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MORE RACISM FROM SYSTEMFAILURE

by fresca Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 2:43 PM

The hate from this valley skinhead nazi just never ends.

OPosting as Daveman on a recent thread (the fulcrom of Evil) Failure had this to say:

"I think we should nuke israel first. "

Now where would anyone get the idea that this fat, white, skinhead is racist?

You should learn how to mask or change your IP nazi.

It's okay to hate.....

by fresca Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 2:46 PM

... those groups approved by the hive.

Failure and his ilk are fuckin' cowards and scumbags.

It's never O.K. to hate.

by Diogenes Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 2:52 PM

However:

"The truth is hate speech only to those with something to hide." Michael Rivero

first of all, you knuckelhead...

by Sheepdog Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 2:56 PM

...fresca, systemfailure didn't post that nuke Israel

comment. As you well know...

mossad always uses the same tactics....

let me get this straight

by fresca Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 2:57 PM

So, Dio, are you in any way implying that nazi SFailure's remarks were the truth or that they were anything other than pure racism?

frescaw has never let the truth...

by Diogenes Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 2:59 PM

...get in the way of an ad hominem attack before. Why should it start now?

Let's try again

by fresca Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 3:03 PM

Dio, let me ask this simple yes or no question again and see if you can answer it:

Are you in any way implying that nazi SFailure's remarks were the truth or that they were anything other than pure racism?

yes, I'm the one....

by Sheepdog Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 3:14 PM

are you still beating that dead horse?

try something else, you're looking silly again and

we are laughing.

of course you're laughing

by fresca Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 3:23 PM

What else can you do.

One of your own shot his mouth off and there's nothing to say.

It's not like you're any less of a racist

although I can't quite figure you for the typical

skinhead nazi type.

But who knows? Maybe you're right there with him at the cross burnings.

It is sorta fascinating to have, even limited, access to people so unabashedly racist.

I've never had the chance to communicate with people like you before.

Let me second...

by Diogenes Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 3:24 PM

...the emotion. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

frescaw your ad hominem attacks on other posters are becoming increasingly amusing. Your credibility has not only slipped down the drain but is undergoing treatment at the sewage plant.

fresca

by fresca Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 3:37 PM

Are you coming to the next KKK rally? Strom and I will be there!

Today's lesson

by fresca Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 3:58 PM

"frescaw your ad hominem attacks "

Dio, let's get you up to speed with some simple logical fallacies and their uses.

If I argue against X's point by simply stating that X is an idiot so THEREFORE X's point must be invalid, that is an Ad hominem attck. It is a logical fallacy.

However, if I argue that X is a racist by pointing out examples of X's racism, that is NOT an Ad Hominem attack. It is simply an assertion proceeded by evidence.

See the difference?

I'll bet you can.

So....when I say that SFailure is a racist and then give the latest example of this as being his written desire to "nuke Isarel first", I am simply proving my original assertion.

There is no ad hominem argument even remotely being made.

SFailure may have some fine, well-thought out and truthful views about a variety of subjects. However, his posts consistently show him to be a racist.

That's all there is to it.

fresca

by fresca Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 4:01 PM

Would you kindly change my diaper?

Today's lesson

by fresca Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 4:04 PM

"frescaw your ad hominem attacks "

Dio, let's get you up to speed with some simple logical fallacies and their uses.

If I argue against X's point by simply stating that X is an idiot so THEREFORE X's point must be invalid, that is an Ad hominem attck. It is a logical fallacy.

However, if I argue that X is a racist by pointing out examples of X's racism, that is NOT an Ad Hominem attack. It is simply an assertion proceeded by evidence.

See the difference?

I'll bet you can.

So....when I say that SFailure is a racist and then give the latest example of this as being his written desire to "nuke Isarel first", I am simply proving my original assertion.

There is no ad hominem argument even remotely being made.

SFailure may have some fine, well-thought out and truthful views about a variety of subjects. However, his posts consistently show him to be a racist.

That's all there is to it.

fresca

by fresca Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 4:06 PM

Would you kindly change my diaper?

Why is it racist to nuke Israel.

by Mary Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 4:42 PM

I would consider it an outrageous act to nuke any country. However, why would nuking Israel be racist and nuking Japan not be racist?

Orient

by east Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 4:46 PM

Japan attacking Pearl Harbor was racist.

Well!

by Sheepdog Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 4:50 PM

So much for THIS silly excuse for a thread.

fresca, you are weak.

HaHaHa

yes

by si Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 4:54 PM

>So much for THIS silly excuse for a thread.

I agree. It went into goofy mode right after the following comment was made.

>As you well know...

mossad always uses the same tactics....

Like Mossad gives a shit about Indymedia.

Well, obviously....

by fresca Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 5:00 PM

"However, why would nuking Israel be racist and nuking Japan not be racist"



....for the reason that we are not at war with Israel. Israel has never attacked us so the only reason one could possibly be in favor of nuking Israel is if they are racists.

Aside from all that is the fact that SFailure isn 't even thinking this deeply. He simply hates Jews.

Why is it so hard for you all to accept that one of the "leftist" members of this board might be racist? Do you honestly believe that everyone on the far left is somehow categorically free from all character defects?

He's a fucking racist. End of story.

The silence of the liberals here amazes me sometimes.

by Eric Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 5:00 PM

Always so quick to shoot of at the keyboard when the believe themselves in the right. But when someone points out their obvious soiled character traits (such as the fact that utterfailure is a racist), they have very little to say.

HaHaHa

by Sheepdog Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 5:02 PM

it's good to quote me. Do it often.

And it's funny that you would capitalize mossad.

yes you are predictable, but not too intelligent.

Sorry

by fresca Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 5:06 PM

I'm much too simpleminded to understand your post. I'm a conservative.

HAHAHA

by si Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 5:08 PM

I think circles around you. Always have. Always will.

Watch out. Mossad's outside your window.

si

by fresca Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 5:10 PM

There's a Muslim underneath my bed. Will you kill him for me?

fake fresca

by si Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 5:14 PM

I'll talk to the Muslim about invading your privacy. Right after I shoot you.

,,,,,,,,,....,,,,,,,,,

by X Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 5:14 PM

HaHaHaHa

gag

HaHaHa !!!

deam on little girl....

si

by fresca Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 5:15 PM

Look out! The "faker" is outside your window! You need help.

I thought the faker was hiding in the closet?

by Eric Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 5:19 PM

Didn't we already discern his rampant homosexuality once today?

Eric

by si Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 5:20 PM

The faker's everywhere!!! Can I borrow your straightjacket?

The faker's you you fucking homo

by Max Thrasher Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 5:22 PM

You flagrant fairy. Go play tiddley-winks fudge packer.

Maxine Thrasher

by KOBE SBM Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 5:24 PM
kobehq@yahoo.com

Would you be willing to give me a golden shower?

www.kobehq.com

faker

by faker Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 5:26 PM

Poor faker. Coping other people and using their names to write under is all he's got to work with. Libs. faker is their best and brightest at work. 2004- lookin' good!

faker

by KOBE SBM Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 5:28 PM
kobehq@yahoo.com

I'm a conservative. Are you into golden showers?

www.kobehq.com

I'm in to golden showers.

by Dave Young Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 5:44 PM

Tom and I provide this service to each other on a regular basis.

Don't forget me.

by Ned Lyle Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 5:46 PM

Afterall, I give you all a place to pee on each other. Give me some credit here.

Sieg Heil!

I miss Boston.

by Thomas Lasswell Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 5:53 PM
hockey8457@aol.com

I'm happy to be back with my KOBE buddies, but when I was at Wentworth, back in Boston, no one peed on me.

I like KOBE.

by Neal Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 5:56 PM
pithy@attbi.com

It gives me something to write about. Writing screen plays that bomb takes some inspiration. KOBE inspires me. It helps me express my latent hate for everyone different than me.

I think KOBE is God.

by Scott Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 5:58 PM
watersounds@att.net

KOBE is out to crush the non-believers. That's why I love and worship KOBE.

redux

by fresca Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 7:04 PM

"The hate from this valley skinhead nazi just never ends.

Posting as Daveman on a recent thread (the fulcrom of Evil) Failure had this to say:

"I think we should nuke israel first. "

Now where would anyone get the idea that this fat, white, skinhead is racist?

You should learn how to mask or change your IP nazi.

girl

by Ivan Badanov Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 7:18 PM

don't you know when your spam and garbage is boring?

Guess not.

For truant Dio

by fresca Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 7:34 PM

"frescaw your ad hominem attacks "

Dio, let's get you up to speed with some simple logical fallacies and their uses.

If I argue against X's point by simply stating that X is an idiot so THEREFORE X's point must be invalid, that is an Ad hominem attck. It is a logical fallacy.

However, if I argue that X is a racist by pointing out examples of X's racism, that is NOT an Ad Hominem attack. It is simply an assertion proceeded by evidence.

See the difference?

I'll bet you can.

So....when I say that SFailure is a racist and then give the latest example of this as being his written desire to "nuke Isarel first", I am simply proving my original assertion.

There is no ad hominem argument even remotely being made.

SFailure may have some fine, well-thought out and truthful views about a variety of subjects. However, his posts consistently show him to be a racist.

That's all there is to it.

So what

by NEW X Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 10:30 PM

So what. All Americans are racist.

That's right, X Marks the Spot...

by daveman Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 11:52 PM

...all Americans are racist.

All of us. Everyone of us, from every ethnic background on the planet, we're all racist.

Is "stupid" a race? That's the only people I'm prejudiced against.

And man, do I get a workout in here.

I feel so honored

by systemfailure Wednesday, May. 21, 2003 at 1:01 AM

WOw, valley racist skinhead nazi?

COuld you think of any more adjectives?

Racist?

Laughable.

Fascist fresca is always going on and on

always TROLLing

my name.

Because I argue against zionism and naziism

i guess that makes me hate all jews and whites?

Are serious?

Not a racist.

never have been.

See ya at the KOBE protest on Saturday May 24th

1:00pm S.H.A.R.P.

Ps

HA HA Ha

Ha HA HA

HA H@ HA

FUck fresca, davegirl, bu-shit admiral, and eric... (daveman) and

all other traitors to the constitution.

pss

never said nuke israel

but

if you have proof of my IP

go ahead and post it for all to see.

hee hee hee

welcome hater

by fresca Wednesday, May. 21, 2003 at 1:13 AM

Welcome you fucking scumbag.

I'm getting a kick outa hounding you.

It's just because I've never had the chance to

have a fucking nazi like you

so close at hand and

so eager to rise to the bait.

I'll be honest,

before coming around here

I had no idea how racist the left was.

I figured them for fools but

was honestly amazed at the blatant anti-semitism and racism.

Who knew?

You're the poster boy of that.

All loud talk and teenage intellect.

And lots of hate.

Anyway, have fun trying to trample the free speach

of another bunch of losers

After all, losers don't have free speach do they?

Have a good night adolf.











lord

by Smarmster Wednesday, May. 21, 2003 at 1:28 AM

you sound like someone who has been stiffed for a dinner

and got no sex....

What was my IP again?

by systemfailure Wednesday, May. 21, 2003 at 1:32 AM

Fresca, is it that time of the month again?

Im not a racist.

Ha

HA

h@

()^^Sy'SteM*^F@iLuRe*!*RulEZ)(^

Ha Ha HA

Fascist Fresca has bitch tits.

hmmm

by fresca Wednesday, May. 21, 2003 at 1:37 AM

"Im not a racist.

Ha

HA

h@

()^^Sy'SteM*^F@iLuRe*!*RulEZ)(^ "



Yet there's no evidence of that.

And, jesus, tell me you didn't actually just refer to yourself in the third person and announce that you "rulr". Are you in ninth grade or what?

redux for dumbfux

by SySteMF@iLuRe Wednesday, May. 21, 2003 at 4:52 AM

Still waiting for my IP address Fascist fresca.

You one crazy girl.

i noticed on of your posts a little further up and decided that i would rip it to shreads............

Well, obviously....

by fresca • Monday May 19, 2003 01:00 PM

"However, why would nuking Israel be racist and nuking Japan not be racist"

....for the reason that we are not at war with Israel. Israel has never attacked us so the only reason one could possibly be in favor of nuking Israel is if they are racists.

So it that logic (say Iraq for instance)

lemme see here.....

Your explaination for not "nuking" israel is that they have never attacked us?

Please list relevant links showing the times and dates of the Iraqi attacks on america.

also i'd like to see some info on Iraqi racism.

you so silly.

I'd like to fuck the stupidity out of you, but

i dont like dumb bitches.

fresca probally gives head like she invented it...

and the lesson of the day boys and girls..

God loves all Jews, Christians, and Muslims

God hates all zionists, nazis, and islamic extremists.

SO dont be a hater like fascist fresca.

and

dont TROLL under false monikers.

Smell ya later.

sissiefailure

by daveman Wednesday, May. 21, 2003 at 8:21 AM

"Your explaination for not "nuking" israel is that they have never attacked us?

Please list relevant links showing the times and dates of the Iraqi attacks on america."

That's not what Fresca said. Fresca said we are at war with Iraq. Pay attention.

"you so silly.

I'd like to fuck the stupidity out of you, but

i dont like dumb bitches.

fresca probally gives head like she invented it..."

Excellent debate technique: whenever you don't have anything relevant to the topic, just get obscene.

daveman

by fresca Wednesday, May. 21, 2003 at 10:50 AM

Would you like a blowjob from a toothless wench like me? Or are you a Log Cabin Republican?

failure

by fresca Wednesday, May. 21, 2003 at 1:33 PM

"So it that logic (say Iraq for instance)

lemme see here.....

Your explaination for not "nuking" israel is that they have never attacked us?

Please list relevant links showing the times and dates of the Iraqi attacks on america.

also i'd like to see some info on Iraqi racism.

"

In answering the original question which someone asked as to why it was NOT RACIST to nuke Japan but would be to nuke Isarel, my answer is sound .

You're misunderstanding of logic which has somehow asked how it's okay to nuke Iraq then, is simply crazy talk I can't begin to control.

You can play around with that yourself as you slobber all over the prospect of another Jewish Holocaust.

Just so you know since your conspiracy theory addled mind may think otherwise; Iraq has not been nuked nor has there been discussion of it here until you posited it.

Go back to your factory and plan the next lynching.

fresca

by fresca Wednesday, May. 21, 2003 at 1:34 PM

Can you not afford dentures?

BTW

by fresca Wednesday, May. 21, 2003 at 1:34 PM

"i noticed on of your posts a little further up and decided that i would rip it to shreads............ "

That didn't pan out did it.

You completely fucked that one up.

fresca

by fresca Wednesday, May. 21, 2003 at 1:35 PM

Can you not afford dentures?

fresca

by fresca Wednesday, May. 21, 2003 at 1:36 PM

It's the kind of blind hatred you profess that is

preparing the next jewish slaughter. You're just

not bright enough to see it.

please...

by fresca Wednesday, May. 21, 2003 at 1:58 PM

"It's the kind of blind hatred you profess "

Now when have I professed blind hatred.

I hate Failures racism (I would think you would too) but as for the person who knows?

fresca

by fresca Wednesday, May. 21, 2003 at 2:01 PM

Can you not afford dentures?

daveman

by fresca • Tuesday May 20, 2003 06:50 AM



Would you like a blowjob from a toothless wench like me? Or are you a Log Cabin Republican?

i love all cultures,religions and races.

by Sy$teMFaiLuRe Thursday, May. 22, 2003 at 9:27 PM

Fascist fresca

If you cant differentiate between symbols of allogory in your own statements then you are ignorant.

You equated that we arent at war (or "nuking")israel because they have never attacked us.

now in light of this.

I was showing you on the same level that Iraq had never attacked the US, yet we invaded thier country and essentially "nuked" it with all the tonnage of bombs and DU ammunition.

Thanks for proving yourself to be a dumbass (once again) he he he

ps

You going to the KOBE protest on the 24th?

I'll be there.......




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