PROOF THAT THE WORLD TRADE CENTER WAS DELIBERATELY DEMOLISHED.

EVIDENCE: BOTH OF THE TOWERS FELL IN ABOUT 10 SECONDS.

PROOF:

All that one needs to know, to be able to conclusively prove that the Twin Towers were demolished, is that the towers fell in roughly 10 seconds, that is, that they fell at about the same rate that an object falls through air.

Anyone with a little common sense will realize that the top of a building does not pass through the concrete and steel that comprises the lower portion of the building at the same rate that it falls through air. This just doesn't happen, unless, of course, the lower part of the building has lost its structural integrity (and this is usually due to the detonation of a multitude of small explosive charges as seen in controlled demolitions).

The fact that the towers collapsed in about 10 seconds is a statement that the upper portion of each of the towers passed through the lower portion at about the same rate that it would have fallen through air. The fact that the towers fell this quickly (essentially at the rate of free-fall) is conclusive evidence that they were deliberately demolished.

Believing that there is nothing wrong with the towers collapsing so quickly, is roughly analogous to believing that people pass through closed doors as quickly as they pass through open doors.

The fact that they fell at such a rate means that they encountered essentially no resistance from the supposedly undamaged parts of the structure. That is, no resistance was encountered from any of the immensely strong parts of the structure that had held the building up for the last 30 years. From this one can conclude that the lower undamaged parts were actually very damaged (probably by the detonation of a multitude of small explosive charges as is usual in a controlled demolition).

Download the entire www.nerdcities.com/guardian site
as one 16 Megabyte file.
First download the file guardian20jan03.tgz by Clicking Here or Clicking Here if the first link is down.

Microsoft users will Left Click while (depending on your browser) Linux/Unix users should Shift Left Click.

Save the file guardian20jan03.tgz in C drive (or some other directory of your choice).

Microsoft users will use WinZip to decompress the file and open up the directory structure.
Linux/Unix users will use the command tar -zxf guardian20jan03.tgz and
Apple users will use Stuffit.

WinZip gives an error message "Trailing garbage in GZIP file, decompression ended", however, the files have been decompressed and everything is OK. Click OK to the error message and then Extract to finish.

You should end up with a main directory called www.nerdcities.com with a subdirectory called guardian and further subdirectories. The directory structure has been chosen to mirror the www.nerdcities.com/guardian website.

Now point your web browser at the main index, that is, enter the following address (URL)

C:\www.nerdcities.com\guardian\index.html or
/www.nerdcities.com/guardian/index.html for Linux/Unix users

and you will see the usual index page for the www.nerdcities.com/guardian website. Once you have found it, bookmark it, so that it is easy to return to. Of course, if you did not save the file in C drive (or the root directory), then these addresses will have to be adjusted by adding the name of the directory that you originally choose to save the file in, that is, it will have to be changed to something like:

C:\original-directory-name\www.nerdcities.com\guardian\index.html or
/original-directory-name/www.nerdcities.com/guardian/index.html

All this is second nature to those accustomed to their operating system. Enjoy.

One of the characteristics of conspiracy theories is that they are irrefutable, by virtue of being infinitely flexible. Present a conspiracy theorist with evidence that argues against his theory, and he will explain that it actually confirms the theory. To him, evidence that appears contrary simply illustrates the conspirators' power to manipulate appearances.

Ah, at least he presents evidence, as opposed to you, jerk.

and you don't know anything, SO SHUT UP!

"ct" whatever it is spammed all of the threads on the Towers, that I have read so far, with the same generalized statement.

"ct" presents no facts just assaults on the integrity of anyone who dares hold an opinion different from it's.

One of the most anomalous pieces of data in the whole mess is the rate of speed at which the towers collapsed. If they had pancaked one floor banging into the next the questions remain:

1. How did this violation of the laws of inertia take place i.e., each pancake should have, at least momentarily slowed the collapse of the building? The only way this would not have happened is if the structural members underneath were somehow removed. One way, the only one I can think of, is if they were removed by explosive charges cutting out the supports.

2. Why did the buildings, all of them, collapse straight down into a pile of rubble? If there were no explosions one would think that the collapse would have been asymetric which at some point would have caused the collapsing building to tip over. None of the buildings tipped.

If someone can explain those without allowing for some agency removing the structural supports uniformly would you please give me the winning numbers for the next Lottery Drawing?

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I DON'T know.

And yet another!!!!!

Here it is again. Same BS, new month.

If you are intellectually serious/curious about this topic, do yourself a favor and do some real research. Rather than relying solely on the "analysis" of nerdcities.com, do yourself a favor and search for the study conducted by the American Society of Civil Engineers. Not only did they analyze the video, they analyzed physical evidence from the fallen towers.

www.asce.org

The ASCE/FEMA study is here:

http://www.fema.gov/library/wtcstudy.shtm

Following is the list of team members who collected the data and conducted the ASCE/FEMA WTC study (you should compare it to the credentials of the nerdcities engineers, if available):



W. Gene Corley, Ph.D., P.E., Lead

Senior Vice President

Construction Technologies Laboratories, Skokie, Illinois

Expert in building collapse investigations; principal investigator, Murrah Federal Office Building Study.

William Baker, P.E., S.E. Partner

Skidmore Owings & Merrill LLP

Expert in tall-building design.

Jonathan Barnett, Ph.D.

Professor, Center for Fire Safety Studies

Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, Massachusetts

Expert in building fire safety design and fire computer modeling.

David T. Biggs, P.E.

Ryan-Biggs Associates, Troy, New York

Expert in facades.

Bill Coulbourne, P.E., S.E.

Principal

URS Corporation, Gaithersburg, Maryland

Edward M. DePaola, P.E.

Partner

Severud Associates Consulting Engineers, New York, New York

Expert in structural engineering.

Robert F. Duval

Senior Fire Investigator

National Fire Protection Association

Expert in fire investigations.

Dan Eschenasy

Chief, Structural Engineering

City of New York

Dept of Design and Construction

John T. Fisher, P.E.

Joseph T. Stuart Professor of Civil and Environmental Engineering

Lehigh University, Bethlehem, Pennsylvania

Expert in metallurgy and connections.

Richard G. Gewain

Senior Engineer

Hughes Associates, Inc., Baltimore

Expert in fire engineering.

Ramon Gilsanz

Managing Partner

Gilsanz Murray Steficek, New York, New York

Expert in structural engineering.

John L. Gross, Ph.D., P.E.

Leader

Structural Systems and Design Group Building and Fire Research Laboratory

National Institute of Standards and Technology, Gaithersburg, Maryland

Expert in steel design and fire-structure interaction.

Ronald Hamburger, P.E., S.E.

Senior Vice President

EQE Structural Engineers Division, ABS Consulting, Belmont, California

Expert in structural analysis and design.

Nestor Iwankiw

Vice President, Engineering and Research

American Institute for Steel Construction, Chicago, Illinois

Expert in steel design.

Venkatesh Kodur, Ph.D., P.E.

Institute for Research in Construction

National Research Council of Canada, Ottawa, Ontario

Expert in fire effects on materials.

Eric Letvin

Department Head, Hazards Engineering Group

Greenhorne & O'Mara, Greenbelt, Maryland

Jon Magnusson, P.E.

Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer

Skilling Ward Magnusson Barkshire, Inc., Seattle, Washington

Expert in structural analysis and high-rise design.

Christopher E. Marrion, P.E.

Fire Strategist

Arup Fire, New York, New York

Expert in fire engineering.

Therese P. McAllister, Ph.D., P.E.

Senior Structural Engineer

Greenhorne & O'Mara, Greenbelt, Maryland

James Milke, Ph. D., P.E.

Professor, Department of Fire Protection Engineering

University of Maryland

Expert in fire resistance analysis.

Harold E. "Bud" Nelson

Senior Research Engineer

Hughes Associates, Inc.

James A. Rossberg, P.E.

Director, Structural Engineering Institute

American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE), Reston, Virginia

Saw-Teen See, P.E.

Managing Partner

Leslie E. Robertson Associates, New York, New York

Expert in structural analysis and high-rise design.

Robert Smilowitz

Principal

Weidlinger Associates, New York, New York

Expert in blast effects.

Bruce Swiren

Hurricane Program Manager, Region II

Federal Emergency Management Agency, New York, New York

Paul Tertell, P.E.

Program Manager, Building Performance Assessment Team

Federal Emergency Management Agency, Washington, D.C.

for the list of co conspirators. it will be useful

in the trials phase.

1.the fema pigs were at least intellectually honestin that they wrote in their report that the cause for the towers collapse could not be definitively determined and that the matter needed further study.

2.the simple,brilliant point made by nerd city - any kid with basic phisics understands it.

none of the moles can refute it.

WE WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AND NOW:impeach and execute bush and his gang of thugs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To see how fraudulent the http://www.fema.gov/library/wtcstudy.shtm is:

Have a read of http://indyhawaii.org/news/2003/07/2962.php

which is a review of the FEMA report on the collapse of World Trade Center 7.

The FEMA report is a JOKE. Signed, Another Engineer.

The rebuttals in that WTC7 thread speak for themselves. I especially like the jbusch post :-)

you especially like bullshit.