fix articles 16308, bush
Bush's 4th of July Visit to Oklahoma (tags)
Former President Bush is coming to Woodward, Oklahoma to celebrate July 4th. This Oklahoma farmer, rancher and father who lost his son in Iraq has something to say about his visit.
Bush is (tags)
And so is Cheney
Bush Resurrects a Whopper (tags)
Where have we heard this before? War in the Ruins of Diplomacy Published: March 18, 2003 America is on its way to war. President Bush has told Saddam Hussein to depart or face attack. For Mr. Hussein, getting rid of weapons of mass destruction is no longer an option. Diplomacy has been dismissed. Arms inspectors, journalists and other civilians have been advised to leave Iraq. http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C01EFDA1431F93BA25750C0A9659C8B63 Oh yeah. The last time these War Criminals engineered a phony crisis about a fake threat, and used it to start another illegal war.
Bush in San Diego today Not Malibu (tags)
Bush in San Diego today Not Malibu
The Coming Attack on Iran (tags)
"Bush has declared himself to be the "decider." The "decider" decides whether Americans have any rights under the Constitution and whether Iran has any rights under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. As the "decider" has decided that Iran has no such rights, the "decider" decides whether to attack Iran. No one else has any say about it. The people’s representatives are just so much chaff in the wind. "
The War Criminal in the Living Room (tags)
The media is silent. Congress is absent. Americans are distracted as George W Bush prepares aggression against Iran.
New strongman for Iraq (tags)
Bush to assassinate Al-Maliki
Bush pardons Rove (tags)
In a pre-emptive strike
Bush expects everything to be solved with a bang. (tags)
Bush is an apocalyptic person. I observe his eyes, his face and his obsessive preoccupation with pretending that everything he sees on the "invisible screens" are spontaneous thoughts...
Bush's Epic Collapse (tags)
The leader incapable of leading has three characteristics that define his administration: arrogance, incompetence and cynicism.. According to attorney John Yoo, Bush can wage any war at any time against anyone without being bound to any laws.
Veto of Peace (tags)
Bush's idea of compromise is "that the democrats do what he tells them." The budget law passed by the democratic majority in congress was tied tot he condition of a fixed plan for withdrawal from iraq.
From Iraq War to Middle East War (tags)
Bush ignores everything that experts, the opposition majority and the US public want.. Bush's course recalls Nixon's 1970 invasion of Cambodia, expanding the battle while swearing withdrawal.
Bush bounced (tags)
By Nouri al-Maliki
Bush 2008 budget to brutalize humanity (tags)
Bush budget proposes to brutalize America!
Bush's Megalomania (tags)
What some called good flowed into chaos.. You wil know them by their fruits. Not even the Pentagon doubts that the fruits of Americans in Baghdad stink.
Listen, Pete... (tags)
Bush to give Medicare money to Druglords and Warlords
Bush wants $800 of your money to help him kill (tags)
Bush wants you to pay $800 over then year and a half to help him kill Iraqi women, children, and freedom fighters. Think your getting your moneys worth?
Bush shoots Lincoln (tags)
and will destroy the Republiban Party forever
Bush's Key Talking Point for State of the Union Address (tags)
Bush cracks up (tags)
he wants his mammy
Bush, Somalia and the Future (tags)
Bush’s impending demise is marked by frantic and desperate attempts to portray the illegal Iraq invasion and subsequent plunder of the precious oil resource, as a war of “noble” intent! Wars based on deception, lies and plunder, with over half a million civilian casualties, would be difficult to record as anything other than what they are – theft, murder and neo-colonial expansionism at any cost. Unfortunately for Bush and his neo-cons, the Truth regarding Iraq is widely known and it is that knowledge which will enter the historical record, not the drivel that issues from the mouths of imbeciles and psychopaths!
Bush phone transcript (tags)
New Year conversation with Blair
Bush flees to India (tags)
Bush "I did not have sexual relations with that man" (tags)
Bush says he never had a blow-job from Ted.
George Bush at the ANSWER Coalition Demo in Hollywood (tags)
Bush speaks at the Answer Coalition rally
Bush drops 'stay course' Iraq slogan (tags)
Looks like Bush has finally figured out that the American public know he is losing the war in Iraq!
2nd loc - Bush visit protest Sunset & Hilgard 4:45 pm (tags)
Second location to protest the Bush visit Sunset & Hilgard 4:45 pm today
Emperor Bush to visit Phoenix (tags)
Emperor Bush gets the usual special treatment when he visits Phoenix today. Scottsdale Airport will be closed for 14 hours so a suicide bomber in a plane can’t kill Emperor Bush during his stay. Sky Harbor Airport will be closed when Emperor Bush lands only inconveniencing a few thousand people for a few hours, but the Emperor must be protected. The Squaw Peak freeway and Lincoln Drive will probably be closed to keep peons and potential killers away from the Emperors motorcade. But its part of the job of protecting the Emperor. You can’t just let normal people near the Emperor.
Bush in LA this Tuesday (tags)
BUSH in Los Angeles, CA: October 3, 2006: President Bush attends a Republican National Committee Reception in Los Angeles, CA. Source: http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/14425
Travis Morales Responds to Bush's Speech on Immigration (tags)
Bush is treating the southern border area as a war zone where the military must be used against starving people who are crossing the border to survive! No, no, no!
Bush should now know,he doesn't need any lynch-pin stratagem to attack Iran! (tags)
...Bush now knows a majority of Americans will simply and passively acqueise,and go along with him!
Bush in Irvine Monday April 24th 8am -- PROTEST! (tags)
You must show up at The Irvine Hyatt Monday to protest Bush. He will be speaking about immigration. Go to www.ocregister.com for details. NOW IS YOUR CHANCE TO BE HEARD BY THE PRESIDENT.
Bush to speak in O.C. on Monday (tags)
The Orange County Register
Bush's bitch (tags)
Bush id getting fed up with his Brit bitch.
Bush Accuses Majority of Americans of Treason (tags)
Bush accuses his opponents of treason. What's next, locking up the Congress?
Bush surrenders (tags)
Bush and Cheney are cowards.
Bush says. (tags)
Bush and the 12 virgins.
A Letter to America (tags)
A Letter to America America, your un-elected demon leader is using your name to attempt falsely imprisoning me here in Canada through the tyranny of his blatant fascistic “top secret” behavior.
Bush calls domestic problems "background noise" (tags)
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush, hit by a series of domestic woes that have eroded his popularity, said on Thursday he was focused on his job and not on what he called "some background noise."
Bush Administration in a Budget Dilemma (tags)
The continuation of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan will lead to a doubling of the budget deficit in the next ten years..In 2006 the reduction or elimination of 150 federal programs is lined up.
Bush's Cheap Mercenaries (tags)
President Bush's unilateral, preemptive war against Iraq is the worst foreign policy decision in the history of our country. Even GW Bush's father said in his book "A World Transformed" the following: "I firmly believed that we should not march into Baghdad. ... To occupy Iraq would instantly shatter our coalition, turning the whole Arab world against us."
Bush is Behind False Warnings of Al-Qaeda Strike in Los Angeles (tags)
Bush is faking al-Qaeda warnings...
Bush thinks deeply, about himself. (tags)
Bush takes a moment to pose.
Bush as God's Warrior (tags)
"The religious fundamentalist gave the American superpower's mission character to the megalomaniac worldview. its soldiers bring freedom everywhere as the gift of the almighty God, not as America's gift.."
Bush Fires (tags)
Play with fire and you'll get burned.
Bush as Absolute Monarch of Guantanamo (tags)
The camp in Guantanamo has become a "propaganda- and recruitment tool for terrorists," Biden said and proposed a gradual closure of the camp in Cuba.
Bush's Numbers Racket (Dean Baker) (tags)
Bush's plan would undermine a system that has provided security for tens of millions of workers and their families for seven decades and which can continue to do long into the future if it is just left alone. His private accounts would provide far less security..
Bush's democratic rhetoric sets the middle east on fire (tags)
Battling the windmills while Iraq burns By RAMZY BAROUD Special to The Japan Times DOHA, Qatar -- Cast aside the nonsensical rhetoric about U.S. President George W. Bush's ostensibly successful efforts to bolster democratic tendencies "sweeping" the Middle East, and you'll discover that the facts are not so rosy, with Iraq remaining the most horrific reminder. Bush seems to reside over an entirely different world reality when he adamantly presents himself as a visionary whose uppermost concerns are freedom and democracy worldwide, with due emphasis on the Middle East.
Sons of Satan. (tags)
Question. Who was the only individual ever to have the death sentence commuted by Governor Bush? -He mass murdered over 100 people with his other friend. In these murders, Lucas and his friend (and sometimes forcing children they bring along to participate and watch) group-murdered, flayed, hacked, cut, disemboweled, and decapitated over 100 people. Sometimes this involved necrophilia and cannabalism.-
Bush is a Fraud (tags)
Bush tries to make cheap political capital out of the Shiavo tragedy, but fails to act.
Bush Sketches 'Wing-Clipping' Scenario for Syria's Exit from Lebanon (tags)
President Bush has sketched a wing-clipping scenario for Syria's exit from Lebanon, asserting that its intelligence organizations should no longer be allowed to influence government functions in Beirut and insisting the withdrawal should be completed before the spring elections for a new Lebanese parliament.
The Crown's Crown (tags)
Damn. I am so desperately in need your help. You see my friend, there are people in this world that deprive our rights to freedom, through unjust acts committed in your name, done by hiding their true intent from our public’s view. One RCMP Cnst, was able to argue to a judge that my writing was anti-government, and she needed to establish who I was, to enforce the law of, "threatening an international person".
Decoding Da Dubya Code (tags)
Revolutionaries, reporters and film crews assembled on Friday morning for a "Press Conference and Anti-Inaugural Banquet." It was held near Howard University at Café Manowaj, a cool and funky hang-out run by a crew of radical South Africans. Steaming breakfast dishes (named for people’s heroes and historical highpoints) soon appeared. Indymedia and RW reporters tended to order Amandla eggs. The Fox-5 TV guy was all over the Paris Commune French Toast. (His footage of our red-flag-filled cowboy-hat stomping made the 5 o’clock news that night.)
Sunsara Taylor: Are there any born-agains in the house who are deep into biblical armageddon prophesies? No? In that case, I first need to first walk you all through my ‘Armageddon Crash Course for post-Enlightenment Thinkers’....
At this very moment millions of people are being seduced into going for simple, good-versus-evil answers to the agonizing and growing complexities of the world. They are consumed with the coming Judgment Day, the return of Jesus, Armageddon, the Rapture.
MIAMI HERALD RECOUNT SHOWS KERRY LIKELY WON FLORIDA (tags)
This is a post from DemocraticUnderground.com dated 11/30/04.
The Politics of Irrationality in its Second Term (tags)
Bush is not the problem but the symptom of a democracy that is gravely endangered.. Neoconservative men and women believe that the end justifies the means and the choice of political means does not ultimately concern the citizen at all.
Bush Shows True Colors (tags)
Bush caught flipping us all off. We have a frat boy for pres.
Bush and the Cowboy Soul (tags)
"There is a very narrow concept of strength in this country, says David Paletz. Strength is something between Ronald Reagan and Arnold Schwartznegger and has a clear connection to militarism, killing animals and chopping down trees with the axe.."
Lessons on democdracy from Bush? (tags)
Those with a sensitive gag reflex should probably avoid reading about George Bush’s criticism of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s proposals to cut back on democracy in his country in the name of fighting terrorism.
Bush’s Acceptance Speech: True Lies and Terror , Terror, Terror (tags)
Bush offered up no surprises in his acceptance speech at the RNC, continued to pretend the invasion of Iraq was part of a War on Terror, and promised us more right-wing judges, more international military adventures, and a new attack on the foundation of Social Security.
Bush Blocks Medical Students (tags)
Bush Blocks Underprivileged Medical Students from Attending School in Cuba (online edition) By Don Sloan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ It has now been just over four years since he first group of US students were sent off to Cuba as a part of a training program that was offered by Cuba's Ministry of Health (MINSAP). This was their addition to a school only for foreign nationals that was born out of the turmoil of Hurricanes George and Mitch in 1999 that devastated much of Latin America.
Welcome to the Machine (tags)
The only trouble is the lawless evil bushite child rapists, and repuglicon pension thieving war mongers, have no respect for American law, American lives, nor the God of any religion.
Bush Lied, People Died... (tags)
Bush lied. People died. Get used to the truth rather than trying desperately to cling to some fleeting notion of a justified invasion of Iraq.
Bush Lied, People Died... (tags)
Bush lied. People died. Get used to the truth rather than trying desperately to cling to some fleeting notion of a justified invasion of Iraq.
Kill Kimmitt for this. (tags)
Kill Kimmitt for this. Kimmitt pushes American GIs to die as thieving terrorists, who instead of arresting bad guys, bomb homes of innocent families, while refusing to go after those nazi bush bitches in the Berg film who are whitey overweight slobs with towels on their heads.
"Can a simple mind like Bush distinguish between terrorism and other religions?.. How much tolerance can anyone completely convinced of the uniqueness of his God show other gods and their followers?.."
BUSH FOUND GUILTY OF FETUS MURDER (tags)
CNN showed Bush signing a fetus murder bill to use against Terry Nichols. Hopefully this will lead to the arrest of Bush. Terry Nichols can testify that the GOP financed the OK city bombing of the Murray Federal biulding.
Dunce vs Preppy (tags)
dumbass, smartass, or none of the above.
Nader polling at 6% according to Associated Press (tags)
Republican Virgil Ahlberg of Apison, Tenn., said he is seriously considering a vote for Nader. "Bush has come across as a little more aggressive and warlike than I like," he said. "I like Ralph Nader being in the race. I like his practicality and taking people to task for things they promise to do, things that aren't being addressed."
Bush to be in LA this Wednesday March 3, 2004 (tags)
Bush to be in LA this Wednesday March 3, 2004
God or no God, I don't like that demon antiChrist, Our Mr. bush Jr. very much (tags)
By Annan not publicly addressing this very serious issue, will not be fooling me he hasn't heard it mentioned. The families of Iraq are accounted almost entirely by "comprehensive, extremely detailed" measurements. So what the hell is going on about supporting our world community by not condemning war crimes?, Just where is Annan on the issue of an international commitment kept I want asked religiously across this world. Now.
Bush, The Wars of the Texas Succession (tags)
review and analysis provided by two recent books.
A Republican's Case Against George W. Bush (tags)
"Bush is overwhelmed by the influence of religious zealots--both Zionist and fundamentalist Christian. He ignores America's own heavy guilt for the plight of Palestinians. He fails to recognize that more than a billion Muslims worldwide, along with many millions of non-Muslims, are deeply aggrieved at this complicity. " Paul Findley, former Republican Congressman speaks out about Palestine
Bush, Blair Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize (tags)
Americans respond to State of the Union: What about jobs? (tags)
George W. Bush delivered the 2004 State of the Union speech to Congress and the American people on Jan. 20, and afterwards many people asked: What Union and world was he talking about?
Bush booed by Atlanta protesters (tags)
Several hundred protesters loudly booed Bush on Thursday as he laid a wreath at the grave of civil rights leader Martin Luther King.
Bush to announce manned Mars mission (tags)
BBC carries a story claiming that Bush is to announce next week a manned mission to Mars. The cost is expected to be around a trillion dollars. He will also announce plans for a permanent lunar base.
Bush Surprise Iraq trip is a fake (tags)
Pleading with Americans to arrest bush for the love of children (tags)
The dumfuk bushite parasites have been PURPOSEFULLY blowing themselves up with mined cluster bombs as suicide bombers! Not dying for any noble cause, but to only further toll more American Patriot lives.
Americans are forbidden to know... (tags)
Here's what a bushite's granmom's tax payment is going towards, minus the 1.5 billion per month of 4 that is secretly STOLEN by the bushmob as something Americans are forbidden to know of through their corporate news censorship stealing their very own demeaned values, dying.
The best evidence to kill bush quickly (tags)
The evil is in plain sight, the danger only increases with denial
What We Really Need To Do! (tags)
Bush has committed HIGH TREASON and other crimes! We know what must be done.
Photos: Bush Protest in Riverside, Oct. 15th (tags)
Bush Protest in Riverside, Oct. 15th
Bush "Feels Good" (tags)
Bush "Feels Good" after sucking French & German cock at the UN.
Bush Wants Corpses from Many Countries (tags)
"According to a congressional report leaked out several days ago, the US will be strained both financially and militarily in a few months in Iraq. No wonder they are looking for other sponsors and more soldiers. The UN must not serve as Washington's war chest."
One Giant Leap (tags)
A bushite soldier, to be proud of committing senseless murder for the American cop killer, the Iraqi bank robber, the demon bush Jr., along with WorldCom, Dutch-Shell, and Halliburton, is not only a cowardly traitor to victimized American families, but to all People our World over.
Oregon rains of Bush (tags)
He lost Afghansitan. He is losing Iraq. Even in America Bush can't get the people on his side.
Bush has put the White House Up for Sale! (tags)
So far, donors have given Bush: $ 49,225,000
Bush in Los Angeles this week (tags)
Bush to visit California some time this week, will anyone turn out in protest?
Locals chant slogans in support for Saddam Hussein at the site of Tuesday's shootout that left four Iraqis dead including Saddam's sons Odai and Qusai Wednesday, July 23, 2003, in the town of Mosul, 280 miles, 450 kilometers north of Baghdad, Iraq. Two American soldiers were killed in ambushes in Iraq on Wednesday, denting any U.S. hopes that the deaths of Saddam's sons would snuff out a guerrilla insurgency against occupying forces.(AP Photo/Wally Santana) .... And now, the resident of the United States.
God Honest (tags)
When bush told Americans, americans didn't need any proof against Laden, bush really said, cowardly Americans no longer wish to protect Freedom by following the crime scene leads offered by the Justice departments. No Justice for Laden means, no documented arrest of actual criminal perpetrators. (Laden completely by himself was he?) Which incidentally, America's bush and rumsfeld had completely planned SECRETLY to NOT arrest for 9/11 before hand, with the official antichrist's, "invade Afghanistan without any evidence plan".
Bush Deserves To Be Impeached (tags)
Thanks to Bush's blundering, nearly 50% of U.S. Army combat units are now stuck in a spreading guerrilla war in Iraq , costing $4 billion US monthly, that is becoming the biggest, most expensive, and bloodiest foreign mess since Vietnam. This when the U.S. is threatening military action against North Korea.
Bush Lied, Many Thousands Died (tags)
BUSH LIED AND PEOPLE DIED. BUSH LIED AND RAINED DEATH AND DESTRUCTION ON INNOCENTS.
wHAT IS THIS THEN? (tags)
We all KNOW factually, and freely confess without truthful contention, the UNJUST evil bush and blair, "sexed up" the falsehoods of a plagiarized essay, then bold faced lied as they continue today, to hide their "embarrassment" of indiscriminately murdering our Humanity for criminal thefts against a just rule of our god given rights Man.
Bush: Pathological Liar~~Graphic (tags)
Bush, the most famous pathological liar
Through A Glass Darkly An Interpretation of Bush's Character (tags)
Bush never goes anywhere where his stage crew has not first assembled giant flags as background. He always wears a sizeable American-flag pin on his lapel. This kind of totemic, obsessive use of flags was absolutely characteristic of Hitler.
Belfast: Bush not welcome in Free Derry (tags)
Bush, Blair and Bertie (Ahern) met for a summit in Belfast, Northern Ireland. This ironic location is the center of the Occupied Six Counties, a gerrymandered statelet created to propagate the racist superiority of Loyalists/Unionists over Republicans. These pictures and reports show some of the turmoil that lay beneath the sanitised media reports of the "summit".
BUSH ON COKE (tags)
Enjoy!!! Let's all laugh at the far right and their cokehead ruler.
Bush and Blair to meet on Iraq (tags)
Bush and Blair to meet to discuss how they will carve up Iraq's oil reserves for the benefit of U.S. and British Petroleum companies.
Bush Admin Proposes an End to Overtime Pay (tags)
Bush Admin Proposes an End to Overtime Pay - Take Action PLEASE
BUSH'S "WAR" RECORD (tags)
GW Bush may be sending our boys overseas to fight, but he never seemed to make it there himself.
HelpUSA in Suicide: Bush Sr. and Sons-48 Hours to Leave Planet (tags)
THE GREAT INTENTIONAL WATERS FULL OF REVENGE AND THE WORLD WILL ONLY BE HEAL WHEN CLEANSED OF DISEASE KNOWN AS THE USA. Make the fire burn beneath their feet. Allah be Praised.Bless Palestinians- A. Roy, 'GW Bush is insane!"
WAR IN 48 HOURS (tags)
Bush announces WAR in 48 HOURS
Bush's Other War: Venezuela w/ Mark Weisbrot (tags)
Bush's Other War: Venezuela w/ Mark Weisbrot, Discussion event, Monday, Feb 24, 8 pm, UCLA 6275 Bunche
The Bush Oligarchy Rules by Smear: (tags)
The Bush Administration and it's web of smear mongers has smeared anti-war activist Scott Ritter. Evil dictators rely upon the assumption that their minions will refrain from sinking to the same depth of moral depravity when striking back. They're wrong! Here we go, and all we can say is that Bush asked for it:
Bush's not so secret occult rituals (tags)
Bush belongs to The Bohemian Grove, and Skull and Bones, See the new online videos!
BUSH versus PROUDHON (tags)
BUSH versus PROUDHON The anarchic thinker of always :Proudhon
Bush Daddy Ramifications (tags)
Never-ending criminal stupidity!
BUSH IN LA (tags)
Bush will be on vacation in Los Angeles. Fundraising for Simon.
BUSH KNEW (tags)
Bush Coming to OC (tags)
Bush Visiting Orange County August 23rd
Tank and Air Force Units Activated for deployment around the U.S. (tags)
July 20, 2002WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A few days after President Bush's release of a homeland defense strategy calling for the domestic use of U.S. military forces, the U.S. activated 300-Army National Guard tank battalions as part of a homeland defense force. In a statement released Saturday, president Bush said, the Battalions are equipped with modern battle tanks, the M1A1 Abrams" and "will serve in the homeland defense role within the United States."
Bush Not Welcome in Los Angeles (tags)
Bush got his rejection in full voice by 1,000 protesters. See: http://www.jerusalem.indymedia.org/news/2002/04/23019.php
Bush It! -lyrics (tags)
Bush It! song by Darryl Cherney (tags)
Bush It! song by Darryl Cherney (tags)
Bush urges Senate to BACK OFF 9-11 probes. DEMAND a FULL Inquiry. Activist Kit (tags)
Bush urges Senate to BACK OFF 9-11 probes. DEMAND a FULL Inquiry. Activist Kit !! Was 9-11 the US Reichstag created to legitimize MASS WAR?? ACT NOW!!
Bush's choke on coke (tags)
President Bush fainted briefly
My first song (from Latuff) (tags)
It's my first time in my whole life writting a song and, for non-native speaker of English like me, I thought it would be very difficult. My good brother-in-arts Marco made the music. All of you are invited to comment about "Bush Bless America". But please, I am NOT a song writer or musician. It was just an EXPERIENCE. Click link below to download MP3 produced by Marco.
Bush’s Secretary of Education Gets An “F” (tags)
Bush’s Secretary of Education, Rod Paige, is a poster-boy for everything Bush—he’s a black (like Bush, non-native) Texan whose claim to fame is whipping the locals into shape as a Houston education administrator. But a new report from a conservative think tank shows Houston's schools failing badly under his leadership—worse the LA's schools, in fact.
Florida Recount Propaganda (tags)
The Headline says: "Florida recount survey: Bush Still Wins". The article (the last half of it) tells how thousands of ballots still didn't count; disregarded on techicalities, though it was obvious who was voted for.
Bush's Speech Announcing Attacks on Afghanistan. (tags)
Bush's speech announcing military attacks on Afghanistan.
Bush Family Terrorism-Business Ties (tags)
Bush Family Terrorism-Business Ties. Click on.
Bush Reps to Push for 'Fast Track' Trade Authority (tags)
Bush wants to kill the planet, and the non-millionaires just that much faster!!!
Bush Nominates Hardliner for Drug Tzar (tags)
Bush nominates hardliner for drug tzar.
Bush Coming To Southern California (tags)
Bush Heading to State This Month
Bush Audio: "As long as I'm the dictator" (tags)
Bush: "This might be easier if it were a dictatorship... as long as I'm the dictator..."
Bush, Gore Both Wrong on Death Penalty Deterrence (tags)
Bush and Gore both support for the death penalty, based on the claim it's a deterrent. But the evidence says they're wrong. We're not supposed to punish people if there's a reaonable doubt about their guilt. But what if there's much more than a reasonable doubt about the punishment?