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MinuteKKKlan having BBQ for Costa Mesa Mayor

by Racism sucks! Wednesday, Jul. 26, 2006 at 5:00 PM

Members of the MinuteKKKlan Project are having a BBQ this Sunday for Allan Mansoor, the neo-Nazi loving Mayor of Costa Mesa!

MinuteKKKlan having ...
minutekkklan_bbq.jpg, image/jpeg, 245x300

Since this event is being held at a public park, anybody can attend -- including YOU!



http://www.ccir.net/EVENTS/2006/060723-Potluck.html

COSTA MESA MAYOR ALLAN MANSOOR FUNDRAISER

IF Mayor Allan Mansoor is to continue his courageous

effort to successfully enforce immigration law in his

city (which will be duplicated in other cities), he

MUST be re-elected and needs our support NOW! Below

are details of a fundraiser sponsored by the Gilchrist

Angels:

WHAT: Potluck and BBQ

WHEN: Sunday, July 30, 2006

TIME: 5:00 PM

COST: $25 + potluck dish

WHERE: Fairview Park, 2501 Placentia Avenue, Costa

Mesa, CA

EVENTS: Auction, Games, "Cowboy" Theme

RSVP: Make check to Friends of Mayor Mansoor - note

"for BBQ". Mail to 2973 Harbor Blvd. #346, Costa Mesa,

CA 92626.

DETAILS: gilchristangels@aol.com

number

by number Thursday, Jul. 27, 2006 at 2:40 AM

HAVE QUESTIONS about the event? Call (714) 750-2313

KKK? Is It Realy So?

by Sandra Thursday, Jul. 27, 2006 at 5:12 AM
slsweet@cox.net

So if we crash this kkk bbq, how many people can we get...?

Liberals lieS don't work

by Carmen Thursday, Jul. 27, 2006 at 3:26 PM

Calling American citizens KKK and Nazis only helps our cause.

Americans know you are all a bunch of liars.

Lupe Moreno will be at the BBQ

She is so KKK HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

LIARS

Outrageous

by Fredric L. Rice Thursday, Jul. 27, 2006 at 3:32 PM
frice@skeptictank.org

White supremacists feel free to expose themselves openly these days.

"If you think that the United States could never elect an Adolf Hitler to power, note that David Duke would have become the govonor of Louisiana if it had just been up to the white voters in that state."

-- Professor Bob Altemeyer

Lupe Moreno is on the menu?

by Quackers Thursday, Jul. 27, 2006 at 3:46 PM

> Lupe Moreno will be at the BBQ

I gather she's got enough meat on her bones to feed about one hundred hungry white people. Will you be serving portions of her with potatos or baked beans?

KKK comes in many colors

by "liberal" is used as a label by the Thursday, Jul. 27, 2006 at 3:52 PM

One doesn't have to be "white" or of Anglo-Saxon heritage to be as racist and xenophobic as the KKK.

This is the new millenium where the eradication of the civil rights movement and the co-optation of identity politics by the fascistic neo-conservative proto-nazis has brainwashed people of all persuasions into identifying with and defending white privilege and white supremacy. Lupe Moreno is a victim of internalized oppression whose been beat down so much in her life that she's found it convenient for her sanity to hate her own people. Ward Connerly, Clarence Thomas, Condoleeza Rice, Ted Hayes, and Larry Elder all suffer from this malady in relation to the African American community. Latinos like Moreno, Alberto Gonzales, and that big hypocrite Linda Chavez (who disappeared once it was discovered that she talks out of both side of her head like most republicans) can be just as racist and class prejudiced in their conscious and unconscious support of white privilege and white supremacy. This phenomenon also reflects the contemporary melting pot of America just like the teutonic appearance of the nazis reflected Germany and the WASPy character of the KKK reflected the legacy of the south. So although all of these misguided people don't have fair skjin and don't go around wearing their bedsheets, their minds and public actions, like protesting outside of businesses (which is what the nazis did to jewish businesses in Germany), burning Mexican flags (like the KKK burning crosses), and using vigilantism to persecute individuals (like the nazis did to the Jews and the KKK did to African Americans in the south) is worthy of comparison. Immigrant haters complain about their tax dollars going to public services for the undocumented while they remain ignorant of how much of their money goes to fight the wars of oil barons in the middle east or support xenophobic politicians at home. What a bunch of saps.

I'll show my support

by It's about time Thursday, Jul. 27, 2006 at 4:02 PM

My wife and I will be going to this if I can get tickets. Will there be tickets sold at the park? I don't see any way to purchase tickets.

The new theofascism

by Fredric L. Rice Thursday, Jul. 27, 2006 at 4:08 PM
frice@skeptictank.org

> This is the new millenium where the eradication

> of the civil rights movement and the co-optation

> of identity politics by the fascistic neo-conservative

> proto-nazis has brainwashed people of all

> persuasions into identifying with and defending

> white privilege and white supremacy.

Check out John W. Dean's book, "Conservatives Without Conscience" which covers the rise of authoritarianism in the United States as a general rule rather than as an artifact of the theofascist Bush regime's crimes against humanity and treason against America.

The Center for First Amendment Studies back before the 1988 Presidential Elections used to publish a newsletter which enumerated the Christofascist totalitarianism that we're seeing being inflicted against American citizens and innocent countries around the world. With the attempted installment of Pat Robertson as President, the Christofascist terrorists among us evidenced their agenda against us probably as well as it could be said.

These exhibitions of white supremacisy that we're seeing across the United States in the past 6 years is an artifact of Christian Republican fascism yet it has its roots going back about 40 years now.

My opinions only and only my opinions.

reply

by Jammer CC Thursday, Jul. 27, 2006 at 6:29 PM

If there's any counter demonstration planned, I would imagine it would be the same people who do that at the city council meetings in Costa Mesa.

Speaking of KKK and stuff, ALIPAC posted an open letter to National Vaguard asking them to stay away and stop making them look bad with their participation. It's posted in the SOS forums. My reaction would be hey, that's great, but what in the bloody hell took so long???.....

Don't forget to watch "30 Days" on FX tonight to see Frank Jorge get humbled by an undocumented immigrant family ;-)

"Stay away" order

by oBI Thursday, Jul. 27, 2006 at 9:20 PM

Hey jammer:

SOS is going to issue an order that you stay away from them.

reply

by Jammer CC Thursday, Jul. 27, 2006 at 9:22 PM

If that's true, how much authority is that gunna have? If they're in public and don't have a permit, I'm gonna mingle with them and chat with them all I want. :-)

Stay Away Order issued for Jammer CC

by Emperor of the Universe Thursday, Jul. 27, 2006 at 9:37 PM

FROM THE OFFICES OF THE EMPEROR OF THE UNIVERSE

Wednesday, July 26, 2006

By the powers invested in me as Emperor of the Universe, I hereby declare Cliff May banned forever from mingling with any member of my group, Save Our Fascist State, anywhere on the North American continent.

Should he willfully violate this order, the Great Gods of the Vikings will send thousands of thunderbolts raining down upon him to fry him to a crisp and permantly stop him from wreaking havoc over the minds of my peons.

Signed,

JOEY "WIMP" TURNER

Emperor of the Universe

Founder of Save Our Fascist State

Parallels in Self-Hate

by novice peace person Thursday, Jul. 27, 2006 at 10:57 PM

(I was just thinking about vegans, and about left and right wing violence and love...)

I read Lupe Moreno's story on her site (or maybe it was the OC Register), and it's a pretty sad story, full of abuse from her family, and a screwed up, exploitative situation. Her family were coyotes, human smugglers, and so she saw the worst of the immigration problems. Situations like that always have some kind of negative fallout. There's repressed anger. I think hate groups can be an outlet for this anger.

I think some people in the radical scene can relate to screwed up, or abusive families. The stories I've heard are pretty wild, with lots of families on drugs, abuse, child molestation, rape, gangs, parental neglect, abandonment, bullying, and other abusive behavior from family or peers. As with the people in hate groups, there's a lot of anger built up. The outlet can be extremely angry politics, angry music, and angry behavior.

There's also a lot of "positive" action on both sides, too, but they seem to differ in what they're positive about.

reply

by Jammer CC Thursday, Jul. 27, 2006 at 11:46 PM

I'm also aware of Lupe's story. I don't remember every part of it, but I've heard much of it before.

Stories like this may be one of the reasons why some of the Minuteman/SOS participants still go on and on with what they're doing. I don't have a story like this so I didn't last long with this kind of thing. For a while I got into it thinking being a "Minuteman" is a way to be a hero or something, but at the same time I knew it wouldn't last. It's like a dating relationship that you know won't last, yet you still go on a few more dates anyways before breaking up. I was going to quit it all after the Congressional election in district 48 last year. I was going to finish out my tasks in the Gilchrist campaign for the sake of committment, then be done and no longer take a side. But then the imfamous Stormfront incident happened, we know how that turned out. Not only was my committment excused off when I was kicked out, but there's the fact that at least two Stormfront members were involved, and a total of four were invited into the offices.

Anyways, as for hate groups, I posted a list of hate group symptoms on another topic here that ended up hidden. But you can look up "hate group" on wikipedia for that list called "Psychopathology of hate groups." After reading that list, I was startled to realize that a lot of these are just about parallel to what I've seen in the SOS, Minuteman, and CCIR events.

reply

by Jammer CC Thursday, Jul. 27, 2006 at 11:56 PM

Speaking of disparaging a target, check this out:

http://www.saveourstate.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=14584

That's pretty funny. Especially when Czernel from SOS mispelled "Heroes" as "Heros" on a protest sign he provides the image for on his website, a word that's harding to mispell than "Independent," the word I mispelled.

Anyways, maybe I'll have to make another photo of myself like the chair and protest sign one. I like "Publik Skool Viktum" so maybe I'll hold a sign that says that with an arrow pointing towards me. I'll even bring it their next Laguna Beach protest.

question for Jammer

by question Friday, Jul. 28, 2006 at 12:04 AM

Hey Jammer CC.. what time and channel is the Minuteman show on?

reply

by Jammer CC Friday, Jul. 28, 2006 at 12:07 AM

10pm on the FX channel. It's not the regular Fox channel, it's a separate channel called "FX" usually for entertainment, also owned by Fox Productions.

In this area with Cox Communications, it's channel 17. It will be different in other areas.

David Duke mentality

by Fredric L. Rice Friday, Jul. 28, 2006 at 12:03 PM
frice@skeptictank.org

> SOS is going to issue an order that you

> stay away from them.

White supremacists may demand that brown people "stay away" or "return" to Africa or Mexico all they want. Until David Duke is elected to the Presidency, however, and the new Nazi Holocaust resumes, it's unlikely that their pathetic demands will ever be met.

Try another Final Solution. That one don't work.

My opinions only and only my opinions.

Here's a memorable pic for the "frat boy" himself

by Anti-fascist Friday, Jul. 28, 2006 at 2:19 PM

Here's a memorable p...
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Since Joe Turner seems to be keeping a close eye on all the messages being posted here, I thought I'd go right ahead and post a picture of him hanging out with flag-waving neo-Nazis in Laguna Beach last year.

He's the guy in the light blue shirt and grey pants on the far left in this photo.

Poll shows how weak SOS is

by LOL Friday, Jul. 28, 2006 at 2:24 PM

As of today, only 11 people participated in Joe Turner's poll on Cliff May.

Wow. I'm really impressed. What a powerful organization Turner is running. here.

"But we didn't invite them!"

by Fredric L. Rice Friday, Jul. 28, 2006 at 3:37 PM
frice@skeptictank.org

I wonder if there will ever come a day when SOSMM's followers will eventually admit that their ideological core consists of over and closet white supremacists, Neo-Nazis, and other unAmerican undesireables. I mean the photograph evidence appears to me to be overwhelming in regards to what these people stand for -- and it's not "just illegal immigration."

If I ever found myself participating in a gathering where the majority of my fellow ideologues had their ideals predicated in hatred, I'd walk away and find a legitimate group to pal around with.

My opinions only and only my opinions.

I agree...

by KR Friday, Jul. 28, 2006 at 4:48 PM

"If I ever found myself participating in a gathering where the majority of my fellow ideologues had their ideals predicated in hatred, I'd walk away and find a legitimate group to pal around with."

Like the illegals and their sympathizers during the marches...

Mansoor is a Nazi

by BaBaBooey! Friday, Jul. 28, 2006 at 5:14 PM

that is why he is loved by his bretheren at the MMP

Deport...

by minuteman Friday, Jul. 28, 2006 at 6:36 PM

Deport......
santa_20clara_2002_1_.jpgsqmenk.jpg, image/jpeg, 480x360

sign holder

by V Friday, Jul. 28, 2006 at 6:45 PM

uncle sam holding the sign look like a smuck. He look like he want to take a dump but he can't.

NYC Borricuas attacks Gilchrist, force him to flee!!!

by BaBaBooey! Friday, Jul. 28, 2006 at 7:11 PM

Oye Borricua!!! Dale, dale, dale, Dale a su madre!!!

http://www.longislandpress.com/?cp=162&...e&a_id=9221



click this!

by BaBaBooey! Friday, Jul. 28, 2006 at 7:14 PM

to read about Gilchrist running away like a kindergarden baby!!!

http://www.longislandpress.com/index.php?cp=162&show=article&a_id=9221

Deport... is from

by minuteman Saturday, Jul. 29, 2006 at 3:20 AM

http://www.illegalimmigrantprotest.com/california.htm

The mind of a Christofascist Republican

by Fredric L. Rice Saturday, Jul. 29, 2006 at 1:23 PM
frice@skeptictank.org

> Like the illegals and their sympathizers

> during the marches...

John Dean was a Nixon official for 1000 days, working with Barry Goldwater and other arch conservatives. In Dean's book "Conservatives Without Conscience," he described the mindset of the SOSMM / neo-Nazi / Aryan Nations / Stormfront / Aryan Brotherhood / et al. ideologies well.

Extensive scientific research into the phenomena exhibited by this rightard extremist was writted up in a research results paper titled, "Political Conservativsm as Motivated Cognition." Scientifically described, Theofascist Republicanism is determined and predicated upon hatred and bigotry, advocacy of inequality, denial of basic human and civil rights.

What we find is that everything conservative ideology is is in diametric opposition to everything the United States was founded upon. The Declartation of Independance, the Bill of Rights, the U. S. Constitution -- all predicated upon moderate and liberal ideals.

Hatred against brown people is illogical and unamerican.

That's freakishly bizarre

by Fredric L. Rice Saturday, Jul. 29, 2006 at 1:26 PM
frice@skeptictank.org

> uncle sam holding the sign look like a smuck.

Bizarre. Freakish. The guy probably feels zero embarrassment or shame, just like his fellow ideolog who was exhibiting simulated homosexual anal sex while holding a sign he made that read "Brokebutt."

It's undeniably true: The white supremacists stand on street corners and on sidewalks unashamed because they have one of their own in the White House and the U. S. has become a mirror copy of Nazi Germany circa 1932.

My opinions only and only my opinions.

Onward Christian Sodlier!

by Fredric L. Rice Saturday, Jul. 29, 2006 at 1:39 PM
frice@skeptictank.org

> to read about Gilchrist running away

> like a kindergarden baby!!!

With the Christian gods on his side, it's curious that he would be so badly out numbered and so easily defeated.

It's horrific to see white supremacists utilizing the backdrop of the Saudi Arabian terrorist attacks against the United States to peddle their hatred and bigotry, though.

My opinions only and only my opinions.

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