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Question

by Nina Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 2:43 PM

Please American mates give me an answers:

What are you doing to ensure that Bush is not re-elected next year?

Woha

by Stei Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 2:52 PM

Nothing.

He is a great President in tough times.

Absentee ballots

by Sheepdog Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 2:57 PM

Dear Nina:

This time a we need a paper trail.

Simple

by Simple Simon Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 4:50 PM

It's Bush in a walk in '04, followed by Condi Rice in '08. If we can just get some laws changed and some research done on Alzheimer's, we'll be running Ronald Reagan in '16.

Thanks.

OneEyedMan

by KPC Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 5:09 PM

...yeah, I can just see Republicans turning out in droves to vote for a black woman...



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Simple

by Simple Simon Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 5:15 PM

We're the ONLY party that would elect a black woman. We're also the ONLY party that would place black people in cabinet positions of real power. Why? Because we don't see them as black people, we see them as experts in their field who happen to be black. Very different from you former segregationists.

I find your side's obsession with race unsettling.

OneEyedMan

by KPC Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 5:19 PM

I don't consider butler or doorman a positoin of real power...but when you got a moron for pResident...any accomplishment seems grand..

...former segregationist? What the fuck are you talking about, MoronMan?

Simple

by Simple Simon Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 5:57 PM

Secretary of State and National Security Advisor are hardly 'doormen'.

What I am talking about is the Democratic Party's shameful history of segregationism. Or haven't you heard?

Well as it just so happens...

by Diogenes Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 6:02 PM

...that the Dixiecrat/Segregationist/Klan Dominated Wing of the Southern Democratic party have largely shifted their allegiance to the Republican Pary as of the early 70's on through the 80's. So your point?

Simple

by Simple Simon Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 6:05 PM

So Senator Robert KKK Byrd is a Republican?

My, I have been misinformed.

OneEyedMan

by KPC Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 6:18 PM

You're conviniently forgetting Trent Lott and the CCC...

..."CCC", jeez, how thin of a veneer can you apply?

I hear that closet door creakin' again, Fido!

I think you have to be either a closet racist or a self-loathing oreo to be associated with the Republican party...

Simple

by Simple Simon Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 6:22 PM

Trent Lott is not now, nor ever has been, a member of the KKK. I don't know what the CCC is. Are your referring to the Civilian Conservation Corps?

Tell you what KPC. You point out a member of the Klan serving in the US Congress that is a Republican, and you win the argument.

Oh darn. You lose.

Stop it

by mymicz Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 6:25 PM

This incessant waste of time amazes me. O.K. can't we all agree that there are smarter people than Bush to run the U.S.? Even on the Republican side. Just check his test scores, I demand we have some sort of intelligence requirement. You don't want a second rate scholar engineering a Nuclear plant do you? Why would you want one running the regulations over everything Nuclear in the world?

I thought...

by Diogenes Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 6:39 PM

...it was pronounced Nookyulur. At least that's what the pResident always says.

911 - WHAT REALLY HAPPENED?

Simple

by Simple Simon Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 6:43 PM

We've come back to calling Bush dumb? I thought he was an evil Nazi genius. Wow. You can't tell the players without a program.

Where's my Klansman, KPC?

The People Pulling His Strings...

by Diogenes Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 6:50 PM

...are the evil geniuses. He is at best a convienient, and compliant, figurehead. And I don't neccessarily suggest he is stupid - just not very bright. Sort of a "Dry Drunk".

Anticipating your attempted return salvo: Perle, Cheney, Wolfowitless, Rumsfeld et. al., .... And God Only knows for sure who pull their strings.

OneEyedMan

by KPC Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 7:03 PM

Fido: "I don't know what the CCC is"

Council of Conservative Citizens

That's odd...were you defending Trent Lott's racist comments when you didn't even know that he was a member of the KKK suit-&-tie division? Hell, I bet they thought CCC instead of KKK was funny...

http://victorian.fortunecity.com/brambles/499/Racism/Lott-CCC/lott-ccc.html

You're an idiot.

Simple

by Simple Simon Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 7:07 PM

No, you're mistaken.

There is a big difference between having twice given a speech in front of an organization and being a member of an organization.

Lott may have spoken in front of the CCC. Byrd was a member of the KKK (and a high-ranking one at that). Big difference.

And please don't link us to sites which attempt to load executables on our computers. That sucks.

OneEyedMan

by KPC Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 7:09 PM

Racist apologies from a Republican...

...what a surprise!

OneEyedMan

by KPC Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 7:11 PM

...here's what Fido is apologizing for...



http://www.cofcc.org/

OneEyedMan

by KPC Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 7:22 PM

Whaddya Know? Lott was a paid up member according to CCC...

http://www.commondreams.org/views02/1212-06.htm



Fido, you are a clown, one sida you mouth you blather about Republican inclusion...then you doggie dance about that obvious racist, Trent Lott....

Better Docs

by cd Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 7:32 PM

Common Dreams? That rag! Next thing you'll be quoting Noam Chomsky.

Only reliable sources are those I will even consider.

So, if you can't quote Cal Thomas or Thomas Sowell to prove your point, then take it somewhere else.

OneEyedMan

by KPC Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 7:47 PM

Is that it? Is that your rebuttal, this flaccid comment that does not address the facts?

...poor little bootlicker....



Comprehend

by tounderstand Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 8:31 PM

It's not a rebuttal. Tell you what, seeing you're having trouble, to help you from now on if I post a rebuttal I'll say at the top "This is a rebuttal". That means if it's not a rebuttal, I won't put anything at the top indicating so. Can your pea-sized brain(?) comprehend that, son?? We'll see.

Gimme facts and we'll talk, But, "facts" and "commondreams dot org" are polar opposites.

Simple

by Simple Simon Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 8:35 PM

KPC, you have an unnamed source quoted in a publication openly hostile to Lott. This is insufficient. Prove Lott is a member or concede.

Furthermore, for one who always decries 'strawman' arguments, you were quick to attempt this set-up. You STILL have not identified a Republican who is now or ever was a member of the KKK.

SS loves CCC

by hazard Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 8:43 PM

Pimple,

You need to educate yourself about the CCC and other neo-confederate psychopaths that the Republicans are buddies with, and shut the fuck up. Read on:

Re: the CCC: This group considers interracial marriage "white genocide" and prints anti-Semitic diatribes in its publication, The Citizen Informer. "Western civilization with all its might and glory would never have achieved its greatness without the directing hand of God and the creative genius of the white race," wrote Robert Patterson, a CCC columnist last autumn. "Any effort to destroy the race by a mixture of black blood is an effort to destroy Western civilization itself." "There is still time," wrote Patterson in another piece. "The Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 should be repealed!"

Founded in 1985, the CCC is the successor to the racist Citizens Council of America (CCA)--commonly known as the White Citizens Councils--which was founded to oppose school desegregation in the 1950s and was called the "white-collar Ku Klux Klan." One of the CCA's members, Byron de la Beckwith, was the assassin of civil rights leader Medgar Evers.

In a report issued in December the Southern Poverty Law Center was able to link 17 of the publicly known CCC members to various white supremacist and fascist organizations, including the Invisible Empire Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, the Carolina Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, the National Association for the Advancement of White People, the America First Party, and the National Alliance. A delegation from the CCC attended a rally held by the French neo-fascist National Front of Jean-Marie Le Pen in September 1998. The CCC also has ties to the British National Front and its successor, the British National Party.

In 1995 CCC leader Gordon Baum attempted to recruit a man known as the head of security for the neo-Nazi Aryan Nations organization, Vince Reed, into his outfit. Reed, in fact, was an undercover agent specializing in work in terrorist organizations. According to Reed, Baum told him, "The power is not out there in the gun, it's inside Congress. You can battle for the rest of your life with guns and explosives, and you aren't going anywhere. We've got to do it from the inside."

JHC

by slkjflkdj Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 8:44 PM

I've noticed this KPC is like that, too. At least nessie at sf.imc is half-way good at twisting his own words and distoring facts. This guy is missing more than one eye.

:)

by ... Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 8:57 PM

:)...
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:)

Simple

by Simple Simon Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 8:58 PM

Attention Hazard:

The fact that an organization such as CCC exists doesn't mean that Trent Lott is a member of it.

Even if Trent Lott WAS a member of it, it doesn't mean that the Republican Party subscribes to the CCC's agenda.

Al Gore spoke to a group of Chinese military officers. This doesn't make him a member of the Chinese military. Furthermore, it doesn't make any sense to like to the Chinese Ministry of Defense and point out how wacky they are.

Now, what WOULD be a legitimate argument would be that the Democratic Party has an ugly history of segregationism and racism. Senator Byrd of West Virginia was a high ranking member of the KKK. Would you like me to post a link or two to some KKK sites and ask you what the hell are you guys doing supporting crap like that?

Are you getting any of this?

yes

by hazard Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 9:05 PM

Has anyone denied the ugly history of the Dixiecrats? Racism is a rampant American problem. Also, your partisan horseshit is really tiresome and a waste of your and our time.

But, as has been pointed out, and despite your juking and dissembling, the Dixiecrats moved into the Republican party when LBJ made civil rights part of his agenda. Remember, Einstein?

Where is the Black Caucus of the Republican Party? Hmmmm? Trent Lott is a racist draft doding chickenhawk cheerleader, like all these Bush thugs. Get over it.

Where is the Black Caucus?

by licklicklick Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 9:12 PM

The Congressional Black Caucus is too busy licking the boots of the white leaders of the Democratic Party and asking for more handouts to bother with actually helping those who elected them. The old addage of "Give 'em enough money to keep them hoping for progress but outta my neighborhood" is still the motto of the Democrats, and the few blacks they will allow to take the podeum will kiss whatever they need to to keep their face on the front page. Just watch how quickly the Dems will bury Reverand Al Sharpton and relegate him to the dustbin of the presidental race.

So...the original question.

by Sheepdog Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 9:33 PM

-What are you doing to ensure that Bush is not re-elected next year?-

I think that IF we have an election, martial law not withstanding, and if the voter rolls aren't purged again

the public has had a taste of our little shithead and only the remaining braindead, reality avoiding ditto-heads will

vote for him. Use absentee ballots to void the software

cheating and flood the polls with them. We need a paper

trail, this time or we can kiss this attempt at democracy

goodby.

Meanwhile, ask the question:

9-11

What REALLY happened

?

What Really Happened!

by ... Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 10:03 PM

Here's what happened -

1) A bunch of crypto-facist terrorists rammed two planes in the WTC.

2) America opened a can of whoop-ass and has begun killing and hunting down these bastards.

3) Traitors, like you, think it's a Bush-backed plot.

Go be a human shield, you cowards.

Rightwing=cowards and appeasers

by hazard Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 10:10 PM

Rightwing=cowards an...
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The rightwing shills of this country are spreading their collective ass cheeks for the biggest collection of draft dodging chickenhawk traitors to ever disgrace the White House. There is so much information out there uncovering the repeated lies of the Bush Cabal, that anyone still stupid enough to support them has to be a traitor of the highest order. Anyone who supports Bush supports the destruction of our Constitution, and the destruction of our country. At this point, it is inexcusable. Although I don't support these morons being put up against a wall and shot, they should be tarred and feathered.

Simple

by Simple Simon Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 10:19 PM

Hazard, you're beginning to sound incoherent. Yes, some members of the Dixiecrats moved into the Republican Party, but certainly not all, not by a long shot.

Your party has the KKK member in it, not mine. Your party is also the one that panders to minorities with promises of loot and treasure, then pulls the rug out when you get elected. Your party turns inner city children into human sacrifices for the teacher's union by refusing to allow school choice. Your party is a disgrace on matters of race, and is in constant divide and conquer mode turning race against race with rediculous (and patently illegal) 'affirmative action' programs.

A pox upon you.

SS

by hazard Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 10:21 PM

Aint my party, moron. Nice try though.

Simple

by Simple Simon Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 10:26 PM

Very well, I retract the possesive. The point stands about the Democratic Party. I apologize for having associated you with them.

What a bunch of assholes

by POIO Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 11:12 PM

Activists (republican, democrat, and undeclared alike) -> "BUSH SUCKS! DOWN WITH BUSH!"

Shills (mostly republican, or saying they are. many will claim to be christian too. ha) -> "Democrats Suck! You Democrats all suck!"

Activists -> "Huh?! BUSH SUCKS! DOWN WITH BUSH"

Shills -> "Democrats suck! Clinton blah blah! Blah Clinton! Clinton! Clinton!"

Activists -> "BUSH SUCKS! DOWN WI....What the hell man?!? Who cares about clinton. His days are done. What the hell is your problem?"

Shills -> "Clinton bombed Iraq and you said nothing, so shut the hell up!"



DOWN WITH BUSH!

DOWN WITH BUSH!

DOWN WITH BUSH!

And the next time they start talking about what a dick clinton was, tell 'em what a great guy Luke Skywalker was. If they ask why, talk about how glad you are Luke didn't become Darth Vader. Phew. And then carry on...

DOWN WITH BUSH!

Yoda for president in 2004.

Simple

by Simple Simon Tuesday, Mar. 11, 2003 at 11:18 PM

Activists. That's a nice title. Sounds active. Like the BMW X5: The World's First Sport ACTIVITY Vehicle. Test drive one at your local BMW dealer.

You're not activists. You're deluded and silly people.

OneEyedMan

by KPC Wednesday, Mar. 12, 2003 at 1:53 AM

Trent Lott is a racist...

...but Fido says only democrats are KKKers

...But Trent Lott is a racist...



...are all KKKer's racist? Yeeessss

...are all racists KKKers? Nooooo...

The GOP is the party of racists. Everybody knows that...now DANCE, DOGGIE, DANCE THE DANCE OF APOLOGIA FOR TRENT LOTT!!! You certainly don't have the intergrity to condemn him...so, you'll do what you do..

...or you could always fail to recall "I don't recall...never heard of the CCC....Trent said that??? I don't remember..."

Fuckin' eucnuch!

Simple

by Simple Simon Wednesday, Mar. 12, 2003 at 5:28 AM

I'll take all the idiot ramblings as your concession. Let's see, that's a bakers dozen for me and none for you. Keep trying boy. You'll get one someday.

puppy

by Simple Simon's day off Wednesday, Mar. 12, 2003 at 6:46 AM

puppy...
puppy_channel.jpg, image/jpeg, 400x540

When he's not full of himself and his mission to kick ass on LA IMC, he watches the puppy channel to chill out


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