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by swirlygirl
Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 6:49 PM
L.A. Anarchist Gary Rumor was banned from flying to the Bay Area to attend the Anarchist Book Fair and Conference.
Due to heightened security measures of the "Code Orange" level of government repression, Gary Rumor was banned by Southwest Airlines from flying to the Bay Area this past weekend to attend the SF Anarchist Book Fair and the Anarchist Conference, where he was scheduled to lead a workshop. This was not because of any warrants or arrests. He was detained at the airport for 12 hours because of his political viewpoints. No arrest was made, and he was released too late to arrange alternative travel arrangements. He was not informed about being on any no-fly list before arriving at the airport, and was not permitted to leave once he checked in. Anti-war and other activists has often recently found their names on a no-fly list when they attempt to travel. Airlines will not tell them why they are on the list or who in fact creates those lists. As far as I know, there is no way to know if you're on the list until you check in for a flight, and at that point you're detained. Often, activists have only been held for a couple of hours, just enough time for them to miss their flights. Unfortunately, this isn't something you can plan to avoid, unless you eschew air travel completely. Just be aware that this could happen to anyone, even if she or he has a clean record and/or does not participate in militant street activity.
by The best defense...
Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 8:07 PM
I'd really like to spread the word about this story. Please let me know how I can get independent confirmation of it. No slam on your credibility, swirlygirl, I just need another source.
Thanks.
by lefty
Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 8:21 PM
I believe it hook, line and sinker. If it is something that is an even just an allegation which our government has done in order to repress and damage one of our comrades, it does not need confirmation. If you were to tell me that they physically beat him within an inch of his life and poured gas on him and lit him on fire I would believe it because I HATE AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by AIRY
Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 8:51 PM
So it's not a good time to go to Everest right now?
by Parmenides
Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 8:59 PM
If you really believe that 'lefty', if that is your real name, than you are in the wrong place. Most people here love this nation so much they are willing to risk arrest and persecution to ensure that everyone has the right to self-determination. I do somehat hesitate including anrachists in this...but I do becuase they are so dedicated to principles of liberty which bush and his clones seek to destroy.
But I think you are a provocateur, a coward, who does not even realize how tightly wrapped in the chains of slavery to the rotten core of corrupt oligarchs you are. So go away, back to your filthy masters den to suck the marrow from the bones he spits out as leftovers.
And where would our movement be w/o the anarchists? We need to thank them, protect them, and include them always as we seek to get our country back from the capitalist vampires who bleed the planet and wipe their asses with the Bill of Rights.
by mymicz
Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 9:03 PM
If this is true, which it sounds very very plausible, then I have to ask, what legal action is Gary taking? And can we help by writing anyone? I worry because I am flying to Israel this summer, if my name is on the list I may not be able to go and my grandmother is very ill there. I would recon anyone who has registered opposition by contacting Senators is vulnerable.
by Leftist
Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 9:09 PM
"Most people here love this nation ..."
No. Most here are just like me. That's why I love this place. If you disagree with Bush, hate Republicans, hate right-wingers, disagree with this fascist war, then you HATE AMERICA just like I HATE AMERICA and live for the day when it falls and we can burn the Constitution which was written by white slave owners and take a piss on the Bill of Rights and we can destroy capitalism and establish an economically equal people one day that is communist/socialist/marxist/anarchist where all can be free!! NO WAR BUT CLASS WAR!! NO MAPS BUT TOPO MAPS!!
by Eric
Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 10:02 PM
The above post is mine. Aren't I clever?
by downtown-mania
Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 10:04 PM
I think you can probably confirm it if you contact the folks that put the conference on. The website for the conference is www.sfbay-anarchists.org.
by downtown-mania
Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 10:05 PM
I think you can probably confirm it if you contact the folks that put the conference on. The website for the conference is www.sfbay-anarchists.org.
by downtown-mania
Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 10:08 PM
I think you can confirm this story if you contact the folks who put the conference on. I mean, they had a workshop cancelled because of this, they oughtta know. The website for the conference is www.sfbay-anarchists.org.
by !%@$^@%@()&@!)&*@^))!^
Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 10:08 PM
it wants to to play over here! Ok, let's play.
BTW. I didn't post the comment genius. You're just out-numbered and there's little you can do to change it.
Very very busy.
by Dergie
Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 10:11 PM
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Are these protesters really "pro-peace/anti-military" or in reality "anti-government/anti-American" (you be the judge)!?
by Eric
Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 11:15 PM
I'm just so clever! I got my freeper friends to come hear and act like idiots.
by Eric
Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 11:15 PM
I'm just so clever! I got my freeper friends to come here and act like idiots.
by There is enough shit here as it is.
Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 11:37 PM
by Adrian Redgewood
Wednesday, Apr. 02, 2003 at 12:49 AM
ARedg1@aol.com
In 1997 Mr Rumor was held at LAX after an allegation was made by a femail passenger on an American Airlines flight that Mr Rumor had sexually assaulted her. Although the charges were dropped, Mr Rumor's name is in fact on a list of "problematic passengers" which is activated during times of heightened security. In 2001, the far-right John Birch Society oublished the list (deleting non-leftists, of course) after an English supporter obtained a copy from the British Civil Aviation Authority. I did try to find a copy of the story relating to the list being leaked in the UK Guardian, but alas it charges for finer searches. I am not saying these allegations that were made are in anyway true, but I can confirm that Mr Rumor's name was on that and that was why.
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