Than Revenge

By Helen Thomas

Hearst Newspapers

6-1-3



WASHINGTON -- Revenge must be very sweet, considering the hard-nosed approach the Bush administration takes toward those who opposed the president's decision to invade Iraq.

 

President Bush's personal grudge against several nations is still obvious, including France, Germany, Russia, Turkey, Canada, Mexico and Chile.

 

There was a period in the lead-up to the war when White House press secretary Ari Fleischer made it clear that the president wasn't accepting telephone calls from some of the leaders who had rebuffed him on the question of going to war.

 

France especially remains in the U.S. doghouse. French diplomats have complained about rumors that they had given visas to fleeing Iraqi leaders. Not so, said the French in a vigorous denial.

 

Even more sinister, Secretary of State Colin Powell -- in an uncharacteristic role as the godfather-enforcer for the administration -- has been lecturing straying nations that they will be punished for their stand against the war. As he puts it, they will suffer the "consequences." The exact penalties are never spelled out but the ominous threat is left hanging.

 

Some diplomacy!

 

German leader Gerhard Schroeder felt the sting when he sought a one-on-one meeting with Bush at the G-8 Economic Summit in Evian, France, next week only to be informed that there "won't be time."

 

Bush cancelled a May 5 visit to Canada to display his displeasure with Prime Minister Jean Chretien's stand on the war.

 

Relations with Russian President Vladimir Putin, which had been friendly and close, turned sour temporarily after Russia opposed the war. The Bush administration made a big show of slowing down its efforts to persuade Congress to repeal the 1974 Jackson-Vanik law. Repeal of the law, which ties trade to an easing of Russian emigration, has been a long-sought goal of Russia.

 

More recently Putin has written to Bush seeking cooperation "at all levels."

 

Turkey wound up on the hit list when the Turkish people rebelled against U.S. wishes and denied use of their soil for U.S. forces to attack Iraq.

 

Chile, which also opposed the war, paid a price when Bush delayed signing the long-sought free trade agreement. The U.S. trade representative now will ink the pact June 6 in Miami.

 

Meantime, the United States and Britain have taken control of Iraq's economy and its oil fields. The Bush administration gave contracts to Halliburton -- Vice President Cheney's old company -- and to Bechtel -- where former Secretary of State George Shultz is on the board -- without competitive bidding.

 

The United Nations will be given minimal authority in the reconstruction and economic revival.

 

Powell was in Paris recently for a meeting with seven foreign ministers of the Western industrialized states to make preparations for the upcoming G-8 summit.

 

Asked by reporters whether the United States intended to punish the French, Powell replied, "No," but added a chilling observation:

 

"You take note of those who disagree with you, and you try to find out why and if it is appropriate to draw some conclusions. And consequences follow those conclusions."

 

Rumors that Bush planned to stay at a hotel in nearby Switzerland in order to snub his French host, President Jacques Chirac, were denied.

 

Pentagon officials said they were reviewing plans for joint military exercises with France and other countries "in the light of changed circumstances." One spokesman confirmed that the French would not be invited to the so-called "Red Flag" Air Force exercise in Nevada next year.

 

All of this makes the United States look pretty petty. The Bush administration is demanding an oath of unquestioning loyalty from its allies. Those that fail to toe the line now must seek forgiveness on bended knee.

 

The Bush administration has treated the United Nations in the same autocratic way.

 

Is everyone supposed to march in lockstep with the United States?

 

While the accent is on punishment of those who dare to disagree, the leaders of friendly nations get the full charm treatment. They may be invited to a White House state dinner or to the president's ranch in Crawford, Texas, where nearly a dozen world leaders have been hosted as a symbol of presidential appreciation that they are loyal members of the team.

 

Bush would do better on the international stage if he would mend relations with old and trusted friends, instead of alienating and isolating them as he now seems bent on doing. The world would be better off.

 

Helen Thomas is a columnist for Hearst Newspapers.

Email: helent@hearstdc.com>helent@hearstdc.com.

Copyright 2003 Hearst Newspapers.

The Godfather is most displeased.

You're quoting Helen Thomas? The ugliest woman alive! You're quoting that one! Hahahahah. What a joke!

"The ugliest woman alive!"

Unsubstantiated Allegation.

sorry i do this all the time

its all i got

Has anyone noticed that whenever Bush Admirer posts an article that if it isn't from one of his corporate right-wing sources than he automaticly dissmissis it. Bush Admirer you got it backward remember this, Rich Media Poor Democracy, Its actually a book. Try to find one talk show host on Am radio that isn't a right wing hack . One republican after another is paraded out and you never hear any deomcrats, one point of view. Sorry Bush Admirer we want more than just you point of view. System Failure is right there is a war going on to save this planet from the greedy corporate pigs at the trough, (thats another book), and its gonna lead to a revolution. I really want to be non-violent but then I keep thinking about that infamous speech by Malcomb X, by any means neccesary.

People like you Bush Admirer just won't listen to reason. So were gonna have to fight back to be free of the matrix.

Steady as she goes Wavemaster.

http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm

GWB is on track to be reelected by a landslide.

The reason there are so many conservative talk shows is that thinking Americans are sick and tired of the 'confiscate and squander' Democrats and the left in general.

Why don't they have an equal number of leftist talk shows? The answer is that most Democrats and other lefties don't read the newspaper and don't watch news programs. They're busy playing computer games, watching daytime soap operas, and sitcoms.

The left is nothing more than a big coalition of losers. They don't really share the same views on most of the issues. They simply pool together to whine and complain. On balance, they should be known as the Free Lunch Crowd rather than "The Left"

Only 1 problem with that:

We'd kick your pussy-assed, whining liberal asses.

...irresponsible Tax and Spend Demoncrats does not mean that one must perforce accept Jackbooted Republican Rape and Pillage Robber Baron Crony Capitalism as is represented by the Bush Junta and their Pet NAZI's.

How about a Pox on both their houses.

They are two horns of a Hegelian Dialectic - Thesis - Antthesis and the Synthesis is killing us, our freedoms, our environment and our Civilization.

A Foreign Policy of kill them all and let God sort them out is not a sane foreign Policy. It is absolute criminal insanity. Which is not much of shocker if you look at the history of the Bush Family. They make the Genovese family look like a Humanitarian and Charitable Organization by contrast.

Get the Government Thugs of both Parties out of the lives of the American People and we are quite capable of taking care of ourselves thank you.

However it won't happen if you the average person does not get up from in front of that 21" "Peephole into Paradise" and make things happen. Good things, like honest government, do not "just happen". It requires active participation and the willingness to fight with utter and reckless ferocity.

If 'lefties' are so pathetic, why can't the leaders of your glorious 4th Reich ever have a meeting without thousands of robocops? I mean, really, when was the last time Rush Limbaugh rallied half a million people in the streets anywhere?

The anti-captialist forces have cost the Empire MILLIONS of DOLLARS in security. And everytime some out-of-control bootjack assaults a local instead of a protestor, we gain more allies. Critical mass will be reached, just like it was in Argentina.

Funny how brave people are behind a computer. But I never see them in the streets...only riot police.

"If 'lefties' are so pathetic, why can't the leaders of your glorious 4th Reich ever have a meeting without thousands of robocops? I mean, really, when was the last time Rush Limbaugh rallied half a million people in the streets anywhere?

A) Fuck Limbaugh.

B) Any comparison to Hitler or Nazis is silly and immediately loses you credibility points.

C) You are all pathetic for reasons such as B. Furthermore, being able to gather together thousands of similiar, lemming-like hysterical hobbyists such as yourself, which neccessittates the presence of cops in order to keep your misquided petty asses in line, is NOT the mark of a valid movement.

The anti-captialist forces have cost the Empire MILLIONS of DOLLARS in security. And everytime some out-of-control bootjack assaults a local instead of a protestor, we gain more allies. Critical mass will be reached, just like it was in Argentina.

A) No it won't. Obviously.

Funny how brave people are behind a computer. But I never see them in the streets...only riot police.

A) Of course you don'y. Read all the reasons above.

"

That was good Fresca -- Very good!

I'll be here all week.

" Any comparison to Hitler or Nazis is silly and immediately loses you credibility points. "

Yes, Adolph actually fought in combat.

The kids are too busy playing video games and soaking up all that dumbed down corporate tv and movies. I'll bet if you if you asked the average high school grad who their state senators were they wouldn't have a clue but you could be dam sure they could tell you who won American Idol or Survivor. And now with the new rule media rule changes which allow for even more consolidation its even gonna be worse. You see these kids are bombarded with hyper commercialism and are treated as consumers not citizens, this is a point which Ralph Nader talks about in detail. We live in a corporate dictatorship in which the needs of the people are ignored and government only serves the powerfull and the few, and if your man gets in for another 4 years, my god we won't have any civil liberties left and it truly will be a coportate fachsist state modeled after Mousilini.

you sound like every other old fuck complaining about the generation replacing theirs. you don't know shit about whats going on with this generation. your post are incomplete, rife with misspellings and just plain stupid most of the time."fachsist state modeled after Mousilini" read this and convince me your not a complete moron. It doesn't even make sense unless your fluent in retard. Mussolini was a facist ruling a country not the other way around. You are an idiot.

I must know more than you cause you don't know shit about whats happeing today and if you don't like my post why don't you do something about it

...we had to walk 10 milws to school during blizzards every day. Also, it was uphill both way blahblahblah. These kids today are all gonna end up being litle moosilenies with thear commercalls and unerpanties. oops i jst crapped my pants.

...FUCK OFF. You are the Douchebag (Proper Nouns are capitalized).

Keep trying you might make it up from the rank of Imbecile and make it to Moron yet.

Until then respect your Betters.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

Do you have anything intelligent to say?

Maybe you could try refuting the argument next time instead of merely casting aspersions. A sesquipedalian vocabulary may be indicative of erudition but it is no substitute for intelligence.

We live in a time when 40 Percent of High School Graduates cannot read beyond Fifth Grade Level.

The S.A.T. has been dumbed down by 200 points so as to camoflauge the decline in average literacy level.

While their are exceptions, and this is intended as an observation of an isness not an insult, the decline has accelerated since the early Seventies.

Get Smart!

Why don't you enlighten us with some of your wisdom instead of just pointing out my spelling errors

... but a few things at that. Dio the day i worry about what you have to say is the day i'll heed the word of the old cat-lady that yells at me not to cut across her lawn. Why? because in effect you are the internet version of her. old, overly self important, and hangs out in one place all freekin day. If you put one tenth of energy into the things you write about you might accomplish something. until then keep the number of cats in your house under 10. i only ask for a person to write clearly, as it is the internet, not so it clears editing at a publisher. tear it up you pompous jaggoff

I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey junior its past your bed time. Tell you what ,if your a good little boy then you can watch pokimon or hey, maybe even play a little Tony Hawk before you go to bed. This is a free speech message board not a college forum you little snot nose juvinle delinquent. Why don't you go to some teen message board and talk about the new Harry Potter book comming out, I'm sure your on the waiting list.

it's pokemon and i'm into sponge bob now anyway. I told you that you were out of it wrinkly, now go have another prune juice.

Wavemaster - this is one of your more illuminating posts: "Hyper commercialism and treated as consumers not citizens, this is a point which Ralph Nader talks about in detail. We live in a corporate dictatorship in which the needs of the people are ignored and government only serves the powerfull and the few, and if your man gets in for another 4 years, my god we won't have any civil liberties left and it truly will be a coportate fachsist state modeled after Mousilini."

What it illuminates is the empty space where your brain is suppose to be.

Ralph Nader is one of the five dumbest people alive along with Noam Chumpsky, Gore Vidal, etc. Ralph never said anything that was convincing. He's a guy who never has held a job and who managed to make a career out of whining and complaining.

Corporations create the products and services which have given us such a high standard of living and make America the envy of the world. They are an inherent part of our Capitalistic system, the best system ever invented.

Sure we have problems with some corporations. The Enrons and the Microsofts do need to be reigned in. However, we have bigger problems with excessive government regulation, high taxes, militant labor unions, and slackers on the dole.

GW Bush has shown himself to be a great President. Unlike his predecessor he's got real achievements and is working on more (Clinton's only accomplishment in eight years was 'don't ask, don't tell).





add your comments

Nader, yeah right

Chomsky,,,communist sympathizer..

scumfucks.

IF YOU DUMBASSES HATE AMERICA AND LOVE SADDAM THEN MOVE TO IRAQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do these morans actually believe this stuff?

turn off the hippie bullshit..it died with lennon

and Lenin .....

Put down the bong!

yeah!!! kobe

Well lets see I believe that Ralph Nader was the one who is responsible for many of the major reforms in auto saftey such as seatbelts! GM was building death traps and because of Ralph's corageous work were forced to make safer cars. And I would have loved to seen Ralph in the debates last election but see there was a little problem he showed up and they dam near arrested him. What the hell has Bushed accomplished.

1.Tax Cuts for the Rich

2.Death and destruction in Iraq and Afghanastan

3.Destroyed the UN's Credability

4.Created a major rift with our European Allies

5.Appointed judges who will roll back things like environmental protection and consumer rights.

6.Increased terrorisim in the middle east and hostilites between Isreal and Palastine by walking away from the situation in his first year in office.

7.Ruined the economy and created huge federa and state deficates

[INLINE] Issue 402



[INLINE] Student Bill Clinton 'spied' on Americans abroad for CIA



A new book alleges that Bill Clinton spent his Oxford days monitoring

anti-Vietnam war activists for the CIA, Ambrose Evans-Pritchard reports

from Washington



WHEN Bill Clinton ran for the US presidency four years ago, Republicans

tried to prove that, as a student, he burnt the Stars and Stripes in

protest at the Vietnam War.



Now Dr Roger Morris, author of an astonishing new book called Partners

in Power, claims that, in the late 1960s, Mr Clinton worked as a source

for the Central Intelligence Agency. So, was the young Clinton a patriot

or just an opportunist? He was certainly no dangerous radical. "No

attack by his reactionary opponents would be more undeserved than the

charge that young Bill Clinton was 'radical'," concludes Morris.



According to the book, the bearded, dishevelled Rhodes scholar was

recruited by the CIA while at Oxford - along with several other young

Americans with political aspirations - to keep tabs on fellow students

involved in protest activities against the Vietnam War. Morris says that

the young Clinton indulged in some low-level spying in Norway in 1969,

visiting the Oslo Peace Institute and submitting a CIA informant's

report on American peace activists who had taken refuge in Scandinavia

to avoid the draft. "An officer in the CIA station in Stockholm

confirmed that," said Morris.



The Washington Establishment would like to dismiss this troubling book

as the work of a fevered conspiracy theorist. But Morris is no

lightweight. He worked at the White House in both the Johnson and Nixon

administrations, resigning from the National Security Council in 1970 in

protest over the US invasion of Cambodia. He went on to become an

acclaimed biographer of Richard Nixon.



Rhodes scholars such as Mr Clinton were favourite targets for

recruitment



As a member of America's tight-knit association of retired intelligence

officers, he has access to highly privileged information. "It's an

incredible network," he explained. "They pass you along from source to

source."



The CIA started recruiting campus informants under President Lyndon

Johnson when he demanded hard proof that there were, in his words,

"commie money and organisers behind this student s***". The programme,

known as Operation Chaos, would offer informants a wide range of

inducements: a little cash on the side; taking care of their draft

problems; and promises of future help. "You know, if the agency's in a

position to help at some point in their careers, there'd be an

institutional memory," explained one CIA officer. "They knew the

advantages of helping out."



Rhodes scholars such as Mr Clinton were favourite targets for

recruitment. This caused serious friction with Britain's MI5 because it

violated a US-UK agreement that neither country would conduct covert

operations or recruit on each other's home territory. "Because of the

sensitivity of the UK, these kids were treated in some ways like

high-level agents," recalled one officer.



In the mid-1970s the CIA shredded its archives on Operation Chaos. One

of those involved in the purge of the records told Morris that he had

seen Bill Clinton listed as a former informant who went on to run for

political office. "He was there in the records, with a special

designation," the official is quoted as saying in the book.



Mr Clinton's alleged ties to the CIA would explain some later episodes

during his tenure as Governor of Arkansas, when his state became a

staging-point for President Ronald Reagan's secret effort to supply the

Nicaraguan Contra rebels. An Arkansas State Trooper, L. D. Brown, has

testified in a deposition that he was inducted into the CIA on Mr

Clinton's suggestion, and then went on two clandestine flights to

deliver weapons to Central America.



Mr Clinton was even commended for his "patriotic" work by the Reagan

White House after he had sent the Arkansas National Guard to Honduras

for manoeuvres. The deployment was a ruse by the Pentagon, according to

Morris. The Arkansas Guard left its "excess" inventory behind, providing

a cache of weapons that were slipped to the Contras.



The point is not that Bill and Hillary Clinton are Right-wingers in

disguise . It is that they have no conviction, no ideology, no guiding

purpose



Even Hillary Clinton was a Cold Warrior of sorts. Described in Morris's

book as "a closet Contra supporter", she quietly aided Contra

fund-raising in Little Rock. She also used her influence in US liberal

circles to undercut the legitimacy of peace activists and pro-Sandinista

church groups opposed to President Reagan's policies in Central America.



The point is not that Bill and Hillary Clinton are Right-wingers in

disguise - although Morris demolishes the pretence that they were

progressive reformers in Arkansas. It is that they have no conviction,

no ideology, no guiding purpose. Driven by raw ambition, they will make

any compromise necessary to advance their interests.



Partners in Power is the first of what will be a succession of books

about the Clintons whose authors are not fooled by the shadow-boxing

that often passes for substantive debate in American politics. (A second

book, by the editor of the American Spectator, will be coming out later

this month with another set of revelations.)



Morris violates all the taboos. Impatient with the manicured myth that

Bill Clinton was the apple-pie boy from Hope, Arkansas, he reveals the

little-known fact that the President spent much of his childhood in Hot

Springs, the capital of gambling, drug-smuggling and organised crime in

the central United States, where his powerful uncle and mentor, Raymond

Clinton, was a member of the Dixie mafia.



It was not Mr Clinton's fault, of course, that he grew up in the culture

of "the Mob". But it is central to understanding who Bill Clinton really

is. It helps explain why his brother, Roger, ended up as a convicted

drug dealer, and why Bill himself allegedly became a regular user of

cocaine. (On a police surveillance videotape quoted from in the book,

Roger can be heard saying to a supplier of cocaine: "Got to get some for

my brother. He's got a nose like a vacuum cleaner.")



For Morris, ensconced in his New Mexico mountain retreat, the American

political system is now fatally corrupted. Democrats and Republicans

noisily dispute how many angels can fit on the head of a pin. But both

are indentured servants of the permanent government - "a bureaucracy so

self-corrupted it is unfit for democracy" - and the interlocking

interests of the lobby machine to be found on Washington's K Street.



It already looks as if the US media will try to ignore Partners in

Power, which is to be published next week. "Their reaction is entirely

predictable," said Morris. "If they were to behave any other way, my

book would not be true."



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[INLINE] Issue 402



[INLINE] Student Bill Clinton 'spied' on Americans abroad for CIA



A new book alleges that Bill Clinton spent his Oxford days monitoring

anti-Vietnam war activists for the CIA, Ambrose Evans-Pritchard reports

from Washington



WHEN Bill Clinton ran for the US presidency four years ago, Republicans

tried to prove that, as a student, he burnt the Stars and Stripes in

protest at the Vietnam War.



Now Dr Roger Morris, author of an astonishing new book called Partners

in Power, claims that, in the late 1960s, Mr Clinton worked as a source

for the Central Intelligence Agency. So, was the young Clinton a patriot

or just an opportunist? He was certainly no dangerous radical. "No

attack by his reactionary opponents would be more undeserved than the

charge that young Bill Clinton was 'radical'," concludes Morris.



According to the book, the bearded, dishevelled Rhodes scholar was

recruited by the CIA while at Oxford - along with several other young

Americans with political aspirations - to keep tabs on fellow students

involved in protest activities against the Vietnam War. Morris says that

the young Clinton indulged in some low-level spying in Norway in 1969,

visiting the Oslo Peace Institute and submitting a CIA informant's

report on American peace activists who had taken refuge in Scandinavia

to avoid the draft. "An officer in the CIA station in Stockholm

confirmed that," said Morris.



The Washington Establishment would like to dismiss this troubling book

as the work of a fevered conspiracy theorist. But Morris is no

lightweight. He worked at the White House in both the Johnson and Nixon

administrations, resigning from the National Security Council in 1970 in

protest over the US invasion of Cambodia. He went on to become an

acclaimed biographer of Richard Nixon.



Rhodes scholars such as Mr Clinton were favourite targets for

recruitment



As a member of America's tight-knit association of retired intelligence

officers, he has access to highly privileged information. "It's an

incredible network," he explained. "They pass you along from source to

source."



The CIA started recruiting campus informants under President Lyndon

Johnson when he demanded hard proof that there were, in his words,

"commie money and organisers behind this student s***". The programme,

known as Operation Chaos, would offer informants a wide range of

inducements: a little cash on the side; taking care of their draft

problems; and promises of future help. "You know, if the agency's in a

position to help at some point in their careers, there'd be an

institutional memory," explained one CIA officer. "They knew the

advantages of helping out."



Rhodes scholars such as Mr Clinton were favourite targets for

recruitment. This caused serious friction with Britain's MI5 because it

violated a US-UK agreement that neither country would conduct covert

operations or recruit on each other's home territory. "Because of the

sensitivity of the UK, these kids were treated in some ways like

high-level agents," recalled one officer.



In the mid-1970s the CIA shredded its archives on Operation Chaos. One

of those involved in the purge of the records told Morris that he had

seen Bill Clinton listed as a former informant who went on to run for

political office. "He was there in the records, with a special

designation," the official is quoted as saying in the book.



Mr Clinton's alleged ties to the CIA would explain some later episodes

during his tenure as Governor of Arkansas, when his state became a

staging-point for President Ronald Reagan's secret effort to supply the

Nicaraguan Contra rebels. An Arkansas State Trooper, L. D. Brown, has

testified in a deposition that he was inducted into the CIA on Mr

Clinton's suggestion, and then went on two clandestine flights to

deliver weapons to Central America.



Mr Clinton was even commended for his "patriotic" work by the Reagan

White House after he had sent the Arkansas National Guard to Honduras

for manoeuvres. The deployment was a ruse by the Pentagon, according to

Morris. The Arkansas Guard left its "excess" inventory behind, providing

a cache of weapons that were slipped to the Contras.



The point is not that Bill and Hillary Clinton are Right-wingers in

disguise . It is that they have no conviction, no ideology, no guiding

purpose



Even Hillary Clinton was a Cold Warrior of sorts. Described in Morris's

book as "a closet Contra supporter", she quietly aided Contra

fund-raising in Little Rock. She also used her influence in US liberal

circles to undercut the legitimacy of peace activists and pro-Sandinista

church groups opposed to President Reagan's policies in Central America.



The point is not that Bill and Hillary Clinton are Right-wingers in

disguise - although Morris demolishes the pretence that they were

progressive reformers in Arkansas. It is that they have no conviction,

no ideology, no guiding purpose. Driven by raw ambition, they will make

any compromise necessary to advance their interests.



Partners in Power is the first of what will be a succession of books

about the Clintons whose authors are not fooled by the shadow-boxing

that often passes for substantive debate in American politics. (A second

book, by the editor of the American Spectator, will be coming out later

this month with another set of revelations.)



Morris violates all the taboos. Impatient with the manicured myth that

Bill Clinton was the apple-pie boy from Hope, Arkansas, he reveals the

little-known fact that the President spent much of his childhood in Hot

Springs, the capital of gambling, drug-smuggling and organised crime in

the central United States, where his powerful uncle and mentor, Raymond

Clinton, was a member of the Dixie mafia.



It was not Mr Clinton's fault, of course, that he grew up in the culture

of "the Mob". But it is central to understanding who Bill Clinton really

is. It helps explain why his brother, Roger, ended up as a convicted

drug dealer, and why Bill himself allegedly became a regular user of

cocaine. (On a police surveillance videotape quoted from in the book,

Roger can be heard saying to a supplier of cocaine: "Got to get some for

my brother. He's got a nose like a vacuum cleaner.")



For Morris, ensconced in his New Mexico mountain retreat, the American

political system is now fatally corrupted. Democrats and Republicans

noisily dispute how many angels can fit on the head of a pin. But both

are indentured servants of the permanent government - "a bureaucracy so

self-corrupted it is unfit for democracy" - and the interlocking

interests of the lobby machine to be found on Washington's K Street.



It already looks as if the US media will try to ignore Partners in

Power, which is to be published next week. "Their reaction is entirely

predictable," said Morris. "If they were to behave any other way, my

book would not be true."



This report appeared in the last edition of The Sunday Telegraph

Reply to Electronic Telegraph



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[INLINE] Issue 402



[INLINE] Student Bill Clinton 'spied' on Americans abroad for CIA



A new book alleges that Bill Clinton spent his Oxford days monitoring

anti-Vietnam war activists for the CIA, Ambrose Evans-Pritchard reports

from Washington



WHEN Bill Clinton ran for the US presidency four years ago, Republicans

tried to prove that, as a student, he burnt the Stars and Stripes in

protest at the Vietnam War.



Now Dr Roger Morris, author of an astonishing new book called Partners

in Power, claims that, in the late 1960s, Mr Clinton worked as a source

for the Central Intelligence Agency. So, was the young Clinton a patriot

or just an opportunist? He was certainly no dangerous radical. "No

attack by his reactionary opponents would be more undeserved than the

charge that young Bill Clinton was 'radical'," concludes Morris.



According to the book, the bearded, dishevelled Rhodes scholar was

recruited by the CIA while at Oxford - along with several other young

Americans with political aspirations - to keep tabs on fellow students

involved in protest activities against the Vietnam War. Morris says that

the young Clinton indulged in some low-level spying in Norway in 1969,

visiting the Oslo Peace Institute and submitting a CIA informant's

report on American peace activists who had taken refuge in Scandinavia

to avoid the draft. "An officer in the CIA station in Stockholm

confirmed that," said Morris.



The Washington Establishment would like to dismiss this troubling book

as the work of a fevered conspiracy theorist. But Morris is no

lightweight. He worked at the White House in both the Johnson and Nixon

administrations, resigning from the National Security Council in 1970 in

protest over the US invasion of Cambodia. He went on to become an

acclaimed biographer of Richard Nixon.



Rhodes scholars such as Mr Clinton were favourite targets for

recruitment



As a member of America's tight-knit association of retired intelligence

officers, he has access to highly privileged information. "It's an

incredible network," he explained. "They pass you along from source to

source."



The CIA started recruiting campus informants under President Lyndon

Johnson when he demanded hard proof that there were, in his words,

"commie money and organisers behind this student s***". The programme,

known as Operation Chaos, would offer informants a wide range of

inducements: a little cash on the side; taking care of their draft

problems; and promises of future help. "You know, if the agency's in a

position to help at some point in their careers, there'd be an

institutional memory," explained one CIA officer. "They knew the

advantages of helping out."



Rhodes scholars such as Mr Clinton were favourite targets for

recruitment. This caused serious friction with Britain's MI5 because it

violated a US-UK agreement that neither country would conduct covert

operations or recruit on each other's home territory. "Because of the

sensitivity of the UK, these kids were treated in some ways like

high-level agents," recalled one officer.



In the mid-1970s the CIA shredded its archives on Operation Chaos. One

of those involved in the purge of the records told Morris that he had

seen Bill Clinton listed as a former informant who went on to run for

political office. "He was there in the records, with a special

designation," the official is quoted as saying in the book.



Mr Clinton's alleged ties to the CIA would explain some later episodes

during his tenure as Governor of Arkansas, when his state became a

staging-point for President Ronald Reagan's secret effort to supply the

Nicaraguan Contra rebels. An Arkansas State Trooper, L. D. Brown, has

testified in a deposition that he was inducted into the CIA on Mr

Clinton's suggestion, and then went on two clandestine flights to

deliver weapons to Central America.



Mr Clinton was even commended for his "patriotic" work by the Reagan

White House after he had sent the Arkansas National Guard to Honduras

for manoeuvres. The deployment was a ruse by the Pentagon, according to

Morris. The Arkansas Guard left its "excess" inventory behind, providing

a cache of weapons that were slipped to the Contras.



The point is not that Bill and Hillary Clinton are Right-wingers in

disguise . It is that they have no conviction, no ideology, no guiding

purpose



Even Hillary Clinton was a Cold Warrior of sorts. Described in Morris's

book as "a closet Contra supporter", she quietly aided Contra

fund-raising in Little Rock. She also used her influence in US liberal

circles to undercut the legitimacy of peace activists and pro-Sandinista

church groups opposed to President Reagan's policies in Central America.



The point is not that Bill and Hillary Clinton are Right-wingers in

disguise - although Morris demolishes the pretence that they were

progressive reformers in Arkansas. It is that they have no conviction,

no ideology, no guiding purpose. Driven by raw ambition, they will make

any compromise necessary to advance their interests.



Partners in Power is the first of what will be a succession of books

about the Clintons whose authors are not fooled by the shadow-boxing

that often passes for substantive debate in American politics. (A second

book, by the editor of the American Spectator, will be coming out later

this month with another set of revelations.)



Morris violates all the taboos. Impatient with the manicured myth that

Bill Clinton was the apple-pie boy from Hope, Arkansas, he reveals the

little-known fact that the President spent much of his childhood in Hot

Springs, the capital of gambling, drug-smuggling and organised crime in

the central United States, where his powerful uncle and mentor, Raymond

Clinton, was a member of the Dixie mafia.



It was not Mr Clinton's fault, of course, that he grew up in the culture

of "the Mob". But it is central to understanding who Bill Clinton really

is. It helps explain why his brother, Roger, ended up as a convicted

drug dealer, and why Bill himself allegedly became a regular user of

cocaine. (On a police surveillance videotape quoted from in the book,

Roger can be heard saying to a supplier of cocaine: "Got to get some for

my brother. He's got a nose like a vacuum cleaner.")



For Morris, ensconced in his New Mexico mountain retreat, the American

political system is now fatally corrupted. Democrats and Republicans

noisily dispute how many angels can fit on the head of a pin. But both

are indentured servants of the permanent government - "a bureaucracy so

self-corrupted it is unfit for democracy" - and the interlocking

interests of the lobby machine to be found on Washington's K Street.



It already looks as if the US media will try to ignore Partners in

Power, which is to be published next week. "Their reaction is entirely

predictable," said Morris. "If they were to behave any other way, my

book would not be true."



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[INLINE] Issue 402



[INLINE] Student Bill Clinton 'spied' on Americans abroad for CIA



A new book alleges that Bill Clinton spent his Oxford days monitoring

anti-Vietnam war activists for the CIA, Ambrose Evans-Pritchard reports

from Washington



WHEN Bill Clinton ran for the US presidency four years ago, Republicans

tried to prove that, as a student, he burnt the Stars and Stripes in

protest at the Vietnam War.



Now Dr Roger Morris, author of an astonishing new book called Partners

in Power, claims that, in the late 1960s, Mr Clinton worked as a source

for the Central Intelligence Agency. So, was the young Clinton a patriot

or just an opportunist? He was certainly no dangerous radical. "No

attack by his reactionary opponents would be more undeserved than the

charge that young Bill Clinton was 'radical'," concludes Morris.



According to the book, the bearded, dishevelled Rhodes scholar was

recruited by the CIA while at Oxford - along with several other young

Americans with political aspirations - to keep tabs on fellow students

involved in protest activities against the Vietnam War. Morris says that

the young Clinton indulged in some low-level spying in Norway in 1969,

visiting the Oslo Peace Institute and submitting a CIA informant's

report on American peace activists who had taken refuge in Scandinavia

to avoid the draft. "An officer in the CIA station in Stockholm

confirmed that," said Morris.



The Washington Establishment would like to dismiss this troubling book

as the work of a fevered conspiracy theorist. But Morris is no

lightweight. He worked at the White House in both the Johnson and Nixon

administrations, resigning from the National Security Council in 1970 in

protest over the US invasion of Cambodia. He went on to become an

acclaimed biographer of Richard Nixon.



Rhodes scholars such as Mr Clinton were favourite targets for

recruitment



As a member of America's tight-knit association of retired intelligence

officers, he has access to highly privileged information. "It's an

incredible network," he explained. "They pass you along from source to

source."



The CIA started recruiting campus informants under President Lyndon

Johnson when he demanded hard proof that there were, in his words,

"commie money and organisers behind this student s***". The programme,

known as Operation Chaos, would offer informants a wide range of

inducements: a little cash on the side; taking care of their draft

problems; and promises of future help. "You know, if the agency's in a

position to help at some point in their careers, there'd be an

institutional memory," explained one CIA officer. "They knew the

advantages of helping out."



Rhodes scholars such as Mr Clinton were favourite targets for

recruitment. This caused serious friction with Britain's MI5 because it

violated a US-UK agreement that neither country would conduct covert

operations or recruit on each other's home territory. "Because of the

sensitivity of the UK, these kids were treated in some ways like

high-level agents," recalled one officer.



In the mid-1970s the CIA shredded its archives on Operation Chaos. One

of those involved in the purge of the records told Morris that he had

seen Bill Clinton listed as a former informant who went on to run for

political office. "He was there in the records, with a special

designation," the official is quoted as saying in the book.



Mr Clinton's alleged ties to the CIA would explain some later episodes

during his tenure as Governor of Arkansas, when his state became a

staging-point for President Ronald Reagan's secret effort to supply the

Nicaraguan Contra rebels. An Arkansas State Trooper, L. D. Brown, has

testified in a deposition that he was inducted into the CIA on Mr

Clinton's suggestion, and then went on two clandestine flights to

deliver weapons to Central America.



Mr Clinton was even commended for his "patriotic" work by the Reagan

White House after he had sent the Arkansas National Guard to Honduras

for manoeuvres. The deployment was a ruse by the Pentagon, according to

Morris. The Arkansas Guard left its "excess" inventory behind, providing

a cache of weapons that were slipped to the Contras.



The point is not that Bill and Hillary Clinton are Right-wingers in

disguise . It is that they have no conviction, no ideology, no guiding

purpose



Even Hillary Clinton was a Cold Warrior of sorts. Described in Morris's

book as "a closet Contra supporter", she quietly aided Contra

fund-raising in Little Rock. She also used her influence in US liberal

circles to undercut the legitimacy of peace activists and pro-Sandinista

church groups opposed to President Reagan's policies in Central America.



The point is not that Bill and Hillary Clinton are Right-wingers in

disguise - although Morris demolishes the pretence that they were

progressive reformers in Arkansas. It is that they have no conviction,

no ideology, no guiding purpose. Driven by raw ambition, they will make

any compromise necessary to advance their interests.



Partners in Power is the first of what will be a succession of books

about the Clintons whose authors are not fooled by the shadow-boxing

that often passes for substantive debate in American politics. (A second

book, by the editor of the American Spectator, will be coming out later

this month with another set of revelations.)



Morris violates all the taboos. Impatient with the manicured myth that

Bill Clinton was the apple-pie boy from Hope, Arkansas, he reveals the

little-known fact that the President spent much of his childhood in Hot

Springs, the capital of gambling, drug-smuggling and organised crime in

the central United States, where his powerful uncle and mentor, Raymond

Clinton, was a member of the Dixie mafia.



It was not Mr Clinton's fault, of course, that he grew up in the culture

of "the Mob". But it is central to understanding who Bill Clinton really

is. It helps explain why his brother, Roger, ended up as a convicted

drug dealer, and why Bill himself allegedly became a regular user of

cocaine. (On a police surveillance videotape quoted from in the book,

Roger can be heard saying to a supplier of cocaine: "Got to get some for

my brother. He's got a nose like a vacuum cleaner.")



For Morris, ensconced in his New Mexico mountain retreat, the American

political system is now fatally corrupted. Democrats and Republicans

noisily dispute how many angels can fit on the head of a pin. But both

are indentured servants of the permanent government - "a bureaucracy so

self-corrupted it is unfit for democracy" - and the interlocking

interests of the lobby machine to be found on Washington's K Street.



It already looks as if the US media will try to ignore Partners in

Power, which is to be published next week. "Their reaction is entirely

predictable," said Morris. "If they were to behave any other way, my

book would not be true."



This report appeared in the last edition of The Sunday Telegraph

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