I would like to know what is being done (and by whom) to care for the poor animals at the Baghdad Zoo.

...don't you think actual human beings ought to be carred for first?

NPR recently reported the lions in the zoo were emaciated and starving; the primates in not much better shape.

The caged animals in the zoo have no options during this war -- they cannot escape or find food on their own. These poor unfortunate sentient beings must not suffer the same cruel, inhumane tragic fate as the Sarajevo Zoo inhabitants.

There is no valid reason why these deserving animals must wait for necessary nutrition and veterinary medical care. It is not an either/or situation whereby humans must be cared for first, with the zoo and other equally deserving animals must continue to wait, wait, and wait until they all starve to death. No creature should endure such a fate, human or other species.

I have been concerned about the zoo animals since I heard about the starving lions earlier in the year. Why were they not evacuated by the U.S.? Why weren't citizens of Iraq offered evacuation with border controls?

Did any U.S. or other western alliance zoos offer to fly the animals out? Why not?

... oh please, you knew this post was about the zoo - if you want to express your so called "humanitarianism", post to a site that is concearned with that topic - if you have a problem with "humans" feeling bad about the plight of these creatures, go get yourself a Iraqi soldier to take care of.

Where is the International Fund for Animal Welfare? Does anyone know if any of the international organizations are planning on assisting these poor creatures?

What can the public do to help this along? I would be open to any suggestions.

I would like to send a donation for relief for the animals at the Baghdad Zoo. Can anyone supply me with the information? Of course humans are our first concern, but these animals are helpless and don't deserve to die this way.

I would also like to help the Baghdad Zoo animals. Maybe one of the major animal welfare organizations like the World Wildlife Fund or PETA can help?

Bravo Dennis!! I couldn't have said it better. With so many people concerned you would think somebody would have something set up...donations, help etc. We just have to find out where. Actually I'm just now starting to see more about the zoo on the news. I'm also concerned about the animals that are in the environment. I saw a tank with a dog mascot on it.

The hard life of zoo animals in Iraq isn't new..

http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle.jhtml?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyID=2423945

But for war relief efforts, donations are being taken by:

AZA

c/o Aid to Baghdad Zoo

c/o North Carolina Zoological Society

4403 Zoo Parkway

Asheboro, NC 27205

and

http://www.wspa-americas.org/iraq_1.htm

If we want to restore peace and prosperity to Iraq, we must concern ourselves with all casualties of this war. These poor animals have no control over their fate, it is up to us the supposedly "superior" species to ensure their well being. Unfortunately in almost all of man's dealings with our fellow creatures it seems that they get the worst end of the deal. Let us seize this chance to care for these war victims.

I, also, am driven to aid the horribly suffering animals in the Badhdad Zoo. After some time searching the issue, I found what may the best charity to this affect: The American Zoo and Aquarium Association. They raised almost $500,000 to help the Kabul Zoo and are now starting a similar effort for the Baghdad Zoo. (As with the Kabul project, the North Carolina Zoological Society is coordinating the relief efforts.) Like the Kabul project, this effort will probably be in association with other Zoological Societies and Animal Welfare groups such as the World Society for the Protection of Animals (which has some kind of UN affiliation status .)

Donations can be sent to:

Aid to Baghdad Zoo

c/o North Carolina Zoological Society

4403 Zoo Parkway

Asheboro, NC 27205

Read the very informative press release here: http://www.aza.org/Newsroom/PR_BaghdadZoo/

(I'm sending a check tonight...)

Lee

I think the importance of the animals being taken care of at the Baghdad zoo is as important as the need to care for Iraqi children. Not to totally write off the older Iraqi population but let's face it, their is nothing on this planet more innocent than children and animals. Children are too young to be held accountable for their actions which are rarely that bad(infants and toddlers, not columbine), and, short of being rabid, animals do what they do by nature, never out of malice or hate. Adults however, are, shall we say, tainted? There is no real such thing as an innocent adult human being. So, If we have issues deciding how to prioritize our helping hand efforts, I propose that we start with children and animals in that order, and then work our way to the older population. In addition, I'd like to agree with a point that was made before that applies to children as well as animals in a zoo that they are defenseless. Animals kept in a zoo rely solely on human beings. If I were in charge(and Im sure many of you sleep very soundly at night knowing that Im not)one of the first things I would do would be to save the animals. They do not deserve to feel any shred of the pain of war.

Go to website www.nczoo.com or www.aza.org for an address to send money to help these poor animals.

I was horrified by seeing my first pictures of the Baghdad Zoo today......and I've been glued to all the cable stations for weeks now. I don't know how I missed them before this. What I started doing earlier today was contacting all zoo's and animal protection agencies worldwide by e-mail that I can find on the internet and asking why there isn't some sort of safety net in place to protect these animals before they get into the distress they are in. I feel it's very very bad publicity and public relations for anyone to witness what happens on a bad day at the zoo. They profess to be the caretakers of the world's animals.......I'd like to see them put their money or positions where their mouths are. If they can't insure these animals won't be in such horrible situations....then they should never endorse them ever being caged. If nothing else, these animals should had been euthanized so that they wouldn't had suffered. But to simply walk away and allow them to die slowly from lack of water and food is unexcusable, to say the least. This doesn't seem like such a large zoo that a few helping dollars from the many mega zoo's around the world couldn't help in some way. Possibly the animals could be transported to another zoo near to where they are now. I'm not that familiar with them yet, but I'm going to try and find out. It seems the animal experts just aren't as interested in saving them or relieving them of their pain as we are. Does anyone know if any of the zoo's or animal protection agencies has even gotten involved in this?

I would also like to help the animals in the Baghdad Zoo. If anyone has information on how to donate money please e-mail me at MrsGruesome@hotmail.com.

...truckloads of meat are coming up from Iraq for the animals.

In the meantime, US troops have been feeding the animals what they can out of their own rations.

Also veggies have been sent for the monkeys and non-meat eaters. Now I feel much better

You said "just read on the news" Well, which news are you referring too? Some other tainted news source that goes out of its way to report lies?? They probably aren't doing anything for the animals at all. By the way news gets slandered on this website, I'll be in the next fifteen minutes it will go from "they are being fed" to, "they are being raped, beaten and oppressed by the Marines, the news you're watching is lying!!".

-sarc off

God bless all animals(including Diogenes, I guess)

This article sounds encouraging:

http://www.boston.com/dailynews/108/world/Kuwait_ships_meat_produce_hay_:.shtml

But please continue to donate what you can via the links/addressed mentioned above.

Please pardon the butting in but...

When have animals started a war endangering humans?

When have they put humans in a zoo so people can stare at them?

Animals are amazing creatures. They are a gift from God and we are privileged to share this planed with them. We don't own it anymore than they do.

Us humans, we have destroyed this planet. We are killing every resource. We have bastardized nature and why? For a few comforts and money. We owe animals all over the word bigtime.

Plus last I checked there are around 11,000 different kinds of animals and plants endangered. How many humans are in the same situation?

Saw it on Fox News. Couldn't find any links. Just the embedded reporter's remarks broadcast. At the risk of beling labeled, I believe the guy.

Cry "Shill!" and let slip the dogs of the left!

FMD: Genesis 1:26

"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."

Animals are indeed a gift from God. And, like all gifts, they deserve our consideration and care.

That being said, I eat meat. I wear leather. I eat and drink dairy. I use all sorts of animal products. I'm pretty sure that's what God intended when He gave us dominion over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

I don't approve of fur. I don't approve of people owning animals and not taking proper care of or interacting with them. I'm sure you know someone with a dog tied up in the back yard, never played with, never loved. Pets hould be spayed and neutered. Does Fluffy need a $5,000 liver operation? Even if I could afford it, Fluffy's probably out of luck. But people with other Fluffies will gladly shell out.

You asked how many humans are endangered. Up unitl a month ago, the Iraqis were. There are peoples in Africa facing genocide.

Sorry if this sounds kind of disjointed. It's been a long week.

No, the animals are in cages and are essentially prisoners of humanity. It is absolutely our responsibility to place the care of these animals at the top of our priority list. Because they, unlike people, ABSOLUTELY CANNOT care for themselves.

In addition to God, I also believe in Santy Claus and the Tooth Fairy.

Sure while having a hamburger doesn't make one a soldier of evil... (even though poor ol' Bessie never hurt a fly)because you're not messing up the food chain. If you kill predators you are seriously messing with nature.

Please don't quote the bible. It is a little annoying when people do that. LIke it's the book of absolute truth. It's an interpretation of stories that has been translated and re-interpretated. But that's another argument.

Back to the animals, you argued that the people in Irak were endangered and the people in some African countries are endangered. Well it's people that have made the mess not animals. People are the only creatures that never have enough of anything and who are compelled to destroy anything in their way. Animals just kill to eat. They are at our mercy.

No I don't know anyone who has a dog tied up in the back yard. If I did I would have that dog rescued. I don't associate with people that don't like animals. As far as I'm concerned the way a person is to animals speaks volumes of their characther.

I love animals, too! Sauteed, with garlic, cajun style,

occasionally deep fried, grilled...yum, yum! Sometimes

I even slay a man-eating tomato or a suicidal potato to go with the dracula slaying garlic...is your mouth watering yet??

Uh, you brought up God...I just quoted the Bible

in response.

"As far as I'm concerned the way a person is to animals speaks volumes of their characther."

Well said.

animals have feelings too! don't you think that they hear the bombs? see the carnage? sense the danger? and feel the hunger?all who can, should help the poor animals!they would be taking care of themselves in the wild if man did not put them behind bars to depend upon the availability of people to provide them food and the other basic things that they must have to survive!

I received quite a few messages addressing my question to various zoos as to help being planned for the animals in the Baghdad Zoo. The majority directed that contributions be sent to:

Aid to Baghdad Zoo

c/o North Carolina Zoological Society

4403 Zoo Parkway

Asheboro, NC 27205

I don't want to get into the issues of God or designer leather. But to those who feel deeply for all life on our earth and the wonder of all the universe and want to do something to help to stop some of the suffering that is going on in some way, then I applaud them. And to those who bask in the ability to horrify, threaten and torture......well, I think we've just seen the U.S. and Great Britain take a stand against that type of idealism. I hope there will be some relief to the people of Iraq and also, for the suffering animals that need help, too.

Just to let you know, I spent alot of hours trying to locate people/organizations who would be able to assist with this zoo emergency. One of my contacts was to National Geographic who supplied me with the organization IFAW. This is an international wild rescue outfit and they accept donations. You can go online to them with IFAW.com (I think) and you can earmark your donation specifically for this zoo. Thanks for caring as much as I do.

Davemen, you're just awesome. I just found this site and I love your comments. I thank you for caring and look forward to visiting this site more often. The comments here have been so great about the zoo. I am thrilled that there are plenty of caring people willing to make an effort for these animals. The address for the website I referred people to earlier is actually www.ifaw.org. That will get you directly to this international organization where you can donate.

what would the name of this baghdad zoo be called?

Bear in mind much of what I post is satire or tongue-in-cheek. Occaisionally, I get serious in reponse to something, but mostly I'm here to have fun. I hope you do to.

Blow me, you head queen.

The BIBLE is the truth. Maybe you should read it sometime. If more people lived by the BIBLE, then this world would not be in such a mess. According to news articles yesterday, the animals are finally getting food. This problem with dying and starving animals at this zoo started long before this war started. These animals deserve a better place to live. Gene--- There are plenty of web sites for your mouth, just not here.

Hey, gang. Just wanted to check in this morning and see what's happening before I go punch the beloved clock! Its nice to see the zoo is getting the help it needs and I know that most of us here on this site are truly happy that someone did give a darn about these animals. Everyone-have a great day.

PS: Davemen, keep smilin, I am definitely in it for the giggles :>)

Great...now I'm gonna have performance anxiety.

Do you also believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy?

Daveman does!!!

I thought this site was about the animals at Baghdad Zoo. Has anyone heard anything about the animals getting their food? I can't find any new developments in this. Why was there no preparations in the war planning to help animals in Iraq? I know animals are not a major concern when planning a war, but they should be.

If anyone wants to see a few pictures of the animals at the zoo go to www.msnbc.com/news/901769.asp I have not gone one day without thinking about these animals since I heard it on the news. It breaks my heart to see them in pain.

Good morning, gang - again!

Davemen: You're up to the challenge

L.R. This site is about the animals - two and four legged ones! Last I heard, Kuwait had sent in truckloads of food for the animals and I spent many hours last week contacting people like National Geographic, Animal Planet, Discovery Channel and several smaller national organizations. They must've heard me - and others 'cuz I got word back that several other veterinarian groups are waiting for the 'go ahead' to get food and medical attention in.

Susan: Thnx for the website, lady. I really appreciate it!

Hey you guys, we've built such a nice site, we ought to find somewhere in a chat room we can keep up the clowning. I wouldn't want DAVEMEN to not have a more proper stage to sing songs of Santa and the Tooth Fairy!

See ya, time to get ready for work!

your welcome! Anymore I find, I will post. Boy, you get up early...Have a good day!

My last note said 6:18 a.m., but it was really 9:18 a.m. I think they are adjusting the time to Los Angeles time which puts me 3 hours back. I did not know kat if they did the same thing to you. I was going by the computer that your comment was written at 4:55 a.m. See Ya!

Hi Susan, good mornin to you, too. I live in Utah and yeah, get up early with hubby 5:00 AM!! I don't start til 8:00 but its nice to be up and get the cats in, food, all that junk. Besides, this is a great time to be on the web. I just found this page not too long ago, and I have so far really enjoyed reading the comments. I checked out your website referral, but its old news. Haven't seen much of late, just a clip or two on CNN actually. Wish they'd keep us posted. I hate when they drop a bomb on us like this, then blow it off. Davemen is really a satirist and I enjoy reading his stuff. Some of the folks can be a bit much, but on the whole we all seem to be caring people and its nice to see us unite for these critters. Anyway, thnx for the reply. Wish they'd put the newest msgs at the top instead of the bottom for easier linkup when I check out the comments. You have a great day, too. I write when I can, usually check out the site couple times a day. Later

I live in Atlanta. I'll watch the news and see if there are any new updates. If not I may call the North Carolina Zoo and see if the animals have actually eaten by now. The news only reports when it's bad. When things are good, they stop reporting. I may even call Fox News. We'll see. Have a good work day...

I talked to the director over the North Carolina Zoo. He said as of Saturday, the animals finally got food. It was suppossed to be taken to the animals on Friday, but there was a delay until Saturday. He told me that if the news stopped reporting on the story , then something good must be happening. He said there are about 15 lions and tigers left. Sad news is that in the past week, three got out and they were shot. He said they were a risk to the public. I told him that was a pretty bad way to end their lives after they have already been starved to death. There are a group of veterinarians waiting in Jordan to be able to enter Iraq. I bet someone let the lions out. They have been there this long, why now would they get out to roam the streets. I told him people wanted updates on this story. He said to go to www.nczoo.com for any new developments. This information he told me is not posted on that site. Oh, the 15 tigers, lions also include the ones at Uday's home. He also has a collection that are being fed. I also told him that they should be taken out of that zoo to another country. Thats the last thing those people need right now. They might try to eat them, or be eaten. He said it was being talked about. I feel sorry for the 3 that were shot. He said the soilders had no way to contain them. If they had gotton the vets over there sooner, then they could of sedated the ones that got out. That is all I know. This man I talked to is the one of the people in charge of getting help to the animals. I figure his info is the truth. I may call him back and tell him, that it would be nice to see pictures of the animals eating and being cared for on their site. That along with this information might make all those who care feel a little bit relieved. C-YA...

sososo!!!!

...are you single?

So SO SO I said so>

Susan: Sorry, been causing H & D on other websites. I been reading the other stuff from indymedia and its a crack-up. Thnx for the update on the critters. I found an article about the blind lion Saddam had - it finally died. He was apparently pretty weakened by the starving thing and its probably better that way anyhow. I have also heard that IFAW is waiting in Kuwait and also about the vets in Jordan and SYRIA (believe it or not). That country makes me crazy. I think they're really making an art of burning the candle at both ends and trying not to get burned, ya know?

You need to check out the indymedia.org outfit. Daveman and a couple other loonies, ie: terrist and sheepdog run about up there. Its been fun reading their stuff. Drop in and check it out.

DAVEMAN: Nope, been married 24years this April Fools' Day. I gotta say, you're really funny, tho. I get such a kick out of your cynacism (spelling?).

I'm off to the "zoo". Hope to catch ya both up there,

LOL,

Kat

i am so tired.

heaven awaits us!

test. test. test.

That wasn't me asking about your marital status. But congratulations anyway; Happy Anniversary!

Me? Cynical? I resemble that remark...

So! So ! I said so so s so>

I said so what!

I wanna eat!

I wanna eat too! Lets go!

are we going to eat boys?

I wanna eat some pig.

whacha talking about?

Yankee doodle dandy

Yankee doodle dandy

Time for lights out.

Go Tell It On THe MOuntain...

Go blow my pecker. That is, if you can FIND it.

Is it that small??????

1" erect. No lie.

Could not find it if I tried! Have you thought of a sex change operation, cause your halfway there.

I also have a small penis. Mine is even smaller than daveman's. If you hate Muslims, please visit my website!

www.kobehq.com

What did the Muslims ever do to you. Your a racist, AND your scary.

Thanks for the compliments!

What in the world is going on here? I leave you guys alone for a couple days, and the roof falls in!!! What's this about Muslims? Hey, maybe we should all start disliking people with brown hair and brown eyes, while we're at it, eh?

C'mon folks, don't we have enough of this garbage going on with hairballs like Hussein and old flat face there in North Korea?

We're supposed to set the standard aren't we?

Daveman, help me out here

Do you like men with small penises? If so, will you marry me?

THAT'S NOT THE DAVEMAN YOU KNOW AND LOVE.

WHERE ARE YOU?

wHATCHA WANT.

boomp sha boomp sha boomp

i'm sad! is there anybody out there.

Do you like men with small penises?

I so sorry.

i am a nono.

I am a twinky winky.

;)

;)

;)

;)

i am a fruitcake.

"I feel pretty , oh! so pretty."

As a concerned animal lover I am very stressed about these victims left to fend for themselves or at the worst have to suffer unneedlessly at the mercy of humans. I am hoping there is someway we can help give the animals the care they need .please pass on to the world they need our help.

I feel pretty too!