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Iraq Peace Team Update

by Voices in the Wilderness Sunday, Mar. 23, 2003 at 12:34 AM
info@vitw.org

March 21, 2003 Kathy Kelly and Ramzi Kysia in Baghdad with Voices in the Wilderness' Iraq Peace Team. They are there to bear witness with the Iraqi People. Per phone this morning, they communicated this to people at the U.S. Voices in the Wilderness Office.

March 21, 2003 Kathy Kelly and Ramzi Kysia in Baghdad with Voices in the Wilderness' Iraq Peace Team. They are there to bear witness with the Iraqi People. Per phone this morning, they communicated this to people at the U.S. Voices in the Wilderness Office.

Here is what Kathy and Ramzi had to say this morning:

Kathy:

"People in our team here are heartened by news of actions in the United States to continue antiwar momentum. The bombings last night were

intense for about thirty minutes beginning at 9:10 last night. But, compared to

what people were bracing themselves for, which was the "Shock & Awe" saturation bombing, these attacks have seemed limited. We're getting

rumors and some hard news, mostly from journalists who tell us what seems

to be going on.

"Today I had a chance to go and visit families in three different neighborhoods and the neighborhoods were fairly calm. There is still

not much in the way of a military presence on the streets other than sand bags

that are piled up at various intersections.

"I visited the family of a friend who left for Amman a few weeks ago, and that

is always a wonderful place to be. Her family - all women - are full of energy,

there is no man in the house. They were very welcoming towards us and didn't want us to go. The grandmother just held on to me, clung to me,

begged me 'Please, please stay and spend the night here with us.' But I would be no protection. They are quite close to what I think is a military storage depot. They begged us to come back and eat with them. With their

slim rations I think that is very telling.

"And then there is Kareema's family. They have just now come to visit us at the hotel. This is the family I am the most worried about. They are in a pretty precarious spot, and their neighbors seem to know it. Many of them have

left now. I will get a chance to talk more with them this afternoon when they come here to stay with us. But we haven't received permission from the hotel owners for them to stay here."

Ramzi:

"Wednesday, the day it started, I went around to some of the high schools that we've been working with to do letter exchanges and diaries.

Schools were in session. About half the students weren't there. Some were staying at

home with their folks but a lot of families did leave Baghdad if they could.

"I talked to the teachers, talked to some students. Everybody seemed to be

in pretty good spirits. One of the English teachers did break down in front of

me afterwards. She was really, really scared. She was scared about the U.S. possibly using chemical weapons here, she was scared about this

new bomb she heard of - you know, 'the mother of all bombs'. She really just

wanted to vent with somebody. So I listened to what she had to say, tried to comfort her as much as I could.

"The kids talked about how hard it had been the day before on Tuesday. That was the last official day of school even though some kids came in on Wednesday. On Tuesday everybody said good-bye to one another. They said it was a really emotional experience. They didn't know whether

they were going to see their friends again or how long it might be. Wednesday had a very strange feel to it. Sort of like a holiday. Not that people were joyous, but everything was very slow, very easy. Not too much traffic. It was

slightly overcast. It was as if you know, you're living somewhere in the United States and the weather reports are saying there's about to be a

hurricane and people are just going about their business preparing for the hurricane.

No panic. But you saw people taping up their windows, getting supplies, just

trying to get ready for what was about to happen.

"Thank God we haven't had saturation bombing here in Baghdad for the last couple days. The life here has been very normal. People are out on the

street. The markets were open. I think though that its not going to stay like

this. We hear there are several American armored divisions approaching Baghdad, the B-52s in Britain are being fueled up and are ready to go

for saturation bombing, maybe tonight. And you know, there is an air of bravado

among people here. They tell you that the United States has bombing them for the last 12 years and they're still here. But I think underneath

that everybody is very scared. I know I'm very scared.

"Personally, I thought that the United States wasn't going to being bombing last night until after midnight, wait until people had settled in, in order to minimize civilian casualties. That was the time frame that I was going on.

And I went upstairs to my room to take a shower and I heard the air raid sirens. And then the sirens cut off after a minute. I brushed my teeth

and waited a little bit - nothing happened for about 10 minutes so I figured that it

was a false alarm. Then I got into the shower. I was all lathered up and then

BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM! they started bombing. I very quickly rinsed, put on my clothes and went downstairs. Everybody had gathered in the tea

room here at the Al Fanar, and I think I was the most nervous of everybody here. The team seemed fine. They were playing chess, people were

drinking tea, journaling. The Iraqis here were all talking and laughing. They

hit a couple buildings across the river. We've heard conflicting reports. Two

buildings behind the Ministry of Planning, some people have said it was the

old National Assembly, others said it was the building that housed Deputy

Prime Minister Tariq Aziz's office.

"There's a little bit more military out on the street than you usually see here,

but there is in no way an overwhelming presence. In fact when I was in

Lebanon, 3 or 4 years ago, I saw much, much more military on the

streets

there. Its really kind of eerie. To look at Baghdad it does not seem to be a

nation that is at war. But I do know that things are much worse in other parts of

the country.

"Were talking about the possibility of doing several things if there is a real

heavy bombing. One is to do war crimes monitoring. Curtis Doebbler, who is

an international lawyer has been in touch with us and he has a sheet that he prepared for the ICRC [International Committee of the Red Cross] in

Bosnia to do monitoring of violations of humanitarian law. So were going to

see if were going to be able to go to hospital emergency rooms and to bombing

sites to interview people in order to provide that information to groups that

are going to be looking at what the United States does here. We've also been talking to relief agencies and if its at all possible were going

to try and volunteer with them to provide direct assistance to people. And of course to

do journaling and writing and to be a presence in the city to visit with the people that we've come to love - to be a voice in the wilderness for

them.

"The group mourns what is happening to Iraq and what has been happening the last 13 years. Its really horrendous. Hundreds of thousands of

people in this country have been killed because of greed and short-sightedness on

the part of politicians on all sides. Millions of people now are risk. And who knows what's going to happen in this war. If they do saturation bombing here thousands of people are going to die. I don't know how many have died

already in the campaign. And I think the long-term consequences really

could be horrendous.

"So we mourn. We really do mourn for what's happening to this country. I think at the same time though, were trying to not let George Bush or Tony Blair or Saddam Hussein depress us. You hear the phrase: life is a joy. It should be a joy. The reason that we work so hard here in Iraq is because that choice for life to be a joy has been taken away from so many people.

Violently taken away from them. And I don't think we can let that happen to us."

Kathy:

"It is almost impossible for me to imagine that bombings to the extent

of what

I heard here last night and the previous morning - if they happened in

Chicago - would result in people carrying on with ordinary days. Part

of it is

people having been inured to warfare and its also a sign of a really

particular kind of courage and dignity within the population here. Its

really

very, very amazing to me.

"If Chicago was under attack - and people known to be from the attacking country were in Chicago - it's hard for me to imagine that they'd be

sitting in a pleasant hotel tea room together. So when I think of Baghdad and Chicago

in that light,I love Chicago, I miss it - I think it's a city that's full of a terrific

diversity of people - but I often think: What would be happening in Chicago if

what's happening here were happening there?

"I really think it is not overstating the case, because we are hearing this kind of news from all over the world, that we are approaching what

would be near critical mass for stopping war-makers. I hope with all my heart

that the Bush administration doesn't go ahead with this shock and awe. I think

that if they don't do it there probably will be more of a tapering off. If

they do it, I think that the momentum is going to be very steady and every long day everybody puts in, it can be worth it now for a long, long

time."


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